UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 17 - Jeremy Stephens vs. Joe Lauzon - Live Results and Commentary
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2009 12:47 AM EST
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As always we here at BloodyElbow have your back with the best Live Results and Commentary around for tonight's UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 17 card. Starting with the broadcast starting on Spike TV I'll be here to provide live round by round action and insight.
As with every other live thread I do ask that you adhere to the golden rule: NO UNDERCARD SPOILERS! That means no insight into any action that happened earlier and absolutely no results. Unless the broadcast ends or an undercard fight is shown on TV it is off limits. I am also adding a special one thread only rule: NO GREASING TALK! I'm not going to have this card get overshaddowed by the greasing thing and I'm not going to lose control of the comments to yet another Vaseline debate.
So make BloodyElbow your home tonight and share your thoughts on the show in the comments.
And on a side note...huge props to Baudelaire for the live thread image tonight. Awesome work my friend.
The broadcast is about to start...it's time for some fights ya'll!
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti - Up first we're gonna have a hell of an explosive scrap. Round 1 - Johnson is immediately pushing forward. Right hook glances for Luigi. High kick misses for Johnson. Luigi with a leg kick now. It's a bit of a slow fight and you can hear some scattered boos from the crowd. High kick is blocked by Fioravanti now. Two punches land in succession for Luigi now. Johnson is landing some crushing low kicks now...it's always something new in his game every time out. Every time Fioravanti engages he eats a kick right to the lead leg. Luigi shoots and Johnson stuffs it well. Knee to the body from Luigi lands directly to the cup, hard. They restart and touch gloves. Left hand lands to Johnson's face but he lands one in return. Right hand hurts Luigi badly and he drops for a second. Johnson follows up and drops him again. This time AJ pounces and pounds him out, forcing a stop in the action. Anthony Johnson wins by TKO (strikes), Round 1.
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer - Truly an interesting fight here and one that could go either way. Round 1 - High kick lands for Danzig but he eats a shot that drops him. Neer pounces and lands some hard shots but Danzig fires a solid uppercut. Now Danzig has recovered and is landing a couple punches of his own. Neer is showboating a bit more than is appropriate considering he just failed to finish a guy he hurt. Wow, Danzig lands some big shots and is moving well and Neer is hurt now and is swelling up around the eyes. Neer throwing elbows but Danzig slips. Three punch combination from Danzig now.Right hand lands for Mac now and Neer is cut. Body/head combo from Mac now and he looks to have settled down since the start of the fight. Neer is landing a little himself now. Big overhand right for Mac puts Neer on his back and Danzig jumps into his guard. Neer is looking for a triangle now and gets up. Neer combination but Danzig covers up and gets out. Neer showboating again (psst...you're losing the round bro). Very good first round comes to a close and my card has it 10-9 Danzig. Round 2 - Jab lands for Danzig. Mac shoots and ends up pulling guard. Neer is throwing huge elbows now. Neer passes to side after landing a LOT of elbows. Neer takes Mac's back but slips off and now it's Danzig on top. Triangle is locked in by Neer and Danzig is forced to tap out. Josh Neer wins by submission (triangle choke), round 2.
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic - I'm a little iffy here. I always worry when people get so high on a prospect that he is bound to crash and burn. I still say he crushes Stojnic here though. Round 1 - Jab by Denis lands and then a low kick from Cain. Stojnic is going to make this fight count as he is throwing bombs. Twice now Cain has had double underhooks and while he threw some knees to the legs he didn't get the fight to the ground. Left lands for Cain. Another takedown attempt is stuffed. Thai clinch and some big knees land for Velasquez and Denis gets away. Flurry of punches hurts Stojnic but he is hanging in there. Big body shots from the clinch by Cain now. Stojnic throws a big overhand right that misses. Cain is dominating this fight big time here. Right hand staggers Denis. Cain is pouring on the punishment and Stojnic throws a hail mary right that misses. Velasquez is grabbing a thai clinch and throwing leg kicks from it and Denis has no answer but "throw big right hand" That's a 10-8 round for Velasquez. Round 2 - Cain with more leg kicks and a nice roundhouse to the body now. Spinning backfist by Denis now misses. Takedown by Velasquez and he is in side control now. This is just unnecessary punishment now. Cain is young but Stojnic has no business in there with him. Not much to call here but a lot of punches to the face of Stojnic as they're on the ground. The fight is stopped and there is no reason for it to go on. The crowd boos but there was no reason to continue the fight. How many more unanswered punches did everyone want to see? enough to put the guy in the hospital? Cain Velasquez wins by TKO (strikes), round 2.
