UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 17 - Jeremy Stephens vs. Joe Lauzon - Live Results and Commentary
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2009 12:47 AM EST
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As always we here at BloodyElbow have your back with the best Live Results and Commentary around for tonight's UFC: Ultimate Fight Night 17 card. Starting with the broadcast starting on Spike TV I'll be here to provide live round by round action and insight.
As with every other live thread I do ask that you adhere to the golden rule: NO UNDERCARD SPOILERS! That means no insight into any action that happened earlier and absolutely no results. Unless the broadcast ends or an undercard fight is shown on TV it is off limits. I am also adding a special one thread only rule: NO GREASING TALK! I'm not going to have this card get overshaddowed by the greasing thing and I'm not going to lose control of the comments to yet another Vaseline debate.
So make BloodyElbow your home tonight and share your thoughts on the show in the comments.
And on a side note...huge props to Baudelaire for the live thread image tonight. Awesome work my friend.
The broadcast is about to start...it's time for some fights ya'll!
Anthony Johnson vs. Luigi Fioravanti - Up first we're gonna have a hell of an explosive scrap. Round 1 - Johnson is immediately pushing forward. Right hook glances for Luigi. High kick misses for Johnson. Luigi with a leg kick now. It's a bit of a slow fight and you can hear some scattered boos from the crowd. High kick is blocked by Fioravanti now. Two punches land in succession for Luigi now. Johnson is landing some crushing low kicks now...it's always something new in his game every time out. Every time Fioravanti engages he eats a kick right to the lead leg. Luigi shoots and Johnson stuffs it well. Knee to the body from Luigi lands directly to the cup, hard. They restart and touch gloves. Left hand lands to Johnson's face but he lands one in return. Right hand hurts Luigi badly and he drops for a second. Johnson follows up and drops him again. This time AJ pounces and pounds him out, forcing a stop in the action. Anthony Johnson wins by TKO (strikes), Round 1.
Mac Danzig vs. Josh Neer - Truly an interesting fight here and one that could go either way. Round 1 - High kick lands for Danzig but he eats a shot that drops him. Neer pounces and lands some hard shots but Danzig fires a solid uppercut. Now Danzig has recovered and is landing a couple punches of his own. Neer is showboating a bit more than is appropriate considering he just failed to finish a guy he hurt. Wow, Danzig lands some big shots and is moving well and Neer is hurt now and is swelling up around the eyes. Neer throwing elbows but Danzig slips. Three punch combination from Danzig now.Right hand lands for Mac now and Neer is cut. Body/head combo from Mac now and he looks to have settled down since the start of the fight. Neer is landing a little himself now. Big overhand right for Mac puts Neer on his back and Danzig jumps into his guard. Neer is looking for a triangle now and gets up. Neer combination but Danzig covers up and gets out. Neer showboating again (psst...you're losing the round bro). Very good first round comes to a close and my card has it 10-9 Danzig. Round 2 - Jab lands for Danzig. Mac shoots and ends up pulling guard. Neer is throwing huge elbows now. Neer passes to side after landing a LOT of elbows. Neer takes Mac's back but slips off and now it's Danzig on top. Triangle is locked in by Neer and Danzig is forced to tap out. Josh Neer wins by submission (triangle choke), round 2.
Cain Velasquez vs. Denis Stojnic - I'm a little iffy here. I always worry when people get so high on a prospect that he is bound to crash and burn. I still say he crushes Stojnic here though. Round 1 - Jab by Denis lands and then a low kick from Cain. Stojnic is going to make this fight count as he is throwing bombs. Twice now Cain has had double underhooks and while he threw some knees to the legs he didn't get the fight to the ground. Left lands for Cain. Another takedown attempt is stuffed. Thai clinch and some big knees land for Velasquez and Denis gets away. Flurry of punches hurts Stojnic but he is hanging in there. Big body shots from the clinch by Cain now. Stojnic throws a big overhand right that misses. Cain is dominating this fight big time here. Right hand staggers Denis. Cain is pouring on the punishment and Stojnic throws a hail mary right that misses. Velasquez is grabbing a thai clinch and throwing leg kicks from it and Denis has no answer but "throw big right hand" That's a 10-8 round for Velasquez. Round 2 - Cain with more leg kicks and a nice roundhouse to the body now. Spinning backfist by Denis now misses. Takedown by Velasquez and he is in side control now. This is just unnecessary punishment now. Cain is young but Stojnic has no business in there with him. Not much to call here but a lot of punches to the face of Stojnic as they're on the ground. The fight is stopped and there is no reason for it to go on. The crowd boos but there was no reason to continue the fight. How many more unanswered punches did everyone want to see? enough to put the guy in the hospital? Cain Velasquez wins by TKO (strikes), round 2.
Matt Veach vs. Matt Grice - Undercard action! Round 1 - Veach with a nice leg kick and he is firing punches here. Grice gets taken down. Grice is able to get back to his feet here. Veach is firing punches again and falls into an anaconda choke but gets out. That seems to have made Veach realize he needs to chill a little. Big right lands for Veach. Grice with a huge uppercut and Veach is down. Grice is crushing him on the ground now. Veach tries to stand and Grice takes him back down. Full mount now for Grice but he gets sucked back into half. Guillotine attempt and now Veach is on top. Back to standing and Veach looks a bit tired. Left hook from Grice now. Uppercut, left hook both land for Grice. Oh wow! They're exchangeing and Veach lands a big shot that drops Grice. The ref stops it quickly and I think it's a terrible stoppage. If that was a stoppage than Grice should have won two minutes ago. Matt Veach wins by TKO, round 1.
Jeremy Stephens vs. Joe Lauzon - It's main event time! Round 1 - Stephens with tthe big left misses. Lauzon pulls guard and Stephens gras the shorts to prevent a submission attempt. Joe was looking for a sweep but coulnd't get it and they're standing against the fence. Lauzon drops for a leglock and doesn't get it but gets a takedown into side control. Now into the full guard. Stephens tries to crawl up using the fence but Joe pulls him back down. Big elbows from Lauzon and he now is in half guard. Now full mount and Joe grabs an armbar but Stephens gets out. Stephens is firing down now and this is a good round so far. Slam by Jeremy and Joe tries for a guillotine but Stephens is out as the round expires. Very close round but I'd go 10-9 Lauzon (no complaint if it were scored the other way. Round 2 - Low kick from Stephens and now he fires a flurry of big shots. Left lands for Joe and he gets a fireman's carry to put Stephens on his back. Lauzon passes to side now. The crowd is upset with the ground work here. North South now and then over to the other side. Elbows now from Joe and he gets full mount. Big elbows now and Stephens gives up his back. Hooks sunk in for Lauzon but Stephens turns on top and is in Lauzon's guard. Stephens puts him into the cageand is landing some elbows. Lauzon has a cut on his forehead. Lauzon is cut on his forehead. Lauzon reverses and is back on top in side control. Mount again and back to side control. Full mount again and an armbar from Joe and Stephens has to tap. Joe Lauzon wins by submission (armbar), round 2.
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HEADS UP TO EVERYONE
You fuck with Brent tonight in the comments section and you’re gone. This is your warning. We’re not bullshiting. You get lippy and you get tossed.
AND DON’T FORGET TO BUZZ!! THIS POST.
You tell 'em, Brent!
There’s nothing as sweet as free MMA.
What is your definition of fuckin with Brent?
I like to fuck with Brent – I thought we had a connection as the only 2 guys on the internet that were still boxing fans first MMA fans second. (A distant second) But still second
Gimme 1 Round!
Brent's just gonna totally make up bullshit as to whats happening on the Fight Night card
Darchinyan Arce is on and thats too good to pass up.
Gimme 1 Round!
And just to push the limit
I heard Arce’s been loading his gloves and covering his handwraps in Vaseline :P
Gimme 1 Round!
Shit...
I’ve already got the live blog done. It’s just copy and paste from here on out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
Buzz'd
What’s got the admins on Red Alert? Ban hammers a-flailin’ – warnings tossed about – Who pissed in the punch bowl?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think its just a pre-emptive strike to get all the focus and attention on the event. I’ll be bummed out too if this thread turns into a greasegate thread. Cause at the moment, I don’t have access to fight night braodcast.
I’m all for tossing “greasegate-gate” out the fuckin’ window.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
that’s really all it is. if they bring it up on the broadcast people are welcome to say something about what is said on the broadcast. I just don’t want every time someone goes for a submission there to be a Vaseline comment. This week has shown that pretty much any thread can quickly get turned into a “greasegate” thread if we wanted it to be or not. I just think the fights deserve our attention…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
Woot.
Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 5:28 PM EST reply actions
buzz'd
Anybody else hear rumors that Michael Phelps greased in Beijing too make him more slippery in the water?
That’s somewhat true. The special swimsuits he wore were engineered to have lower friction in the water. That, plus other technologies and design differences, is what caused so many swimming records to fall. I still say Mark Spitz, who swam with store-bought trunks, chest hair, and a porn-stache, is the superior athlete.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Chest hairs and porn-stache almost have the same effect as the shark suit, just a bit less efficient.. I wonder how Phelps would compare without his gear though..
Wouldn’t hair increase the friction, while the sharksuit decreases it, which is why they shave their bodies nowadays?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Thats what they thought before, shaving led to more skin contact with water, thus more friction. The shark skin works by trapping small air bubbles in its vey tiny grooves which leads to having less friction. And chest hairs and porn-staches works in almost the same way, it traps air bubbles that causes less friction with water.
Learn something new every day.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
As a side note
Anyone that has a problem with Michael Phelps smoking weed should be sterilized.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 5:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Swimmers shouldn’t smoke pot – they’d get the giggles and drown…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Word...
If you’re going to sell me on how unhealthy pot is…pictures of one of the healthiest motherfuckers on this planet smoking are going to totally kill your argument.
And I guarantee that is part of why everyone is so upset about it. Because it isn’t some douchebag on his couch eating chips and being lazy. It’s the guy everyone was so happy to have be “Mr. America” a few months back.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Oh...
I’ve already got a pizza on order. I’m no Michael Phelps
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
Papa Johns
FTW
But if I was back on the West Coast right now it would definitely be Strikeforce sponsor Round Table Pizza
Shameless plug for my favorite chain restaurant in the universe
(lol at this old Sacramento photo when I photobucketed Round Table) :topical:
mmmmm Round Table
Gimme 1 Round!
I miss Chicago...
We don’t have too many places for “good” pizza in southwest MI but in Chicago you couldn’t throw a rock without getting a good slice. (eff that NY garbage…Chicago pizza FTW)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Grimaldi's is supposed to be right there
at the Brooklyn Bridge, so i’m guessing you’ve been there
Gimme 1 Round!
Yeah, I used to work just a couple blocks away in DUMBO, we would get Grimaldi’s for folks’ birthdays. Definitely the best pizza I’ve had in NYC. It’s rare to go to see that place without a line going out the door.
Lombardi's is the same way
I stop by there every time i’m in the city, (which isn’t often). John’s on 44th is supposed to be worth going to just for the atmosphere and the pizza is supposed to be great too. Of course every NY’er will say their borough has the best slice. At Lombardi’s make sure you get meatballs on that badboy.
Gimme 1 Round!
Fact:
The most prominent reason why pot is illegal it was associated with blacks and Mexicans in the early 20th C, and respectable Americans would never associate themselves with such crassness.
Interestingly, alcohol and tobacco are near-useless for inducing altered states of consciousness. You’d need to smoke a cigar several feet long to enter a trance (Aztecs did it).
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Also
tobacco companies pumped large amounts of money into government lobbying to make sure it stayed illegal too. If pot was everywhere… How many people would stop smoking cigarettes. For the life of me I really don’t get as addicted to tobacco as I do to the oral fixation of lifting a cigarette or a joint up to lips.
Gimme 1 Round!
It's a money issue
now. The only way the government will likely legalize it if there is some way for them to tax it.
Granted the government loses money on incarcerating people for possession but yeah unless you can figure a way to put more money in their pockets, it’s not going to happen.
The US economy is suffering.
People use pot as relief from suffering.
The gov’t can legalize and tax pot to help boost the economy.
PROFIT!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions
I wish it was that easy
Pretty hard to tax a dealer, it’s likely going to be more of a slow process. Hopefully medical marijuana is more widely accepted and for now that would be a pay for the government to profit….
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/dea-led-by-bush-continues-pot-raids/?comment_page=1
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions
William Randolph Hearst.
The 1937 Marihuana Tax Act was primarily designed to make hemp illegal, paving the way for paper to be made largely by wood pulp (via a machine and process recently invented by people with political pull and a whole shit-ton of lumber to pulverize).
Weed was an innocent bystander/convenient scapegoat. But I digress.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
You know Brent...
He does eat like 15 thousand calories a day… performance enhancing??? you tell me ;)
Gimme 1 Round!
I recc'ed you on that
That 24 year old kid eats, sleeps, swims, shits, swims, eats, swims, shits, sleeps, day-in and day-out 360 days a year for 4 years all leading up to 1 week so a bunch of fat-fuck 40 year old losers that will never accomplish shit in their miserable little lives can live vicariously through him and feel patriotic. He works that hard to bring a little joy into their worthless little lives and then they get to self-righteously question his judgement and personal life because he had the poor judgement, not to smoke weed (you can’t prove he even did because the bong isn’t full), but to do something people might find questionable with fuckin douchebags that would take a photo and sell it to a tabloid.
WAR Phelps – If he doesn’t wanna come back in London he’s accomplished more by the time he was 24 than anybody that ever questions him could ever hope to accomplish.
I mean that really pisses me off.
Gimme 1 Round!
I understand that I am a guilty pleasure
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
And BJ needs better training partners. Snap.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
Forgot the sarcasm tag, BJ has a lot to learn about top level training. Mandolonez, McCully and Hawaiinburgers are gonna cut it.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 7, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
Sterilized isn't as bad of a word
Maybe, castrated will get people’s attention
I have a hard time imagining
a ninja doing that. Ninjas don’t need to steal peaches…from the front.
"Monkey Steals Peach"
Hey I know everybody here is an MMA fan and there are a precious few of us that are Boxing fans
But to any MMA fan that wants to see what is GUARANTEED to be a dynamite fight. (In boxing there are fights you can actually do that for.)
Showtime for the Darchinyan vs Arce fight. Its little guys but they both are completely offensive minded, hit like a truck, and like to win by attrition. Oh – And there is several years of bad blood brewing.
So if nothing else DVR the Showtime fights tonight you won’t be dissappointed.
Gimme 1 Round!
^ what he said.
I obviously want you all hanging out here and watching MMA. But the Darchinyan/Arce fight is going to be a barnburner.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions
I've been waiting for this fight for about 2 years now.
Going back to the fight before Darchinyan’s pounding of poor Victor Burgos… One of my sadder moments in boxing was yelling at my tv for the dumbass ref or Burgos’ POS corner to jump in and stop the fight. Even Vic didn’t wanna hit him anymore.
For the record I guess Burgos is alright now – I still haven’t seen an update on him beyond a month after that fight.
Gimme 1 Round!
This also related to another topic
especially with MMA going to be on there…
Showtime is the second best value on TV
after HDnet. Maybe even close to even with it. But not quite.
Gimme 1 Round!
Killing time...
I’m watching the movie Felon waiting for the show and I’ve gotta say it’s pretty damn good.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:16 PM EST reply actions
I don't...
understand why all the bad reviews fell back on acting like it’s a “typical prison movie” as at the very least the acting and characters took it to a higher level. And the plot is actually really tight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
The only part of that movie I liked was Malkovich. The lady from Fargo should not be so unsure of herself.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
I liked it...
it wasn’t great but it was a hoot…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
It’s in my Top 5 for the year – a comedy about nihilism! Totally kick-ass!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
Yah Pitt made the movie for me
He cracked me up as the airhead personal trainer. I know that dude so it made it funnier. (not Pitt – the airhead personal trainer)
Gimme 1 Round!
I thought the cast was great, but it lacked a real payoff. It was like one long setup for the pithy punchline at the end. (Though J.K. Simmons was definitely the right choice to deliver it. Love that guy.)
Also: Clooney’s “device” in the basement.
That was the punchline – there was no payoff. Movie-watching is experiencing the characters’ lives voyeuristically (sp?). However, they’re too polite to point out this fact – that nothing on screen really matters. Films that implicate the viewer as voyeur and the shallowness of the process never do well (Peeping Tom, Natural Born Killers, Man Bites Dog). Burn After Reading did it in a more intellectual manner, instead of a visceral one. Also, people associate spies with clandestine agencies running everything, and it subverted that expectation by making them all incompetent, which is an unsettling proposition. If no one is running the world, what does it matter?
I laughed the whole damn time, too.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
If...
Man Bites Dog had a face…I would punch it. Don’t ask me why but I HATE that fucking movie with an intense passion.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking you were talking about Wag The Dog for a minute
I was gonna say… The movie isn’t THAT bad. Never saw Man Bites Dog though
Gimme 1 Round!
Man Bites Dog
http://www.criterion.com/films/718
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
It had TONS of potential, but it wasted a lot of it. Had it played the premise straight instead of slapstick, it would have been phenomenal.
The director of MBD did kill himself, if you feel better.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
now I just feel like a prick
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
This view is actually pretty close
to the way the CIA was run under George Tenet and his predecessor John Deutch according to the book i’m reading by the CIA’s chief field officer in Afghanistan.
Jawbreaker is the book
Gimme 1 Round!
I’m watching last night’s Inside MMA. Here’s Bas’ face as Kenny Rice announced that HDNet would broadcast Sengoku:
That just about says it.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
haha, I just expanded my weed vocabulary
“Man come on over, the fights are on and I got that Michael Phelps!”
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Is Bas hangin’ with Joe Pesci?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
I am very surprised
The first UFC Unleashed on Spike has shown both Andrei Arlovski and Paul Buentello. You’d think such an evil company would burn any footage that showed fighters they don’t have anymore in positive ways… weird.
It's just petty
I think it’s hard to devalue Andrei Arlovski’s and editing him out an entire show seems like a waste of time.
The show is nothing but editing – they pick what fights to show. To give them airtime despite going separate ways is nothing if not magnanimous – especially when they could run a crawl that says ‘this guy just got KTFO by Fedor Emelianenko in the first round.’
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
I’m enjoying that they’re showing older fights – so many of the recent Unleashed episodes have been fights I’ve already seen. I’ve been a fan long enough for my first fights to be today’s reruns. Memories…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
I'd much rather
have the UFC work on more important things.
Besides, according to the numbers, not that many people watched DoR. And how many people are going to watch unleashed? How many people are going to put 2+2 together if they didn’t already know that fact?
Counter-programming takes much less effort and probably hurts Affliction more directly.
My thought was along those lines. I think they want him back more than they’re in the process of getting him back, but Dana’s never said a bad word about Andrei.
Dana’s said he’s the only fighter he regrets losing.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
They want both guys back
Buentello is a quality mid range HW and Andrei is still top 3-5 in the world at HW. Why not use their footage to fill time. Burying him on their undercard and keeping him on the shelf didn’t erase Andrei this won’t do anything either way.
Gimme 1 Round!
Performed by people stoned out of their gourds?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Throw out...
Pot, Movies, Food, or Alcohol and the comments get flowing.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
If you've ever wanted to feel humiliated, play a FPS on a "Competitive Server"
You will die more than a red shirt in star trek.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That's why I avoid playing online
Which game?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
CS:S
And then I always play TF2, but I can hold my own in that.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
I love TF2, but the servers were too chaotic for me to enjoy. I’m an enormous introvert, and even virtual people make me feel crowded. CS:S is waaaay too competitive for me – considering it’s the standard FPS for team tourneys internationally, the players are so intense. I like cranking UT up to Godlike.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
I luv me some TF2, I just hit up the clan serversand soldier/scout it up.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It’s a great game, I just don’t enjoying that style of play.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Cool - I liked it cause there was so much variety in how you culd have your fun
Lower gravity to 0
Then raise it to 1000 and kill everybody :P
Gimme 1 Round!
Also, a word of warning:
If a friend ever comes to your house with a bootleg movie called “Tokyo Gore Police”, DON’T WATCH IT. Just trust me.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Your statement
makes me want to see why…..
You will never feel anything again.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Sounds like a good movie...
Anything like that one japanese prison movie? Ya know, where the guy smashes some other guys head with his bare hands?
I’m going to buy TGP now, thanks to youl.
By the people who made machine girl.
Its like machine girl, but with 10000000000x more blood and gore.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Super Mourning Squad UNITE!!!
Best line from Machinegirl
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed, but his makes Machine Girl look like the care bears movie.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Those kind of movies just bore me – Oh look, it’s more excessive violence! I would have never guessed!
However, the Drill Bra was awesome
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions
hot?
I’m conflicted…..
Do you also enjoy snuff films? :P
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Have you seen a real one?
Its very difficult to enjoy – especially as I had no idea what the dude did to deserve it. If he had it coming it would have been much easier to stomach. The gurgling is especially unappetizing
Gimme 1 Round!
don't make a point of it to watch one
seeing a dude beaten with a hammer is a haunting image. Curiosity got me to watch one posted in another place once. It was like a russian mob killing as best I can guess. Makes you really wanna fuck up the scrawny douches doing it. Then again maybe the guy had it coming. Death by hammer is really not how I wanna go now though. I learned that
Gimme 1 Round!
Little harder to laugh at the Team America scene
where he gives Gary the hammer to kill himself with if he’s captured
Gimme 1 Round!
I remember that was floating around Sherdog for a while – fucked-up stuff
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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Is there a difference between a snuff film and seeing footage of people being executed?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
Draw it out into a torture session
thats more of the one I saw. It was not like somebody just being shot or even beheaded
Gimme 1 Round!
I study the psychology of brainwashing & torture (perverse fascination) and in the film Taxi to the Dark Side, they describe in detail the tortures that killed people in Abu Ghraib, Basra, and Gitmo. Political alignment aside, I think everyone can agree it’s horribly fucked. Just read KUBARK or watch someone get waterboarded. Humanity FTL!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
‘The Dark Side’ by Jane Mayer is a great dissection of just how fucked up things got during the last eight years.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
I really don't consider waterboarding torture
cause i’ve been an assistant around during SERE school for the army. We do worse shit to our own guys that interrogators do to enemy…
Gimme 1 Round!
When I was trying to go through group
I got some punishments to make us quit that would be called inhumane if we did them to enemy detainees
Gimme 1 Round!
SERE was the basis of the programs designed by the CIA to break these guys – sleep deprivation mostly (which leads to hallucinations more than confessions). Read ‘The Dark Side’.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Lol except i've watched our guys get dunked
in friggin ice water with chicks out there to berate them for how small their dick is – over and over and over again
Gimme 1 Round!
in like 25 degree weather
and I didn’t even get to witness the really fucked up mental things they put em through
Gimme 1 Round!
This is just the shit that’s been leaked. One can only imagine what went on behind closed doors.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
Actualy, the CIA’s research into psychological torture was Project MKULTRA. The research outsourced to Canada is horrid. They were headed by a psychologist attempting to cure schizophrenia by rewiring the brain.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
That’s Martin Seligman’s experiments. MKULTRA dealt more with sensory deprevation, drugs, sleep deprivation. It’s similar to the stuff used for transcendental meditation, or stuff like the film Altered States – but much less moral.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
I imagine the majority of practitioners on the ground level weren’t so in tune to the history of the subject.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
The idea of higher mental plains is as old as humans. The CIA just found a way to use it for less-than-ideal purposes.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions
That’s what I don’t get about SERE – why do we prepare our soldiers for this when no one else is likely to do it?
How come you don’t consider waterboarding torture?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Its an exercise to prepare your mind for captivity so you don't break
and to teach you how to lie to save your own life if you’re caught by terrorists. Or at least how to prepare to try to save your own life instead of getting beheaded
Gimme 1 Round!
The worst thing thats going to happen from waterboarding
is that you get smothered and pass out. And then they wake you up
Gimme 1 Round!
Dude, death threats are technically torture. Simulated drowning isn’t?
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Different strokes for different folks
every time we fucked up we got physically trained in a pit filled with stagnant water, vomit, piss and god only knows how many trillions of bacteria. We had 45 guys in the class before us med drop and like 75% of them were from MRSA
Gimme 1 Round!
See, as a civilian, I gotta ask, how much of that is actual training and how much is meathead bullshit?
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
You'd never get treated like that in the regular military
in the old days you might get your ass kicked if you kept fuckin up… But as for today that was just a small unit method of weeding out people that would quit or give up
Gimme 1 Round!
If we interrogated foreigners the way they did us in SF baby school
The media would shit a brick lol
Gimme 1 Round!
Like I went through in the summer when the pit was nastiest
and the top of water would be yellow streaked with red… But in the winter you got to hop in and break ice lol
Gimme 1 Round!
You guys..
are totally freaking me out.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
I have no problem with the discussion...
it’s just creeping me out. Snuff films…mind control…etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Did you know that the CIA’s interrogation manual is available for purchase?
Of course, it’s also public domain, so you don’t really need to pay for it.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
Does it even give useful results? Pro interrogators say befriending the prisoners is the only way to get reliable info, and too much torture breaks them mentally and they say anything, true or false, to make it stop.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions
Oh definately
I believe if you cross the real torture line people will say anything ANYTHING at all to make it stop. But you aren’t gonna befriend a religious fanatic that is willing to kill himself just to kill you or anybody you know
Gimme 1 Round!
very fine line
like waterboarding would be more like a punishment to scare them because I’m damn sure it sucks. Just like spending hours in the gig pit sucked. And then getting out and getting a green srubby and putting bleach on it to scrub your cuts so you didn’t get infected
Gimme 1 Round!
made you wanna be nice and friendly
If you use extreme measures as a first resort you aren’t going to get anywhere. But i’m no interrogator so I could be wrong – i’m just talking from what I think common sense would tell a person.
Gimme 1 Round!
