Chael Sonnen vs. Wilson Gouveia at UFC 102; Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller at UFC 100

by Eugene Schelfaut on Apr 10, 2009 10:03 AM EDT Comment 41 comments

Promoted to the front page from the FanPosts by Luke Thomas.

As the summer time cards for the UFC fill up fast, a middleweight bout has been added to UFC 102 tentatively scheduled for August 29 as American Top Team fighter, Wilson Gouveia, will face former WEC middleweight contender, Chael Sonnen.

The bout was confirmed by sources close to the fight to MMAWeekly.com on Thursday.

Gouveia enters the bout in August after a disappointing loss to Nate Marquardt at UFC 95 in February. Prior to that loss, the Brazilian had won his previous two contests at middleweight since dropping from the 205lb weight class.

Chael Sonnen returns to action at UFC 102 after a loss on the same Feb card to submission specialist, Demian Maia, in his return to the Octagon after a stay in the WEC and other organizations over the past few years.

UFC 102

August 29, 2009

Location: Portland, Ore.
Rumored Card:

Randy Couture vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira*
Chris Leben vs. Jake Rosholt*
Junior dos Santos vs. Justin McCully*
Chael Sonnen vs. Wilson Gouveia*

* - Not officially announced

UFC 100:

A battle of lightweights has been added to UFC 100 as New Jersey native, Jim Miller, looks to bounce back from his first loss in the Octagon against former "Ultimate Fighter" winner, Mac Danzig, at the Las Vegas show poised to be one of the biggest events in MMA history.

The fight was confirmed to MMAWeekly.com by sources close to the fight on Thursday.

July 11, 2009

Location: Mandalay Bay -- Las Vegas, Nevada

MAIN CARD

Champ Brock Lesnar vs. interim champ Frank Mir (heavyweight title unification)
Champ Georges St. Pierre vs. Thiago Alves (for welterweight title)
Michael Bisping vs. Dan Henderson
Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher
Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago*

PRELIMINARY CARD

Stephan Bonnar vs. Mark Coleman
Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien
C.B. Dollaway vs. Tom Lawlor
Jonathan Goulet vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty

* - Not officially announced

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Damn Danzig drops two in a row and they give him Jim Miller? They really don’t seem to care about protecting their TUF winners anymore

by EazyEismydad on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I think this is Danzig’s send off fight.

by subo on Apr 10, 2009 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup. i dont think he can beat miller. and 3 straight means bye bye danzig.

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by Anton Tabuena on Apr 10, 2009 2:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They should have given him Junie. =/

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Apr 10, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I like that they are not taking it easy on Danzig or anyone else for that matter.

I expect the TUF winners to be treated just like any other fighter. I like Danzig but he seems to need to work on his ground game A LOT if he ever wants to seriously compete in the UFC.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

danzig is too small. maybe he could try and drop down to FW at WEC if when he loses..

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by Anton Tabuena on Apr 10, 2009 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree with you.

He has some tools but cannot seem to get over the hump to that next level.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i already know i’m betting big on gouviea and miller.

by bdw on Apr 10, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

the sonnen gouveia matchup is a pretty good one..

i think its a toin coss (or a little towards wilson) but maybe sonnen could pull it off..

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by Anton Tabuena on Apr 10, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see Gouviea taking Sonnen fairly easily.

Gouviea has proven to be tough on the feet and we have all seen what happens to Sonner once the fight hits the mat.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed, Gouviea takes this one. I’m not too big on this matchup.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Apr 10, 2009 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Right,

I mean what does Sonnen have that would worry Gouviea?

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

the ability to put him on his back

and beat him up.
Gouveia isn’t exactly a wizard of the guard.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Apr 10, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully Jim will come more prepared and actually watch footage of Danzig and get back on a winning role, Sonnen vs. Gouveia should be a very interesting fight too.

by Raker on Apr 10, 2009 2:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I want to like Danzig

but he really needs to get over his own experience. He seems to think that it should somehow earn him respect and fear in his opponents.

He needs to humble up and get hungry.

by Razreshat on Apr 10, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully that last beatdown he took

will push him in that direction.

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boy, UFC 102 is shaping up to be horrible. They aren’t even really trying. Two of the prelims at UFC 100 are better than anything other than the ME at 102…

by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 10, 2009 10:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i think it's okay. add in another big fight and the main card would look okay..

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by Anton Tabuena on Apr 10, 2009 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Randy is gonna have to carry this show on his back

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Apr 10, 2009 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They said the same thing about UFC 91.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh man i sure hope we get something as completely as that hendricks versus gonzaga fight. or that one where maia wasted up the old crippled reality show guy. super bowl of mixed martial arts all the way

by nigelzackit on Apr 10, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

What?

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i was reminscing about how awesome ufc 91 was. remember when they showed that awesome prelim between the two lightweights that like, would have had trouble hacking it in the IFL? oh, wait.

by nigelzackit on Apr 10, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Higher rankings alone do not a good fight make. That card had nine of nine fights shown, and the worst on it was still a good scrap. That’s quality.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

thats right, a good fight is made by the promotion its in. when robinson-bocek type fights happen in nightclubs with 500 people in them its a crappy fight between crappy fighters in a crappy promotion. make it an undercard fight in the ufc and if its lucky enough to be part of a card with lots of mismatches and actually make broadcast its all “oh man what a war bros best show ever”.

by nigelzackit on Apr 10, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's ridiculous

The ‘goodness’ of a fight is a function of many things, but the promotion it is a part of is not one of them. That’s why Quenneville/Evans is one of the best fights of the year so far, even though it was at XMMA 7: Inferno.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Quenneville/Evans you say? I must find this…

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
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by Richard Wade on Apr 10, 2009 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here ya go.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ummmm....

wow.

by poundnground on Apr 10, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lost in translation? lol

Arguing on the internet is like being in the special olympics, even when you win you are still retarded.

by dnevil001 on Apr 10, 2009 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rec'd

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 10, 2009 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If those are all main card fights, yeah. But there is still a lot of time, so I’m gonna bite my tongue for awhile.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Apr 10, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

His back is really old too. Randy shuffles around like an old man and Nog looks half punchdrunk when you see him in person. I don’t have high hopes for this fight.

by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 10, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I have to disagree. I’ve been waiting to see these two fight one another for years and I think it’ll be a great fight.

by Blackout612 on Apr 10, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You disagree that Couture looks old and Nogueira looks punch drunk? Or just about whether that will lead to a good fight?

by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 10, 2009 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Stylistically, I think it’s a great fight. I look at the rush to bury Couture and Big Nog as a backwards way of discrediting Lesnar and Mir.

by subo on Apr 10, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It is an interesting matchup, I just think it is three years too late to be great. I was at Xtreme Couture and I swear to you: Randy moves like an old man. I think that year off was the end for him as a serious contender.

Maybe I am wrong. I hope I am. I love both guys, collected DVD sets of all their fights, was thrilled to meet them both. Maybe that is why I don’t want to see them hold on too long.

by Jonathan Snowden on Apr 10, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t Nog, like, 33?

by subo on Apr 10, 2009 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just wish the Randy vs Nog fight was 3 years ago. I don’t think the UFC has reached the over the age boxing style fights but this is close. At least its not Shamrock vs Coleman.

This is a lose, lose fight for both guys. If Nog wins he beat an old man, if he loses then he lost to an old man. If Randy get hammered then he’s over the hill. If he somehow wins this fight then Nog really is washed up and Mirs win doesn’t mean shit.

by Riney on Apr 10, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs