WEC 39: Brown vs. Garcia Live Results and Commentary
by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 5:51 PM EST
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As with every major show we'll be here to bring you live results and commentary on WEC 39 Brown vs. Garcia. The live blog will start with the beginning of the Versus broadcast at 9pm ET so make sure to make Bloody Elbow your home for this event.
As always we have our one rule: NO SPOILERS! In the interest of not ruining anything from the undercard that may make the broadcast we ask that you do not discuss the results of the undercard in the comments until either the broadcast ends or the fight makes the air.
So again, join me for the show and share your thoughts as the event unfolds.
It's 9:00 Eastern and the show is getting started. First fight up shortly.
Big props to Baudelaire for the image.
Rob McCullough vs Marcus Hicks - Is up first and I'm really thinking Hicks is going to pull off the W here. Round 1 - Feeling out with pawing jabs to start the fight, no one really engaging yet. The crowd is turning as they've yet to engage over a minute 15 into the round. Overhand left by Hicks and he follows to a clinch. Knees in the clinch from McCullough as he has Hicks up against the cage. The ref separates them and they're back to the center of the cage. Left from Hicks lands. More boos from the crowd as they don't engage and as I type that an overhand left from Hicks lands again. Low kick from Rob now. Hicks clinches up with him again but is unable to get the takedown. Again they're restarted. Body shot by Hicks under the punch from Rob. Body kick by McCullough there. It wasn't a crowd pleaser but I give the round to Hicks 10-9. Round 2 - Low kick from Robv and Hicks drops him with a huge punch they go to the ground and Hicks grabs one of his patented guillotines and he is squeezing as Rob is fighting but McCullough gets out and is going wild throwing punches but he isn't really landing and Hicks just stands up. Low blow from Rob now and the action is halted briefly. Body kick from McCullough now. Rob is landing some more punches now but with 2 minutes left I've still got Hicks winning the round since he dropped McCullough with a punch. Hicks is fading and Rob lands a nice combination. Hicks is gassed here. Body shot by Marcus. Overhand left by Hicks lands. A flurry of punches lands and Hicks with a right hand to answer. Another overhand left lands. 10-9 Hicks in a VERY close round on my card on the strength of the knockdown/sub attempt. Round 3 - Over a minute of pawing jabs before Hicks lands a glancing left straight (he's a lefty). More of the same as we're down to half a round left in the fight. Low kick from Rob. Overhand left lands flush for Hicks. The ref threatens a "no contest" if they don't engage which is garbage as there is 90 seconds left. Hicks tries for a takedown but can't get it. Overhand left for Marcus again. Tight left hook for Hicks now. McCullough isn't doing enough in this round for me, not that Hicks is doing a lot but he's landign the flush shots every now and then with the left hand. 10-9 Hicks again and the BloodyElbow scorecard is 30-27 Hicks. Official Scorecards: 29-29, 30-27, 29-28 Rob McCullough. Rob McCullough wins by Majority Decision.
Chris Mickle vs Jose Aldo - Round 1 - Aldo looking a little wild and Mickle is throwing really wide punches. Big leg kick from Aldo now. Another very solid leg kick and then a fist to the face. Knee to the chest by Aldo and he unloads a flurry of punches as Mickle just covers up along the fence and the ref is forced to step in. It was well over 10 unanswered punches so a solid stoppage. Jose Aldo wins by TKO (Strikes), round 1.
Damacio Page vs Marcos Galvao - Round 1 - Right hand from Galvao and Page answers and now Page is unloading...absolutely UNLOADING. Galvao is down and it is a couple HUGE shots from Page and it's all over...damn that was some brutal action. Damacio Page wins by KO, round 1.