Matt Veach vs. Matt Grice - Undercard action! Round 1 - Veach with a nice leg kick and he is firing punches here. Grice gets taken down. Grice is able to get back to his feet here. Veach is firing punches again and falls into an anaconda choke but gets out. That seems to have made Veach realize he needs to chill a little. Big right lands for Veach. Grice with a huge uppercut and Veach is down. Grice is crushing him on the ground now. Veach tries to stand and Grice takes him back down. Full mount now for Grice but he gets sucked back into half. Guillotine attempt and now Veach is on top. Back to standing and Veach looks a bit tired. Left hook from Grice now. Uppercut, left hook both land for Grice. Oh wow! They're exchangeing and Veach lands a big shot that drops Grice. The ref stops it quickly and I think it's a terrible stoppage. If that was a stoppage than Grice should have won two minutes ago. Matt Veach wins by TKO, round 1.
Jeremy Stephens vs. Joe Lauzon - It's main event time! Round 1 - Stephens with tthe big left misses. Lauzon pulls guard and Stephens gras the shorts to prevent a submission attempt. Joe was looking for a sweep but coulnd't get it and they're standing against the fence. Lauzon drops for a leglock and doesn't get it but gets a takedown into side control. Now into the full guard. Stephens tries to crawl up using the fence but Joe pulls him back down. Big elbows from Lauzon and he now is in half guard. Now full mount and Joe grabs an armbar but Stephens gets out. Stephens is firing down now and this is a good round so far. Slam by Jeremy and Joe tries for a guillotine but Stephens is out as the round expires. Very close round but I'd go 10-9 Lauzon (no complaint if it were scored the other way. Round 2 - Low kick from Stephens and now he fires a flurry of big shots. Left lands for Joe and he gets a fireman's carry to put Stephens on his back. Lauzon passes to side now. The crowd is upset with the ground work here. North South now and then over to the other side. Elbows now from Joe and he gets full mount. Big elbows now and Stephens gives up his back. Hooks sunk in for Lauzon but Stephens turns on top and is in Lauzon's guard. Stephens puts him into the cageand is landing some elbows. Lauzon has a cut on his forehead. Lauzon is cut on his forehead. Lauzon reverses and is back on top in side control. Mount again and back to side control. Full mount again and an armbar from Joe and Stephens has to tap. Joe Lauzon wins by submission (armbar), round 2.
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HEADS UP TO EVERYONE
You fuck with Brent tonight in the comments section and you’re gone. This is your warning. We’re not bullshiting. You get lippy and you get tossed.
AND DON’T FORGET TO BUZZ!! THIS POST.
by Luke Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ditto.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
P.S. I just found out how to use the banhammer, and I got an itchy… hammer finger.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is a killer graphic. Nice job, Baudelaire.
Buzzed!
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You tell 'em, Brent!
There’s nothing as sweet as free MMA.
by ricker2005 on Feb 7, 2009 5:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
What is your definition of fuckin with Brent?
I like to fuck with Brent – I thought we had a connection as the only 2 guys on the internet that were still boxing fans first MMA fans second. (A distant second) But still second
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 5:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brent's just gonna totally make up bullshit as to whats happening on the Fight Night card
Darchinyan Arce is on and thats too good to pass up.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And just to push the limit
I heard Arce’s been loading his gloves and covering his handwraps in Vaseline :P
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm with you on that one
I want Raging Bull to absolutely SMASH the Lollipop Cowgirl
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shit...
I’ve already got the live blog done. It’s just copy and paste from here on out.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Buzz'd
What’s got the admins on Red Alert? Ban hammers a-flailin’ – warnings tossed about – Who pissed in the punch bowl?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think its just a pre-emptive strike to get all the focus and attention on the event. I’ll be bummed out too if this thread turns into a greasegate thread. Cause at the moment, I don’t have access to fight night braodcast.
by Johann on Feb 7, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m all for tossing “greasegate-gate” out the fuckin’ window.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
that’s really all it is. if they bring it up on the broadcast people are welcome to say something about what is said on the broadcast. I just don’t want every time someone goes for a submission there to be a Vaseline comment. This week has shown that pretty much any thread can quickly get turned into a “greasegate” thread if we wanted it to be or not. I just think the fights deserve our attention…
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woot.
Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
buzz'd
Anybody else hear rumors that Michael Phelps greased in Beijing too make him more slippery in the water?
by !claw on Feb 7, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s somewhat true. The special swimsuits he wore were engineered to have lower friction in the water. That, plus other technologies and design differences, is what caused so many swimming records to fall. I still say Mark Spitz, who swam with store-bought trunks, chest hair, and a porn-stache, is the superior athlete.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chest hairs and porn-stache almost have the same effect as the shark suit, just a bit less efficient.. I wonder how Phelps would compare without his gear though..
by Johann on Feb 7, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t hair increase the friction, while the sharksuit decreases it, which is why they shave their bodies nowadays?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what they thought before, shaving led to more skin contact with water, thus more friction. The shark skin works by trapping small air bubbles in its vey tiny grooves which leads to having less friction. And chest hairs and porn-staches works in almost the same way, it traps air bubbles that causes less friction with water.
by Johann on Feb 7, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Learn something new every day.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As a side note
Anyone that has a problem with Michael Phelps smoking weed should be sterilized.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Swimmers shouldn’t smoke pot – they’d get the giggles and drown…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But subo, what of the children?
THINK OF THE CHILDREN SUBO!!!
by Tonley on Feb 7, 2009 6:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Word...
If you’re going to sell me on how unhealthy pot is…pictures of one of the healthiest motherfuckers on this planet smoking are going to totally kill your argument.
And I guarantee that is part of why everyone is so upset about it. Because it isn’t some douchebag on his couch eating chips and being lazy. It’s the guy everyone was so happy to have be “Mr. America” a few months back.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd.
(he said, on his couch, eating chips.)
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...
I’ve already got a pizza on order. I’m no Michael Phelps
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Papa Johns
FTW
But if I was back on the West Coast right now it would definitely be Strikeforce sponsor Round Table Pizza
Shameless plug for my favorite chain restaurant in the universe
(lol at this old Sacramento photo when I photobucketed Round Table) :topical:
mmmmm Round Table
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Chicago...
We don’t have too many places for “good” pizza in southwest MI but in Chicago you couldn’t throw a rock without getting a good slice. (eff that NY garbage…Chicago pizza FTW)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brooklyn pizza has been soul-crushingly disappointing.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grimaldi's is supposed to be right there
at the Brooklyn Bridge, so i’m guessing you’ve been there
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I used to work just a couple blocks away in DUMBO, we would get Grimaldi’s for folks’ birthdays. Definitely the best pizza I’ve had in NYC. It’s rare to go to see that place without a line going out the door.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lombardi's is the same way
I stop by there every time i’m in the city, (which isn’t often). John’s on 44th is supposed to be worth going to just for the atmosphere and the pizza is supposed to be great too. Of course every NY’er will say their borough has the best slice. At Lombardi’s make sure you get meatballs on that badboy.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've actually used the services of both those businesses in that pic
lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fact:
The most prominent reason why pot is illegal it was associated with blacks and Mexicans in the early 20th C, and respectable Americans would never associate themselves with such crassness.
Interestingly, alcohol and tobacco are near-useless for inducing altered states of consciousness. You’d need to smoke a cigar several feet long to enter a trance (Aztecs did it).
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
tobacco companies pumped large amounts of money into government lobbying to make sure it stayed illegal too. If pot was everywhere… How many people would stop smoking cigarettes. For the life of me I really don’t get as addicted to tobacco as I do to the oral fixation of lifting a cigarette or a joint up to lips.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's a money issue
now. The only way the government will likely legalize it if there is some way for them to tax it.
Granted the government loses money on incarcerating people for possession but yeah unless you can figure a way to put more money in their pockets, it’s not going to happen.
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The US economy is suffering.
People use pot as relief from suffering.
The gov’t can legalize and tax pot to help boost the economy.
PROFIT!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wish it was that easy
Pretty hard to tax a dealer, it’s likely going to be more of a slow process. Hopefully medical marijuana is more widely accepted and for now that would be a pay for the government to profit….
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/dea-led-by-bush-continues-pot-raids/?comment_page=1
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
William Randolph Hearst.
The 1937 Marihuana Tax Act was primarily designed to make hemp illegal, paving the way for paper to be made largely by wood pulp (via a machine and process recently invented by people with political pull and a whole shit-ton of lumber to pulverize).
Weed was an innocent bystander/convenient scapegoat. But I digress.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You know Brent...
He does eat like 15 thousand calories a day… performance enhancing??? you tell me ;)
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I recc'ed you on that
That 24 year old kid eats, sleeps, swims, shits, swims, eats, swims, shits, sleeps, day-in and day-out 360 days a year for 4 years all leading up to 1 week so a bunch of fat-fuck 40 year old losers that will never accomplish shit in their miserable little lives can live vicariously through him and feel patriotic. He works that hard to bring a little joy into their worthless little lives and then they get to self-righteously question his judgement and personal life because he had the poor judgement, not to smoke weed (you can’t prove he even did because the bong isn’t full), but to do something people might find questionable with fuckin douchebags that would take a photo and sell it to a tabloid.
WAR Phelps – If he doesn’t wanna come back in London he’s accomplished more by the time he was 24 than anybody that ever questions him could ever hope to accomplish.
I mean that really pisses me off.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think thats the second time
the other time I didn’t tell you.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And BJ needs better training partners. Snap.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon, Mandalonez is world class.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 7, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I KNOW YOU DIDN’T JUST SAY THAT ABOUT JUSTIN MCCULLY.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot the sarcasm tag, BJ has a lot to learn about top level training. Mandolonez, McCully and Hawaiinburgers are gonna cut it.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that is a dual diagnosis…
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sterilized isn't as bad of a word
Maybe, castrated will get people’s attention
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have a hard time imagining
a ninja doing that. Ninjas don’t need to steal peaches…from the front.
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Monkey Steals Peach"
“.. ripping away the genitals. Massive blood loss causes death.”
For a better image/read click here.
HT: FL
by Johann on Feb 7, 2009 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He actually had vaseline in that bong
But he was trying to keep that on the DL
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey I know everybody here is an MMA fan and there are a precious few of us that are Boxing fans
But to any MMA fan that wants to see what is GUARANTEED to be a dynamite fight. (In boxing there are fights you can actually do that for.)
Showtime for the Darchinyan vs Arce fight. Its little guys but they both are completely offensive minded, hit like a truck, and like to win by attrition. Oh – And there is several years of bad blood brewing.
So if nothing else DVR the Showtime fights tonight you won’t be dissappointed.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
^ what he said.
I obviously want you all hanging out here and watching MMA. But the Darchinyan/Arce fight is going to be a barnburner.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've been waiting for this fight for about 2 years now.
Going back to the fight before Darchinyan’s pounding of poor Victor Burgos… One of my sadder moments in boxing was yelling at my tv for the dumbass ref or Burgos’ POS corner to jump in and stop the fight. Even Vic didn’t wanna hit him anymore.
For the record I guess Burgos is alright now – I still haven’t seen an update on him beyond a month after that fight.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alright.
You guys just convinced me to re-order Showtime.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good choice
I love Showtimes fights
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This also related to another topic
especially with MMA going to be on there…
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Showtime is the second best value on TV
after HDnet. Maybe even close to even with it. But not quite.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Killing time...
I’m watching the movie Felon waiting for the show and I’ve gotta say it’s pretty damn good.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't...
understand why all the bad reviews fell back on acting like it’s a “typical prison movie” as at the very least the acting and characters took it to a higher level. And the plot is actually really tight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. Fatty Kilmer did a helluva job with that role.
by Beer Monster on Feb 7, 2009 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only part of that movie I liked was Malkovich. The lady from Fargo should not be so unsure of herself.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked it...
it wasn’t great but it was a hoot…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s in my Top 5 for the year – a comedy about nihilism! Totally kick-ass!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yah Pitt made the movie for me
He cracked me up as the airhead personal trainer. I know that dude so it made it funnier. (not Pitt – the airhead personal trainer)
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the cast was great, but it lacked a real payoff. It was like one long setup for the pithy punchline at the end. (Though J.K. Simmons was definitely the right choice to deliver it. Love that guy.)
Also: Clooney’s “device” in the basement.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was the punchline – there was no payoff. Movie-watching is experiencing the characters’ lives voyeuristically (sp?). However, they’re too polite to point out this fact – that nothing on screen really matters. Films that implicate the viewer as voyeur and the shallowness of the process never do well (Peeping Tom, Natural Born Killers, Man Bites Dog). Burn After Reading did it in a more intellectual manner, instead of a visceral one. Also, people associate spies with clandestine agencies running everything, and it subverted that expectation by making them all incompetent, which is an unsettling proposition. If no one is running the world, what does it matter?
I laughed the whole damn time, too.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If...
Man Bites Dog had a face…I would punch it. Don’t ask me why but I HATE that fucking movie with an intense passion.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking you were talking about Wag The Dog for a minute
I was gonna say… The movie isn’t THAT bad. Never saw Man Bites Dog though
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man Bites Dog
http://www.criterion.com/films/718
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It had TONS of potential, but it wasted a lot of it. Had it played the premise straight instead of slapstick, it would have been phenomenal.
The director of MBD did kill himself, if you feel better.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
now I just feel like a prick
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This view is actually pretty close
to the way the CIA was run under George Tenet and his predecessor John Deutch according to the book i’m reading by the CIA’s chief field officer in Afghanistan.
Jawbreaker is the book
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m watching last night’s Inside MMA. Here’s Bas’ face as Kenny Rice announced that HDNet would broadcast Sengoku:
That just about says it.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bas looks like he's been getting that good
Michael Phelps weed
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha, I just expanded my weed vocabulary
“Man come on over, the fights are on and I got that Michael Phelps!”
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Is Bas hangin’ with Joe Pesci?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am very surprised
The first UFC Unleashed on Spike has shown both Andrei Arlovski and Paul Buentello. You’d think such an evil company would burn any footage that showed fighters they don’t have anymore in positive ways… weird.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 7:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's just petty
I think it’s hard to devalue Andrei Arlovski’s and editing him out an entire show seems like a waste of time.
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 7:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The show is nothing but editing – they pick what fights to show. To give them airtime despite going separate ways is nothing if not magnanimous – especially when they could run a crawl that says ‘this guy just got KTFO by Fedor Emelianenko in the first round.’
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m enjoying that they’re showing older fights – so many of the recent Unleashed episodes have been fights I’ve already seen. I’ve been a fan long enough for my first fights to be today’s reruns. Memories…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it only adds more to their viewers. With DOR leaving fans wanting to see more of their fighters, and UFC being the one with more shows, where would they go to see more of them?
by Johann on Feb 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd much rather
have the UFC work on more important things.
Besides, according to the numbers, not that many people watched DoR. And how many people are going to watch unleashed? How many people are going to put 2+2 together if they didn’t already know that fact?
Counter-programming takes much less effort and probably hurts Affliction more directly.
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My thought was along those lines. I think they want him back more than they’re in the process of getting him back, but Dana’s never said a bad word about Andrei.
by Beer Monster on Feb 7, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless Arlovski is just a complete washout as a boxer, I wouldn’t expect him to come back to Zuffa anytime soon.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana’s said he’s the only fighter he regrets losing.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They want both guys back
Buentello is a quality mid range HW and Andrei is still top 3-5 in the world at HW. Why not use their footage to fill time. Burying him on their undercard and keeping him on the shelf didn’t erase Andrei this won’t do anything either way.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The conversations in BE’s live results thread before the shows start are like free jazz.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Performed by people stoned out of their gourds?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pot, Pizza, and Pre-UFC.com
fight discussion
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Throw out...
Pot, Movies, Food, or Alcohol and the comments get flowing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you've ever wanted to feel humiliated, play a FPS on a "Competitive Server"
You will die more than a red shirt in star trek.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's why I avoid playing online
Which game?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
CS:S
And then I always play TF2, but I can hold my own in that.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love TF2, but the servers were too chaotic for me to enjoy. I’m an enormous introvert, and even virtual people make me feel crowded. CS:S is waaaay too competitive for me – considering it’s the standard FPS for team tourneys internationally, the players are so intense. I like cranking UT up to Godlike.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I luv me some TF2, I just hit up the clan serversand soldier/scout it up.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the reason I liked CS
its the only game that people actually play as a team
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked 1.6 better
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a great game, I just don’t enjoying that style of play.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cool - I liked it cause there was so much variety in how you culd have your fun
Lower gravity to 0
Then raise it to 1000 and kill everybody :P
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you ever play on texas teamplayers?
by Dropkick434 on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ufc Fantasy
Any of you play UFC Fantasy? If so are you on a league?
by Wookalarman on Feb 7, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Also, a word of warning:
If a friend ever comes to your house with a bootleg movie called “Tokyo Gore Police”, DON’T WATCH IT. Just trust me.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Your statement
makes me want to see why…..
by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You will never feel anything again.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a good movie...
Anything like that one japanese prison movie? Ya know, where the guy smashes some other guys head with his bare hands?
I’m going to buy TGP now, thanks to youl.
by IHateMMA on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the people who made machine girl.
Its like machine girl, but with 10000000000x more blood and gore.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Super Mourning Squad UNITE!!!
Best line from Machinegirl
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, but his makes Machine Girl look like the care bears movie.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those kind of movies just bore me – Oh look, it’s more excessive violence! I would have never guessed!
However, the Drill Bra was awesome
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, sorry, I pressed enter.
Riki-oh is great. I just watched the trailer for TGP, it’s a BUY.
by IHateMMA on Feb 7, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you also enjoy snuff films? :P
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you seen a real one?
Its very difficult to enjoy – especially as I had no idea what the dude did to deserve it. If he had it coming it would have been much easier to stomach. The gurgling is especially unappetizing
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I...have not.
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by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don't make a point of it to watch one
seeing a dude beaten with a hammer is a haunting image. Curiosity got me to watch one posted in another place once. It was like a russian mob killing as best I can guess. Makes you really wanna fuck up the scrawny douches doing it. Then again maybe the guy had it coming. Death by hammer is really not how I wanna go now though. I learned that
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Little harder to laugh at the Team America scene
where he gives Gary the hammer to kill himself with if he’s captured
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember that was floating around Sherdog for a while – fucked-up stuff
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a difference between a snuff film and seeing footage of people being executed?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Draw it out into a torture session
thats more of the one I saw. It was not like somebody just being shot or even beheaded
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I study the psychology of brainwashing & torture (perverse fascination) and in the film Taxi to the Dark Side, they describe in detail the tortures that killed people in Abu Ghraib, Basra, and Gitmo. Political alignment aside, I think everyone can agree it’s horribly fucked. Just read KUBARK or watch someone get waterboarded. Humanity FTL!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
‘The Dark Side’ by Jane Mayer is a great dissection of just how fucked up things got during the last eight years.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't consider waterboarding torture
cause i’ve been an assistant around during SERE school for the army. We do worse shit to our own guys that interrogators do to enemy…
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I was trying to go through group
I got some punishments to make us quit that would be called inhumane if we did them to enemy detainees
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
SERE was the basis of the programs designed by the CIA to break these guys – sleep deprivation mostly (which leads to hallucinations more than confessions). Read ‘The Dark Side’.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol except i've watched our guys get dunked
in friggin ice water with chicks out there to berate them for how small their dick is – over and over and over again
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in like 25 degree weather
and I didn’t even get to witness the really fucked up mental things they put em through
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is just the shit that’s been leaked. One can only imagine what went on behind closed doors.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know a little
but even my really good buddy didn’t wanna talk about it much
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actualy, the CIA’s research into psychological torture was Project MKULTRA. The research outsourced to Canada is horrid. They were headed by a psychologist attempting to cure schizophrenia by rewiring the brain.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s Martin Seligman’s experiments. MKULTRA dealt more with sensory deprevation, drugs, sleep deprivation. It’s similar to the stuff used for transcendental meditation, or stuff like the film Altered States – but much less moral.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine the majority of practitioners on the ground level weren’t so in tune to the history of the subject.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The idea of higher mental plains is as old as humans. The CIA just found a way to use it for less-than-ideal purposes.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I don’t get about SERE – why do we prepare our soldiers for this when no one else is likely to do it?
How come you don’t consider waterboarding torture?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its an exercise to prepare your mind for captivity so you don't break
and to teach you how to lie to save your own life if you’re caught by terrorists. Or at least how to prepare to try to save your own life instead of getting beheaded
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The worst thing thats going to happen from waterboarding
is that you get smothered and pass out. And then they wake you up
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, death threats are technically torture. Simulated drowning isn’t?
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Different strokes for different folks
every time we fucked up we got physically trained in a pit filled with stagnant water, vomit, piss and god only knows how many trillions of bacteria. We had 45 guys in the class before us med drop and like 75% of them were from MRSA
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See, as a civilian, I gotta ask, how much of that is actual training and how much is meathead bullshit?
