Quote of the Day: Matt Hughes Says Georges St Pierre "Felt Greasy"
by Kid Nate on Feb 3, 2009 6:09 PM EST
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I was also surprised by the final match, I thought BJ would have put on a better performance. BJ Penn is coming from a lighter weight class, but he took the fight at 170. That’s the bottom line. I knew it was going to come down to who had the better cardio and even at the end of the first round BJ looked tired. Now, on to what everybody is talking about, the greasing. I’m not the only one who has said that GSP felt greasy during a fight. I know Matt Serra has mentioned it and, even in their first fight, I think BJ said something. I’m not saying GSP did something wrong and I’m not saying that it would have changed any outcomes of any fights; but what I am saying is, for my last two fights against Georges, he felt greasy.
From Matt Hughes' blog.
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“For my last two fights”? Why not the one where you won, too?
I’m Hughes’ biggest fan but this is bunk.
Since he slapped a submission on him and took him down, it would be pretty wild if GSP was greased for that one.
Maybe GSP improved dramatically in many ways, including adding the grease after the first fight.
So Nate kid, are calling GSP a greaser?
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 3, 2009 6:54 PM EST up reply actions
Stirring the pot
Come on Kid Nate- the whole blogosphere is beating this thing to death and you have shown to be one of the biggest pot stirrer’s around on this issue. Do you really have a point to this? Extreme dislike for GSP?
by Harrymanback1 on Feb 3, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I love GSP he’s one of my favorite fighters but I think its bullshit to grease yourself up before or during an MMA match.
And if multiple opponents are willing to publicly say they suspected him of greasing, that’s pretty damn relevant.
I guess you are calling him a greaser. Thanks for that answer.
by xFenixKnightx on Feb 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
here come the termites
i love gsp too and agree that it’s wrong to grease yourself or do anything that is basically cheating. however, re: hughs and everyone else who are now crawling out of the woodwork suddenly proclaiming gsp felt greasy, i think it’s pretty convenient to do it now and pretty much bs.
if their camp or corners really had an issue w/ gsp then it should have been mentioned and protested AT THE TIME OF THE FIGHT, NOT HOWEVER MANY YEARS LATER WHEN SUDDENLY IT’S SUPPOSEDLY AN ISSUE.
all i will say is that gsp’s corner certainly was wrong to do what they did, however, from the looks of the videos, gsp himself doesn’t even seem to realize or notice that it’s happening and from listening to him for all these years, he seems like the last guy who would ever want to have any type of controversy or asterisks surrounding his performances.
i say gsp says, let’s do it again, to hughes, to penn, to mayhem and any other termites who smell wood.
by theflyingtsunami on Feb 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Mayhem must have been in on it back in 2005
Serra told BJ’s camp before the fight, Sherk mentioned it at the time of the fight, all these dudes must have had a pretty damn good long term plan to mess with GSP.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
I agree that it’s BS to grease yourself up before a match however did you ever consider that all of these fighters that have come out of the woodwork to state claims of George’s “greasiness” might have a serious axe to grind? Every one of the fighters that have made these statements got their ass handed to them- some in a pretty embarrassing beat down unlike they’ve ever experienced before. Now that GSP is the top of the heap by a landslide it seems like it’s the equivalent of schoolyard antics. You hate that kid in class who’s the captain of the football team, gets all the chicks, and god-dammit he’s a nice fucker too. You want to break him down every chance you get just to make yourself feel better.
To give credibility to the statements by these other fighters is the same as believing GSP if he were to say that he saw Matt Hughes come out of the can at the arena with a steroid needle in his leg. Really? How the fuck would you ever prove that? See the similarity? (Yes I know UFC 94 they “caught” him on camera but what about all of his other opponents?)
This post at CagePotato explains my feelings in a much better way than I could. Things have been blown out of proportion. http://www.cagepotato.com/it-had-happen-matt-hughes-says-gsp-E2809Cfelt-greasyE2809D
by Harrymanback1 on Feb 3, 2009 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
I like Mayhem Miller’s response when accused of being a sore loser: " Naw man, I probably would’ve had my ass beat anyways, but its true, unless he sweats crisco."