Ricardo Lamas vs Bart Palaszewski - Round 1 - Lamas looks like he is looking to slowly get into the fight as Bart is ready to go right away. Solid early leg kicks from Bart. Lamas catches one of Barts legs on a low kick and takes him down. Bart brings his legs up high looking for an arm but doesn't get anything. Legs high again and Lamas avoids a near triangle and is now standing over Bart and landing a few solid punches. Lamas jumps and Bart kicks him to the side and they're back to standing. Lamas looking for a single leg again. Bart concedes the takedown finally and tries to lock up an arm. Now Lamas stands up and throws a big flurry of punches. Bart slands up and has a mouse under his eye but he flurries with three punches to the body and one to the head. 10-9 round for Lamas. Round 2 - A few punches exchanged and Lamas clinches up. Bart with underhooks and Lamas tries for a hiptoss but it doesn't amount to anything. Bart tries to separate and throw punches but Ricardo is smothering him with the cage hump. Lamas has his back standing and manages to throw a kick to the face from behind. Lamas is trying to use the fence to tkae the back but couldn't get it. Bart with an armlock but can't finish and now Lamas is on top unloading punches again but Bart is blocking most of them. Legs high and Bart looks like he briefly had the armbar but Ricardo gets out. Three upkick combo from Bart and he stands up eating some big punches on the way. The round ends and it's been pretty much all Lamas but Palaszewski is showing great heart. 10-9 Lamas. Round 3 - Bart is looking to throw combos early. Leg kick from Bart now. Low blow from Lamas there on accident. High kick blocked from Bart. Three punch combo now and Bart looks determined to make SOMETHING happen here. A few more shots from Bart but Lamas with the takedown. It's just smothering from the top now from Ricardo. 10-9 for Lamas again and my card reads 30-27. Official scorecards - 30-27 Ricardo Lamas across the board. Ricardo Lamas wins by unanimous decision.
Mike Brown vs Leonard Garcia for the WEC Featherweight Championship - Round 1 -Garcia looks his usual slighly manic self and Brown with a HUGE overhand right which drops Garcia. Brown is on top smashing him and now has Garcia's back. Garcia is bleeding badly and is fighting off the choke. Back to Garcia's guard and Brown is pouring it on with elbows. Pass to full mount now and the arm triangle is sunk, Garcia taps out and Brown just dominated every second of that fight. Mike Brown wins by submission (head and arm triangle), round 1.
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Pic
I love the lead in pic. It looks like a really good rock concert poster
Yeah...
he did a lot of different ones for this show, I picked that one because it reminds me of shows I used to go to with good lineups of indy rock bands.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Buzzzzzed.
Can’t wait for tonight! Here’s the televised card.
Mike Thomas Brown (20-4) vs. Leonard Garcia (12-3)
Bart Palaszewski (30-11) vs. Ricardo Lamas (5-0)
Jose Aldo (13-1) vs. Chris Mickle (26-11-1)
Rob McCullough (16-5) vs. Marcus Hicks (8-1)
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Really looking forward to seeing Aldo fight.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
Me too, I hope he wins just to see him hop the cage and book it into the audience again. That was one of the best celebrations evah, especially since he’d just beat the hometown fighter.
Also the rumor is he’s dropping to bantamweight after this fight. Aldo vs. Torres would be silly awesome.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
great art Baudelaire!
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Much thanks.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Garcia, Palaszewski, Aldo, Hicks.
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
Same
Good picks Denver
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Mar 1, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Leonard Garcia via decision
Bart Palaszewski via TKO
Jose Aldo via TKO
Rob McCullough via decision
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
I have it the same way
Some choice parlays with Garcia.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
Undercard
I am disappointed that we are almost guaranteed that these will be the only four fights we fans see tonight. If the fights are quick, Versus will just give us more commercials. Hope the network gets its act together. I still have a hard time swallowing that I had to watch lackluster fights like Sonnen-Filho II & Rosholt v. Osterneek, while being denied a fight of the year candidate in McCullough v. Cerrone. Less commercials, more fights, 3 hour time slot.
Picks
I like Garcia here but I think he’ll finish in the 3rd
I’m taking Lamas for the upset
Aldo by something epic
McCullough by sheer will in a close battle
parlay
I put 10 bucks on a parlay of
Hendricks
Aido
McCullough
Garcia
Wins 48 bucks if anyone feels like copying it.
" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "
my parlays
A $20 bet on Garcia/McCullough/Damacio Page nets $102.57.
A $20 bet on Garcia/Palaszewski/McCollough/Page/Karalexis nets $229.52.
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
I am gettin silly with my 2nd league parlay.