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You'd never get treated like that in the regular military
in the old days you might get your ass kicked if you kept fuckin up… But as for today that was just a small unit method of weeding out people that would quit or give up
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we interrogated foreigners the way they did us in SF baby school
The media would shit a brick lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Like I went through in the summer when the pit was nastiest
and the top of water would be yellow streaked with red… But in the winter you got to hop in and break ice lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys..
are totally freaking me out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have no problem with the discussion...
it’s just creeping me out. Snuff films…mind control…etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you know that the CIA’s interrogation manual is available for purchase?
Of course, it’s also public domain, so you don’t really need to pay for it.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does it even give useful results? Pro interrogators say befriending the prisoners is the only way to get reliable info, and too much torture breaks them mentally and they say anything, true or false, to make it stop.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh definately
I believe if you cross the real torture line people will say anything ANYTHING at all to make it stop. But you aren’t gonna befriend a religious fanatic that is willing to kill himself just to kill you or anybody you know
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
very fine line
like waterboarding would be more like a punishment to scare them because I’m damn sure it sucks. Just like spending hours in the gig pit sucked. And then getting out and getting a green srubby and putting bleach on it to scrub your cuts so you didn’t get infected
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
made you wanna be nice and friendly
If you use extreme measures as a first resort you aren’t going to get anywhere. But i’m no interrogator so I could be wrong – i’m just talking from what I think common sense would tell a person.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Befriending” isn’t quite the right world, but the pros say that you need to make the prisoner realize that the questioner is the only lifeline, and if they cooperate with the questioner, they can receive small perks, or protection for their family (whether true or false is moot). Reportedly, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed became close with his questioners.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They also reportedly waterboarded him
3 times lol
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I remember his guards were impressed that he lasted 2+min. I guess you do the “Alice in Winderland” just enough to have them lose hope, then offer tit-for-tat help. Ultimate Good Cop, Bad Cop routine.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think
that you are correct sir.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder...
Is it really a good thing for the average populace to know torture techniques?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its better they know them
Than EOD techniques :D Like knowing how to counteract bomb squad techniques
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else watch 30 Rock?
Or just me and middle aged women?
’Cause Baldwin KILLS.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just you an 30 year old women.
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by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah word, I had a hunch. Being unemployed is awesome.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s my next streaming pick from Netflix, once I’m done with The Office and a bunch of Doctor Who (4th Doctor FTW!)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Office on BBC is vastly superior. Ricky Gervais FTMFW.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Too short of a run though...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I could give two shits – dynamite comes in small packages. I love Steve Carell, but he just can’t hold a candle to Ricky.
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was awesome..
I just like the US version a little better. It is hitting a “too long of a run” point now though as stuff is starting to feel very forced.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think the same
but the US version was murdering the original for a minute, until it started falling off this season.
Gervais > Carrell
but
Dwight Schrute > Gareth Keenan
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FACT:
he is faster than 80% of all snakes
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
" I don’t have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once, but by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor’s dog. "
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
“Security in this office park is a joke. Last year I came to work with my spud-gun in a duffle bag. I sat at my desk all day with a rifle that shoots potatoes at 60 pounds per square inch. Can you imagine if I was deranged?”
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His superbowl commercial kicked ass too
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And hulu rocks.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Never used it but the commercial actually made me curious - did its job well
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hulu
needs to be more of an international thing. Can’t use a lot of the great things the internet has offered…
Advertisers only care about the American audience unfortunately… speaking from experience anyway.
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by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more of an Office
fan. Other then the awards 30 rock has gotten, is it any good? Need more of a personal opinion I guess.
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by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I’m with you on The Office. My favorite show personally.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorites in the last couple years..
1. Arrested Development
2. The Office
3. 30 Rock
4. Flight Of The Conchords
(I’m just talking domestic – don’t get me started on The IT Crowd, Snuff Box, Summer Heights High / We Can Be Heroes, etc.)
and achengy – 30 Rock is closer in tone to Arrested Development than The Office. I have to say I’ve really come to appreciate Tina Fey as a writer since I started watching it – she’s wittier and hipper than most sitcom writers these days and has a very distinct tone. Alec Baldwin and Tracy Morgan… yeah, I could go on, but the fights are almost starting. Needless to say I throw a hearty personal rec behind it.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
30 Rock is incredible
Youre best to start watching from the start to get to know the characters.
by Evil-Uncle on Feb 7, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of want to see the Veach and Grice fight
according to the write up, it sounds pretty good.
