Roy Jones' "March Badness" Results
by Nick Thomas on Mar 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT
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PrintThanks for joining us.MMA Results:
Dennis Hallman > Danny Ruiz by first-round submission (rear-naked choke)
Din Thomas > Gabe Lemley by first-round KO (knee)
Bobby Lashley > Jason Guida by unanimous decision
Jeff Monson > Roy Nelson by unanimous decisionBoxing Results:
B.J. Flores > Jose Luis Herrera by unanimous decision
Kieyon Bussey > Robert DaLuz by majority decision
Roy Jones > Omar Sheika by fifth-round TKO
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At the very least we’ll have a live results post up so folks can discuss during the show. I know I’ll be watching.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 20, 2009 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll need links – I think it’s a decent card but I can’t bring myself to buy it
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 20, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
come fight time, could you tell me where justin's house is? ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
if you have a DA sure, if not, you wouldnt be able to comment there, so email me.
if im not posting on the results page come fight time, then something happened and i wasn’t able to watch.. If im there, ill just type in my email. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll be watching from my hotel room...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 20, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa, seriously dude?
I missed this before I called you a punk down at the bottom. Rescinded!
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Guida: HAVE YOU SEEN MY BASEBALL
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 20, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 11 recs
Main Event—12 Rounds—Light Heavyweights
Roy Jones Jr. vs. Omar Sheika
MMA—3 Rounds—Heavyweights
Roy Nelson vs. Jeff Monson
10 Rounds—Cruiserweights
B.J. Flores vs. Jose Luis Herrera
MMA—3 Rounds—Heavyweights
Bobby Lashley vs. Jason Guida
MMA—3 Rounds—Lightweights
Din Thomas vs. Gabe Lemley
MMA—3 Rounds—Light Heavyweights
Dennis Hallman vs. Danny Ruiz
Undercard
6 rounds—Bantamweights
Kieyon Bussey vs. Robert DaLuz
Women—6 Rounds—Featherweights
Corrine Van Ryk DeGroot vs. Elizabeth Moreno
4 Rounds—Super Middleweights
Richmond Dalphone vs. Marvin Blair
4 rounds— heavyweights
Kelvin Price vs. Kevin Howard
MMA—3 Rounds—Light Heavyweights
James Freeman vs. John Mowry
MMA—3 rounds—welterweights
Jonathon Brookings vs. TBA
Women—6 Rounds—Featherweights
Corrine Van Ryk DeGroot vs. Elizabeth Moreno
aka Panther from American Gladiators
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 20, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
She has a HL video on her site set to “Good Luck” by Basement Jaxx. I’ll be (DeG)rooting for her.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 20, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
This is an excellent structure for how to do the bouts on a mixed card
I gotta give RJJ credit for that.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 20, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, my fellow degenerates… aka betting “enthusiasts”.
Let’s hope some odds come out on this.
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I may be mistaken but I think Roy Nelson has beaten Monson in grappling before. At NAGA or Grappler’s Quest IIRC.
Under pure jiu jitsu rules perhaps
No-Gi Monson will pwn him everytime
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 20, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Lashley is going to suffer from James Thompsonitis, he is such a giant man and so much muscle, the oxygen and energy he will run through in any form of grappling will be immense.
He should shed some muscle if he intends on fighting for 15 minutes.
i kind of agree cause muscle takes up so much more oxygen. I think that he should change is body a bit for MMA. Also the conditioning it takes for MMA is definitely more then (fake) wrestling.
he's a three time national champion wrestler
and not (fake) wrestling either. real life
im not impressed with your performance
Tomorrow, starts at 9 PM ET.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 20, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks Roy Nelson is going to get submitted by Jeff Monson, probably by a sweet ass choke.
I think if Monson is on his game, he’s a better MMA grappler than Nelson is (disclosure: huge Jeff Monson mark). But Monson hasn’t been consistently on his game lately, and Nelson isn’t just a big dude – he’s also really strong. If he gets top position on Monson, look out.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
If anyone’s interested, Bad Left Hook will be doing the boxing live tomorrow night. Brent was going to be doing the MMA portion for this show but went on vacation with his wife like a punk. I am an MMA fan but do not have the expertise, if you will, to try and PBP MMA fights. If anyone’s interested in doing it, we just do it all in the comments so feel free to jump in there with some analysis.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
I’m in. It would be totally against the spirit of the occasion for both sites to have their own live threads, and since RJJ is putting on the show, I think everyone from BE should sign up and go discuss the spectacle over at Bad Left Hook.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Besides just SC
There are some very knowledgeable boxing fans on BLH also.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 21, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Without a doubt. I’m generally too timid to comment over there because the level of discussion is so high.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions
How deep are the waters at BLH? Will MMA fans be considered backwards bloodbath barbarians if we don’t display boxing knowledge? Cause while mingling could be fun, I know jack about boxing. I promise to play nicely if they will.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 4:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Nah everyone is cool over there. I’m sure we can all get along. And if not… Warriors style gang showdown at dawn.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 4:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Maaannn. We gotta bop our way back to Coney?
