Mixed Martial Arts Has Jumped the Shark Watch: Jonas Brothers Edition
by Luke Thomas on Mar 6, 2009 11:51 AM EST
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From MTV NewsLike any siblings, the Jonas Brothers fight. And by fight, we mean they physically abuse each other to the point that they have battle scars on their bodies to prove it.
How do we know this? Well, the guys told us all about. See, it appears that when they aren’t busy singing, acting and being teen idols, they are fighting each other. Well, at least Kevin and Joe are.
"I have a giant scar in the back of my head," Kevin told MTV News, pointing to 19-year-old Joe. "This kid’s fault Eight staples later."
Joe owned up to the beating. "I threw him into a wall once," adding that Kevin got his revenge. "Then he threw shillings off of the house at my head."
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Although Joe and Kevin seemed cool to talk about the incident, Nick jumped to the defense of his brothers’ actions. "It wasn’t out of anger. It was like, when you’re brothers, you play."
But Kevin revealed the true reason for the injury: "We were ultimate fighting!"
The first person to bury a machete in my gray matter wins a prize.
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ultimate fighting
i hate this term, i hate it when someone calls mma ultimate fighting
and i certianly wouldnt mind a sparing session with any of them
Then he threw shillings off of the house at my head
Are these guys english or from the 1700s?
"Japan is half-Machida" - iiowyn
Funny
I’m guessing he meant
shingles.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Shall I defend the person who defends the terms “ultimate fighting?”
Mixed Martial Arts is an an absolutely shitty name for a sport because it doesn’t lend itself to any verbal usage.
Playing football.
Playing baseball.
Swimming.
Kickboxing.
Golfing.
MMAing?
Mixed Martial Artsing?
Playing Mixed Martial Arts?
The respect for the term MMA has always been badly misplaced, IMO. Its a stupid name invented by some geeky fanboy elitists on the net, and held up as some sort of proof of hardcore credentials in the face of the popular usage of the term “ultimate fighting.”
Ironically, the usage of the term MMA has probably aided the UFC, by giving them an alternative to point to so that competing organizations can’t say they have ultimate fighting.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 12:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
be the person who defends the term, that is.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
Still comes off as a stupid elitist term.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Considering the sport we’re talking about here, don’t you think it’s safer to go with a “stupid elitist term” than something that appeals to the lowest common denominator? I want MMA to be mainstream as much as anyone else, but I think when you see the term “ultimate fighting” used, it’s usually in a negative context or by someone who just doesn’t understand what they’re talking about. To me, pushing it as the name of our sport would empower a lot of detractors and engender a lot more false stereotypes.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 6, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t mind using a term other than ultimate fighting. But Mixed Martial Arts is a failed attempt, IMO. Something like Tonley’s “freestyle fighting” would work a lot better.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
imo if you called it “freestyle fighting” it takes away the image of professionalism and makes me think bar room brawlers
by Epy on Mar 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe so. I’m sure somebody can come up with a reasonable phrase for the sport.
I mean, its not like it isn’t obvious MMA is a fairly lousy phrase. When a sport is generically referred to as “ultimate fighting” and EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, and only a few hardcore fans get upset about it and insist that they say MMA. . . thats a failed elitist standpoint, no two ways about it.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
Dana said it best, do you wanna be a fuckin’ fighter?
So just call it fuckin’ fighting, or just fighting for short.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
It’s fighting, for Christ’s sake. What you up to tomorrow? Watching the fights.
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 6, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
This should be a fanpost
Very nice contrarian argument. Rec’d.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
I can’t imagine how bitter someone must be to see “MMA” as “invented by some geeky fanboy elitists on the net.”
I would continue the argument but I have to go judoing, muay thaiing, and jiu jitsuing.
My understanding is that the term “Mixed Martial Arts” was invented by people on a specific messageboard in response to the lack of a generic name for the sport and a refusal to use the term “ultimate fighting.” Geeky fanboy elitists is a mean way to refer to them, but they WERE geeky fanboys, and the insistence on using the term is elitist.
I’m a geeky fanboy myself, and I have definite elitist tendencies, so I can’t see pointing out when other people do it as “bitterness.” On the other hand, I suspect you’re uncomfortable with it, since you responded so prissily.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
So anytime you have to come up- with a new term it becomes geeky elitism? I always thought the term started because the original UFCs mixed different styles to fight against each other. Like the boxer vs the sumo or kickboxer vs karate. Later the term evolved with the fighters into meaning each fighter mixed martial arts styles in order to become complete fighters.
I don’t think it is stupid and it was a good enough term to apply to different eras of MMA without losing meaning.
I could be wrong, but I read a very specific account of the term “MMA” being developed on a fanboard to describe the sport. Obviously they developed the term because of all the mixed fighting styles taking place in the sport, but it wasn’t like the fighters came up with the term, or it developed organically among the general fans of the sport. It was artificially created, by fans who refused to use the term “ultimate fighting.”
