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UFC Fight Night 18: Condit vs. Kampmann Predictions

Ufn18_mediumBloodyElbow.com Staff Predictions for UFC Fight Night 18: Condit vs. Kampmann

Carlos Condit vs. Martin Kampmann


Luke Thomas: I will give Kampmann credit for the Thales Leites win, insofar as he demonstrated an ability to work around an opponent's superior skill set both by staying active with damage and finding a way to avoid obvious pitfalls. And while Kampmann is clearly very talented, he's mostly defeated lower tiered UFC opposition with highly exploitable flaws. Condit has foibles, too, and while he denied nerves would be a factor on MMA Nation, I don't buy it. This is his first UFC fight with a new corner after training in a new camp and is in front of the biggest audience ever to watch him fight. This will be close and with back and forth and both guys can get stronger as the fight wears on (Condit a little more so). But Condit is a trickier grappler and absorbs punishment far better. Condit edges Kampmann in a close decision.

Kid Nate: They're throwing both of these guys in at the deep end here. Condit is making his UFC debut and this is Kampmann's first high profile fight as a welterweight. They're clearly hoping that the winner will be someone they can groom for a title shot in fairly short order. Both guys are well-rounded with wrestling as the weakest part of their game. Could be a shootout here. I'm going to assume that Kampmann will have the edge in striking, but he's no powerhouse and Condit can throw some strikes. Likewise, I'll give Condit the top rating on jiu jitsu but not by much. I'm hoping for a back and forth war and I think Condit will squeek by. Condit by decision.

Michael Rome:  Loving this fight.  Kampmann is very underrated, people forget the Leites fight too quickly.  He was undersized at 185, so he's finally at the right weight.  Condit has a slightly better ground game, but I think this is going to stay standing, so I'm going to give the slight nod to Kampmann. Kampmann via TKO, round 3.

Mike Fagan: First off, big ups to Joe Silva for the fight.  Probably the best Fight Night main event since Sanchez/Parisyan.  It's interesting that they aren't giving Condit a bit more of a "introduction" fight in the UFC because Kampmann is the real deal.  He went 4-1 as a middleweight (including a vicious beating of current title challenger Thales Leites) despite being well undersized.  I'd go so far as saying he's probably the most overlooked guy in the UFC, if not MMA.  And I like him in this fight.  Kampmann by decision.

Cannon Jacques:  The general consensus is that this is a tough bout to call.  I agree.  Kampmann is an excellent striker who was a bit small for middleweight while Condit is the big fish moving from a small to a much bigger pond.  Condit is not one of the few elite fighters in the welterweight division, but he is amongst the top ten.  I don't know how Kampmann will look at welterweight, and that gives me additional cause to lean toward Condit.  The former WEC champ has pulled out many competitive fights, and I believe he will here also.  Condit via submission, round 3.


Tyson Griffin vs. Rafael dos Anjos

Luke Thomas: Griffin style of complete negation can get tiresome, but it's more than enough to defeat the very limited dos Anjos. The Brazilian obviously has excellent jiu-jitsu, but he doesn't have a special skill set Griffin hasn't seen before. And when it comes to boxing and athleticism (with speed), Griffin is too much. Griffin, TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate: Griffin has exceptional wrestling and decent boxing. Dos Anjos has good bjj. I doubt Griffin will allow the fight to get in the zone where he's at a disadvantage. I also doubt he'll score a convincing win. Griffin by decision.

Michael Rome:  I think this will be Griffin keeping it standing and winning on points.  He's looked flat for a while, hopefully the Sherk loss motivates him.  I don't think an upset is out of the question, but I'm going with Griffin via decision.

Mike Fagan: Griffin's a guy with the talent to be a top 5 lightweight.  Dos Anjos isn't there yet.  'Nuff said.  Griffin by TKO, round 3.

Cannon Jacques:  The wrestling advantage held by Griffin should be the difference.  I don't see dos Anjos getting his first UFC win against Griffin, but I also don't see him becoming the victim of another highlight reel knockout either.  Griffin will probably pick his spots and avoid his biggest threat - a submission.  Griffin by decision.


