Tito Ortiz and Babalu Split Up After Verbal Altercation During Strikeforce
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 6:56 PM EDT
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MMANews.com is on location at Strikeforce tonight and can report that moments ago, Tito Ortiz and Strikeforce Light Heavyweight Champion Renato "Babalu" Sobral exchanged words and had to be seperated before throwing down in the crowd.
This is the first I've seen about Tito and Babalu having to be physically split up during the show. However, it isn't unlikely that the two "worked" the altercation for the sake of marketing a future bout. The story goes on to note that while the camera was fixated on Babalu, he could be seen flipping off Tito, which led to an exchange of words and subsequently moving Babalu to a different part of the facility for the remainder of the program. Of course, Tito could be seeing more money fly out the window if Sobral is unable to get past Feijao this coming June.
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i am actually kinda confused by this trash talk when Babalu has a very tough opponent to fight first.
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
by ekc on Apr 13, 2009 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man that photo wins hard.
being that it’s directed at Tito
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Apr 13, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that headline does read pretty funny, doesn’t it?
by Amsterdaam on Apr 13, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Say what?
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me fix that for you
Tito Ortiz and Babalu Split Up After Verbal Altercation During Strikeforce
Tito Ortiz and Babalu Have to Be Separated After Verbal Altercation During Strikeforce
Little better, not much. But yeah, hed thru me at first with their manlove.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Apr 13, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it, but it doesn’t need to be revised. Maybe “are split up”. If the context of the situation somehow leads people to believe they have separated from their same sex marriage, then there’s nothing I can do for them.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that works
Yes, “are” would fix. I think people are just used to seeing “split up” in regards to romantic relationships, and maybe “broken up” in references to fights being separated.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Apr 13, 2009 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
But I mean to say they were split up; as in, Babalu was taken elsewhere in the arena. It’s like when two kids are being rambunctious and their old man goes “Hey, cut that shit out you little fuckers, or I’m going to split you two up!”.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For sure
Yes, that’s clear. I think the problem is that headlines leave out pronouns and other connectors, so it leaves room for confusion. In this case, the full sentence would be “guards split up Tito and Babalu” but to save space, “guards” gets dropped which then leaves unclear who is doing the splitting up—the participants or an unnamed third party. Hed is fine as written; I’m just a media geek and it seemed a few people had the same (funny) misread as me.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Apr 13, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very psyched about this fight if it happens. We’ll finally know who the best LHW fighter of the night is.
Keep firing Assholes!
by Ubernoober on Apr 13, 2009 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
…it isn’t unlikely that the two “worked” the altercation for the sake of marketing a future bout.
Ya think? :P
by mythbuster on Apr 13, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If it was a work then it was very poorly done being as no one heard about it and it didn’t make the broadcast.
by who me on Apr 13, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But it may make a future broadcast ...
… once they have a fight to hype.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
by thetakeover on Apr 13, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If no one heard about it...
why are we discussing it?
by mythbuster on Apr 13, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are discussing it on the internet two days after the event, as far as viewership numbers go that is no one.
by who me on Apr 13, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right
No one uses the internet.
by mythbuster on Apr 14, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hardcore MMA fans that follow the sport on internet websites is a very small portion of the MMA audience and this story isn’t even getting widely disseminated to that group. Even just considering internet MMA fans this is only a blip on the radar. Doing a worked arguement that doesn’t even get marginal internet exposure until 3 days after it happens is pretty damn weak, it would be like the WWE deciding to do a back stage worked fight but then not filming it or telling anyone about it.
by who me on Apr 14, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know this is Strikeforce, right? Were you expecting ESPN to cover it?
by mythbuster on Apr 14, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No honestly I would of expected Strikeforce to cover it at least though. I mean what is the point of staging a worked fight to promote a future match if the company that is considering doing to match doesn’t even bother to point out that it happened? If you were going to do this for the intention of drawing attention then you probably would of wanted to do this on camera during the event telecast or at least at the press conference after the event with all the media around paying attention not in a crowd where they were lucky that a random person in the audience caught it on tape. I wasn’t expecting ESPN to cover it but good grief you would expect more than shakey fan video on youtube if it was a planned publicity stunt.
Seriously why would they of faked something so lame as the two jawing at each other for 20 seconds in the crowd and Babalu being moved to another seat? Is it too much to think that one of the sport’s biggest mouths and a guy with a legendary short fuse for people not giving him respect exchanged a few heated words in the crowd at a event and it wasn’t something pre-planned? If it was pre-planned for publicities sake then it was very poorly thought out (it’s got all of 1800 views on youtube, whoopie).
by who me on Apr 14, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“Next on CNN: Two Strikeforce fighters who have discussed having a match in the future began the ‘bad blood feud’ hype train tonight. Details at 11.”
by mythbuster on Apr 14, 2009 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was there
I had really good floor seats and could see Overeem, Arlovski, and Babalu. I don’t recall this happening, unless I and MMANews have a very different definition of “exchanging words”.
by Farthammer on Apr 13, 2009 4:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In your face, Farthammer
Ok, it did happen.
by Farthammer on Apr 13, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feijao Over Forrest or Rashad Anyday
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 13, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least your ridiculousness is consistent.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s borderline trolling.