$100 on Garcia, McIntyre, Galvao. I am reaching I know.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
??
Is this event live? Do I need stay away from BE until the west coast airing of the event?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Just checked the Versus site...
It’s on live in all timezones. 9PM ET / 6PM PT.
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SpikeHD should pick up the WEC fights. I hate watching in SD.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000
Hm. Didn’t know that. I guess my cable doesn’t carry it.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000
Versus splits an HD station with The Golf Channel. Look for “GolfHD,” that’s what my provider (Time Warner) lists it under.
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/\ Good info to know Chris!
Thanks!
"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy
I heard it’s not airing on TSN so that they can show the women’s curling championships live.
No, seriously.
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I'm pumped for this. WAR BROWN
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It's not playing
I’m planning to watch a stream personally.
Not many options unless I want to watch it on tape delayed.
Besides, I hope some other channel picks up the WEC, TSN clearly has purchased way too much content for itself.
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I just put money on Hicks
dumb move? Albeit not a lot of money, I take losing money very seriously.
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I know
Hicks looked brutal vs Varner but… there’s hope. Should be a nice scrap.
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Rzor Rob should beat the crap out of him, actually
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I haven't been impressed
with Razor Rob…. probably why the line is relatively close.
But all indications did say “he should’ve done better” in a lot of his fights.
Well you know who I’m rooting for.
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You did the right thing..
Hicks gon win
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
ditto that
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Hicks by guillotine!
But lets talk about riding bulls. Does anyone else have the PBR before the event?
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
That’s really not much protection. A lot of guys are wearing them now, though.
by Cannon Jacques on Mar 1, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
It's time!
World Extreme Commercialbreaks!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions
Pulver looks like he wants to sell you a refrigerator.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions
True story..
Bart Palaszewski’s mom was right behind my seat at the press table at the IFL GP show that took place in Chicago. And she may be the most obnoxious crowd member ever. Amazingly shrill “GO BAAAAAAART! COME ON BAAAAAAART!!! BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAART!!!!” for 15 straight minutes. A guy turned around and yelled “shut up bitch!” and she shot back a “HE’S MY SOOOOOOOOOON!”
ya had to be there I suppose
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions
so do you root for him
or do you hate him based on that mom experience?
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I like him..
he was extremely nice both times I worked IFL shows
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta respect that… any Mom who goes to their son’s fights and can stand it… is A-OK in my book.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
You're in charge of keeping track of # of commercial breaks...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
ROLL WITH URIJAH CONTEST
Let’s all enter as “Nick Thomas.”
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 9:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
NEEDS MOAR STEVIA
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Mar 1, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
use the rec button people
this needs to be green!
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Hicks!
Wrecking Ball Y’all!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions
Korn = Lame
Rob deserves to lose for being all 90’s lame with his entrance music
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:12 PM EST reply actions
um....
No
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
rap is a whole genre of music
Korn is one shitty band.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
lol
it’s your loss but that was a funny comeback
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
I don’t think so. You can’t beat 90’s rap.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000
agree to disagree there...
I’m not a big rap fan…but anything is better than the backyard wrestling staple entrance music that is THAT Korn song
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
rap vs. horrendous rock arguments are so 1930s.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
by plastict on Mar 1, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
go Hicks!
TEXAS!!!!!!!
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
my money is on Hicks
will I be stealing your money or vice versa? :)
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Man, I don’t even know. Let’s go to Brookhouse and the BE official scorecard…
by Cannon Jacques on Mar 1, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
10-9 Hicks
He initiated all the action and kept scoring with lefts — both overhands and shots to the body.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
MARCUS!!!!!
might have made a mistake going for the guillotine but that left TAGGED Razor Rob.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
I don't think so.
Rob was flashed. Kos was in candyland.
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000
the nut shot
didn’t help any either
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
10-9 Hicks...
on my card. Knockdown trumps a few flurries that mostly landed on Hicks’ arms. Still a much better round than the first for Rob and Hicks looks gassed
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:28 PM EST reply actions
10-9 Marcus
Razor came back strong, but Marcus knocked him down and almost submitted him.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
You didn't see the guillotine?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
10-10 first round?