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
See what you get when you mess with the Orphans…
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
Shit! The chicks are packed! THE CHICKS ARE PACKED!!!
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
if you dont know anything about boxing just keeping say how much you loved Jones vs. Griffin 2. and since you probably have never seen it, here you go. enjoy RJJ when he was the baddest man on the planet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_Tb6eSso-o
f.y.i -jones suffered his first loss when he was DQ in the 1st match.
"King of NBA Live '09"
Impressive! Thanks mate!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
How deep are the waters at BLH?
Quite shallow. The most anti-MMA opinion we’ve ever had on the site was “eh, I don’t like it so much.” Of course we’ve never had MMA fights on our cards before so WHO KNOWS?
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for Hallman
They should be good fights. Monson vs Nelson would be the MMA equivalent of watching Mora vs Malignaggi though. It will be a purists fight. So maybe that one not so much. If I’m watching I’ll try to explain the submissions and positioning they are going through to give it more explanation than. It looks like he’s laying on him.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 21, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m in, even though I’m completely perplexed and befuddled by boxing. I’d like to learn more about it anyway.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m with you – if I can catch it, I’m in the LiveBlog. Boxing isn’t my thing, but maybe this’ll turn me.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions
correct
The MMA fights are better than the boxing fights on this card. Now a Floyd Mayweather vs JMM fight could be a little better. Since JMM is even more of a counterpuncher than Floyd it would be interesting to see what Floyd looks like on offense or if he would just stink out the joint. In the Hatton vs Mayweather fight Ricky finally made Floyd FIGHT for the first time in years and it was awesome to see the dynamic aggressive Floyd again.
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 21, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
If boxing has never been your thing this POS card is certainly not going to change your mind. For the record: Jones-Sheika is a laughable by way of depressing fight, and Flores-Herrera is umm…well. It’s not terrible. It’d be about third down on a good ESPN2 card.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
I dig boxing, but I just don’t really understand much of it. Footwork, positioning, angles, bobbing and weaving, etc. I have a very, very rudimentary knowledge of some of that stuff, but I’m pretty lost for the most part.
That said, I’ve tried to watch what boxing matches I can and there are few I had a pretty good time with even with neophyte status: some of Roy Jones Junior’s fights (I suspect they were when he was younger; his speed/reflexes and ability to avoid damage is really fun to watch) and the Vasquez/Marquez trilogy. Oh, and Hagler/Hearns, but I’m under the impression that just means that you’re alive.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Roy was amazing in his prime. Maybe the greatest and most dominant athlete I’ve ever seen perform in real time, up there with Jordan. Now, uh, not so much.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Good choice on Vasquez Marquez
Just to give you an idea of how amazing it can get…
Here is my man in my sig in perhaps the greatest fight of all time
rd by rd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aXVduINXrM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ9uLC_cjMI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-Gt26Vvbos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq14wukhEfE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYJ3Of1bZHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYU5hh3Rf6E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFVc7f4mP78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFf3uXBR50o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HNvRffipv0
And the closer which sealed at perhaps the greatest fight to take place in a boxing ring – Neither fighter was ever the same after this fight… I watch it each year on the anniversary of Chico’s death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poqdHSkElh0
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 21, 2009 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll second this as, at the very least, the greatest fight I have ever seen.
"If they cut my bald head open, they will find one big boxing glove. That's all I am. I live it." -- Marvin Hagler
by Scott Christ on Mar 21, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Sweet!
I will check this out. I never know where to start, and this looks promising.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
That was a good fight. I can see why you love Corrales.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I got kinda bored with it until the last round, which was awesome. They came out, touched heads, and threw punches from inside, occasionally slugging. Repeat. I think that’s why I have a hard time with boxing – I know there’s a ton of skill and dynamic fighting styles, but in the end, it’s all just punching. I can’t wrap my head around why they would willingly use such a limited fighting style, nor do I find it suspenseful when I know what’ll happen each round.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
The wikipedia entry on boxing was somewhat helpful for me (found here). Specifically the boxing terminology section. It goes some into style, stance, etc.