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by achengy on Feb 7, 2009 8:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Gleison Tibau Vs. Rich Clementi, Steve Bruno Vs. Matt Riddle, Dan Miller Vs. Jake Rosholt and Kurt Pellegrino Vs. Rob Emerson. =)
by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to narrow your choices down.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, they’re selling the shit out of these ‘Ultimate Comeback’ DVD’s
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 8:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh, shit. Nick is back to his old tricks.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
BLING
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
by SC on Feb 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!
FIGHT TIME!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Need something nicer than discussing the finer parts of torture?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...I think I'm ready for that
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I always find it funny when I read about how awful certain practices are, only to see them in BDSM porn (a friend is a research psychologist in the field, so I get to hear all about it)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
boooooo!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GO STOLNIC/
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Mine is J. Neer, L. Fioravanti, S. Bruno
by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mine is Tibau and Neer.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then we can both win
And I have Neer too – but Luigi’s going down in a heap
by subo on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Since we’re now doing mmaplayground that has a lot of fancy betting, the local gambling gurus should do special posts regarding what fancy words like “parlay” mean.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s something alright…
Does anyone know which UFC DVD has the full version of the TUF theme? I forget the band name, one of the ridiculous Zuffa bands. I’m fiending to hear that right now.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffb3yo3oN1E
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks homie!
And Stemm is the band.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, wtf Cain only weighed in at 239?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cain...
is up in the first fight they said right? I walked out of the room for a minute
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rumble-Luigi
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sweet...thanks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Luigi Fioravanti vs Anthony Johnson is 1st
by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a good thing I have spike HD, otherwise I would have to wait 3 hours to watch it.
by IHateMMA on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Btw everybody, apparently Ben Askren’s debut is going to be streamed live on this site.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Awesome, thanks.
(Rec’d so this will turn green and people will watch.)
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This just started up. It’s a webcam but it’s better than nothing. Askren is definitely one to watch.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Along with Din Thomas’s debut at 145 and BJJ blackbelt Kiko France. Good stuff.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WAR DARCHINYAN
You’re hard to understand… But at least I understand “I going to knock him out”
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Arce just said everybody will remember this fight
it will be the most historic fight of my career
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL Arce just said
MMA/Boxing/math doesn’t work
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Crap, thanks for reminding me. I called the cable company and ordered Showtime, then forgot to record the fight.
No spoilers plz!
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...
I’m watching that fight when this show ends. So a lack of spoilers would make me happy.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OK OK
No spoilers – but if you see me like OMG OMG OMG Its because the fight is off the chain… I won’t give details though
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is fine..
I’m sure SC from BLH will be doing the same thing to me via IM
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Demarco vs Raiymkulov is first
I don’t even know these guys.
Oh ok Raiymkulov is Kid Diamond
Even without knowing them… its on Showtime it will be a good fight
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
damn that street fighter 4 game looks sweet
by Discman2 on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah it’s tempting…. though I’d want an oldschool controller for it… like in the arcade. like the ball stick and 6 buttons.
by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you can buy those for consoles. They are like $50
by Discman2 on Feb 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus...
that is some of the worst mouth to word synchronization that I’ve seen in the last 5 years (on the SF4 commercial)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
HA!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Timesplitters-ish in that regard.
Hopefully it can be nearly as good as the Timesplitters series.
by Slica on Feb 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TS is one of the most fun FPS I’ve ever played. Time to split!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its my favorite FPS ever.
I will never ever tire of playing virus on TS2 or TS3. : )
Its too bad the company is done and shopping the series…hopefully it doesnt get ruined. I personally enjoy it more than Halo.
by Slica on Feb 7, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TS Collection...
sitting on my shelf right now. Glad to hear it get some love.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check out this concept art for TS4. I hope it gets made.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the one with Zombie Jonah? lol
Thats ingenious.
by Slica on Feb 7, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for not ripping me for being offtopic. : )
Timesplitters is incredibly underrated and I try to get it a rub when I can.
by Slica on Feb 7, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on Halo being overrated – poor weapon balance, and tried too hard to be cool. Very unimaginative.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 7, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a buddy that looked just like
Smiling Bob
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs