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Bloody Elbow Exclusive: Ken Shamrock to Face Bobby Lashley at Roy Jones Jr.'s "March Badness"

3209510479_9983224d57_mediumSources close to Bloody Elbow can exclusively confirm that the heretofore unnamed opponent of former WWE superstar Bobby Lashley set to square off at Roy Jones Jr.'s mixed boxing and MMA event known as "March Badness" is none other than Ken Shamrock.

Shamrock is coming off a recent submission victory over Ross Clifton at the inaugural Wargods event on February 13, 2009. Lashley is coming off of his professional MMA debut, stopping Joshua Franklin at a Mixed Fighting Alliance event on December 13, 2008. The bout between Lashley and Shamrock will be contested at heavyweight.

The Lashley vs. Shamrock bout is part of an hybrid boxing-mixed martial arts card being assembled and promoted by former Ring Magazine pound-for-pound greatest boxer alive in Roy Jones, Jr. Jones's promotional company, Square Ring Promotions, Inc., has scheduled the event to take place at the Pensacola Civic Center in Pensacola, Florida and will be broadcast live on pay-per-view. According to published reports, a press conference had been scheduled for Feb. 11 to formally announce the event. There are no updates and when or if there will be a formal press conference. The event itself is scheduled for March 21st.

Also appearing on the card will be Jones himself as he takes on Omar Sheika in a light heavyweight boxing bout. BJ Flores is also set to fight on the card, although the opponent has not yet been named.

In MMA action, former victor over Kimbo Slice and season two veteran of "The Ultimate Fighter" in Seth Petruzelli will lock horns with former WEC light heavyweight champion Doug "The Rhino" Marshall. Another MMA bout scheduled to take place involves former IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson taking on former UFC heavyweight contender Jeff "The Snowman" Monson.

Lashley will be fighting for only his second time in professional MMA competition, however, concerns have swirled surrounding Ken Shamrock's health and ability to fight at the professional level given his age as well as the damge he has sustained over the course of his career. Shamrock's only recent win comes against a 6-9 Ross Clifton. The 45 year-old has lost five of his last six professional matches and was removed from the EliteXC: Heat card in October of 2008 just hours prior to his fight due to injuries allegedly sustained during pre-fight warm-ups.

UPDATE: I suppose its a good thing when you get scooped and no one realizes it, but Loretta thinks I'm late to the party:

Shamrock’s manager, Rod Donohoo, confirmed that contracts for the clash between veteran and newcomer were signed on Monday. Dave Meltzer, of Figure4online.com, was the first to report on the bout.

Don't lose your mind, folks: I didn't borrow this. I have a legitimate source. If I got scooped, so be it. I didn't realize I had, but c'est la vie. Just don't think this was borrowed. Props, Dave.

UPDATE 2: I don't want to prolong this issue beyond here, but our exclusivity stands.  The details are in Dave's fine print:

The match was reported earlier today by bloodyelbow.com, and confirmed by other sources.

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I’m pretty sure that Jones/Sheika is at Light Heavyweight (175), not Super Middle (168).

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by JCS_FM on Mar 2, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good catch. I’ll fix it.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This event is going to be amazing for all the wrong reasons.

by Lyrias on Mar 2, 2009 5:33 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This is the best/worst thing since YAMMA

Keep firing Assholes!

by Ubernoober on Mar 2, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This event has a whole lot of awesome in it.

Creator of the FightMatrix rating system.

by JCS_FM on Mar 2, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

From this:

To this:

by mmafiend on Mar 2, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm willing to bet that Lashley

looks a whole lot more deflated in comparison to that picture.

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by JCS_FM on Mar 2, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

what in gods name is this.? Stuff like this should not even be legal.

by miss_mma on Mar 2, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yippy…….

I can’t believe they are going to try and sell this as a PPV.

by who me on Mar 2, 2009 5:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brent must liveblog.

by Nick Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 5:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Sadly..

Brent will be on vacation

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The man is sad about being on vacation, and he’s speaking of himself in the third person. Just your typical day at BE.

by Cannon Jacques on Mar 2, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You know it...