Ryan Bader vs. Carmelo Marrero

Luke Thomas: Marrero is better than he's being given credit, but this is an example of graduated matchmaking for Bader. And that tells you most everything you need to know. Marerro is good and can win, but Bader has the comparative advantage everywhere. Bader by TKO, round 1.

Kid Nate: Two wrestlers turned MMA fighters here. Marrero used to be a heavyweight but isn't that huge at Light Heavy -- this seems to be his natural weight class. I think Bader might be a little more athletic and quicker with his strikes. This one could be a fun fight if both guys are willing to shoot in and transition to multiple phases of the game rather than indulge in bad kickboxing. I'm going pick Bader but Marrero is almost the perfect test for him. Bader by TKO.

Michael Rome:  I originally thought this might be an upset, but upon further thought, I think Bader will power his way to a decision.

Mike Fagan:I agree with Cannon (even though you'll read his bit after mine) that the fight should be closer than the betting line.  Marrero, for all his faults, is still someone who has experience at this level.  Bader should prove to be too big and strong though.  Bader by decision

Cannon Jacques:  I'm inclined to believe that this fight should be closer than what the betting lines suggest, but I still like Bader, nonetheless.  He's a really good wrestler with excellent power.  I believe "Darth" Bader's power will eventually bite Marrero.  Bader by TKO, round 2.


Cole Miller vs. Junie Browning

Luke Thomas: Miller is the super technician, but he's also in love with his own jiu-jitsu a la Charles McCarthy. I don't think he takes punishment very well and while Junie is not the BJJ player Miller is, he's got enough anti-BJJ to withstand most of Miller's attacks. Provided he's in shape and can constantly pressure Miller on the feet, this is Browning's fight to lose. Browning by decision.

Kid Nate: As much as I'd like to pick Cole Miller in a rout, I think Junie has a big power advantage over Miller and enough ground skills to avoid getting submitted. Browning by TKO.

Michael Rome:  I wouldn't be surprised to see Browning win, but I think Cole is just going to overpower and outwork him everywhere.  Miller via decision

Mike Fagan: Yeah, Junie Browning looked good against Dave Kaplan.  But that's Dave Kaplan.  And while I'm a little worried that Junie might be a little smarter about this MMA thing than we thought after reading his comments about Shinya Aoki, he's still a guy that struggled against some poor opposition on the reality show.  I like Miller by submission, round 2.

Cannon Jacques:  Cole Miller is not Dave Kaplan.  While I wouldn't be surprised to see Browning take this one, I've got more confidence in Miller's skills and mental fortitude.  Browning should have a difficult time with the length of Miller, and that may be enough to derail the controversial TUF alum's gameplan.  Miller by submission, round 3.

Star-divide

Undercard Bouts:

Brock Larson vs. Jesse Sanders

Luke Thomas: Sanders is a good submission grappler, but so is Larson and Larson's the far better wrestler. Larson's also never given credit for his crippling power in his left, something that often takes opposition by surprise. Again, Sanders is talented, but this is his first UFC fight, not Larson's. And whatever Sanders is good at, Larson is better. Larson, by submission, round 2.

Kid Nate: Larson is a very powerful guy and a skilled wrestler. I always felt he was UFC caliber and think he'll do well back in the big leagues. Jesse Sanders on the other hand is a fighter who's compiled an impressive won-loss record against very questionable competition. Seems like a set up match. Larson by quick TKO.

Michael Rome:  This is the MMA equivalent of a squash match.  Larson via TKO.

Mike Fagan: Along with Condit, Larson's the other guy in the WEC that deserved to be fighting on the big show.  I don't know who Jesse Sanders is by name, so Larson by TKO, round 1.

Cannon Jacques:  Larson's record is listed at 24 wins, 2 losses.  Those two losses came at the hands of Carlos Condit and Jon Fitch; that's quite impressive.  There's nothing in Sanders' body of work to indicate that he's capable of besting the powerful Larson.  Larson via TKO, round 1.


Ricardo Almeida vs. Matt Horwich

Luke Thomas: I actually think Horwich can avoid the submission more than Almeida can put it on him. And I also expect Almeida to pull guard more than some expect given Horwich's decent enough takedown defense. But if anyone's getting submitted its Horwich. Whether that will happen, I don't know. But at worst, Almeida can stall, sweep or working a passing game to rack up points. I don't see a finish here. Almeida, split decision.