I felt like I had a marginally better handle on the action after that.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
You gotta understand the significance of what they were doing
Those were the top 2 135 lbers IN THE WORLD at that point after Floyd Mayweather. Both those guys were absolutely devastating punchers. The amount of punishment they were dishing out was truly insane.
Look up Diego’s record at 130/135 and Castillo’s record there. 2 Biggest punchers in teh division beating each others brains in
Gimme 1 round!
by ItBurnzWhenIP on Mar 21, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lets all take a moment to remember the good ole’ days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnMXzgeZo
"King of NBA Live '09"
Moves...so...quickly...
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Can’s wait for the WWF-style shite talking session.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
Here’s a Junie Browning impersonator.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
I resent the corn remark. I am in Iowa and can’t see and cornfields from my house.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
Has any fight started yet? I can get a broadcast yet.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:23 PM EDT reply actions
What happened? Boxing, MMA, who won?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Shiney. Thanks.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Who’s your profile pic He looks old-school Russian.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Lysander Spooner. Old school anarchist.
by a tommy point on Mar 21, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s got a real “Rasputin” vibe goin’ on.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
At least you can find a working one
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks Justin!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Justin's house
is frickin huge. It seems tiny at first but it fits a lot of people. ;)
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It seems tiny at first but it fits a lot of people.
That’s what she said!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
beat chris brown!
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
Last time anyone saw him, it wasn’t his mouthpiece hanging out…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I fear his life
if he spits it out.
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Lashley back and forth from ATT every week.
That’s crazy. I’m impressed.
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Justin’s house is killing me. His reception sucks.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Get what you pay for, ha.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You wanna pay for this?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell no – I’m crashing on Justin’s couch right now.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
am i the only one where the toggle fullscreen doesnt work?
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t even bothered – the resolution us bad enough as it is, no reason to make it worse.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck it, I’m out. Justin’s house is a complete wreck. It just about destroyed my ride too…fuck, it’s so bad that this even this analogy is breaking down. See ya’ll later and have a good time.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 21, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah – it’s no Wargodz, but it’ll do.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Woah, just in time for the fail.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
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by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 21, 2009 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
What is the ref doing?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
It’s pretty brutal.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
Absurd Meridian
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 21, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
first 2 rounds to Lashley
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
None to us
we lost there.. Come one KTFO him out.
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He`s a raw
Gray Maynard…
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Yeah, Monday Night Raw!
(sorry hadda say it)
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
I was just thinking how much better this would have been as a ladder match. But that goes for pretty much every fight.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the worst fights I’ve ever seen.
Lashley has a lot of work to do. In a sense, everyone lost in this fight.
At least guida didn’t give up after he gassed, like usual. or show us his nutsack.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
Is that Luke Thomas?
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
I was just drinking with our editor-in-chief. My first time meeting him. Dude is tall.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
What are y’all?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
NYC
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude! I didn’t even know you lived here. Where at? I’ve been in Park Slope for 3 years and I’m moving back to Boston next weekend.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m being an ass. I live in Vegas (Henderson, actually). I’m moving back to Chicago in June.
http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com
hahaha, I felt awful for a minute. Pwned.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
now it’s just me you have to hang with
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You people with your interesting cities – I don’t think anyone on BE lives close to me.
That’s so weird how nowadays you can work with people all across the country, yet rarely ever meet them.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, I’m in Texas with no interesting cities near.
by Cannon Jacques on Mar 21, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Which part? I’m in southern Louisiana!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Hopefully there’s more out there than cults or gov’t agents.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL. It’s funny how shit like that makes a certain area famous…or infamous. Yeah, I don’t even know of any other cults.
by Cannon Jacques on Mar 21, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s very weird. The BE staff hardly communicate. Or at least no one talks to me.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Ha.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
Absurd Meridian
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 21, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I want my 15 minutes back. I demand 15 minutes of Bobby Lashley’s life.
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lol.. i got pissed how i woke up at 9am after drinking the night before for this..
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
9am? Where the hell are you?