This isn’t about sore losers, this is about making a big enough of a stink that GSP and Jackson never do this again.
noone said it's about sore losers
kid, again, i agree- make an issue of it now so that it doesn’t happen again w/ gsp’s corner. but for these other fighters to NOW say this stuff, is wrong in my opinion b/c if it was that much of an issue when they fought gsp, they should have “made a stink” about it then, not just chime in about gsp’s crisco sweat w/ the bandwagon.
by theflyingtsunami on Feb 4, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions
Hey Look! Hughes found a way to get mentioned on an MMA blog!
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
by Warhand on Feb 3, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Ok, maybe Hughes is full of shit, but Hughes and Serra agree on something. That is a change of pace. Maybe he is just piling on, but he is not one to make excuses. Miller, Hughes, Serra, Sherk, Penn, am I forgeting anyone?
Thats a LOT of fighters saying the same thing. Its a shame that it takes away from such a dominant victory and an epic moment but it is something that should be talked about.
Yeah, the fourteen other guys GSP has beaten.
I’m literally wearing a Matt Hughes t-shirt right now and I’m calling BS on this. Hughes is a natural pot-stirrer that will say anything to get a rise out of people. No other reason to explain stuff like going up to Joe Riggs’ wife and telling her how he beat her husband up.
Still my favorite fighter ever, though.
Matt Hughes
All class.
Eternally.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Feb 3, 2009 6:20 PM EST reply actions
Hughes, Serra, Miller, Penn, and Sherk all accuse him of being greasy.
Where is Kos and Fitch with their comments?
Mass amnesia? Did everybody forget the video and the testimony of Keith Kizer head of the NSAC from just two days ago?
Did we or did we not see it with our own eyes and have GSP’s own corner admit to applying Vaseline to his body?
Now we have other fighters including Mayhem who made the claim in Fight magazine years ago, Sherk made the claim just days after his fight with GSP, Serra warned BJ’s camp before the fight that GSP was slick in his fight, and now Hughes who was one of the greatest UFC champions of all time makes the claim and people are calling bullshit?
Human nature is a funny thing, but to watch it in this case is very disappointing.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 6:34 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tomorrow's Quote of the Day
Koscheck: ‘You know, now that I look back at it, the reason I couldn’t take GSP down was because he felt a little greasy. I just couldnt hold on to him to get that double. Yeah, thats the reason…. ’
I take it that you believe that GSP didn’t have Vaseline applied to him in between rds1 and 2 of the BJ fight?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Literally rolling eyes.....
Matt Hughes relishes any opportunity to put somebody down, especially GSP. Matt is just like that- he loves to press buttons.
Notice how he mentioned that the last two times he fought GSP he thought he was greasy. I guess the first time they fought that wasn’t the case?
As well- GSP wasn’t even training with Team Jackson the 2nd time he fought Hughes. None of this adds up. It’s crap and Hughes is just jumping on the bandwagon to trash the fighter who owned him twice.
So, no fighter who claims that GSP was greasy, slick, or oiled up is believable. Chuck Liddel is untrustworthy cuz GSP may move up in weight. The video of the vaseline applied to GSP’s torso has been tampered with, Dana, Greg Jackson, Phil Nurse, Keith Kizer, the commission guys in the ring are all in collusion with Mayhem Miller for his new comedy show.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
They’re all in cahoots! Maybe all the welterweights who have fought GSP and lost will claim that he was greased up for their fight and get hope GSP is booted out of the division or the UFC itself. Then all these fighters who no longer have relevance in the division will regain contention again.
Video of Matt Hughes and Sean Sherk laughing together after Serra TKO’d GSP. I am certain he has absolutely no ulterior motive at all in this…
Pretty strong accusations against Hughes, calling him a liar. Did you see Vasline being applied to GSP’s body, or am I the only one?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t accuse Matt Hughes of anything other than being someone who has a vested interest in seeing GSP’s wins tainted. Which he is.
And no, I did not see any Vaseline being applied to GSP in the Hughes fight. Do you have access to some secret hidden tape for that fight? Matt Hughes comments are about his fights with GSP, and he is making no accusations, just comments.