Kid Nate: Unfortunately for Horwich, grappling has been his go-to skill and Almeida is in a whole 'nother league on the ground. Almeida by submission.

Michael Rome:  Really tough fight for Horwich, his only strength is something Almeida is a lot better at.  Almeida via decision.

Mike Fagan: I expect Almeida to pull this to the floor Demian Maia style.  Just a matter of time from there.  Almeida by submission, round 2.

Cannon Jacques:  If only Horwich could keep this fight off the ground, he would have a chance.  Unfortunately for him, I don't see Almeida being denied as he will take Horwich to his world and do what he is known for.  Almeida via submission, round 1.


Jeremy Stephens vs. Gleison Tibau

Luke Thomas: Stephens's main weapon, big power, is usually enough to trouble most 155lbs'ers. But Tibau is a monster for the division and is accustomed to taking shots from large opponents and sparring partners. Tibau's also got the far superior BJJ and very good trips from the clinch. Even if Stephens hurts Tibau, he doesn't finish him. Tibau by decision.

Kid Nate: This is one I can't wait to see. Both guys are very powerful lightweights. Tibau is HUGE for this division. I think Tibau's strength and BJJ edge will be enough for him to finish the dangerous Stephens. Tibau by submission.

Michael Rome:  Tibau is big, but I like Stephens' heart.  Tibau seems to regularly put in sluggish performances, and I think Stephens will get him late.  Stephens via TKO, round 2.

Mike Fagan: I'm starting to think Tibau may have this MMA thing figured out.  That's trouble for 155 because he's HUGE.  Tibau by TKO, round 1.

Cannon Jacques:  Stephens could end this bout with vicious striking, but his ground game is suspect.  Tibau is certainly no slouch on the mat, and he should take the fight there as soon as possible.  If Tibau can put Stephens on his back, he should be able to finish.  Tibau by submission, round 2.


Jorge Rivera vs. Nissen Osterneck

Luke Thomas: This is hard to call. Both have skill sets that can exploit the other fighter's liability. So who wins? If Rivera can get off first, he takes it. Rivera, by TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate: Interesting matchup here. Rivera is a pretty limited fighter -- good striking, not much else. Osterneck is a fairly decent grappler with so-so striking. Big test to see if the once hyped prospect Osterneck can handle UFC level competition. I'll wager he can't. Rivera by KO.

Michael Rome:  Rivera via TKO.

Mike Fagan: Osterneck looked good against a green Jake Rosholt, but Rivera brings a ton of experience into this fight.  Rivera by decision.

Cannon Jacques:  Rivera's wealth of experience will likely serve him well against the less seasoned Osterneck.  Rivera must use his dangerous striking while avoiding Osterneck's grappling.  Rivera by TKO, round 2.


Rob Kimmons vs. Joe Vedepo

Luke Thomas: Poor Vedepo. He doesn't have the power to put Kimmons away and on the floor it isn't even a contest. Kimmons by submission, round 1.

Kid Nate: I'm not convinced that Vedopo is a UFC caliber fighter. Kimmons by TKO.

Michael Rome:  I think Kimmons' experience will be too much.  Kimmons via submission, round 3.

Mike Fagan: Kimmons by decision.

Cannon Jacques:  Kimmons has a bit of an edge in the experience department.  He's fought some decent competition though he's lost most of the contests against well-known guys.  Kimmons by submission, round 2.


Aaron Simpson vs. Tim McKenzie

Luke Thomas: As good of a wrestler as Simpson is, he's got surprising speed and power. McKenzie is the bigger fighter, but he's slower and doesn't have any of the wrestling skills Simpson possesses. Simpson, TKO, round 2.

Kid Nate: McKenzie is one of the least promising migrants from the WEC and Simpson is one of the most. Simpson combines a blue-chip wrestling resume with real KO power. McKenzie has a bad haircut, a knack for brawling and a suspect chin. Simpson by TKO.

Michael Rome:  Simpson has too much momentum and skill, he should steamroll here.  Simpson via TKO.

