Nick Thompson Signs With Strikeforce, Also To Compete in Sengoku WW GP
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 6:35 PM EST
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MMAWeekly reports Nick Thompson was pickued up by Strikeforce:
The list of fighters moving from EliteXC to Strikeforce continues to grow. MMAWeekly Radio on Tuesday night confirmed that Top 10 welterweight Nick Thompson has signed on with the promotion and could fight as early as their April 11 event on Showtime.
"They just called me today and they're going to pick me up," Thompson said about Strikeforce. "So I am now with Sengoku and Strikeforce."
The San Jose, Calif., based promotion is filling up the April card quickly for its Showtime debut, but they are also expected to field a show in May in Washington that could feature names like Robbie Lawler and Phil Baroni. Thompson said following a recent win over Paul Daley, he's ready for whatever.
"They asked me how soon I would want to fight, and I said throw me in the frying pan, let's go," he commented.
He also has plans on entering and winning the Sengoku WW GP later this year:
Not to forget his other contractual obligation, Thompson is also hoping for a return to Japan's Sengoku organization later this year, but as he's found out in the past, he may not get an opponent until it's almost fight time. Still, the Minnesota native has heard about a tournament the promotion will put on and has every intention of participating.
"I know they're planning on doing a welterweight tournament sometime this year and I'm planning on winning it," he said about Sengoku.
Although Thompson is coming off a great performance against Paul Daley and could have set up a Ryan Ford or Pat Healy championship bout with the MFC, this should be a welcomed pickup for Strikeforce and MMA fans. If Thompson does well in Japan, like Eddie Alvarez, he could jump up in the rankings and set up a rematch with Jake Shields, although Jake defeated him in a one sided manner last year. As most remember, Jake Shields defeated Mike Pyle, Nick Thompson, and Paul Daley in EliteXC to jump the top 5 ranked WWs in the world. With the addition of Phil Baroni to the WW class, the once non existent Strikeforce class is starting to come together nicely to create some exciting bouts.
Nick Thompson has only lost twice in the past 3 years, to Karo Parisyan and Jake Shields, and held a 14-2 record in that span. He has notable victories over Eddie Alvarez, Paul Daley, Josh Neer, Fabricio Monteiro, Mark Weir, and Chris Wilson throughout his career.
Possible Strikeforce Welterweight Roster:
Jake Shields
Nick Thompson
Nick Diaz
Shinya Aoki (DREAM Loan)
Mach Sakurai (DREAM Loan)
Joe Riggs
Duane Ludwig
Phil Baroni
Ross Ebanez
Luke Stewart
Eric Bradley
Brian Schwartz
Lemont Davis
Raymond Daniels
Erik Apple
Mark Miller
Matt Makowski
Mike Stumpf
Lorenzo Borgomeo
Torrance Taylor
Mike Aina
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THE GOAT!
Great signing.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 25, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely, should make that WW class of Strikeforce that much better by signing the goat.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably wasn’t even offered a contract by the UFC.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And I’m not even going to bother listing ten WW’s that beat Thompson.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If the UFC did sign Thompson, you’d be slobbing all over him and reiterating for the 354th time how they have a lot of good fighters. Seriously, if you’re going to troll, you need to step your game up a bit. Don’t let yourself become so predictable.
by smoogy on Feb 25, 2009 8:09 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The article calls him a top ten welterweight. That’s laughable, wherever he fights.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right that he’s not a top ten welterweight, but I don’t think that’s the point of this FanPost.
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by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t know what you’re talking about. He is 14 on the meta rankings with massively over-ranked guys like Marcus Davis and Swick ahead of him. Having him in the 8-12 range is completely reasonable.