OK, why would Greg Jackson and Phil Nurse make up the fact that they applied Vaseline to GSP’s upper body?
Just comments?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think they were asked. This last fight just happened and, in case you missed it, the commission was all over their case because they had been given a heads up and were watching. They saw it being applied in between rds 1 and 2, and had to physically intervene between rds 2 and 3 and then again between rds 3 and 4.
And after all that, you are willing to call all these other fighters who made these claims liars?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
You seem pretty emotional over this whole GSP/cheater/vaseline thing. Did you happen to lose a ton of money betting on BJ Penn? Or maybe you were one of the investors trying to get people to pre-order the soon to made DVD “90 Days” chronicling BJ’s training camp leading up to and including the fight they thought he would win. I was at the fight and there were people (obviously working with/for Penn) handing out flyers so that you could pre-order the DVD. I guess since that investment isn’t going to pan out, I can see why some people would want to stir up controversy and interest in GSP / Penn III.
I’m a fan of sports in general and MMA in particular. Any unfair advantage taken by any fighter should be stood up against. The individual fighters personalities should have no bearing on that point.
I am pretty surprised at the lengths that people have gone to sweep this under the rug, why is it OK to have Vaseline applied to your body before an MMA fight? Do you think that it should be legal to grease up before a round n the Octagon?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions
Of course excessive greasing up before a round is not legal and is in violation of the rules. What we saw here was not excessive but minimal, unintentional and addressed by the NSAC to the best of their ability during the fight. We need to let it go. This only negatively impacts both BJ Penn’s and GSP’s reputation.
Maybe you could let the NSAC can speak for themselves
Kizer said he felt an "avoidable incident" has cast a negative cloud on arguably the biggest night in the sport’s history.
"I think it definitely hurts St. Pierre a little bit because people will always wonder if it had any impact or not," he said.
"I don’t think it had much of one, but it shouldn’t have happened at all. Obviously it’s illegal and definitely unfortunate to Penn and also unfortunate to St. Pierre."
http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/feb/03/grease-gate-clouds-st-pierres-dominant-win/
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
You need to ask this 7 or 8 more times.....??
“Did you see Vasline being applied to GSP’s body, or am I the only one?”
Guess you didnt hear Keith Kizer say " we WIPED DOWN GSP VERY, VERY HARD after round 2 and round 3"???
Get over it. People’s ego’s cant take it that GSP is such a dominate athlete who makes you look like an amateur when fighting against
Kizer stated that what was done was illegal
This has nothing to do with the outcomes, who has been saying that other than people who support greasing?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
They did not wipe him down after rd 1. Don’t forget that important fact.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone have a quote of Serra or Sherk accusing GSP of greasing? I’ve seen people reference them, but never an actual quote.
doesn't matter apparently
…because there’s a video of Nurse rubbing GSP’s back. It’s all there, ask dualdiagnosis about it.
The biggest evidence that makes Hughes look like a liar is that both of his last two fights went less than two full rounds, and in each fight GSP made Hughes his bitch in the first round. Unless his corner somehow lubed him up in between the officials checking him during the walk out, and GSP actually entering the cage, he had nothing on him when he tooled Hughes in those first rounds.
"I told them I was disappointed and that they may have tainted Mr. St. Pierre’s victory," he said. "I told them if it happens again, it will probably be the last time they work a corner in Nevada. Basically, they said, ‘Look, we’re sorry. We’re not trying to do anything. It was an accident.’ Whether it was intentional or not, I don’t know. It was improper."
keith kizer
Keith isnt going to make a big deal over nothing
It Had to Happen: Matt Hughes Says GSP "Felt Greasy"
(‘An opportunity to criticize GSP, you say? Count me in!’)
Well, LubeGate has officially run the gauntlet. Matt Hughes is the latest former opponent of Georges St. Pierre to add fuel the greasy fire. In a blog post to his website today, Hughes had this to say:
Weird, he felt greasy in those last two fights? As in, the two that Hughes lost? Interesting.
Having more opponents jump on this bandwagon doesn’t help GSP’s case any, but what I’m wondering is, if he’s been greasing himself up for years why hasn’t he been caught before now? The boys from the NSAC jumped all over him when they saw it at UFC 94. How has he managed to apply Vaseline to his body in front of cameras and athletic commission observers for so long? Is he taking a Vaseline supplement that makes it come out of his pores?