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
that's cool.
yup. im in luzon.. from manila actually.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
ya haha. whre in luzon though? cause i hardly meet anyone who call's their hometown luzon..
unless maybe her family is from one of the other provinces here.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In a province…don’t know the name of it. Her brother just got hurt really bad yesterday and they had to travel 3-4 hours to get to the nearest decent hospital. She’s not here right now so I can’t ask her where exactly
damn.. that sucks dude.. im sorry to hear that..
..that must be some deep province to have a hospital that far away.. tell them to move to the city! haha. :D
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
nah its okay dude..
youre in teh US right? now what if you wake up and her whole family wants to move in with you?? hahahaha. :D
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha, as mentioned above, I’ve been drinking tonight, I think that’s the only thing allowing me to tolerate this.
At least I still got the Klitschko fight and the NCAA Div I Wrestling finals to watch after this garbage.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I wonder what celebrity Din Thomas is going to call out next after the next time he fights? As for Lashley I think he will do better in his next fight.
He couldn’t do much worse.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Offered to beat down Chris Brown for Rhianna.
by a tommy point on Mar 21, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Monson-Nelson!
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
oh okay, i thought that fight was over since bobby had a "bigger" name for them i think.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It does seem odd. But Nelson had the fight on national TV against Arlovski and Monson has fought for the UFC belt so I guess it makes sense.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I just hope they don’t hide behind their gloves for the whole thing – while I don’t care for most boxing, I love good fisticuffs.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I like the boxing guys's comentary....
something like "….from the non-stop action of MMA, there is a lot more….. er, strategy here in boxing. " LOL!
He means alot more boredom.
hey you cant hate on him cause he's a boxing guy..
if rogan was to call a boxing match, he’d get bored and talk about different stuff cause he wont see a rubber guard. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, he’s a fan of boxing – I remember on ESPN when some boxing guy was saying MMA fans were unintelligent, Rogan began discussing Pernell Whitaker
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I keep thinking he’s talking about BJ Penn
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions
So Lashley looked like shit, eh? What’s up with Nelson-Monson?
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions
Lashley = LNP for the win.
Guida nearly caught him in a guillotine in round 3. That was the whole fight.
I agree this boxing match is pretty boring, but you have to appreciate how much more technically sound these guys are at boxing than MMA fighters. Consider how Josh Koscheck threw his jab and got KTFOed, and then watch these big beasts throw theres.
Of course they’re better at punching – that’s all they train and all they defend against.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I love this...
over on BLH the boxing fans were respectful during the MMA and yet over here all the MMA fans are acting like watching boxing is going to kill them. But I bet in a day or two I’ll see a bunch of comments here from our crowd crying about boxing fans being mean.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
I don't have a problem w/ boxing.....
I don’t think calling it boring is disrespectful. Boxing fans talk about the aspects of MMA and make fun of that, that’s what I have a problem with.
calling it boring is fine..
there were some comments that went well overboard
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
and I mean prior to this fight...
I loathe Flores
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
If anything they should be complaining because they were forced to sit through Lashley/Guida before they could get to their sport.
On behalf of MMA fans, I’m sorry!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, to be fair, there’s like less than ten people on BLH watching this event, and two of them are you and skwirrl. With a larger base of commenters at BE, there’s bound to be more guys like that here.
I’d preface every comment with ‘well, back when I killed Kimbo in 14 seconds…’
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't touch that dial.....
…we’ll be back in less time than it took me to single handly kill a back yard brawler and an MMA org with 1 weak jab."
He doesn't overdo it
Says his business and isn’t an over-talker which plagues many commentators.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, fuck those uneducated fans that prefer MMA to this nonsense!
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not the preference...
it’s the all out bitching about the other sport but then getting pissy and defensive if boxing fans say the same thing about MMA
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I was referring to the announcer inferring that the only reason people were booing was that they didn’t get it.
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah...
they’re booing because it’s a turd of a fight
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I mean...I don't want it to seem like I wasn't saying that
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 21, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad we’re clear, because this fight sucks
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
It's ok boxing guy....
Most MMA fans boooo and don’t realize how good most MMA fights are too.
by Dexerion on Mar 21, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I’m reccing this with no reservations
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Well then, Yoda
A bad one I’d hate to see.
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
What song is that? I actually liked it.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it over?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions
Grappling Anarchist vs. Fat Guy Named Nelson
I’m torn. But I say war Big Country.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, and for lawyers for defending against said swine
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Undercard fight from earlier. Maybe we get an early round KO?