Your whole bi-polar attitude about UFC-Branded MMA vs. Everything Else is fucked up. Stop being such a fanboy.
by smoogy on Feb 25, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
subo’s a bit out of line in this thread, but please try to refrain from making things personal. Thanks.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Davis or Swick would kill Thompson. Once again, I’ll pass on the personal and stick with the facts, and the fact here is the article quoted misrepresents Thompson as a top ten WW in order to make the signing seem like a bigger deal.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Facts Are That MMAWeekly Has Him Ranked In The Top 10
WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)
- Welterweight Fighter in the World: Georges St. Pierre
2. Jon Fitch
3. Thiago Alves
4. Jake Shields
5. Josh Koscheck
6. Matt Hughes
7. Matt Serra
8. Carlos Condit
9. Nick Thompson
10. Mike Swick
Therefore, they didn’t misrepresent anything.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair point. They’re just going by their own in-house rankings.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok. Granted. I’ll move my criticism to ‘misrepresentation’ to ‘shitty rankings.’
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve got Anthony Johnson higher than Nick Thompson.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha…, I don’t think anyone will give your rankings anymore weight than MMAWeekly’s.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On potential. Thompson’s resume is more impressive at this point in time.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woah there..
I don’t know if you’re familiar with The Goat, but he’s at least a top 12 WW. If he’s not, than all rankings should be disregarded. He’s got wins over Chris Wilson, Josh Neer, Eddie Alvarez and Paul Daley. He’s 14-1 in his last 15 fights with his sole loss to Jake Shields. Beyond that, he’s 22-2 in his last 24 fights.
Thompson is the real deal and a major signing by Strikeforce.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 25, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alvarez and Neer aren’t even WWs any more, are they? His win over Neer was in 2005, so if he gets credit for that, he can take the heat for losing to Ed Herman four months before that.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
As opposed to all the top-flight welterweights Anthony Johnson has beaten?
by George Lucas on Feb 25, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you don’t think either one has a great resume, then you go with who you think would win the fight.
by subo on Feb 26, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The difference is that Nick Thompson beats guys who now fight at lightweight while Anthony Johnson gets tapped out by them.
by George Lucas on Feb 26, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be honest
I was just naming fighters you’d most likely have familiarity with. Even so, you can’t argue with a guy going 22-2 in his last 24 fights. That’s essentially a career, and a fuckin great one at that.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Denis Kang. That is my response to that statement.
by subo on Feb 26, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, so now you're writing off Kang too?
This is getting to be too much… Have you seen the list of guys that Kang lost to, other than Belcher (who he was dominating and fucked up), since 2003?
Mousasi
Akiyama
Kaz Misaki
If you want to continue with this vague, baseless argument, you might want to pack a box lunch.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand, who has Denis really beaten during this time period?
- a declining Ninja (5-4 since moving to MW)
- Amar Suloev – fresh off a win over Busta, so pretty decent win but not exactly huge.
- Akihiro Gono – obviously an undersized MW, but he was on many a top ten list at the time.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We had this debate last night in a seperate discussion off this site, but here’s the problem with the logic and EVERYONE should read this.
You can’t say, who did so and so really BEAT, without referring to Time-based rankings. At the time he fought those fighters, they may have been ranked top 10 or at least up and coming. Comparing them to where they are today is always going to show bias, and it doesn’t represent Kang at all.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh? I did refer to where they were then. Gono was on most top ten lists when Kang fought him. Suloev snuck in at the 9-10 spot on a few sites for beating Busta. Apart from that he didn’t beat anyone who was top ten-ranked at the time.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLZ!
Maybe you want to compare their resumes before making stupid remarks.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 1:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you should refer to your original post before you pursue a different line of argument.
You said:
Even so, you can’t argue with a guy going 22-2 in his last 24 fights. That’s essentially a career, and a fuckin great one at that.
In essence, you were implying that his volume of wins and ratio of wins/losses made his career a great one. You did not say, however, that it was the quality of fighters he had beaten that made his career a great one.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's implied
Don’t fabricate arguments. I’ve got my hands full with a legitimate argument, I don’t need ridiculous asides because you think you’re clever with wordplay. Write it in your journal..
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 2:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Be more specific in your arguments so others don’t have to assume what you mean. If you want to make a point, write it out. And I’m sorry, saying someone is 22-2 in their last 24 doesn’t, in any way, imply that they’ve beaten quality fighters during that time period.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:26 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dude
I think Blackout’s argument is pretty solid.
He obviously never argued that winning a bunch of fights against no names makes a career. I think he’s made pretty clear that Thompson has fought some pretty top guys and lost only twice in his past 24 to them.
by rainmaker6 on Feb 26, 2009 4:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This
I even named some of the competition. Reinhardt is a terrible, terrible example. Anyone comparing his competition to that of Thompson (or even requires it) really needs to learn to pick their battles. We’re evaluating great records among fighters that are in major organizations.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Terrible argument, Thompson has a lot of solid wins whereas Reinhardt has nothing but wins against a lot of 0-1 guys. I would know, I’ve seen him fight a majority of them.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Reinhardt, who I actually know, has a huge amount of wins against guys who just stepped into the cage that night. Yeah, he padded his record.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Really? Based on what assessment? Because he has some skill and power punches? He hasn’t beaten anyone yet, but he’s a prospect for sure.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson just outboxed a striker who’s lightyears ahead of both Davis and Swick, so…
by George Lucas on Feb 25, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry.. Lightyears?
This, I don’t agree with. Davis would have a very good chance standing with Daley and Swick’s legs could pose a major problem (he certainly wouldn’t box him in a traditional manner). Daley to me is very streaky and often exhibits a lack of discipline. A guy like Davis would box him defensively and probably do so with great success. And I’m not dumping on him, but I think Daley loses both of those fights.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Davis’ vaunted “pro-boxing” experience looked pretty mediocre against two other brits named Paul who aren’t nearly as good as Daley. It also wasn’t too impressive against noted striker Chris Lytle.
Swick’s length, cardio and grappling ability would be trouble for Daley, but on the other hand Daley hits (and kicks) a lot harder and more accurately.
by George Lucas on Feb 26, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You were speaking strictly in terms of striking, but I gotta believe Swick would keep him out of his reach and shoot. Daley simply looks confused on the mat a lot of times. Davis could do much of the same, with taking him down. But as far as his overrated boxing skills, neither of the Paul’s (both submitted) nor Lytle were able to emerge victorious, so he was doing something right. He’s got a good chin and may be too old to gas himself going for the kill with strikes. He’s a pretty smart fighter and doesn’t get a lot of credit for it.
Honestly, I’m not a big fan of any of the three guys we’re discussing. Just my take on the matter..
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
...but I do love The Goat
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree as well. As good as Paul Daley is, he doesn’t show a tendency at quick boxing. He’s a powerful kickboxer with some Muay Thai mixed in, and he has the timing skills to catch guys, but I think Davis might be able to outbox him.
I don’t like Swick, and I’m biased in that argument, but I think Daley could give him trouble.
And how does Swick suddenly have all this skill? Cardio, grappling, length? Yeah, he has the range, but he rarely grapples, and frankly, he isn’t that great on the floor and his cardio isn’t that great either. KOing Goulet doesn’t make you unbelievable.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Swick, Johnson and Davis have all been pumped up to absurd levels based on fluffy wins and easy knockouts.
by smoogy on Feb 26, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's that and...
A lot of the fans posting don’t watch Daley regularly. The guy has improved immensely on the ground, and he’s only going to get better.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was pretty impressed with his Daley against Shields. I didn’t expect him to stop nearly as many shots as he did and was dumbfounded when Shields had him mounted and couldn’t finish until more than halfway into the second.
And the Swick love is outta control. It seems like knocking out Jonathon Goulet, which an errant gust of wind from a passing car can do, suddenly absolves one of looking like he did against Burkman and Davis.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 26, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Goulet knockout...
Made me realize how ridiculous casual fans can be. I mean, he knocked out the “Glass Joe” of MMA. Big deal. Fans made it seem like he just KO’d someone like Jon Fitch or Marcus Davis in a heartbeat.
Daley wasn’t bad against Shields, but the Alessio bout was pretty impressive. He used his overall power advantage to tire Alessio during the takedowns, and it ultimately worked. Thompson was much smarter, but he had some problems early. Daley ended up gassing though, another problem he needs to address.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually haven’t seen his fight against Alessio, so I’ll take your word on it.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 26, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry...
But my take on Swick is that he lost a lot of his cardio when coming down in weight. Glass Goulet was more of an exhibition that his strength and conditioning are finally catching up. Not much of a Swick fan, but he’s fun to watch and makes his living catching guys (which will result in him being caught more than a few times in his career).
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m saying that it was good that he knocked out Goulet. Not shitting my pants over it, but it showed that he’s getting his conditioning back and he looked strong.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know… I mean, that fight went what… half a round? And as for power, Goulet’s light switches off with the right punch, so I’m not going to say he’s improved just yet.
Another cut and a better fight would prove it. If he can do well against another decent mid level fighter, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 27, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The same Swick who has decisioned 4 out of his last 5 fights? If he can KO more people than just Goulet, then I may change my mind of him being fun to watch and catching guys.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 26, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe read the rest of what I said
Before adding your two cents. He lost a lot of conditioning when he went down. You obviously overlooked that in your haste to disregard the credibility of a Zuffa fighter.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. Defensive much?
I said he wasn’t as exciting as some make him out to be with 4/5 last fights being decisions, never questioned his credibility.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 26, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you get a dollar every time you call me defensive?
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Daley will lose to Swick
but beat Davis. Unless Davis takes the fight to the ground…then he’ll win.
by rainmaker6 on Feb 26, 2009 4:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Swick
would definitely take the fight to the ground – as he did against Davis.
Swick is seriously underrated guys. He should probably rank 4th or 5th after Fitch. Definitely beats Karo. Not sure about Condit but i’d give that to Swick too.
by rainmaker6 on Feb 26, 2009 4:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t, not after those suckfest fights. If he was so unreal, he should have demolished Burkman.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In MMA your striking is only as good as your takedown defence, something Paul Daley still lacks.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Daley can be more like Davis and ignore pesky issues like takedown defense by calling anyone who doesn’t stand and bang a pussy.
by George Lucas on Feb 26, 2009 2:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually...
He would probably fare pretty well in doing so. Ha…
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 26, 2009 2:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, if it works he should go for it. Anything is better than watching him get abused on the ground by more or less everyone that takes him down.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know man Davis should really work on his ground game.
by George Lucas on Feb 26, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This joke would work better if Davis ever really got taken down and beaten up.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected. Must watch that fight now. But still, once against Swick isn’t that bad.
Daley’s been LnPed by Luiz Azeredo. That was the worst. Such a frustrating fight to watch when it happened. Even worse is the fact that it was nearly two years ago and it really seems like Daley’s ground game and TD defense has not improved at all in that time.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 2:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did Swick even hit him in the head on any of those punches?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 26, 2009 3:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry...
Swick is one of those guys that has to make me a believer. I truly think he just doesn’t have the talent to be a top guy… ever.
Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com
by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How can you say that? Can’t you see him flail there? Now that is some ground n’ pound!
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 26, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The doggie paddle = underrated attack in MMA
by smoogy on Feb 26, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously…was Davis ever hurt by any of that?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 26, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He probably thought he was being hurt for about 1/2 a second, and then realized what the hell was going on.
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by Leland Roling on Feb 26, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The highly effective fish flop from guard defense against strikes?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 26, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know your gushing over any Japanese-related in MMA is pretty predictable as well.
by Buddha Brown on Feb 26, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What’s your point? This is still a solid pick up for Strikeforce.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose ‘solid’ is a subjective term. All I’m saying is I don’t think there was a bidding war here.
by subo on Feb 25, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s a top 25 guy. I think that’s solid enough. Also, nothing posted above suggests anything about a bidding war or anything similar.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regarded by many as top 15 and would be considered a solid pickup up for any organization.
He will probably be a fovorite to win the Sengoku WW GP as well.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
UFC Already Offered Him A Contract In The Past
1) Since he has fought for them already.
2) UFC CANT offer him a contract now since he is already signed to Sengoku.
Thanks for the comment though.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is a great addition in terms of talent, but with Thompson being so summarily dispatched by Shields this past summer, it’s difficult to take him seriously as a contender to what would, presumably, be Shield’s championship.
But aside from that, I’m all for more Nick Thompson.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 25, 2009 8:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s where the Sengoku WW GP may come in handy!
:)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that will be a great treat for me. I’m very excited about Sengoku on HDNet. Long overdue, I say!
It will be interesting to see who they can get for their tournament. Between the UFC’s division, DREAM’s tournament, and now Strikeforce, it doesn’t seem like there is a whole bunch of unique and high-level talent available.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 25, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
GP’s have a way of creating stars, and I am sure that will be the case this year.
How many people had Eddie Alvarez and Gerard Mousasi ranked in the top 5 last year?
Also, I am sure that Strikeforce and Affliction will probably let some of their fighters fight in these GPs. Strikeforce and EliteXC did it last year.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hold on a minute. Being highly ranked and being a star are two things that can be mutually exclusive.
All you need to do is look at Anderson Silva and/or Fedor Emelianenko. The best fighters in the world, but in terms of star power, they’re pretty far down the line.
At least in Fedor’s case he was somewhat of a star in Japan. Presumably he would be in Russia, though I’m not sure that’s been put to the test. Silva though…
Anyhow, maybe Strikeforce will allow some of their fighters to go to Sengoku. But then, that’s not exactly the unique talent I was talking about, is it? Really, I should have said “exclusive” talent, but what the hell, the ship has sailed, so let’s go with it.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 25, 2009 8:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Sengoku and DREAM always come through with filing up the GP rosters.
Galvao = DREAM
Alession = DREAM
Daley = Sengoku
Thompson = Sengoku
There will be enough names for an 8 man tournament.
I am sure more will be coming soon.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 25, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course they are going to fill up their GP roster, but again, without fighters or a certain level of skill that are unique to the organization, there’s less of an onus on fans to watch the tournament.
If I am going to see the guys fight later on in Strikeforce, for example, then I don’t necessarily need to go out of my way to watch them in Sengoku.
It’s not as big of a deal for me, you understand, but if the roster is fleshed out with UFC wash outs and retreads, it makes for a far less interesting tournament, particularly amongst fans who fall somewhere between the casuals and the hardcores.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 25, 2009 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hmm
Yeh you’re right although your argument is a bit off base.
When the guys above are referring to GPs creating stars they’re talking about people like Mousasi. Mousasi isn’t a star by any means but he’s definitely someone a hardcore mma fan would know.
So yeh – being highly ranked does make you a star within the MMA hardcore fanbase.
by rainmaker6 on Feb 26, 2009 4:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So yeh – being highly ranked does make you a star within the MMA hardcore fanbase.
If you have to qualify someone’s star power as existing only amongst a certain sector of a fanbase, then that person is not a star.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 26, 2009 8:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Aina is rumored for TUF 9 too.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 25, 2009 10:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hes also scheduled to fight on the May Strikeforce card, so it may be safe to believe that he didn’t win it all.
:)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 26, 2009 5:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thompson a top ten WW?, no wonder I haven’t taken mma rankings seriously in a long time what a joke.
by Raker on Feb 26, 2009 12:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
MMA-ELO has him at 9 and FightMatrix has him at 12 and both of those rankings are about as objective as you can get.
by George Lucas on Feb 26, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no but top 15 is likely – rankings are obviously subjective.
by rainmaker6 on Feb 26, 2009 4:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have heard he broke his hand against Daley and will probably be out for the next 4-5 months.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 1:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Really?
Wow, he didn’t mention that at all in the interview.
That would really screw things up for him in the Sengoku WW GP.
Hopefully we will get a clarification on that if true.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 26, 2009 5:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what the MFC guys were saying after his fight with Daley.
by ilostmydog on Feb 26, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm…interesting.
Im sure we will find out soon because Strikeforce wanted to use him on the April or May show.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 26, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see Striekforce pick The Goat up. They are building a respectable roster of fighters over there. I
by Buddha Brown on Feb 26, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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