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BloodyElbow.com's UFC Fight Night 17: Lauzon vs. Stephens Betting Game Results

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mmaplayground has camps. you could make a BE camp, but you have a set amount of money per 10 events. It has been a while since I have been there so it may be totally diffrent

by szucconi on Feb 5, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm… that might work. I’ll look into it.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever you do, write down baby steps for us morons. I fucking love that game.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions  

I like it more now that ive gotten to wear a belt for a few days.. and i agree, babysteps it should be…it is a great game, but ive been noticing theres more people everytime you start a new one, i was wondering if it was getting hectic.

by DUGASWARRIOR on Feb 5, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Alright I’ve created an account at mmaplayground.com and created a fight BloodyElbow.com Fight Camp.

http://www.mmaplayground.com/camps/bloodyelbowcom/

Somebody create an account… make sure it’s the same name as you use here or as close to it as possible and try join the group.

We’re 2 events late in the season… but it won’t matter if we’re just tracking the group.

Let’s see if we can figure this out. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I requested an invite

by szucconi on Feb 5, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok I sent an invite.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I am now in the BE camp.

by szucconi on Feb 5, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m on now too. Invite requested.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 5, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome, I’m in.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 5, 2009 5:34 PM EST up reply actions  

i have requested an invite

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Feb 5, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

damnit, i dont have any access at work, i guess ill have to give up my belt without a fight

by DUGASWARRIOR on Feb 5, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions  

You can create an account tonight. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

This is a better idea...

than the league I was starting. So mine is closed and I joined up…

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 5:51 PM EST reply actions  

Be smart guys...

Obviously if you want to bet all $1000 on the first event…go nuts. But if you lose it you’re done for 8 events as Nick said. I personally made a pretty huge play on Lauzon (bigger than I normally would put on a single fight) simply because I think that he has a TON of value heading into this fight and Stephens is getting overvalued severely. But I won’t be broke if he doesn’t come through for me.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 6:09 PM EST reply actions  

Well, you do get more then 1000, you get a small amount of cash for your picks each event. it is enough to keep you playing, but not enough to compete with the folks that are winning bets.

by szucconi on Feb 5, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

true...

but as you said. You’re basically dead in the water at that point.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, I have made a comeback before, but you have to take large risks. For example we are starting 2 events into a 10 event season. We can’t compete with folks that have had a good two events, but if we hit a big parlay then we are right there with them, it is just it takes extraordinary betting.

by szucconi on Feb 5, 2009 6:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's possible....

it’s just not likely if a few other guys are doing well.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions  

im signed up. do i need to be invited into the camp?

by moopwontplay on Feb 5, 2009 6:10 PM EST reply actions  

Go to the team page

and request an invite. You’ll then get a message saying that you’ve been invited which you’ll then be able to accept and you’ll be on the team.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Cool. Just sent an invite.

by Johann on Feb 5, 2009 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, I already had an account, and a balance over 1k from the last event. Should I create a new BE-specific account then, so I’m not ahead of the game?

by Tim Burke on Feb 5, 2009 6:54 PM EST reply actions  

Keep your same account.

Maybe we’ll just go with picks for titles this season… and start giving titles for Wagers next season. We’ll figure it out. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

1000 for 8 events? Gay. Plan on adjusting the minimum/maximum bet allowances so I can bet, like, more than one fight per card?

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions  

You can bet...

more than one fight per card. If you check a box you’re putting that pick in a parlay. If you just type in an amount next to the fighter you’re picking that is an individual fight pick.

I like having a limited amount because it makes things a more “realistic” betting scenario than “just pick all the big underdogs and hope you hit a big upset or two and if not you get $1000 more the next show”

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

*makes FOR a more...not makes things a more

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 5, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

What I’m saying is if the minimum bet is now 10% of my total bankroll I will be hesitant to bet more than that.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions  

With what user name? =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

um

Bloodyelbowfromthemount?

I think with you all adding me your wins and losses just went up by 100.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 5, 2009 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t see your request… .can you create an account with your same BE name? Thanks. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I was

Being Sarcastic. It is AmericanFighterAce.

I have had this one for a long time.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 5, 2009 9:18 PM EST up reply actions  

For some really weird reason I thought I had it as Mr. NC-17 but when I was on MMA-Maina’s team, I changed it to AmericanFighterAce… so there ya go..

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 5, 2009 9:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you create an account with your BE Name on mmaplayground? Or would I look into how I can change your name on bloodyelbow.com? =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah if you want me too, I will create another one just for NC-17

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 5, 2009 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick..

I just made one for NC_-17 so I am sending a request now

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 5, 2009 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

OK

As far as I’m concerned, those that don’t bet their whole stack on each card is a coward. I’ve got a $400 parlay in addition to my fighter bets.

Challenge extended.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions  

$400 parlay on Stojnioc, Luigi and Emerson pays $62,748 :0

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Good luck with all that.

Did you know we are in high demand, Laura?

by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 5, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

You have some brass ones, man.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 5, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

My actual parlay that is not – but play with the figures, it’s fun

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Luigi and Emerson aren’t awful picks.

by MMAEruption on Feb 5, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Emerson maaaaaaaybe, but Luigi’s going down in a heap.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Requested invitation.

Same username as here.

by IHateMMA on Feb 5, 2009 8:13 PM EST reply actions  

so how does the odds work here?

http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/

by Anton Tabuena on Feb 5, 2009 8:29 PM EST reply actions  

They’re on the site – calculates what you’ll win automatically as you enter it
When is the cutoff?

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 5, 2009 8:30 PM EST up reply actions  

so we wont use the fantasy picks thing?

thats kind of like a different game right? or do you win cash there that adds to the total too?

http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/

by Anton Tabuena on Feb 5, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

We’re playing both… fantasy picks and fantasy wagers. The only thing to note is… if you lose all of your $1000, it’s gone until the next season.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions  

The cutoff is on the site… says 1 day 17 hours from now.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 5, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

just requested an invite. how long does it take? :)

by bdw on Feb 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

So far ~20 of us are signed up. Keep the requests coming. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 6, 2009 9:23 AM EST reply actions  

Im in thanks for the invite BE; keep the games going!

by Cableguy on Feb 6, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions  

Ok im kinda lost her guys.. I set up my account, now do i go search through fight camps?

by asmiley420 on Feb 6, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

Ok. I signed up with the same username but didn’t see how to join team.

by Wookalarman on Feb 6, 2009 12:50 PM EST reply actions  

Ok

I think I did it right. Let me know.

by Wookalarman on Feb 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

I have requests from ufc4, klown and jondundas.

Is that anyone from here? Let me know.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 6, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

The MW Champ is in!

Sorry, had to milk that one at least once..

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Feb 6, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions  

Just requested an invite. Same username.

by JoshEngleman34 on Feb 6, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions  

I'll miss the simplicity of the old game

though I can understand the need for efficiency. I requested and invite.

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Feb 6, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions  

I must say Nick, I created my NC-17 profile, and they deleted both of my profiles. So we’ll see if I can get back in.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 6, 2009 4:55 PM EST reply actions  

They don’t let you have two accounts. Perhaps you can get them to reinstate one if you talk to a mod.

by szucconi on Feb 6, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure they will… let me know if you want me to contact them.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 6, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

That'd

Be perfect, because I cant log in to talk to anybody over there.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 7, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright email sent. I’ll let you know when I hear back from them.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You

are the man Nick. Thanks a lot! :)

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 7, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

need an invite for rearnakedpoke as joke was taken.

by rearnakedjoke on Feb 6, 2009 6:43 PM EST reply actions  

UFC Fantasy

Do any of you play on UFC Fantasy?

by Wookalarman on Feb 7, 2009 8:57 AM EST reply actions  

UFC Fantasy doesn’t have wagers though right? Betting with fake money?

There’s 34 of us on mmaplayground so far.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

I play UFC fantasy too – no money but points. Actually placed a few UFC’s back and got a bunch of free swag from them. I’d pick in a group there too if we wanted to set one up.

by Shack on Feb 7, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

$200 on Stephens
$300 on Emerson
$500 on Riddle

Hopefully this works out.

Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions  

I’m so on there, just letting everyone know in advance who is going to be in the lead.

Da ist keine Stelle, die dich nicht sieht.

by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 7, 2009 3:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick

i bet a $1000 on tonights event, but on the team site it shows me having a bankroll of $500. why?

by bdw on Feb 7, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m sure whatever you picked on the fantasy wagers page is that one that matters.

All choices are locked in for tonight…. good luck guys =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s at $1000 now. good luck to everyone else.

by bdw on Feb 7, 2009 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Just as I’m getting the hang of betting, you go and make it more complicated…
Invite sent, same name & pic.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 7, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Ok invites sent to both of you guys. The picks and wagers are already locked for tonight though…

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 5:17 PM EST reply actions  

looks like because of that I'm getting this error message.

“Camp roster actions may not be made in the first 48 hours after a primary league event has taken place.”

That sucks cause I’ve got a feeling that Cain has a decent chance of going down and believe that is the best pick of the night relative to the odds.

by !claw on Feb 7, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you just missed the the cutoff… till 48 hours then.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

yep i got the same message, no picks for me on this one then

by littlenicky2355 on Feb 7, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

requested invite same username

by Harry Triangle on Feb 7, 2009 8:35 PM EST reply actions  

invite sent… though I don’t think you can join until 48 hours… because it’s past the event time.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 7, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Nick, I need some help

Ok, so J-Lau, Pellegrino and Velasquez all win, just like my parlay says, and not only does it say it didn’t win, it’s like it refunded the $400 to me (otherwise I’d be at $940 instead of $1340). As it stands, I should be at $1750, that’s what the site told me the max was when I placed them and I didn’t miss a fight.

Please advise.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 8, 2009 12:58 AM EST reply actions  

does parlay have to be 3 fights? cause i bet on 2.