“Befriending” isn’t quite the right world, but the pros say that you need to make the prisoner realize that the questioner is the only lifeline, and if they cooperate with the questioner, they can receive small perks, or protection for their family (whether true or false is moot). Reportedly, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed became close with his questioners.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions
I remember his guards were impressed that he lasted 2+min. I guess you do the “Alice in Winderland” just enough to have them lose hope, then offer tit-for-tat help. Ultimate Good Cop, Bad Cop routine.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder...
Is it really a good thing for the average populace to know torture techniques?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
Its better they know them
Than EOD techniques :D Like knowing how to counteract bomb squad techniques
Gimme 1 Round!
Just you an 30 year old women.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It’s my next streaming pick from Netflix, once I’m done with The Office and a bunch of Doctor Who (4th Doctor FTW!)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
The Office on BBC is vastly superior. Ricky Gervais FTMFW.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Too short of a run though...
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
I could give two shits – dynamite comes in small packages. I love Steve Carell, but he just can’t hold a candle to Ricky.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
It was awesome..
I just like the US version a little better. It is hitting a “too long of a run” point now though as stuff is starting to feel very forced.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I used to think the same
but the US version was murdering the original for a minute, until it started falling off this season.
Gervais > Carrell
but
Dwight Schrute > Gareth Keenan
FACT:
he is faster than 80% of all snakes
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
" I don’t have a lot of experience with vampires, but I have hunted werewolves. I shot one once, but by the time I got to it, it had turned back into my neighbor’s dog. "
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha
“Security in this office park is a joke. Last year I came to work with my spud-gun in a duffle bag. I sat at my desk all day with a rifle that shoots potatoes at 60 pounds per square inch. Can you imagine if I was deranged?”
And hulu rocks.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
I'm more of an Office
fan. Other then the awards 30 rock has gotten, is it any good? Need more of a personal opinion I guess.
AWmusic - mp3 blog on independent music..
Yeah...
I’m with you on The Office. My favorite show personally.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
My favorites in the last couple years..
1. Arrested Development
2. The Office
3. 30 Rock
4. Flight Of The Conchords
(I’m just talking domestic – don’t get me started on The IT Crowd, Snuff Box, Summer Heights High / We Can Be Heroes, etc.)
and achengy – 30 Rock is closer in tone to Arrested Development than The Office. I have to say I’ve really come to appreciate Tina Fey as a writer since I started watching it – she’s wittier and hipper than most sitcom writers these days and has a very distinct tone. Alec Baldwin and Tracy Morgan… yeah, I could go on, but the fights are almost starting. Needless to say I throw a hearty personal rec behind it.
I kind of want to see the Veach and Grice fight
according to the write up, it sounds pretty good.
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Oh, shit. Nick is back to his old tricks.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
BLING
"I was trying to rob him. And he took my gun from me. And the gun was full of blanks. And he shot a blank into my eye. And now I cannot see from this eye ever again, the doctors say."
"Well to be honest it sounds like it's all your fault."
WHHHHHHOOOOOOOOOO!
FIGHT TIME!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions
Need something nicer than discussing the finer parts of torture?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...I think I'm ready for that
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
I always find it funny when I read about how awful certain practices are, only to see them in BDSM porn (a friend is a research psychologist in the field, so I get to hear all about it)
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
boooooo!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:00 PM EST up reply actions
Then we can both win
And I have Neer too – but Luigi’s going down in a heap
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Since we’re now doing mmaplayground that has a lot of fancy betting, the local gambling gurus should do special posts regarding what fancy words like “parlay” mean.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Parlay: One guy loses and you’re fucked.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
It’s something alright…
Does anyone know which UFC DVD has the full version of the TUF theme? I forget the band name, one of the ridiculous Zuffa bands. I’m fiending to hear that right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ffb3yo3oN1E
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Wait, wtf Cain only weighed in at 239?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Cain...
is up in the first fight they said right? I walked out of the room for a minute
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions
sweet...thanks
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Btw everybody, apparently Ben Askren’s debut is going to be streamed live on this site.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This just started up. It’s a webcam but it’s better than nothing. Askren is definitely one to watch.
WAR DARCHINYAN
You’re hard to understand… But at least I understand “I going to knock him out”
Gimme 1 Round!
Arce just said everybody will remember this fight
it will be the most historic fight of my career
Gimme 1 Round!
Crap, thanks for reminding me. I called the cable company and ordered Showtime, then forgot to record the fight.
No spoilers plz!
Agreed...
I’m watching that fight when this show ends. So a lack of spoilers would make me happy.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions
OK OK
No spoilers – but if you see me like OMG OMG OMG Its because the fight is off the chain… I won’t give details though
Gimme 1 Round!
That is fine..
I’m sure SC from BLH will be doing the same thing to me via IM
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Demarco vs Raiymkulov is first
I don’t even know these guys.
Oh ok Raiymkulov is Kid Diamond
Even without knowing them… its on Showtime it will be a good fight
Gimme 1 Round!
Jesus...
that is some of the worst mouth to word synchronization that I’ve seen in the last 5 years (on the SF4 commercial)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:10 PM EST reply actions
HA!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
Timesplitters-ish in that regard.
Hopefully it can be nearly as good as the Timesplitters series.
TS is one of the most fun FPS I’ve ever played. Time to split!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
Its my favorite FPS ever.
I will never ever tire of playing virus on TS2 or TS3. : )
Its too bad the company is done and shopping the series…hopefully it doesnt get ruined. I personally enjoy it more than Halo.
TS Collection...
sitting on my shelf right now. Glad to hear it get some love.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Check out this concept art for TS4. I hope it gets made.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
Is that the one with Zombie Jonah? lol
Thats ingenious.
Thanks for not ripping me for being offtopic. : )
Timesplitters is incredibly underrated and I try to get it a rub when I can.
Agreed on Halo being overrated – poor weapon balance, and tried too hard to be cool. Very unimaginative.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
A friend ran for student council VP with the slogan “Enhance your Student Council!” and him posed like Bob. He won in a landslide
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
9:12...
and we’re about to get the first intros out of the way.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yep...
he made the decision to get the hell out of there
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
How come the one I don't want to win is from my hometown :<
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions
it seems as though there can’t be an event featuring a Lauzon without somebody getting Kongo’d
by mocavious sam on Feb 7, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
LUIGI JUST GOT RUMBLED.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Goldie just completely lost the plot when Rogan said “abortion.” Is he mormon or something? His circuitry doesn’t tolerate anything PG-13 very well.
Now that you mention it, he looks a little Mormony.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Affliction and Tecate Beer
Large and in charge on the ring mat for the Showtime fights
Gimme 1 Round!
Johnson...
gives me that Mike Tyson feeling. Even if there is a moment where you may think it’s getting a little boring…you know that any second he could end things.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:22 PM EST reply actions
Blasphemy below
Johnson-GSP, early 2010. I don’t know who I’m betting right now.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rumble is a great fighter, always wants to improve.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
well hold on now
mike didnt get the name “quick” for nothing. he is lightening at WW and i think would be either a close decision or a round 2 tko from either of them.
My worry with Rumble...
is if he fights too often that it’ll be followed up by the Huerta “I fought too often…I need some time off” and then the “I don’t want to fight anymore”
Then again as much as I liked Huerta (and I was a huge fan) he never seemed to truly “love” fighting.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions
I think you need to see Johnson vs a good 170 lbs ground fighter
He still got tapped by clementi…
Gimme 1 Round!
Did Rumble throw an "oss" at the end of his thanks?
That’s neat.
Rogan got an “explosive” in there – I think he caught himself saying it but it was too late.
WAR WEIRDO VEGAN. I’ve like Danzig ever since he got his block knocked off by Sakurai
Gimme 1 Round!
NO!
DO NOT GIVE ME A COMMERCIAL FOR THE ABORTION OF A FRIDAY THE 13TH REMAKE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:30 PM EST reply actions
JASON WAS NOT THE KILLER IN FRIDAY THE 13TH GOD DAMMIT!
THE CAMP IS SUPPOSED TO STILL BE OPEN! THIS IS ALL SO WRONG! I HATE YOU MICHAEL BAY!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I'mma go see it
I don’t know why. Probably because of the picture of the young Jason i’ve seen… it cracks me up
Gimme 1 Round!
Every god damn...
horror movie now with the stupid “scary backwoods people”
“She ain’t missin…she’s dead” Just once I’d like for a modern horror movie to not introduce me to a backwoods old woman
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions
But she’s the only one that knows the truth about the woods!
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
Let The Right One In was the best horror movie of the last 10 years.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That’s like being the smartest kid in Nebraska. Not a great distinction.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
No, it was amazing. Shut up unless you've seen it.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
This is surprisingly creepy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js7wxoqeVK0
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
May
Creepy fuckin’ movie.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Mother. tell your children not to punch my face
by mocavious sam on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Instant Rimshot
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hurry up, break! Laptop battery low!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions
Danzig is getting brutalized.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Yep – I don’t care if I lose my money, Neer’s looked good.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
By a guy with a tramp stamp.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
I saw a dude that had a tramp stamp
It was the Monopoly guy with hundred dollar bills… that shit was funny as fuck
Gimme 1 Round!
I loathe Neer...
as a human being I think he is just about the lowest form of scum. But this is a hell of a fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Why is Neer so bad? The arrest is pretty bad, but I don’t get the venom.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
Drunk driving (twice no less)
and running from the cops at over 100 MPH is the same as walking down the street blindfolded shooting a gun.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot those details, I thought it was a basic DWI.
Yeah, I’m on the Anti-Neer bandwagon now.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
REAL TALK: my brother lost a leg to a drunk driver. I’ve known people who’ve lost their lives. I don’t hold two-time DUI offenders in high esteem, especially if they’re retarded enough to run from the cops to the point where spike strips are necessary.
My aunt..
was killed (her kid watched her die in the car) by a drunk driver. My other cousin (10 years old) was killed by a drunk driver.
Neer gets no sympathy from me. Honestly I wouldn’t have this had someone else done it. But a guy who was willing to kill innocents and police in drunk driving chases whining about the crowd boing him…weak as hell.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Considering your view of Neer, what do you think of Rampage? Seems like he should be considered the lowest form of scum as well.
(formerly TheFightJournal)
Different situation...
I’ll cover after the fight
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
You control how much alcohol you take in. You can’t necessarily control your mental health.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Neer = New LW Gatekeeper
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
They needed someone to replace Guida – who is a full fledged contender
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
Guida is in no way a contender
He’s won his last 2 fights by stalling
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Fuck all that noise
He’s at least second tier now – you have to be pretty good to beat him
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Going for the takedown...
and then giving up and pulling guard was the worst move Danzig could have made there.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I'm surprised he didn't let Neer up
Danzig was winning the fight standing and it quickly became clear he couldn’t do anything on the ground against Neer. Why just sit there in his guard and risk the sub?
not sure how to do this
but this is me giving you shit, trying to fuck with you. how am i doing so far?
Carrots just don’t seem to instill much aggression.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't have any killer instinct on your plate
How can you have any in the ring? Danzig needs to get some lessons in manhood from that prick bastard on Hell’s Kitchen
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If you can beat a cow, you can beat a fighter.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Rec’d for awesome killer instinct line.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 7, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Less than 3 rounds of action...
and unless there are two more quick finishes we’re not getting to see any undercard action.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM EST reply actions
This is already more finishes than I saw last Saturday. I’ll take it – and Cain will probably be short
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
Well..
how else will I know what to avoid?
Seriously…I love the UFC…but I have learned that if there is a sneak peek of something on one of these shows that it is probably best to pretend it doesn’t exist.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions
The demographics want what they want.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
Man, you and Brent are bringing me down with all the negativity.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
If they’re killing the buzz, smoke some more Michael Phelps.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I guess we’ve been spoiled by the pacing of WEC/EliteXC/Affliction cards on TV. The pace of these Spike specials is brutal.
Yeah, that first Affliction card’s pacing was fantastic.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
I am a bit of a whiney bitch tonight...
but I gave some Dwight Schrute quotes. THat’s gotta count for somethin.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Danzig won TUF as a welterweight, but he probably would fit the featherweight division better, given all the big dudes at lightweight.
How much is he cutting already?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Hardly anything...
don’t remember exactly. But he’s small at 155.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t know but he looked awfully small in there tonight. Granted, Neer is a huge lightweight.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Because he's a roider
from a camp that feeds their fighters velveeta intravienously before fights so they get slick
Gimme 1 Round!
I want some velveeta now
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I before e, except for in the word ‘vein’
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
I before E, except after C
Or when it sounds like A
As in Neighbor or Weigh
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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
It is a good match
I can be honest when ZUFFA does something right – I just honestly don’t think they do most of the time.
I like the Danzig Neer matchup alot too :D
Gimme 1 Round!
Time to switch to Beerfest for 3 minutes
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Rogan is talking to a DEA agent? I hope he pulls up his left sleeve!