That’s what I call “chickenshit scoring” (not a shout at you…just in general) 10-10 rounds should be damn near non-existent especially in a 3 round fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
the liver kick fucked hicks up in the 2nd round
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
and the nut shot
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Because it's fucking stupid...
seriously…with 90 seconds left in the fight? fuck off with that bullshit ref
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
probably bs
but why not…
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He was barely more active in the 3rd round but i had the other 2 rounds split
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
30-27 Hicks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
Hicks..
won the first round, I gave him the second on the knockdown/choke trumping flurries that generally didn’t land for Rob (great liver kick though) and the third was Hicks’ left hand vs. low kicks and I give shots to the head more credit than leg kicks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
you can't get 10-9
when your opponent drops you with a punch and has a very close submission attempt and you don’t score any knockdowns yourself.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Sure you can. After the escape, Rob completely dominated the stand up for about two minutes.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
That was brutal.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions
HICKS
Razor rob lost the first two rounds and did nothing in round 3. He had the fight in his hand but didn’t pull the trigger. Weak.
I really don’t like Razor Rob and this ices it. He is the definitive bad kickboxer who is happy to point fight for a decision.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Boring fight is boring.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
People complaining about Razor being complacent and not pulling the trigger need to watch some of his past fights. This is really nothing new.
he's a habitual point coaster
I really want to see him get beaten badly.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
i guess he fought for points bc hicks had nothing but a weak ass jab and that overhand which did score on a few occasions and wanted the rnd
Ha.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 9:37 PM EST reply actions
As opposed to...
everything McCullough did?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Uh, did you even watch the 2nd half of the 2nd round? It was total domination by Rob on the stand up.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
Flurries...
to the arms don’t beat getting dropped in my book
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Razor dominated that third round with rapid head movements and occasional leg kicks.
by ilostmydog on Mar 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dominated?
Joking right?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think dominating with rapid head movements qualifies as a joke. :)
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
People who can recognize that dominating a round with head movements is probably a joke…1 out of 4. Congratulations.
I'm glad...
but I’m not shocked by ANYTHING on this site anymore ;)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Dominated?!
I had Hicks throwing more and trying to clinch more then what Rob did in that round.
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What did Rob do
outside of the 2nd round though?
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Even the 2nd round...
was mostly just flurries to Hicks’ arms.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
and a nut shot
that’s what really took the wind out of Marcus’ sails.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Can we all just pretend that first 40 minutes didn't happen?
Woooo! I’m ready for some WEC! Jose Aldo is up first! Hey look, Jens is doing commentary!
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
I'm ready to see Jose Aldo perform a reenaction of the explosion scene from stackers on some guy.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Scanners?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
AOTS!!!
"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000
AOTS:
Annoying douche: “BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BAD PUN”
Hot girl: “BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BEWBS!”
Me: “I miss Kevin and Leo :<”
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Kevin is still there.
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A round that is scored a draw is 10-10, not 9-9.
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Garlic will make you sleep better, though.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Chocolate Milk for me…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I've got a nice cup of tea
….
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I love the dude that got all tit handy with Urijah.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions
I have $100 on Mickle (I am betting on experience)
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Do you bet on Jeremy Horn every fight?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Chris...
has unfortunate girl voice
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:48 PM EST reply actions
ooooh...
and unfortunate tattoos to top it all off.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I actually turned the channel for a second and was like, “What? Fuck you, Brent.”
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ha!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
random tattoos
with no sense of order FTL
by mythbuster on Mar 1, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tribal! Word dripping blood on the back! Snake!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
If he comes out like Razor
then yes, yes he will.
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Depends...
need to see how they both look. If he is dominating and Chris guts it out to the second round I can’t get down on him. If he struggles…yeah
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Watching him pioneer beating BJ?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Aldo
is in love with his no-hands flying knee. Gotta be careful there.
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Mickle couldn't
hang his chin out there any further.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
Damn.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
HEY GUYS, WHAT AN UNPREDICTABLE OUTCOME.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
WEAK
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
you dont even need to do a "how not to punch" on this guy
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Mar 1, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
yeah...
I’ll be skipping that one
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
If you make the gifs...