[parlay wager] $100 D. Miller C. Velasquez

and the result is just -$0

It said before the fight that i would earn a couple of bucks here, but all it did was refund my cash.

http://weoweoweo.deviantart.com/

by Anton Tabuena on Feb 8, 2009 2:23 AM EST reply actions  

That happened to me too.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 8, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions  

From the forums:

STATS NOT DONE OR OFFICAL , WILL HAVE TO BE FIXED BY THE PROGRAMMER

The fight camp rankings won’t be updated yet, The parleys have not updated yet either. Sorry , but until the programmer gets online their is no more i can do.

Supposedly there were too many members on last night… I think we broke the website. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 9:30 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah...

it’s starting to get better but they don’t have it all the way fixed. With MMAPlayground your best bet is to wait a day or two to go in and look at the results. Stuff gets jacked up for the first 24 hours.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

So if I recall correctly the Bloody Elbow staff is going to pitch in and get the winner of this season a pair of floor seats to UFC 100, right?

by ufc4 on Feb 8, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Points?

I don’t understand the points thing.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Feb 8, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions  

You get points for correct predictions.

For example… here are Tayman’s first couple picks.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Predictions are different than bets?

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Feb 8, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

yeappers…. for the next event, make sure you fill in fantasy picks and fantasy wagers.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I guess I will for fuck’s sake _ – I went 6-0 last night

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 8, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Rosholt and Stephens disappointed me.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Feb 8, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I WIN

I didn’t know about the picks and Beermonster came in with more money. I want an honorary ‘Not Knowing The Rules But Kicking Everyone’s Ass Anyway’ belt.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 8, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

Uh, I only bet 1000, like everyone else. That’s how much I won based on following the rules like everyone else.

by Tim Burke on Feb 8, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

holy crap…. well done! I’ll change it up. =)

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea, if you need to verify it, you can click on my winnings for the event and it shows my bets. I won most of it on a $500 Catone/Lauzon/Tibau parlay.

by Tim Burke on Feb 8, 2009 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Impressive =) Though I don’t think anyone bet more than $500…. all too chicken.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The thing about Playground is you almost never go broke because you get prediction bonuses. Call one fight right, you get some cash back. It’s worth betting your whole roll every event. Another thing is you can only bet half your roll on a parlay.

by Tim Burke on Feb 8, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I just can't...

bring myself to bet my whole bankroll. It goes against everything I’ve ever been taught by my gambling family.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll bet half next time – I was under the impression that $400 was still the maximum. Nice parlay, though – mine was weenier (Cain, Kurt, J-Lau). You are out of your mind for betting against Dan Miller :-)

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 8, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

It was an action play, that’s why I only bet 50. +280 was a great price for Rosholt there. The other thing about playground is the true odds are rarely represented, so playing the variance pays off sometimes.

by Tim Burke on Feb 8, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet...

550 so that’s over 500! YEAH! (450 on Lauzon, 100 on a 3 fight parlay that I lost)

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 8, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

ive been using mmaplayground for the last month or so…invite me!!

by baldspot23 on Feb 8, 2009 3:38 PM EST reply actions  

requested an invite

by yngjzy on Feb 8, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I think I should get HW, I tied for most points with tayman and won more money than him.

by ufc4 on Feb 8, 2009 5:09 PM EST reply actions  

Very true. I’ll switch it up.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 5:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Back on Top!!!

I defiantly liked the two different games.
I bet 600 this time, and if Clementi won my cash would have been up to 2100…. darn that would have been fun for next time.

by Tayman on Feb 8, 2009 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

hmm

this website looks like fun.

by virginiatech on Feb 8, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions  

yeah it’s a cool little site… are you guys trying to join still getting the warning “Camp roster actions may not be made in the first 48 hours after a primary league event has taken place.”?

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah

I got that message. I’ll try again on monday I guess.

by virginiatech on Feb 8, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I should’ve paid more attention to the fantasy picks…I got 21 points for 4-5 picks, I think.

"Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream." -- George W. Bush, Oct. 18, 2000

by IHateMMA on Feb 8, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah, me too. I made a few picks before I read that we weren’t supposed to do that and I didn’t get the memo that fantasy picks were kosher.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 8, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

lol sorry guys =) we’ll be doing both My Fantasy Picks and My Fantasy Wagers going forward…

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries. I made it to 11th with a few picks and I only bet $100. I’ll just clean house next time. :-)

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 8, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I just sent a invite in. :)

by bigislandboi808 on Feb 8, 2009 9:32 PM EST reply actions  

Still new to this tho..so it might take some time. lol

by bigislandboi808 on Feb 8, 2009 9:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Invite sent… though I think the majority of people are still getting that 48 hour rule. Let me know when you can join the fight camp.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 8, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I am back in the game… thanks to Nick Thomas!!! He is a beast!!

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 9, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions  

ok guys… you can accept the request now to join. If you haven’t already sent a fight camp invite… send another one.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 9, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions  

that sucks, i would have been top ten in both if it had let me join last time lol

by littlenicky2355 on Feb 9, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions  

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