I am legitimately upset that I’ll be on vacation for this show. How sick is that?

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

there's some mma addicts for you! haha!

pretty soon someone’s gonna say, “im really pissed, im gonna on my honeymoon on a ufc weekend!”

..but seriously though, someone live blog this.. This is gonna be greaaat! i dont know why, maybe cause it has train wreck written all over it again, but im excited for this! Probably gonna skip the roy jones match though..

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by Anton Tabuena on Mar 2, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is a tough one to pick. Bobby Lashley was the ECW champ a couple times as well as the United States champ. On the other hand, Ken Shamrock did win the King of the Ring tournament and the Intercontinental title. So hard to pick…

by ilostmydog on Mar 2, 2009 5:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind that Shamrock will have the Corporation in his corner to offset Donald Trump in Lashley’s corner.

by rabrown on Mar 2, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say..

cage or ring is the deciding factor. If you remember back to the old “Lions Den Matches” of the WWF Shamrock is very difficult to beat in the cage while Lashley has had more success in a roped environment.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did Ken even win a Lion’s Den match? I’m pretty sure he lost to Owen Hart and Steve Blackman.

by godzillad on Mar 2, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Did he?

Damn…I couldn’t remember…thought I’d be safe putting that out there

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As real as it gets IMO.

by mmafiend on Mar 2, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

he even did a youtube search on it! hahaha.

Shamrock by ankle lock! Lashley would then try to crawl, screaming and headbobbing his way to reach the ropes..

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by Anton Tabuena on Mar 2, 2009 7:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looked it up...

Shamrock won both Lion’s Den matches, though he lost to Owen in the Hart Family Dungeon.

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by Chris Nelson on Mar 2, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YES!

I’m so smart!

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 3, 2009 8:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lashley would have been the 2006 King of the Ring had it not been for Booker T cheating. Also he was the first person to beat Umanga clean.

Ken also got the title immediately stripped from him when he made The Rock tapout to the ankle lock but didn’t let go of it when Mike Chioda tried to end it.

by godzillad on Mar 2, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Correct. There is a possibility that Ken could submit Lashley but then get DQ’ed by not releasing the submission hold (I assume he would also be yelling and/or aggressively bobbing his head while torquing the hold).

by ilostmydog on Mar 2, 2009 6:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

YES! this has to be the greatest fight in ths history of MMA.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Mar 2, 2009 5:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

"March Badness"

Now that’s the shit.

by Cannon Jacques on Mar 2, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if this event will surpass the awesomeness that was WARGODS Valentine’s Eve Massacre.

Seriously though Ken, hang em up please. How ANY Athletic Commission allows him to fight is beyond me, the guy is going to get him self seriously hurt.

by ChillMike on Mar 2, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This is already 10 times better than Wargods. Not Ken Shamrock vs The biggest guy from local Hell’s Angels Club

by bignerd on Mar 2, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There was less talent on the entire Wargods card than is in the Nelson vs Monson fight and Petrucelli vs Marshall isn’t that bad either. Still this event does seem to be giving off the same vibe as Wargods did.

by who me on Mar 3, 2009 3:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

two WWE superstars. what more do you expect? :D
im excited about it.. i had so much fun watching wargods and im sensing another fun trainwreck. hopefully it comes with ring girls again haha.

Anyone know if it will just be shown on PPV? no live stream? the PPV isnt available here so ive got to find another way to watch it! haha.

http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/

by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2009 3:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would pay $99.99 ppv for this.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Mar 2, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

+1

Except I would skip the Roy Jones fight. I’m surprised he doesn’t want to box Ken Shamrock . . . it would be his M.O.

by bignerd on Mar 2, 2009 5:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You know, RJJ has been a little better in his last few fights, I’m surprised that he can’t get better opportunities in there. Freakin’ Hopkins is still getting big fights. Oh well, he must be asking for ridiculous money or something.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Mar 2, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RJJ hasn’t beat a good fighter since he beat Antonio Tarver in 2003. Since then he’s beat a couple of club fighters and a blown up (and shot) Tito Trinidad. Joe Calzaghe took Roy Jones apart in his last fight.