I suppose I’d HAVE to
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
save it for a slow week
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Mar 1, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
What an odd thing to scream.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
I believe you accidentally wrote “and” instead of an equal sign.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
Maybe...
stevia really is jesus’ bones ground up to powder form
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
after all..
it would explain how when you blend it with water it floats on top
WHOO!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
But seriously....
THAT guy has 44 fights? How do you fight that many times and not have the fundamentals down?
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
By fighting at Cage Rage?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
"We'd like to know, when did he know he had this thing under control?"
Around when they signed the bout agreements.
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I wanna see Jardine win via gogoplata
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Apparently. Spoil it and die.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I’ve avoided Watchmen spoilers like the plague. Except, you know, for reading the novel and all.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
+1
I’m waiting for the DVD.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I wish I could...
but I can’t wait that long to see it…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
naw...
Comic nerdom says I must see it in theatres
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
To tide me over, I’m watching the “motion comic” they just put out. It’s actually pretty cool.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
The latter. I just never got excited about the movie, not sure why.
I think the snobby comic nerd in me secretly hoped it would never be filmed because they can only ruin it.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm watching it in Tampa on Imax.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Is Watchmen out already?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Page vs Galvao who's the favorite?
Bonus fight ftw.
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Page was a slight favorite
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
The "Angel of Death"?
I remember watching a local MMA show on TV that had about 12 fights and almost 1/3 of the fighters had that nickname.
wow
Angel of Death!
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
B-E-A-S-T !!!
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Mar 1, 2009 10:10 PM EST reply actions
According to Sherdog
Galvao left on a stretcher, I guess the broadcast failed to tell us that.
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oh...geez...
hopefully he is okay. He got caught BIG with a couple punches after he was down and he was very stiff and a little twitchy when he was on the ground.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
That was an undercard fight? Yeesh, I’m out of the loop.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone else notice the lack of sponsorships for Galvao?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
The punch that dropped him...
was right on the point of the chin. That’s a lights out spot for sure.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions
Well...Palaszewski fights mean..
all my liveblogging for this fight will be done using first names.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions
Bartimus!
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
how do you get bart into an armbar?
…wave at him
by Ozone on Mar 1, 2009 10:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Go Bart.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 10:22 PM EST reply actions
This is obviously going...
to go well over it’s scheduled time.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:24 PM EST reply actions
I have a lot to say about this fight but have no idea how to put it.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
10-9 Lamas
agree?
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I think so. Not entirely sure, but okay.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
Nice combo to end the round...
by Bart. He lost the round but I like a 3 punch to the body, 1 to the head combo. It was nice.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions
?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
After two rounds? Damn.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
YOU SHUT UP AND COUNT THOSE COMMERCIAL BREAKS
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
I need Bart for my parlayyy.
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 10:34 PM EST reply actions
how was it illegal?
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Bart was keeping one knee grounded.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
That was a hell of a kick to the nuts.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Jump!
Go ahead and Jump!
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Lamas has this fight all but won.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
"If he can get this down, you just put him into comfort land. He's in the happy zone."
Jens making a strong case for commentator of the year already.
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Did that trainer just say do a "Kimura-Guillotine"?
Sounds awesome.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
No question about it.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Lamas fought a damn good fight.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
Arg
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 1, 2009 10:40 PM EST reply actions
Are we mocking mythbuster or are we calling one of the rounds a 10-10?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks a lot, Bart.
Your useless ground game just ruined my picks.
And I was gonna make this joke like “he really whipped the llama’s ass!” and we all would have laughed.
Thanks a lot.
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I want Mike Brown to lose so I can win money.
by a tommy point on Mar 1, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
It's not MMA Math..
it’s saying “Faber was undoubtedly the best guy in the weight class and he finished him…Garcia isn’t as good as Faber so logically he should be able to stop him” that is a lot different than the standard “mma math” idea…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
“But am I still relevant, Todd?”
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Brown has to win because i bet 1000 BE dollars on him!
by bigislandboi808 on Mar 1, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Allow me to un-obstruct my esophagus!