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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 9:55 PM EST reply actions
less than 3 rounds of fight...
and we’re over an hour of air time in. It’s really bad
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Stolnic comes from the Paul buentelle school of fitness
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Or Fedor, depending on how you look at it.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
ALISTAIR MENTION!
sorry…fanboy in me came out screaming…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST reply actions
ME TOO ME TOO!!!
Maybe there’s truth to the rumors of hm being signed…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
NUTSHOT NUTSHOT NUTSHOT.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
It’s interesting that they mentioned Alastair Overeem and Semmy Schilt by name.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Semmy...
has at least fought there before. But Overeem…not so much.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I’ll never complain about free fights but this is out of hand even for Spike.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I fucking hate agreeing with smoogy, but
These bastards better run long – this is a lot of commercials.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:01 PM EST reply actions
yeah this fight will be 2 minutes than another 20 of commercials.
by Michael Rome on Feb 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Sigh. The UFC ain’t perfect, gang, and don’t ever said I said they were.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to pick up my positivity...
but I need fights to be happy god dammit…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:02 PM EST reply actions
The last WEC show was pretty awful in regard to pacing and commercials as well.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
This is better...
than that show. That WEC show was the worst pacing I’ve ever seen.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree in that they beat no fight shows at all. But more objectively, agree.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree!
As opposed to paying for this card (which I wouldn’t do) or not getting to see the fights at all (which would bum me out), I’ll take the assload of commercials.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Disagree, but this show is doing everything it can to change my mind.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously disagree...
but it is sad to think how many more fights could be shown.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Pointy man boobs!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:05 PM EST reply actions
Don't you fuck up my parlay, Cain.
Leave that to Pellegrino
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:06 PM EST reply actions
shit,
just caught up on the dvr. It took like 10 minutes to watch the first hour. Hopefully the 2nd hour is better.
I just got back from your mom's basement.
Hey, I’m in my mom’s basement, asshole
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Especially Stojnioc – he’s still got his legs under him.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
He certainly is a tough son of a bitch.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
I’d say so.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
This is like Drederick Tatum vs. Homer Simpson
by smoogy on Feb 7, 2009 10:11 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Wow
Cain is killing King Kong Bundy + Vladimir Kozlov’s lovechild.
Where does the UFC find these serviceable punching bags?
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:14 PM EST reply actions
Europe
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
by P Brady on Feb 7, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Why are they booing? He hadn’t defended himself well for several minutes.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
That dude just earned himself a job in the UFC.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions
I wouldn’t mind seeing him against a Justin McCully or Eddie Sanchez.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Are you guys serious?
WAR FUCKING VELASQUEZ!!!
Not one of you have given him props here. He dominated this guy. Stojnic got his ass wooped and all you talk about is how he could take a beating? Wow…I say, get these bastards who dont have *ANY skill whatsoever the fuck out of my MMA and go fight Kimbo on youtube. For shame, all of you!
:P
Seriously though Velasquez kicked some ass and got some much needed Octagon time in. BROWN PRIDE FTW!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 8, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
Kid Nate: I’m not expecting much from Stojnic. I hope they give him a gimme in a European UFC to make up for feeding him to Velasquez. Of course there is the proverbial puncher’s chance, but I don’t think Stojnic is the guy to KO Velasquez. Cain Velasquez by TKO in 1.
Brent Brookhouse: Barring the proverbial “lucky punch” Stojnic is going to get smashed big time here. Velasquez is young but he is pretty much the worst possible kind of opponent for a guy like Stojnic. Cain Velasquez by TKO, round 1.
Michael Rome: This is a fight put on only because they couldn’t find a legit heavyweight willing to fight Cain. Velasquez by TKO, round 1.
Cannon Jacques: Velasquez has a ton of potential. Stojnic could certainly make a name for himself with an upset, but I don’t see it happening. Velasquez via TKO, round 1.
Nick Thomas: Velasquez by whatever he wants.
To paraphrase, he is who they thought he was!
I still think it’s hilarious no one wants to fight him. Not that I blame them at all, the guy is a nightmare. I can’t wait to see him take the next step up in competition.
He didn't take much damage
So I’m hoping for another fight from him soon. UFC Fight Night in April? Co-Main event against Cheik Kongo?
I just thought he had a great showing. The guy looked like he was in a training session. Excellent head movement and just great all around skill.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 8, 2009 9:35 AM EST up reply actions
You know this...
but after a while you stop feeling the punches hit you after a while (or at least how hard they are landing). Maybe he just thought “sweet…all he was doing was tapping me…let’s get back up!”
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
They HAVE to show one now right? They only have 15 minutes of possible fighting to fill 45.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
I must know...
if beer farts or tequila farts smell worse!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Most even seemed to the back of it.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he was saving up for another roll. I sure want to see him fight someone a little less badass.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
He would be safe only if he rolled a natural 20…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
The crowd...
wanted to see a serious injury I guess. How many more punches would have made the stoppage okay for these fans?
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:18 PM EST reply actions
TB has a well known bloodlust. Just go to a lightning game.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
HAHA
You’re Vic crazy tonight!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
The crowd is heavily Mexican and Vic is thriving on the Boo's from the mexicans and the BUUUUULLLL's
from the Armienians
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
That crowd is brutal.
They just no-sold Velasquez having a kid.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think what happened was...
People thought the ref just stood them up to fight again. The ref didn’t really make it clear that he had stopped the fight until he told cain it was over and he waved his arms.
(BTW, this is the only time I have EVER missed Herb Dean’s ridiculous way of stopping fights when people are taking a beating)
haha yes, where Herb waves his arms while standing over the fighters, so everyone else knows the fight is over first
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Hey look an undercard fight!
Quit yer bitchin!
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:21 PM EST reply actions
Good one to show
these guys are beating the shit out of each other
I just got back from your mom's basement.
This ref replaces Yamasaki
‘FINISH HIM’
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Of the ‘letting em fight’ mentality. Early stoppages suck.
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, according to my bosnian friend who's dad's friend is friends with Stojnic, he was only picked for the fight because he was on vacation in like december and no one else would fight him, so he was like "Yeah, whatever"
ahahaha
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
The way I put that makes it sound way less true than it is.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
So, your dad’s friend – friend, who has a cousin that has a friend that knows stojnic said this?
Bewbs!
They are a ton of Eastern European communities around here,
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
If he dies,
he dies
/Drago’d
I just got back from your mom's basement.
by Warden11 on Feb 7, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Awful stoppage...
If that was a stoppage than Grice won the fight two minutes before it happened.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:26 PM EST reply actions
Good fight and terrible stoppage.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Hopefully gets another fight before he gets booted.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Hopefully Grice gets…
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
That was a fun fight. I don’t foresee a long UFC career for Veach if he continues to take every other punch right on the chin though.