Hopkins, on the other hand, has been fighting the best and been either winning or losing very competitively. He lost to 2 decisions to Jermain Taylor (incredibly close fights), beat Winky Wright, Tarver and Pavlik, and gave Calzaghe all he could handle (lost a split decision).

The difference between the two is immense. Hopkins is a freak of nature at 44, Jones is aging and fighting like a 40 year old normally would, and there’s no shame in that. But Roy ain’t the Roy of old.

by kp the ghost on Mar 2, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's exactly right...

and the difference in fighting styles explains a lot also. Roy used to rely SO MUCH on speed both offensively and defensively and at 40 that starts to go. Hopkins doesn’t rely as much on speed but remains a freak of nature.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I wasn’t speaking strictly to talent level. Hopkins is very effective but not very fan friendly. RJJ was always very popular, and with a couple of solid showings, I expected him to at least get some higher profile fights.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Mar 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

This has Ken Shamrock making excuses alllllll over it.

Lashley by diving clothsline followed by spinning spinebuster after notable interference by Chris Jericho.

by DirtyML on Mar 2, 2009 5:59 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

You can bet on that.....

It wouldnt surprise me one bit. But, I see the excuse/injury coming a few days before fight time. HE will not wait to hours before the show

by fightfan on Mar 2, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t wait for the raffle.

by BadB on Mar 2, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

How can this be sanctioned? Is this considered assisted suicide?

by Riney on Mar 2, 2009 6:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Keep in mind this fight is in Florida, the same state with the same athletic commission that sanctioned Shamrock vs. Slice and found no wrong doing with ProElite re: paying Petruzelli to stand.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Since when is there proof that he was paid to stand?

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There’s not. But the commission openly stated they didn’t even want to do an investigation despite the merits of at least looking into the situation screaming for attention. Combine that they found no wrongdoing in a situation where Lappen contradicted himself three times in detailing how events unfolded and we are justified in wondering what veracity any investigation they launched actually has.

Add to that fact they sanctioned a fight that should arguably should never have been sanctioned and we are further justified in wondering how competent, impartial and capable this commission actually is.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 6:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, the FBC hardly instills a lot of confidence. I just wanted clarification on the “paid to stand” issue. BE previously seemed to heavily imply they were guilty, and I don’t think it is prudent to hand down judgement without any evidence, inept commission or not.

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I personally...

think it happened, and as a blogger (read: not a "journalist") I don’t always temper my opinion correctly. I do realize that this is a flaw of mine personally that while I don’t consider myself to be a “reporter” or “journalist” a lot of people look at MMA blogs as places where that should be required.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm quite flawed myself.

One of my flaws is wanting a straight answer when something as questionable as ‘StandGate’ emerges. We never got that. The FBC didn’t seem interested – a best case characterization of their response – in getting to the bottom of an allegation that had far-reaching implications for the sport. We’re talking about integrity. People need to know, and very much should know, that the product they’re getting is as advertised. That was my personal problem with the entire affair, and that’s my mini-rant for the day…maybe.

by Cannon Jacques on Mar 2, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

the evidence that something shady went on was pretty damning

Like, um, Petruzelli saying it on the radio.
We’re not a court, we’re a bunch of fans with opinions. We didn’t imply anything, we presented the evidence we found and made the arguments we believed.
The Shaws are sleazy and I’m glad they’re out of the biz.
If BE helped usher them out, good riddance.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Mar 2, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ok there Bernstein. I agree you aren’t a court in the literal sense (duh), but a panel of opinions like BE serves the analogy well enough.

As for Petruzelli’s comments, they could be taken a number of ways, like I pointed out when it first came out. Maybe he just thought that is what they would want since he was facing their “street fighting” star. I’m not really interesting in dredging up all this stuff again, but to suggest his flippant remarks were “damning evidence” is a bit much.

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The comment was damning enough that it required a hell of a lot more coherent explanation than was given by any of the parties involved.

The various attempts to explain it away were at best tortuous and at worst utterly inconsistent. And tellingly so from a company that had done itself no favors in its running of the EliteXC brand.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Mar 2, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

To me the response from the Shaws was far more daming that Petruzelli's comments

The fact that they offered him a bonus for only 1 of the ways to win a fight is splitting hairs away from fight fixing in my book. Something they couldn’t even concieve of when speaking on the subject.

by Razreshat on Mar 3, 2009 9:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The multiple stories from the Shaws and Lappan over the next few days were truly damning. Especially when old Shaw admitted they paid fighters to stand up all the time.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Mar 3, 2009 10:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

w00t!

rec’d

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Mar 2, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn Wrestler vs Wrestler and everybody was thinking brock vs lashley would be the first fight between to Wrastlers haha. i saw on another site a woman has retired from the WWE and started training MMA. Wrestlers are taking over MMA

"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye

by Pitbull on Mar 2, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Is this on PPV? How much is it I can’t wait to see Lashley crush SHAMrock

by ip the og on Mar 2, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think...

it is going to be like $35

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 6:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely gonna be streaming this for free.

by ufc4 on Mar 2, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I heard 29.95

by smirnhoff on Mar 2, 2009 7:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mmmmm

I might actually bite on that price if have no other plans.

by bignerd on Mar 2, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I changed my mind. I would pay $129.99!

Seriously, I agree nerd.

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Mar 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why does Lashley look like a bigger version of Wayne brady in that pic?

by "Mr. NC-17" on Mar 2, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Haha, I was trying to think of who he reminded me of.

by DirtyML on Mar 2, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Mar 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

ya i think its at WRESTLEMANIA 25 its gonna rock haha

"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye

by Pitbull on Mar 2, 2009 6:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Soooo many wrasslin jokes to be made here xD

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Mar 2, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Former IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson taking on former UFC heavyweight contender Jeff “The Snowman” Monson.

A legitimately interesting fight here is sadly overshadowed…

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Mar 2, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Petruzelli/Marshall...

is a fine fight also. I mean…it’s not “important” but it’ll be a fun watch.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 6:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Monson is approaching shitlist status for me.

by DirtyML on Mar 2, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

How is this interesting?

Nelson’s too fat and Monson’s too short.

by RoyalB on Mar 2, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nelson...

is a legit fighter though. I mean…I get it…he’s fat. But he is talented

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

put up against Monson, there ain’t no way this fight going to end quickly. It’s going to be sprawl and smother for three rounds

by RoyalB on Mar 2, 2009 6:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Or...

Nelson could use his longer reach to batter Monson – he’s KOed guys before, could do it again…If Nelson wins by smother (cf Emmanuel Yarborough), I’ll also laugh my ass off.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by themachiavellian on Mar 2, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s two top 20 HW . . .already be beats Kongo vs Al Turk

by bignerd on Mar 2, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also two of the best HW grapplers in MMA.

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

19 vs. 20 no less.

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by Richard Wade on Mar 2, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

a press conference is scheduled for Feb. 11

This event is gonna be so awesome it can hold press conferences in the past.

by ufc4 on Mar 2, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good catch.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Catch? I thought perhaps they had invented a flux capacitor to go back to when Shamrock was actually good.

by ufc4 on Mar 2, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

So you thought the conference was scheduled for Feb. 11th 1999?

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by Blackout612 on Mar 2, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

maybe the people

will be sent on a mission back to that press conference after the event to warn people how bad its going to suck?

im not impressed with your performance

by troy145 on Mar 2, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking Feb 11 1995

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by JCS_FM on Mar 2, 2009 7:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was prepared to go back that far, but decided to play nice. 1999 is playing nice for Shamrock and that’s very sad.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Mar 3, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

not that bad....

its actually not a bad mma card minus the shamrock slaughter. jones vs. shieka is iffy. shieka was a good and dangerous fighter about 8 years ago….same could be said for jones. anywho, certainly not a ppv quality card but i’ll be watching via illegal websites.

by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What will Ken think of next?

by JAYGK95 on Mar 2, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Laugh at me now while you can…..
I think Shamrock could take Bobby on technique.
WARGODZ

by BadB on Mar 2, 2009 8:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Oh and this:

Bobby fought December 13, 2008 not January 13, 2008.

by BadB on Mar 2, 2009 8:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Fucking hell

How did I fuck that up? Fixed.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

hahah

wtf proof read already

by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Is one of their agents Monte Cox?

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Mar 2, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This far superior to a Monte Cox production.

There is actually legit, interesting fights rumored for this card. I don’t know if it’s PPV worthy but I think it’s close.

Maybe . . . RJJ #4 MMA Promoter in US.

by bignerd on Mar 3, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Credit where credit is due?

From Loretta Hunt:

Shamrock’s manager, Roy Donohoo, confirmed that contracts for the clash between veteran and newcomer were signed on Monday. Dave Meltzer, of TheWrestlingObserver.com, was the first to report on the bout.

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 9:15 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can tell you..

that this was not taken by BE from any other website and came directly from an “inside source” as it was Luke’s source I won’t name names…but I can promise you that we didn’t take something from another site and say it was “from a source”

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'll add it up top.

But I can tell you that wasn’t my source and mine didn’t realize this was out.

by Luke Thomas on Mar 2, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I will add...

that you seem to really have it out for everyone on this site for some reason…

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Does Loretta hate you too? Relax guy

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying...

you seem to be awful quick to try and call everyone out at every opportunity lately. You seem a bit more aggressive in this than you used to be.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Run it back dawg

I saw the exclusive tag on this story. Then I saw Loretta Hunt’s story with the Meltzer mention. I thought to myself, how can Bloodyelbow exclusively report that which Dave Meltzer first reported? So I posted the bit here, seeking clarification, which LT swiftly provided. This is not “having it out” for anyone.

Now, Fightlinker… I hate those guys. Can you believe their “big announcement” was asking their followers to pay them to come up with bad jokes? What a bunch of d-bags. Plus they “hired” some new d-bag who is even less funny than the main fightlinker guy, and seems to really have it out for Joe Rogan, and Bloodyelbow/Luke Thomas for some reason. Whats up with that?

by smoogy on Mar 2, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is an idiot...

is all I can come up with. Long time commenter and the need for extra content put them in a situation where they brought him on board fully despite his obvious limitations. His response to every comment is the stuff of a 12 year old on Sherdog and to be honest “bloody anus” is the least clever “insult name” for our site possible.

He’s just jealous that he’s left to be a low rent “funny guy.”

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fightlinker wants to become the HBO of MMA comedy sites.

Oy.

Contributor Emeritus - BloodyElbow.com

by Chris Nelson on Mar 2, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I have...

considered offering them $100 to get Notorious CRS off the front page

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ditto...

I’ll donate some of my betting money to that fund, the guy is absolutely terrible.

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by Leland Roling on Mar 2, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

more bashing fightlinker

how about that dude rodriguez. my god, hes just f’n awful. stupid stories, unfunny, just bloody awful.

by sonofapsycho on Mar 2, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahh..

I believe Rodzillad has something to say..

by Johann on Mar 2, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dave’s report actually cites us.

by Michael Rome on Mar 2, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s time to change the tag line to the website . . .

BloodyElbow.com – The Inside MMA Source of Dave Meltzer

by bignerd on Mar 3, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

aww smoogy

I knew you loved us!
Hugs

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Mar 3, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, everyone missed the epic Fightlinker Notorious bashing on Luke Thomas and BloodyElbow.com posting. Good thing Google Reader saved it for me. It’s almost unreadable due to the unbelievably bad writing of Notorious.

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by Leland Roling on Mar 3, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

From Dave’s article on the fight: “The match was reported earlier today by bloodyelbow.com, and confirmed by other sources.”

by rabrown on Mar 2, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Also, TheWrestlingObserver.com isn’t even the address for Meltzer’s website (or any site for that matter).

by rabrown on Mar 2, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I would assume it's this...

here. but I don’t pay for Dave’s stuff.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good work guys

Nice on the exclusive. I don’t think smoogy has been out to get you guys either btw – he’s just doing his thing.

by rainmaker6 on Mar 2, 2009 10:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

Lashley backed out of a Feb fight against Mike Hayes citing an achiles heel injury. Reports are he would be out for a year. Quick recovery, or maybe he didnt want to fight Hayes.

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by Brandon Jones on Mar 2, 2009 11:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I can’t find a time he would be out, but I am looking.
MMA Junkie reported him pulling out

by szucconi on Mar 2, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ken found a perfect fight for himself – a name opponent he thinks he can beat. Still, if I were War Machine, I’d make damn sure I was in shape and could make 265 when this one rolled around. I smell another injury to Ken.

by lhasafi on Mar 3, 2009 3:25 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

206. :)

http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/

by Anton Tabuena on Mar 3, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen this quote before . . .
Ken Chuck found a perfect fight for himself – a name opponent he thinks he can beat.

Ok, I met my Chuck bashing quota for this month.

by bignerd on Mar 3, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If Chuck beats Shogun and Rampage beats Rashad, guaranteed it will Chuck vs Rampage again.

by DirtyML on Mar 3, 2009 3:38 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno. Chuck is 0-2 against Rampage. It’s the one guy he could not beat in his prime. Chuck might wait to see if Machida can beat Rampage.

by bignerd on Mar 3, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matching Chuck against Machida would just be cruel.

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by Chris Nelson on Mar 3, 2009 4:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

its a match Dana White would never do.

I always wanted to see Machida vs Chuck, especially after he lost to Rampage.

Chuck will always get tailor-made matches that he has a good chance of win and never someone whos style matches up with his badly.

They thought Jardine would match up with him badly and were wronged, they wont make the same mistake twice. They had to know Rampage was going to beat his ass again, because in their first fight it was probably one of the most lop sided ass kickings I’ve ever seen against two top tier fighters. And that was when Rampage was only 26 or 27 and had shit for training.

Chuck is a great fighter, but his friendship with Dana and Joe Silva makes his match ups take the credibility away from his legacy. He never gets thrown to the dogs, he gets favored match ups.

After Shogun he will probably fight Eric Schafer or maybe they’ll call up Kimbo. I want to see Chuck fight someone on the top of their game with a conflicting style and WIN. I dont think he has done that since Couture.

by DirtyML on Mar 3, 2009 4:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rampage was 0-2 against Wandy and got a third match.

by lhasafi on Mar 3, 2009 5:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True but compare the evolution of Rampage and his accomplishments since his second loss to Silva and Chucks since his second loss to Rampage.

by DirtyML on Mar 3, 2009 8:14 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The Wrestling Observer should change it’s name to “The Bloody Elbow Observer”.

by DirtyML on Mar 3, 2009 3:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

its a match Dana White would never do.

I always wanted to see Machida vs Chuck, especially after he lost to Rampage.

Chuck will always get tailor-made matches that he has a good chance of win and never someone whos style matches up with his badly.

They thought Jardine would match up with him badly and were wronged, they wont make the same mistake twice. They had to know Rampage was going to beat his ass again, because in their first fight it was probably one of the most lop sided ass kickings I’ve ever seen against two top tier fighters. And that was when Rampage was only 26 or 27 and had shit for training.

Chuck is a great fighter, but his friendship with Dana and Joe Silva makes his match ups take the credibility away from his legacy. He never gets thrown to the dogs, he gets favored match ups.

After Shogun he will probably fight Eric Schafer or maybe they’ll call up Kimbo. I want to see Chuck fight someone on the top of their game with a conflicting style and WIN. I dont think he has done that since Couture.

Gotta love the Chuck haters, I mean if Dana and the UFC wanted to protect him why would they sign the last 2 guys that beat him for title shots?. Don’t let facts get in the way of a nice conspiracy Liddell has fought a who’s who of fighters his entire career and will continue to do so until he retires. Stop being a hater and give the man his respect, because that post makes you sound like a pathetic Sherdogger.

by Raker on Mar 4, 2009 3:00 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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