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Garcia...
with such great entrance music…hooray!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:50 PM EST reply actions
I like Garcia but the shades are totally lame
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
he should have gone with the mariachi music
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
WEST TEXAS!!!!!!
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
GOOD 90's music though...
or at least fun.
Unlike awful ass Korn
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
By the way..
I bet a small amount on Lamas tonight. Whoo! I just feel like Bart is the kind of guy who can be dominated by wrestlers still and all I knew about Lamas was “good wrestler.”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:51 PM EST reply actions
(I also lost money on Hicks)
but we don’t need to announce that
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
DC GoGo is in the house
Way to go playing the DJ Kool, Leonard Garcia
Nevermind!
Simple Man > everything
Lynyrd Skynyrd > everything
And that isn’t me being all “ironic” and “play freebird” that’s just truth
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
rec'd
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Isaac Brock says it best:
"I know I’ve said this before; the odds of us actually playing Free Bird are…there ARE no odds. It is not going to happen. I’ll start with the first reason: we have NO idea how to play Free Bird. The second reason is: in the lovebug’s natural habitat, hearing that would just fucking kill them, wouldn’t it? You wouldn’t want that, right? He’s adorable. He is cute. Thirdly: Even if some, like, pick your deity, whoever, came down from the heavens or the hills or wherever your deity lives, and just blessed us with this vast knowledge of Free Bird and things, and we could play it backwards, sing backwards, we could do all that crazy shit, we still just wouldn’t do it. If this were the Make-a-Wish Foundation and you were gonna die in 20 minutes, just long enough to play Free Bird, we still wouldn’t play it. And here’s the end reason, the end reason is that life is just too fucking short to play or hear Free Bird. "
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
My funeral..
will have Skynyrd playing the entire time. Southern Rock owns…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brown is a short Featherweight
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
He's the perfect height
same height as Faber.
Garcia is tall for a featherweight rather.
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lol
For a small guy Brown sure has some long ass arms.
by bigislandboi808 on Mar 1, 2009 10:55 PM EST reply actions
The audience loves Garcia
"My job is a decision-making job, and as a result, I make a lot of decisions." --George W. Bush, The Decider, Lancaster, Pa., Oct. 3, 2007
Mike Brown is a bad man.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
COT DAMN. You can say that again.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed.
That was a beating.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
Garcia just got....thrashed.
I’m thinking Brown may be FW champ for a while
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Rec'd
I’m not even eating or drinking anything and I about choked when I read that.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
lol word!
The Junkies, Big O & Dukes, Mike O'Meara, MMA Nation. What the hell are you listening to? http://www.wjfk.com/
by 106.7 WJFK FM Listener on Mar 1, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions
I've got Brown
in Faber vs Brown II
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I couldn’t believe he wasn’t out after that shot.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
I like Brown over Faber now.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Yay i just won 1000 BE dollars now. :) i am happy.
by bigislandboi808 on Mar 1, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions
oh oh oh! WOW! DAMN!
I thought Brown would win but thought it would be a few rounds of him grinding Garcia down. But nope…that was a beating. Garcia survived on heart for a while but Brown wasn’t stopping until Garcia tapped or went to sleep.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions
I think he was punching until he went to sleep and then tapping unconsciously. Tough bastard either way.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
Skynyrd = wyn
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Garcia...
I like the way he tapped once, decided “no, not yet” threw a punch to Brown’s body and then went ahead and tap.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:03 PM EST reply actions
I was confused by this as well. I thought he was tapping then was like “no he’s fine I guess” then he hit him and then he tapped in the same motion he punched prior. I like Garcia and hope he comes back into the picture.
Everybody fightin' bout a spoonful...
Little-known fact
Fighters are actually known to use morse code in situations such as this to communicate during a submission attempt, with slaps for dashes and punches for dots. In this case, he was saying ** – - or “D-O,” the sound of someone trying to say “doh” while being put to sleep mid-thought.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~djg11/howcomputerswork/morse20code20alphabet.jpg
by LBo on Mar 2, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
not that it bears correcting
but i think the the formatting messed that up— dash dot dot dash dash dash dash
by LBo on Mar 2, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
"Dang it."
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
That was endearing.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Aww...