Mike Fagan: Simpson by TKO

Cannon Jacques:  I can't envision McKenzie placing a blemish on Simpson's perfect record.  The "A-Train" keeps rolling.  Simpson by TKO, round 1.


Nick Catone vs. Tim Credeur

Luke Thomas: Credeur lacks the wrestling to stop Catone (although Credeur's ability to pull shots off of his hips has improved), but Credeur doesn't get enough credit for being very durable as well as offering new striking threats of his own. He's not lightning fast, but he stands tall in the pocket and has underrated timing and accuracy. Then again, Catone can ride the guard position for three rounds, too. Catone by decision.

Kid Nate: Classic BJJ vs wrestling match here. Scissors-Paper-Rocks. I'll take Catone by Submission.

Mike Fagan: Catone by decision.

Cannon Jacques:  While Credeur certainly isn't at the top of the food chain at 185, he does possess a solid game anchored by excellent jiu-jitsu.  Catone's body of work is less complete though he does hold one UFC win.  I'm more comfortable with the known quantity that is the Louisiana native.  Credeur by TKO, round 2.

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I called it :)

Condit by sub.
Griffin by Decision.
Bader by TKO.
Browning by TKO.

by pud333 on Apr 1, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kampmann via decision.
Bader via TKO.
Griffin via decision.
Browning via TKO.

Larson via bullying
Horwich via TKO
Stephens via TKO
Osterneck via submission
Kimmons via submission
Simpson via TKO
Credeur via “in the future i will get knocked out” stand-up

by SamCupitt on Apr 1, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kampmann, decision
Bader, decision
Griffin, decision
Miller, sub

Larson, sub
Almeida, sub
Tibau, sub
Rivera, TKO
Kimmons, sub
Simpson, decision
Catone, decision

by Beer Monster on Apr 1, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Condit – Dec
Bader – TKO
Griffin – Dec
Miller – Dec
Larson – Sub
Almeida – Sub
Tibau – Sub
Osterneck – Dec
Kimmons – Sub
Simpson – TKO
Credeur – Dec (ALLEZ CREDEUR – he’s from my hometown – gotta pull for ’em)

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Apr 1, 2009 1:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just a minor apology. I entered my picks in the google doc where we track our picks but they disappeared for some reason and I didn’t have time to re-enter it before this had to be published.

Quickly:

Condit
Bader
Griffin
Browning
Larson
Almeida
Tibau
Osterneck
Kimmons
Simpson
Catone

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 1, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So close

Credeur is my upset pick, but otherwise we’re on the same wavelength. Only staff member to pick Osterneck and you aren’t up top.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i’m surprised so many people are picking catone and i don’t really see it as an upset pick at all

by yngjzy on Apr 1, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Neither did I, really

Just with everyone else picking Catone, makes it seem like an upset.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's for real...

he got stupid and went for broke too early against Rosholt and I hope he learned from that.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 1, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

We were discussing him in the thread regarding newcomers and that was my sentiment about the Rosholt fight too. He looked too desperate to finish and fatigued. I think he’ll be more methodical this time out.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why no Dave Kaplan love the mans never been knocked out

by Brian Bobby on Apr 1, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe...

Because Kaplan isn’t on this card?

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

referring to the browning/miller match up when in almost every comment they say cole miller is not dave kaplan. Lets no get too sensitive

by Brian Bobby on Apr 1, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Errr… Sensitive? Real good.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I may have started that, because I was one of the first to do the picks. Of course, I said Miller is not Kaplan. It’s funny when you’re scanning other folks’ picks while your doing yours, some of the stuff they say sticks in your head.