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by Richard Wade on Apr 13, 2009 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This was on a different level.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 13, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you think this was trolling, please give me a good reason why.
Training with Anderson Silva, Nogs, and Machida, young guy, having an incredible skill set, a good record, considered by many to be a future star in the LHW class, and I’m trolling? People said the same thing about Machida 2-3 years ago and look where he is now. I think it’s funny how people say it’s trolling without providing any facts why.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 13, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you said he could beat them in 2-3 years, I would have had no problem with it.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 13, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please
I just recognize talent when I see it.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 13, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then why aren’t you cognisant of Rashad and Forrest’s?
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
They fought for the UFC and that TV show, you know, the one that saved the sport
Oh, and rec’d.
by subo on Apr 14, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do, I just think Feijao will be better than both in the long run.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 14, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
P.S. That goes for most LHW’s, so this isn’t a UFC thing, if that is what you are thinking.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 14, 2009 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You read my mind.
Kid’s got talent, don’t get me wrong – in a couple of years he could be a contender. The point is that until he’s in the UFC and fighting all the other awesome 205er’s, we won’t know.
by subo on Apr 14, 2009 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jorge Gurgel or Andy Wang over Feijao Anyday
by Sokonojudo on Apr 13, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think Feijao and King Mo will both be top 5 guys within their next 3 fights
"I’m not going to stop yelling because that would mean, I lost the fight!"-Kenny Powers
by ekc on Apr 13, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't see how that's possible
As long as they’re not competing against the UFC’s crop of elite 205er’s, they’re going to have limited maneuverability.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, unfortunately he won’t be able to crack the Top 10 without going to the UFC. Regardless, WVR will have some awesome matchups for Mo by the time he’s off the shelf. I’d love to see him against a high level grappler like Xande.
by Chris Nelson on Apr 13, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If one of them (more likely Feijao given his promotion) went on an absolute tear and beat somebody like Minotoro, I could see a top-10 ranking. Other than that, I’m with you.
That’s not to say that they wouldn’t be at the top of certain lists, but those people are clinical.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 13, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not True
If Feijao beats Babalu and Lil Nog or Vitor, plus losses from the lower end of the top 10, it could happen within a year or two.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 13, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read
within their next 3 fights
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering Feijao signing with Strikeforce, I wouldn’t be shocked if he only got three fights in a year/year and a half. Especially if he gets an injury.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 14, 2009 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck it..
I like Feijao, but there’s no use being diplomatic— it’s just a stupid argument. He’s got zero chance of leapfrogging the likes of Machida, Rampage and Evans and very little chance of surpassing Forrest or the winner of Chuck/Shogun on the back of two victories over non-or-barely top 12 guys. Beyond that, the progress of similarly talented up and comers within the UFC will grant them more consideration for reaching the Top Ten. Jon Jones anyone? That doesn’t begin to consider that for the top five to drop, they’ll likely be replaced by their peers (Franklin, Jardine, Hammill, et al). Nevermind the ridiculousless of his initial point that Feijao would literally beat Forrest or Rashad “anyday”. Maybe if he internalized even just a little bit of that boundless anti-Zuffa sentiment, he’d be taken the least bit seriously around here.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It sounds like somebody needs a lolcat
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 14, 2009 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does this help?
v v v v v v v v v v v
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
It in fact does.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Apr 14, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even there, you don’t sound happy about it – like it’s a condition or something.
by subo on Apr 14, 2009 2:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It will have to suffice.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blackout, calm down.
Wait, I like this rant. Rec’d. The #1 ranked LHW will be the UFC LHW champion for the forseeable future, more than just about every other divison (except WW and MW).
by subo on Apr 14, 2009 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feel free to play the anti-zuffa card all you want, I don’t mind.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Apr 14, 2009 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not a card when it’s readily apparent.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why only 3 fights?
Strikefource is putting on 16 fights per year. All nationally televised at that. Why would anyone be shelved?
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
by aaronb on Apr 14, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lack of talent, most fighters won’t fight more than four times per year. Three sounds about right.
I poop rainbows.
by Blackout612 on Apr 14, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gracias.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Apr 13, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They call that being separated? LOL! I doubt that was a work. If it was, damn it was pretty pathetic.
Still, I want to see this fight!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Apr 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn’t suprise me if this was real. Tito has a reputation for saying things to guys that not even Dana would say and Babalu is crazy on “being respected”. I could see this being legit.
by Zack Gobie on Apr 13, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The last guy to get Babalu mad like that
got a little extra choking for free.
by Razreshat on Apr 13, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd love nothing more
Than to watch Babalu choke the living s**t out of Tito.
by Deo Wade on Apr 13, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was talking with babalu at the bellator fight at the mohegan sun friday
although i don’t speak portugeuse and his english isnt wonderful, i can safely say this….he HATES tito ortiz. please, please scott coker, make this match up!
by pmac06340 on Apr 14, 2009 9:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll be backing Babalu on this one for sure.
by EvilMonkey on Apr 15, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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