Via [Cage Potato], the #1 MMA website. Dont worry BE you’re number 2. :)
LOL sooo true, especially after Hughes left the Fitch fight saying after the 3rd round GSP looked like shit lmfao, the more this ass clown talks the more he makes him-slef look like the moron he is, i dunno whos more full of shit BJ or Hughes?!?!? Y dont we hear Fitch saying GSP was “greased” b/c Fitch takes his losses like a real man and most importantly b/c GSP doest grease, all u haters so mad BJ got his ass woopped for the very 1st time & it looked so good on him……. y isnt the man who had the most to lsoe from this BS “vaseline” story not the one comming out and saying GSP was greasy? b/c he wasnt thats y…….and if he was then ur telling me with everyone saying that GSP had that much “grease” on thats y BJ’s legs slipped, then y didnt BJ notice all of that grease on him?!?! WEIRD sint it….. especially since everyone seems to be saying GSP greased in theor losses but not in their wins hahahahaha BUSTED!!!
BJ noticed the grease and told the commission guy between rounds.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 4, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
Why is GSP staying silent
If I didnt do anything I would certanly be defending myself why has GSP not opened his mouth about this yet.
Is he afraid to put his foot in his mouth or what
by WhiteyBarrington on Feb 3, 2009 9:25 PM EST reply actions
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/mma/02/02/georges.st.pierre.qa/index.html?eref=T1
For GSPs response Whitey.
GSP doesn’t address it other than saying- “They used a towel to wet my back and wipe it off. I don’t mind. I didn’t put Vaseline on myself…”
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
GSP....
Look, there is video showing that vaseline was put on GSP, thats clear. What’s not clear is how much. Phil Nurse has the vaseline on the back of the left hand, he uses his right hand to apply the vaseline on the face. Obviously he then uses both hands to massage his face and temples, meaning some vaseline probably got on the fingers/palms of his left hand. He then massaged GSP’s back while tapping his chest, which he always does for every fight. I don’t think, and this is just my opinion, that it was a lot of vaseline because they can only use a small amount on the face to begin with. He never re-applied vaseline before massaging his back. I write this because I don’t think this was done intentionally, just a really dumb mistake! There should be a fine on Phil Nurse, but to taint GSP’s performance because of a mistake is wrong. In fact, in the forth and final round, GSP took Penn down quickly in the round and used his weight on top of Penn to gas him. As for Hughes, here is the end of the first round between them in their last fight., notice what Phil Nurse does first, he massages his back, and he was not applying the vaseline for the end of that round, it’s just their routine for every fight!!! Sorry for the long post everyone, I just don’t get the chance to come on here to respond to posts!!!
Kizer makes this clear-
Kizer said he felt an "avoidable incident" has cast a negative cloud on arguably the biggest night in the sport’s history.
"I think it definitely hurts St. Pierre a little bit because people will always wonder if it had any impact or not," he said.
"I don’t think it had much of one, but it shouldn’t have happened at all. Obviously it’s illegal and definitely unfortunate to Penn and also unfortunate to St. Pierre."
http://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/feb/03/grease-gate-clouds-st-pierres-dominant-win/
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 3, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I am not going to say Hughes is lying, but he wrote a book about his life and entire career, and NEVER mentioned it?
He thought GSP was greasy in the second fight, but never mentioned it. Then again in the third?
WOULD YOU NOT SAY SOMETHING IF YOU THOUGHT THE GUY CHEATED TWICE??
look at the amount of abuse B.J. is getting for making a complaint when the commission came out and said that what GSP’s corner did was illegal and they were caught on tape.
With no supporting evidence Hughes would’ve been crucified.