All that aside, I believe it’s a good point. I picked Browning to beat Kaplan, but (not to take anything away from Diamond Dave) Miller has a better game. Besides, Miller possesses a lot more length. I think that’s big. Browning was sort of shit on, because he acted like a degenerate on TUF. However, he’s a talented young fighter. Now, I believe some are going overboard in the other direction.

by Cannon Jacques on Apr 1, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

A lot of people can’t concede that Junie has good tools and a lot of upside based on his juvenile behavior. I have a friend that actually gets angry when I compliment Junie’s abilities.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very true. Junie was ridiculous on the show, but he’s got talent. Fortunately, I don’t have to like a guy to appreciate his skills. But I can see how it can be difficult when you’ve got a guy like Junie. :)

by pud333 on Apr 1, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude’s got Matt Hughes syndrome.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos Condit over Martin Kampmann via UD
Tyson Griffin over Rafael dos Anjos via UD
Ryan Bader over Carmelo Marrero via RD2 TKO
Junie Browning over Cole Miller via RD1 TKO
Brock Larson over Jesse Sanders via RD1 TKO
Ricardo Almeida over Matt Horwich via RD2 Sub (Armbar)
Gleison Tibau over Jeremy Stephens via RD1 Sub (Guillotine)
Nissen Osterneck over Jorge Rivera via RD2 KO
Rob Kimmons over Joe Vedepo via RD1 TKO
Aaron Simpson over Tim McKenzie via RD3 TKO
Tim Credeur over Nick Catone via UD

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll rec this...

for the wonderful use of stats.

by Cannon Jacques on Apr 1, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

green this mofo!

by Beer Monster on Apr 1, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok d00d

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh well damn...

you gotta take my picks from the comments here into account if you keep tracking these (3rd place? I’ll take it for now)

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 1, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll keep track of them from your comment picks. Stats are fun.

by Beer Monster on Apr 1, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I was barely able to even get these in. I used to be able to take a lot of time to try to get these right, but not anymore. In fact, I used to try my hand at gambling and had a decent run. But not anymore. These predictions are just guesses, folks. Wish I had time to take them more seriously.

by Luke Thomas on Apr 1, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He says...covering his ass.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 1, 2009 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone knows its true, it’s you.

by Luke Thomas on Apr 1, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my defense...

59-36 (.621)

My total for all the events I’ve picked in my 10 months on staff.

Contributor Emeritus - BloodyElbow.com

by Chris Nelson on Apr 1, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my picks

Kampmann: RD1 KO
Griffin: UD
Bader: RD2 TKO
Miller: RD2 SUB (RNC)
Larson RD1 TKO
Almeida: UD
Tibau: UD
Rivera: RD2 TKO
Kimmons: RD3 TKO
Simpson: UD
Credeur: UD

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Apr 1, 2009 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Kampmann TKO’s or KO’s Condit, it would be his first career loss by TKO or KO in 20+ fights so good luck with that one..

by Bigperm on Apr 1, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just because you havent been KO’d, dos’nt mean you can’t.

by mma is #1 on Apr 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no shit dude, but I’m saying there is no historical evidence of it happening so to pick a guy like Kampmann (Who has the power of a 10 year old girl) as the first to do it..is LOL.

by Bigperm on Apr 1, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Power of a 10 year old? Hardly.

by Beer Monster on Apr 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wooooooooah

Kampmann has excellent striking. I don’t think he’ll be the first to TKO Condit because I think Condit can take a beating, but Kampmann can bang. Power of a 10 year old girl=LOLZ.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kampmann's power is way overrated

good striker but he’s more of an accumulation guy than a one punch KO guy.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

http://CurseOfRonKarkovice.blogspot.com/

by Brent Brookhouse on Apr 1, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well-proven formula for success...

I pick everyone on the left side.

by Tonley on Apr 1, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Condit dominates the fights he should dominate and finds a way to win in the closer/more even fights, which is what I see happening here. Condit by ref stoppage gnp from the mount Rd 3.

“Anti-BJJ” is a great term and should be used from here on out.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Apr 1, 2009 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So

Is AntiBJJDenver your doppleganger?

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Apr 1, 2009 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Apr 1, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As long as I don’t put any money on who Luke picks, then I’m fine.

by Zack Gobie on Apr 1, 2009 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Keep thinking that.

by Luke Thomas on Apr 1, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Updated standings

Cannon J: 42-19
Kid Nate: 39-22
Brent B. 36-25
Mike Rome: 35-25 (didn’t pick Credeur/Catone
Fagan: 32-19
Nick: 19-16
Nelson: 9-10
Luke: 12-9

by Beer Monster on Apr 1, 2009 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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