Mike is so cute. Getting upset that he said “fuck” and busting out the “dang it!”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Is Full Tilt sponsoring all these fighters?
by bigislandboi808 on Mar 1, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions
Brown's a nice guy
other than the cursing.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
easy homie… its gonna be a good fight but dont expect Faber to be as dumb this time. im still gonna have to say Faber bc hes GOT to be fired up
by beersnbroads on Mar 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Faber
did get fired up when Brown threw him to the ground. We saw that end result already.
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ive got too much faith in him man… dont hate jus cuz hes more famous, rewatch his KOTC fights
by beersnbroads on Mar 1, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I hope he is not as dumb. I still think Brown is too much.
by Cannon Jacques on Mar 1, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions
Is someone...
going through and deleting my comments? I’ve just have 4 of mine disappear. Moderators here suck! Go to hell!
but seriously…I had a bunch of comments disappear.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions
Not me, bumblebee.
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by Chris Nelson on Mar 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh nevermind...
I had 2 windows with the same page open and it acts all screwy. Refresh and they’re back. I still say the staff here sucks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Especially that Brent guy.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Goodnight y'all.
Pleasure spending the fights with ya. Let’s do it again next week yeh?
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I think he "earned it"
by beating Pulver
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
I think...
Fabiano needs one more “TV win” to get the name recognition. Let him fight and win and then get the winner of Faber/Brown II in what would be a huge fight. You’d have 3 massive FW title fights in a row
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I still think he won the fight...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Really? I thought Razor won rounds two and three.
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Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
I could see it being both ways
I had it Hicks because at least he was trying to engage in the clinch.
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LOL
How? How did he win?
He was crushed in Round 2… landed some alright shots in 3, but McCullough landed some as well… overall, I think Round 3 was McCullough due to the fact he was actually trying to engage, and Hicks was just backing up. Overall aggression counts for something.
Round 1 and 3 were tough to call. I think McCullough won 2 and 3 tho
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
Trying to engage
I saw Rob avoiding him mostly… Hicks did go for clinch/takedown attempts even if they were awful.
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Rob stalked him the entire round, so I fail to see how that is avoidance. He did try to kick and exchange more, but yes… he didn’t try to punch much.
And the takedown attempts were half-assed at best. Just because you go for attempt doesn’t mean it’s worth anything. Rob still landed kicks and tried to exchange.
Hicks was about worthless in the second round.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions
Round 1 – sloppy overhand lefts and a few shots to the body by Hicks were the best punches of the round.
Round 2 – Hicks wins by dropping Rob and the submission attempt. Rob threw a lot but he didn’t really land too much significant other than the nut shot and the liver kick. I said it a lot above but a knockdown trumps flurries of punches that land to the shoulders and arms.
Round 3 – Hicks landed more sloppy overhand rights while rob landed leg kicks. Shots to the head trump shots to the legs in my book.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
How are you scoring Round 2 to Hicks? That’s the exact kind of thinking that completely screws MMA judging up. Because of the knockdown, which Rob immediately got up from, and a submission attempt, it’s Hicks’ round? Why?
Hicks got rocked a couple of times, was backing away with his hands down, clearly hurt, and got clobbered for half the round.
Third round is arguable, but 2nd round to Hicks? You’re kidding me.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions
I'm really not...
He hurt Rob badly and almost finished with a choke. I think that outdoes the few shots McCullough landed and again, most of his flurrying was blocked.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
I give him points for the knock down but none for the failed choke.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
So...
submission attempts carry no weight?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
Well I kind of count that as a failure and points to the other guy for defending actually.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
That's why...
guys can’t win fights from the bottom unless they get the submission on American scorecards
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Unless you sink in a submission, I don’t see how it’s better than throwing a big punch or kick that misses.
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by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
So realistically..
every failed submission attempt is a win for the guy defending and the guy attempting gets no credit? Forcing someone to defend a submission attempt is a lot different from someone missing a punch.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
depends on what happens after the guy defends the submission
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
If a guy is sttempting sub after sub in total control then its ring generalship. If a guy defends a submission gets up and lands a wicked kick and is completely offensive for the remainder of the round its his round.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Mar 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What he said.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Mar 1, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions
and by that..