But that’s the thing, other than this fight with BJ which looks completely accidental, I haven’t seen any evidence in any previous fights. I’ve watched video of both Hughes fights, and they obviously don’t show all of what happens in the corner, but there was no evidence there. I also watched the Serra fight, the second one, and again saw nothing. Im not going to say absolutely nothing happened, but again in my opinion I think this was a random mistake and completely accidental. It’s hard to get away with this when there are so many people and cameras everywhere in the fight’s in question. If it was caught on tape in this fight, there should be evidence, visual evidence from the other fights, or atleast first hand accounts from the state commission or anyone in attendencel, I haven’t seen that anywhere yet and it’s hard for me to buy into to that again with all the cameras and people that are there watching every move in the octogon!
I disagree.
BJ set a very accrimoanious tone for this fight. His comments were harsh and even borderline offensive. He made this a polarizing bout. He repeatedly questioned his heart and his integrity, He repeatedly talked about the first fight…he did not lose, it would not have been close if he had been in better shape…things of that nature.
Whether or not it was all said for publicity or not is up for debate. But there were plenty of folks that went into this fight with an intense dislike for Penn, seeing him as been a lazy, whiny ass.
So it should not come as a shock that many are railing on Penn. He set the tone for this. Personally, I can’t help but think, give the nature of their personalities, that Lindland (who cornered Penn) and BJ would have said plenty the first time around if they thought GSP was cheating. BJ has a very hard time losing and has come up with reasons in the past.
Somebody needs to go back through the tapes that Zuffa has and look for past problems. GSP’s entire career is now being called into question and he has no way to defend himself regarding these past bouts.
I can’t see Hughes going into the third bout and not saying anything to anyone if he really thought GSP had been cheating the first time around.
Jason Miller is playing the name game, with an article that hints it is GSP, but he refuses to actually name him. Folks are spreading the peice and attaching GSP’s name to it, but Miller has avoided confirming or denying it.
Everything that was in place for this bout: SAC officials, UFC fighters, were in place for his previous bouts. Why did nobody see anything?
I am not saying none of this happened, just that it is a questionable way for it all to come to light.
Nate, you clearly think it was intentional and that he has been cheating for years.
I have too many quesitons to buy into that at this time. Looking at the footage, it does not look intentional to me.
GSP would have to have told his cornermen to do it since the allegations go back to before Jackson worked with him.
These fighters should be called in to speak with the NSAC, they should officially discuss this and the Zuffa footage should be looked at.
One more thing.
GSP has long been considered a class act by fans and Pros alike.
How is it that no rumors have previously circulated within the MMA community?
You have plenty of fighters and commentators singing his praises and calling him a fine person. Most of the time when there are issues with a fighter, rumors circulate.
Mayhem wrote about years ago, Sherk mentioned it right after his bout with GSP, Serra gave the BJ camp a heads up to watch for it based on his fight with GSP- is that what you were looking for?
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 4, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
Both GSP’s and Thiago’s fans will have a lot of ammunition for internet shit talking in the run up to their fight.
I wonder if the various MMA internet-radio personalities will make Vaseline gate a topic when they discuss GSP’s next few fights.
oh hell yeah they better
A strong public denunciation is the only way to keep him from pulling this crap again. Let the punishment fit the crime. GSP will henceforth be under a cloud.
yup
Its not that harsh of a punishment. If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
The only thing I care about is fighters not greasing in MMA. It fucking ruins fights.
Dude, you’ve come to a conclusion on something you don’t know shit about. You think that GSP should be punished for someone else’s mistake? Your eagerness to burn the guy betrays any sense of objectivity you might have been trying to hold.
Why not stick to what you know. GSP had some vaseline on him during the fight. We don’t know whether or not it was intentional, we don’t know whether or not it made a big difference in the fight (probably not), we don’t know if he greased against any of these other guys.
This whole thing is a great excuse for people to dust off their pitchforks and indulge in a good lynching because they love the self-righteous juice they get off on when they indulge in it. But bottom line is, not very many people know more than a few small facts (GSP got some grease on him in between one of the rounds and they tried to repeatedly wipe it off). Everything above that is conjecture.
As for Hughes, he barely touched GSP in both of his fights aside from patting him on the back in between rounds.
Funny how Matt Highes & Serra only talk about the times they lost when GSP “was greased” lmfao 2 classless morons again proving their idiots. Hughes the last 2 times I fought GSP he was “greased” but not the 1st time?!?! lmfao comeon u idiots!!!! Whats funny is that the vaseline if there was any on him was claerly wipped off for 3 rounds, and the amount that is shown in the clips isnt even enough to put on my lips, let alone make Bj’s legs slip that much, its called sweat!!!!
Also, if u look @ thos vids again a few of them u will see that BJ’s legs slide on the side of GSP’s back, as well as there are a couple with BJ’s legs are so loose and has a very lazy high guard in those vids, another couple vids also show BJ’s laft leg/foot on top of GSP’s right shoulder and slides down the side of his back (where there was no vaseline applied, hummm weird)as the BJ’s left leg slids down u will see that his right foot isnt even wrapped around his left foot, until his feet meet @ the bottom of GSP’s back. Proof is in the pooding, to say otherwise is jsut jealous/sore loser/sour grapes.
So y havnt we heard from BJ yet?!? if he thinks GSP used “vaseline” it would of been all over BJ and he would of told his corner and then it would have been inspected, but the only time they mention the “vaseline” is after he had to quit b/c of the beat down he received. If BJ really thought GSP was a cheater he would of said somethign by now, & all of u BJ fans know it!!!! Grow up, if not then lets see a 3rd fight, I’m sure GSP will have no problem pounding the shit out of BJ again!!!
All of your exclamation points aren't helping with the facts you're spouting.
1- BJ complained to the commission guy in his corner between rounds that GSP felt slippery.
“I found out this morning — I talked with another inspector of mine — he said that apparently B.J. Penn had complained to the inspector in his corner after either the first or second round that he though maybe Georges was a little slippery,” Kizer said.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/13895/kizer-penn-yet-to-file-ufc-94-appeal-st-pierres-corner-could-face-action.mma
2- GSP was greased and noone wiped it off after the 1st round-
"The first round, one of the inspectors that was on the outside of the cage came over to me and said it looked to him that when the cornerman, who I think in that case was Phil Nurse, put the Vaseline on Georges’ face then rubbed his shoulders — which you see the guys rubbing the other guy’s shoulders to help him out — he didn’t wipe off his hands between doing that. I said, ‘Well, I’m going to watch very closely after this round.’
Kizer watched intently to see if the questionable actions would be repeated as the second round came to a close.
“At the end of the second round I watched, and then another cornerman who I believe was Greg Jackson, he put the Vaseline on Georges’ face, and then he put his hand on his back to do the breathing thing they always do,” Kizer said. "As soon as I saw that, it looked like there was still some Vaseline on his hand. Not a lot, but still some.
“Tony Liano and I immediately yelled at him, and I don’t think he heard us because of the noise. So I actually went into the octagon, and I said, ‘Take your hand off of his back. What are you doing?’ We wiped it down. We made sure it was wiped down after the third round as well. This was after the second when I was in there. I was very upset. I don’t know if they were doing it intentionally or not. Either way, they shouldn’t have done it.”
http://mmajunkie.com/news/13895/kizer-penn-yet-to-file-ufc-94-appeal-st-pierres-corner-could-face-action.mma
Funny how adamant you are about things that you really have no idea about.
by dualdiagnosis on Feb 4, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
he is a greaser
its not a question.he did cheat.he got busted.danas trying to make light of it.my freind called it the night of the fight.
Hughes..???
I’m sorry but I dought Hughes’s claims. He waits till now to tel his story yet made no mention of it prior to their 3rd fight (to the commission, or UFC management). He then waits days after the Penn/GSP 2 fight to speak up. Matt has always been one of my favorite fightes but this seems to be stirring the pot.
As for Miller, he has nothing to lose by stating this now or in the past. For him, it justified his lose then and now. Serra, well I don’t recall him even trying the rubber or a high gaurd. He just kepth turtling up and then spinning around hoping to land a sub.
Yes, I am a GSP fan, but I agree that he had vaseling rubbed on his shoulders, chest, & the middle of his back by Nurse between rnd 1 & 2. As for rnds 2 & 3, the video cuts away then cuts back with the inspector wiping GSP. Was that the only wipe down at that point who knows, but “we” should let the NSAC and UFC management handle this. “We” are but mere fans with no inside knowledge nor real “power” to affect the outcome of this situation.
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