Now that wouldn’t even be a problem, except for two things. 1) its not a particularly great or catchy term, and more importantly 2) the term “MMA” isn’t what is used in the popular parlance, and when people get upset about the use of the term “ultimate fighting,” that is pure elitism.
by Michaelthebox on Mar 6, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
But Kevin revealed the true reason for the injury: "We were ultimate fighting!"
Exact moment my soul imploded.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Trying to reach out to a different demo? I have no idea who these guys are…which apparently is a good thing.
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Comparable relevance, I guess. Aren’t they liveblogging that just for you anyway?
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 6, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
What a bunch of dorks
They sound like little pussy bitches who are spoiled. “We were ultimate fighting”? That does not make sense, what was Bruce Buffer there and Rogan? Were your hands wrapped in gloves? I am so sick hearing about these kids.
These little boys will be forgotten just like the Hansen bros and other pop fad groups. Ugh, it makes me sick that people actually think they have talent and buy their “music”. Its horrid I tell you, HORRID!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
I'll take Bonus Jonas (-300) via English currency
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Luke, how did you even come across this story? Honest question.
That's great, but how does it affect Lyoto Machida?
Dude
Clay Guida could totally decision these guys.
by MauiPimpin on Mar 6, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
This is the one thing that pisses me off about this website. Shit like this is so hypocrytical. You talk about getting the word out about MMA and trying to push the sport all around the country, however if a celebrity, a person who can bring more recognition than any blogger, you act like its a sacrilegious crime. Is it a bad thing that the Jonas Brothers like the UFC? Any exposure is good exposure. Ok, they’re music is meant for the younger kids, but who cares…how does that define them as people.
Oh wait, I forgot….if you dont know about Pride or the life story of Wandy, you cant be a fan. Get over yourself. It’s not YOUR sport.
Being with me is like being with a broken tampon. There's no strings attached.
“Is it a bad thing that the Jonas Brothers like the UFC?”
So they like the UFC becuase he said they were “ultimate fighting”?
*scratches head
I agree with you about having celebs push the sport and thats why I say UFC needs to hit up Staples Center in LA way more. Don’t see why they didn’t do UFC 100 there as it holds way more seats than Mandalay Bay of MGM. Still, I don’t see how this implies the Jonas brothers are into UFC or MMA for that matter.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 6, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
Jesus, buddy, is it possible for you to miss the point any worse than this? What in the mother fuck are you talking about?
Then what does “the first person to bury a machete in my gray matter wins a prize” refer to? To me, it sounds like you’re offended that people like the Jonas brothers would mention ultimate fighting.
And dont get me wrong, I, in no way, am a fan of the Jonas Brothers.
Being with me is like being with a broken tampon. There's no strings attached.
Guys, WTF?
The whole point is a light hearted jab. Do I think MMA has jumped the shark? No, not at all. But like any ascendant cultural phenomenon, sometimes its going to inevitably reach an oversaturation point. This whole post is just a playful take on that. Do I dislike the Jonas brothers? Of course, so I threw in the machete comment, but if the Jonas brothers liking MMA (or whatever you want to call what they’re doing) helps the sport, the more the merrier.
Some of y’all really need to relax with the cynicism.
You know what, I took over some pre-pissedoffedness from another website that had an article where the bottom posts were undoubtedly saying certain people werent “cool” or “down” enough to watch the sport of MMA. I dont know why, but when I saw this all that energy just got focused here.
I know that wasnt your intention. My bad, BE is actually my favorite website BY FAR. Its where I spend 85% of my work day.
Being with me is like being with a broken tampon. There's no strings attached.
by Gogoplatapus on Mar 9, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think they’d say they were ultimate fighting if they hated it. That’s not even the point tho. My point is the hardcorer’s getting all bent out of shape when someone outside the “cool guy MMA blogger” circle refers to MMA, UFC, ultimate fighting, etc.
Being with me is like being with a broken tampon. There's no strings attached.
They
are however, saying it to look tougher. And have zero knowledge of the sport.
Last I checked, we don’t throw things in “ultimate fighting” especially at the back of people’s head. UNLESS, you want to refer to a new league called Ultimate Last Resort Fighting.
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How dare you taint Fraggle Rock like that.
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 6, 2009 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 6, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
Some things are sacred.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Mar 6, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, you got problems...
Fraggle Rock is awesome.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Just for the record, I was definitely NOT putting down Fraggle Rock. As a young lad, I carried a stuffed Mokey everywhere I went.
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Wait, so are you a Jonas Brothers fan? Dude, you got problems…
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Since music is supposedly my thing....
Here’s my post on this:
http://awmusic.ca/2009/03/06/the-jonas-brothers-dont-know-shit-about-ultimate-fighting/
:). Always good to have an excuse to discuss something MMA related on my blog.
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By the way...
I’ve never mentioned it. But yours is one of my favorite blogs on the net.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 7, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
Wow thanks
big compliments.
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