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Technically calling someone a “midget” is just as insulting to the vertically challenged as calling someone “nigger”. The proper, PC terms are “dwarf” or “little person.” I actually like dwarf – it’s one syllable shorter and rolls of the tongue.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That guy that said ‘only two more rounds’ inadvertently coached me
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions
damit i thought we were gonna see a ko already.
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 21, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
stalling?
Maybe Monson wanted to throw up a few quick circle A’s in the parking lot before he heads to the ring.
by Jaydoggydog on Mar 21, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hard shots to the dome
I think now we’re seeing why they decided to show this prelim.
“A little home cookin’? They put a meal out tonight. Chicken, rice and brocoli.”
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Jimmy Lennon Jr = Knockout Kings in my memory banks
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions
Bussey was the hometown boy and RJJ’s protegee. Total screwjob.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions
what has worse judges decisions… boxing or mma? you must leave out the wargods show… i dont think they had real judges there.
Were the judges for that British?
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Only the one that gave it to Matt 30-27. Weird, I know
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 21, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Bisping won rounds 2 and 3.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 22, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re fucking crazy. Round 2 was Round 1.
by Derek Suboticki on Mar 22, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree with this...
I’ve watched and rewatched the fight and I think Bisping wins it 29-28 every time.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 22, 2009 7:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Woo! Back to MMA!
Hopefully this won’t be boring.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 21, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions
NOPE
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 21, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
knees to the...
what is that thing? Does the paunch feel pain?
by Jaydoggydog on Mar 21, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad decision – I wonder how familiar the judges are with MMA and if that influenced the dec.
I’m out, then. Night folks.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Mar 22, 2009 12:03 AM EDT reply actions
I think the judges were either anarchists, or size-ists
by Jaydoggydog on Mar 22, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
wow. bad decision. roy controlled the grappling and the stand-up game was inconsequential.
i watched the feed from a boxing site, guys—not a pleasant experience.
I can't wait until.....
the 1st huge big name boxer comes to MMA. So many questions will be answered.
Roy Jones Jr. has still got it.
No, he doesn’t.
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by Scott Christ on Mar 22, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Bradu from the UG comments on the card:
Jeez, this was one of the worst events I can recall. Jones looked REALLY sharp, and I thought that he might be able to save the show with a great KO, but instead we get a ref jumping in to stop a fight BEFORE Sheika was ever even rocked! I don’t think I’ve ever seen a fight stopped when a guy wasn’t even hurt.
The Lashley-Guida fight was a snoozer, and the ref blew it when he didn’t even notice that Guida was holding the ropes for about 15 seconds to avoid being taken down.
The 10 round boxing fight was a total snoozer, then the 6 rounder that followed was a horrible decision, then the Monson-Nelson fight was a bad decision as well.
On top of all of that, the commentating was bad at times too. Seth was fine I thought. Nate Campbell was good with the exception of when his buddy was fighting because he was the most blatantly bias commentator I’ve ever heard. The Colonel was bad too, he was really annoying and too much of a nuthugger on every single guy. He was way too agreeable to the other commentators and never seemed to have his own opinion. He also had no knowledge of MMA.
All in all, can’t say I was thrilled with this card from matchups to everything else. Yikes. Sorry for being such a Debbie Downer, but I know I’m not the only one who was disappointed with this one!
The match ups were good but doesn’t mean the event will always pan out. I still thought it was a strong effort by Roy Jones Jr. putting on this event. I hope he tries it again because he seems to have a good indication on what sells as far as a MMA match.
As for commentators . . . when has any MMA fan ever said a nice thing about commentators, bad commentary and refs are the third rail of the sport.
Totally agree.
Roy Jones had the right idea. I don’t want him to not do this again because some fans didnt find it exciting and the decisions were questionable. Overall it seemed to be up to par with what the average fan expected, negative or not.
by Brandon Starr on Mar 22, 2009 5:32 AM EDT up reply actions
all i can say is FLORIDA?? REALLY??
So Florida, you have an opportunity to have a decent to big size show, with some good, if not anticipated MMA fights and one of the GREATEST boxers of all time there and those judges were the best you could scrounge up. DaLuz and Nelson got fe-ucked, in a 100 years you couldnt convince me that those decisions made any sense, unless they were like the old colonel and decided a few short knees that barely connected were more important than 3 or 4 dominating take downs by big country. all in all I was a little impressed with Lashley, and think Dana is crazy if he doesnt take a serious look at this guy, hes no Brock yet but seems to have a bunch of potential, I think if he was in a cage he would have ended it in the first round, since there would have been no rope to get a death grip on by Guida.
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