I mean the turning of “on bottom” to “bad position”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
Its because the judges miss the nuances of the grappling game, not because guys waste all their energy on futile sub attempts. It was never close to being finished
I don't think it was a futile attempt...
I think it was deep but he couldn’t get the full guard. It was a legitimate attempt to finish the fight in my book. Again, I’m fine with the fight being scored for Rob. My card gave it to Hicks but obviously my card doesn’t matter.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Does a guy earn more points for defending a punch than throwing one?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Mar 1, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
If he slips and lands one of his own then yes, definitely.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I think...
that in Pride that would be a boost to Hicks on “attempt to finish the fight” as he had the big knockdown and a submission attempt vs anything McCullough did. I like to use the “attempt to finish the fight” type thinking in scoring rounds. Damage also goes to Hicks on the knockdown. I didn’t see anything that puts Rob over him in that round.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
In PRIDE
If that was PRIDE, Rob still wins because PRIDE usually based it on damage. While the knockdown was great, flurries like Rob was pushing on Hicks counted quite well from all the PRIDE fights I watched back in those days…
The problem is that the PRIDE context is absurd due to the fact that the non fighting in the third round wouldn’t have happened. We would likely have a prominent outcome. Yellow cards would have flown.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
Its true...
it was deserving of yellow cards
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
McCullough’s few shots that landed visibly hurt Hicks to the point where he was backing up, hands down, etc.
While not all of McCullough’s shot landed, he still put the hurt on Hicks for the final half of the round, and it was obvious that Hicks was hurt from the shots. While you may be right that not many of them landed, he still landed.
He also controlled that entire part of the round while the knockdown and subsequent attempt to get up was instant. The failed choke was a good attempt, but Rob was fighting out of it the majority of the time. Depending on how a judge scores that, I still see Rob winning the round.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Rob won that round with a great kick to Hicks' liver and an end of the round flurry.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Knockdown > liver kick
that’s just the way I saw it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
And let me be clear...
I don’t think Hicks was “Screwed” I don’t think either guy went balls out trying to win that fight. Just saying…the way I scored it (and it sounds like Nate also) was for Hicks.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
If you ask me, a liver kick late in the round is worth more than a knocjdown early in the round. (as far as the judging is concerned)
I don't see how that makes sense...
every second of the fight is scored the same as every other second. 0:30 left in the round isn’t worth more than 4:49
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
To be honest, it depends on the judge.
I couldn’t begin to tell you how Cecil Peoples scores anything. For all we know, talking to fighters backstage could have weight with him.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
Cecil is a blast...
reffing or judging he is just going to do things however he has in his head at that moment.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Cecil isn’t a terrible referee, but his judging is just… I don’t get it. He’ll have one fight in which I think he did a good job, then 5 fights that are horrible. I don’t get it.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 1, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
You’ve watched enough boxing to see how fighters are able to steal a round by saving their best for the final seconds though.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
I have...
but I still don’t like it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 1, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions
[parlay wager] $500 J. Aldo M. Brown R. McCullough: win +$1,670
$500 Mike Thomas Brown: win +$500
[prediction bonuses] + $375
total: $3,545
Player Username: weoweoweo
Event Title: WEC 39
Points Awarded: *70 *
Event Rank: #86 out of 1697
http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/
Dag...
nicely done my friend…nicely done
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/
by Anton Tabuena on Mar 2, 2009 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
Bleh
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Mar 2, 2009 2:25 AM EST up reply actions
Decent win...
Why the hell did you parlay Aldo? I mean, do any of you guys know what your doing? I understand the concept you are trying, but adding someone in the parlay at -800 is a bad idea. It’s VERY little additional money in a parlay.
It would have been nice had you parlay Brown, McCullough, and ANY OTHER WINNER. Much more of a payout.
Other than that, still nicely done.
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by Leland Roling on Mar 2, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed...
on the adding a big favorite to a parlay. The Risk/Reward is very skewed. A lucky punch and you lose it all…an expected performance and you barely gain anything. But hey..the guy won so I guess it’s a case of “no harm no foul”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Mar 2, 2009 4:02 PM EST up reply actions
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