Not a single clean punch...
landed after the knockdown. Wow…just horrible reffing. I don’t mind the stoppage if Grice hadn’t had a harder knockdown with more immediate damage done a few minutes earlier.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:29 PM EST reply actions
Yep.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Ha!
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
The third word
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
oh...and the first
I’m a fucking moron
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
No name-calling! Not even yourself!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Brent has been warned for fucking with Brent.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK!?
I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHY I WAS WARNED! BAN ME IF YOU WANT! FUCK YOU! FUCK ALL OF YOU! BAN ME! COME ON!
/typical reaction to warnings
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha.
I’m going to get my thesaurus out, and admonish you ala Luke.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
No shit.
Your negativity is manifesting itself in a variety of ways now.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Soul Caliber IV > SF4
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
As long as I can still...
do shit by going | \ – (down, down right, right) then I’m up for SF4
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Or any of the fights.
Or release the UFNs on DVD.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
LET'S GO CREEPY JOE!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions
Why wouldnt spike start the broadcast a few hours earlier and show the whole event?
its not like theyre overflowing with content on their network…
As long as Pellegrino won/wins
and J-Lau pulls it off I’m perfect for the night
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions
Joe seems a lot smaller than Stevenson…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:42 PM EST reply actions
To the naked eye, it looks like a total mismatch. Lauzon has deceptive power and crazy balance.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but just in terms of size.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Oh yeah, I’m agreeing. If I was just starting to watch MMA, I’d be all “oh man, skinny boy is gonna get stomped.”
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Okey-Dokey. War Scrawny Dudes!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Full Tilt offers Instant E-Checks for all your addictive needs
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
same
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
Where’s this “Beautiful Edith” Goldie keeps mentioning? It can’t be that plastic-looking ring girl, can it?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Yeah, I’m not a Horseface fan.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
DONT YOU FUCK UP MY PARLAY J-LAU
WIN DAMN YOU
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:52 PM EST reply actions
Lauzon's grappling is insane.
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
That was a great fight. His takedowns and transitions were incredible to watch.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Lauzon even got a Kata-Garuma! That’s just awesome.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lauzon was very impressive there.
I would not want to fuck with him on the ground. One of those pesky types.
Very much agreed.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
YES!
$400 be on Lauzon in the BE MMAPlayground! WHOO!
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions
$400 BET on Lauzon that should say
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
er...$450 rather
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
The show is going to end...so I'll spoiler alert here
Yes…you had a very good night
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Sweet!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I should clarify – they aren’t fighting each other.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Did Logan even get to strut once tonight? WTF?
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions
Getting a head start on promoting March 11th.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Roshold....
I’m ready to give up on him now. He’s a sloppy dork when he fights. He needs time on the smaller shows again…he isn’t ready for the UFC.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:57 PM EST reply actions
Rosholt
dammit…I am a typo machine
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, he needs a lot more seasoning.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
On a positive note...
the majority of the BE staff was correct in picking Miller. Ha.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 7, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
...shut up
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:01 PM EST up reply actions
I thought Roshalt was a good bet as an underdog myself
He needs to work on shooting against strikers. King Mo has it down, but Roshalt can’t seem to get it right
Gimme 1 Round!
Here.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 7, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
PELLEGRINO FTW
6-0 on predictions tonight!
by Derek Suboticki on Feb 7, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Rosholt freaked out… but still, Dan Miller is awesome. Top 20 middleweight for sure.
Crazy stat: Miller brothers 5-0 in the UFC in 5 months.
by smoogy on Feb 7, 2009 11:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd.
Nice stat. Miller brothers running tings.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 11:03 PM EST up reply actions
In real betting news...
I was feeling frisky and put together a multi-sport 4 bet parlay tonight (something I normally NEVER do with real money):
Anthony Johnson -325
Gleison Tibau -110
Michigan +17 points
Vic Darchinyan -350
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions
Only need Vic to come through for me now
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
No...
just lost by less than 17 (i think they lost by 5 or 6)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Nope, they lost by 8. Still covered the spread though. This is one of the more ridiculous bets I’ve seen and Brent is going to make out like a bandit.
If Darchinyan wins
but if you saw what I posted earlier… Ever since Darchinyan went back to his amatuer coach his boxing has been fantastic
Gimme 1 Round!
It will pay off...
at roughly 520% of what I bet on it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
er...
maybe a little less than that. But right around…
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
I threw down $50
and just verified the win would be over $250.
I felt really confident about all of those (Michigan has been playing well…I figured they’d lose but not by 17, AJ was a lock, Vic was pretty much a lock, I was pretty sure Tibau would be too much)
It wasn’t a huge bet. But it was enough that I’m more than happy to win.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Hey dude you came close
The fight was good… You may as well watch even though it will upset you
Gimme 1 Round!
i couldn't resist...
I already know the truth
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
we'll not mention the result though..
for the sake of those who may want to watch ;)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
the ending was odd
never saw that before…didnt see the rest…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions
For all the commercials...
We still got to see SIX fights for free tonight in 2 hours, none of which went the distance and a couple of which (Miller, Lauzon) definitely improved fighters’ standings in their respective divisions. Good stuff.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 11:07 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
they got 2 undercard bouts on so I’m cool. Had they not been able to get at least 2 on I’d have been a bit upset.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
it's not so bad as long
as you don’t mind changing the channel for the way too long advertised sections. I cringed when the DEA guy came on…
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Just mentioned Denis...
being from their camp. Not a whole lot more detail that I heard. It was just hearing their names mentioned that got everyone (myself included) going.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions
Tibau...
sounds like he looked like a beast too
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Event is over...this thread is no longer spoiler free
Feel free to discuss undercard results (keep the boxing results out of it though)
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST reply actions
I’m out of here before I unleash the fucking fury on skwirrl. Great job tonight dude.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
I take the blame...
I was talking like it was okay to mention the results of that fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions
No worries, shit happens, I just overheated for a sec. In other news, Gary Shaw is still a repulsive human being.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
damn.
i had clementi in that 1. i got lauzon and neer right though. iwas waaay of on luigi over rumble. would love to see rumble/mclovin next. cain needs to step it up a notch. HEATH HERRING should be ready by now. great night of fights imo. 6 free fights aint bad. to many damned ads though.im off to see the vic/jorge fight! :)
Johnson/Hazelett would be an interesting clash of styles.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
Right now, I’d take Johnson in that one.
by Chris Nelson on Feb 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
Probably, but I’d still like to see it. It’s a good test for both of them.
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Boo I wanted to see the Emerson/Pellegrino bout
too bad.
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