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The Growing African American Influence In MMA

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Mike Chiappetta has a great article up on ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3928949

Here are several key points of the article:

Before he ever stepped foot inside a gym to train in the sport in which he would become a champion, Rashad Evans was just a fan watching on TV. And in his upstate New York hometown, that made Evans a rarity: a black fan of mixed martial arts.

"For the most part, I was watching it with my white buddies," he said.

 Evans has since become part of a growing influence of blacks on the sport. In December, he became the fifth black fighter to capture a UFC championship (Maurice Smith, Kevin Randleman, Carlos Newton and Quinton "Rampage" Jackson are the others) when he scored a third-round TKO against Forrest Griffin, and he hopes to use his title reign to draw more African-Americans to the sport.

For those who would like to see more racial diversity in MMA, the trend is encouraging. Along with Evans and Jackson, there are a host of other UFC contenders and prospects, including welterweights Anthony Johnson and Josh Koscheck and light heavyweight Jon Jones. In other leagues, there is unbeaten heavyweight Brett Rogers, light heavyweight Muhammed Lawal and welterweight Jay Hieron.

 Most of today's black stars didn't have many African-American fighters to look up to when they started out in the sport. That's no longer the case.

 "Any positive faces we can put out there is a good thing," said Johnson, who at 6-foot-2 is considered a top prospect in the 170-pound division. "Black men get stereotyped as thugs and drug dealers, and that's not what we're about. We're good people that want to be something in life. I'm proud we have guys like Rashad out there doing their thing and making something of themselves, so the young guys have someone positive to look at."

 If Evans and Jackson meet, it would be a historic event: the first time in UFC history that two black fighters square off in a title match. Johnson believes such a showcase would cause many to take notice.

 "It can show a lot of kids that they can be something, no matter what anyone says about them," he said. "It's going to open some doors, and kids will want to follow in their footsteps. They'll see that dreams can come true, and for the right reasons."

 The trend likely was helped by a pair of other factors: the unlikely rise of Kimbo Slice, who was the face of the EliteXC promotion when it aired on CBS, and the series "Iron Ring," which was a surprise hit for the Black Entertainment Television channel in 2008. Although neither Slice nor "Iron Ring" was embraced by the hard-core MMA community, it did introduce the sport to a demographic that rarely was specifically targeted. (A BET spokesperson said no decision has been made about whether a second season of the show will air.)

 All of which means that around the country, young black fans aren't alone when rooting for their favorite MMA fighters, as Evans was years ago.

 "I knew back then black fans would come on board," Evans said. "They didn't know anything about it, and they didn't want to spend money for the pay-per-views not knowing what they'd get. But once they got a taste, I knew black fans, white fans and fans of all colors … everyone was going to love it."

It's kind of funny because I was just talking about this on another post. Evans vs. Jackson would be great for the sport. Nothing against Jardine but I really hope Rampage comes out on top so we can have this matchup. It's a very interesting read. Hit the link to read the full article.

 

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Rashad could go from the first all-TUF winner title fight to the first all-black title fight. I approve – nothing but good can come from this. No, it’s not going to drive Mexico (or most other markets) crazy, but the more kids that see this fight and take up MMA instead of boxing, the better.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 25, 2009 2:51 PM EST reply actions  

And on top of that

It will be at UFC 100. Good stuff!

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 25, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Good. I’m really sick of there being nothing but douchey white frat boys in various MMA tshirts when I on occasion venture to a sports bar for a PPV.

by pumaman on Feb 25, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

Let’s not turn this into that kind of thread. Thx.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 25, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT?!?!?

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Feb 25, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

:P

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 25, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I try to wear my one Obey t-shirt everytime I watch MMA. It’s making me smell bad.

by plastict on Feb 25, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Love It

I’m loving the rise of black MMA stars. Not only does it help give young black youth something to look up to and aspire to be, but it helps MMA shed the “red neck” stigma.

I run a UFC Meetup Group and I think people are always surprised to find out that its run by someone who represents the smallest demographic in MMA fans, black and female!

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by funnytiger on Feb 25, 2009 3:33 PM EST reply actions  

nothing worse than a sausage party, right? ;)

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by funnytiger on Feb 26, 2009 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Chiappetta is one of the best MMA-focused sports writers in media. Every one of this articles is a must read.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 25, 2009 3:37 PM EST reply actions  

ditto…. too many folks sleep on this guy….

Mike Goldberg on robnashville:
"His analysis is so analytical"

by robnashville on Feb 25, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think this is another great think about MMA. Combat transcends race, culture, language… it’s in human nature. Hopefully western society can and will get over the “a white, english speaking fighter must win for me to be happy or to cheer for them” and appreciate a fighter for their skills and actions in and out of the cage.

by pr0cs on Feb 25, 2009 3:57 PM EST reply actions  

Rec'd

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Very good article.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Feb 25, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions  

It is, and thats what I was trying to do. Just get it to more peoples attn. :)

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 26, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh...My...God

You’d think SOMEONE may have already written an article about how huge Jackson/Evans would be in terms of historic nature…

Oh wait….I DID! Back in December no less…

and then I got flamed for it…

The Significance of Quinton Jackson vs. Rashad Evans

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 25, 2009 7:01 PM EST reply actions  

I actually thought I had already read this when I saw the title of it, and now I know why.

by plastict on Feb 25, 2009 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry

I must have missed it.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 25, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait

Clicking on it, no I didn’t. Great piece BTW. I know I didn’t flame you, buddy. :)

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 25, 2009 9:33 PM EST up reply actions  

No need to be sorry...

I’m just saying…I beat ESPN on this one.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 26, 2009 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

No. I’m pretty sure you wrote that today and changed the time stamp…

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by Richard Wade on Feb 25, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You bastards can do that?

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 25, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Um… no?

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by Richard Wade on Feb 26, 2009 1:38 AM EST up reply actions  

i re-read the flaming comments.. and man do i get your frustration there..

As i kept on reading i was getting pissed of on how they can turn it into a really big issue and was already veering away from the actual message of the article.. people calling people racist and a bunch of other insults for something that wasnt even the point of things really pisses me off… and i wasnt even the writer.. haha.

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by Anton Tabuena on Feb 26, 2009 3:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember that article, and I thought it was pretty good.

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by lovingmma25 on Feb 26, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I just notice

Chiapetta is with ESPN.com. It’s about time ESPN stepped up, he actually is one of the few MMA writers that has a strong background about the sport.

by The Bronzeville Bully on Feb 25, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

They Forgot Someone...

But in all seriousness, you could see this angle coming. I remember seeing a similar article on ESPN in December. I think it has a lot more to do with the growth of the sport, and the introduction of UFC on Spike. Also, the majority of the fighters come from an amateur wrestling background if you notice. It doesn’t so much mean that they are attracting a growing African American interest, as it has really just become Collegiate and Olympic wrestling’s answer to the NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.

by Gogo Platter on Feb 26, 2009 3:03 AM EST reply actions  

well its been fun fellow white people, the sun is setting on our dominance in this sport

by #5mmafan on Feb 26, 2009 8:39 AM EST reply actions  

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Feb 26, 2009 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

collectivism

The obsession with group racial identitiy is in and of itself racist. A nasty form of collectivism. Identifying people with similar superficial physical characteristics as groups, implies that all members of that group are alike. Fighters and people, should be viewed as individuals, and recognized the same for their individual liberty and rights and merrit.

This fight is no more historic than two fighters with green eyes fighting for the title. Is there some committee somewhere, that records in a journal every time a person with white skin does something for the first time? Is there another book for every time a person with dark skin does something for the first time? These books must be trillions of pages long. Racists think in terms of groups only. When advocates for diversity, encourage people to think in terms of groups, they actually perpetuate racism.

For those who would like to see more racial diversity in MMA, the trend is encouraging

This is a classic form of what I’m referring to above. There is a certain implication in this statement that racial diversity is exclusive to “more blacks.” It ignores the fact that the sport is filled with people of different skin color, backgrounds, hair colors, nose sizes, and physical statures. All sorts of Latinos and Asians populate the sport, besides those of dark and light skin color.

Finally, suggesting young “black” kids are more likely to become MMA fighters because of the status of fighters like Jackson, and Evans, is once again implied collectivism. It suggests that young blacks are likely to join MMA because they believe they are “more alike” those fighters than say, white, or asian fighters. I would be no less inclined to try and become heavyweight champion were Brock Lesnar African, or Asian, than I am today.

by dwv114 on Feb 26, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

damn, messed up the block quote again…the only line that was supposed to be blocked was

For those who would like to see more racial diversity in MMA, the trend is encouraging

by dwv114 on Feb 26, 2009 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Would you say that two black head coaches facing off in the superbowl wasn’t historic? Because for a VERY long time there were NO black head coaches in the NFL. How about a Black man v a Woman in the Democratic primary? Just because you celebrate the advancement of a group doesn’t mean you have to step on anyone else, celebrating the idea of OUR culture beginning to shed its previous prejudices is a GOOD thing. For the record, I bet a good many people would see YOU as racist for trying downplaying the importance of a the fight and equating it to a green eye v green eye fight. That seems like a very sheltered and ignorant majority view of someone who has never seen or acknowledged differences.

by cliChe on Feb 26, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

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by funnytiger on Feb 26, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

For a really long time, (billions of years) people couldn’t fly. Then the Wright brothers came along and built and air plane, and flew. That’s historic. When a bobsled team from Jamaica (a country with no snow or ice) made the olympics, and excelled, that was historic. Feats of human accomplishment are historic. Feats of accomplishment by individuals is historic. Feats of accomplishment by individuals who share certain superficial phyiscal characteristics, is no more historic, or impressive. Was it historic the first time a horse with a white spot on it’s hind legs won the Kentucky Derby? No.

Two people coaching the superbowl is a great, historic achievement. Two people reaching the pinnacle of a sport after a life of dedication is admirable. Whether those two individuals have darker or lighter skin makes no difference to me. I would celebrate those achievements equally if those coaches were both Asian, or Hindu, or Polish, or Iraqi, or just boring old pasty white Caucasian American, or one was a Mexican woman that was 4 feet tall. Shedding prejudice= good. When you say “OUR” in the manner in which you did, you accept something as your own. Accepting someone’s achievement who happens to have a similar physical characteristic as yourself, as somehow partly your achievement, is collectivist, and implying that you’re somehow more qualified to celebrate that achievment than someone who’s skin is a color different from your own, is inherently racist. Your obsession with group identity simply perpetuates collectivist and therefore racist behavior. I know, it’s probably difficult to understand, and you’ve been conditioned, probably your whole life to think the way you do. I carry no racial prejudice or bias.

by dwv114 on Feb 26, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Ok guys

This is exactly what I DIDN’T want to happen in this thread. These arguments can get outta hand and I don’t want that happening. Settle down please. Thanks in advance.

Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."

by xFenixKnightx on Feb 26, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

African-Americans were subjected to brutal treatment and staggering bigotry as a group. Why wouldn’t they celebrate their triumphs and accomplishments over said instituted racism as a group as well?

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 26, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The only way to kill racism, is to view and defend people as individuals, not as groups, or separate collectives. That’s how I view the world, as equal individuals. You can’t find fault in that way of thinking.

If you invoke race into a conversation (as the original post does). Whether to celebrate accomplishments, or expand a fanbase, or whatever, you have to accept people’s full thoughts. If some people don’t like seeing recognition related to race, and they voice that opinion, you’re going to end up with a full compliment of responses. If you just want everyone to read your post and agree, you’re probably barking up the wrong internet.

by dwv114 on Feb 26, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

it's great that you're living in a one-man post racial society

But it really doesn’t have anything to do with MMA.
Future comments along these lines will be deleted unless you show with compelling evidence that your point has some bearing on the marketing of MMA.
Pointing out that MMA is making strides into new communities is relevant in today’s sadly fallen world.
Your comment is more appropriate for some sort of political blog, which we’re not.

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Feb 26, 2009 3:25 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

As long as people and society at large continue to delineate race to the extent that is has been delineated, as long as society continues to make race a major issue, race will still be something of major cultural relevance and racial barriers falling will still be notable and of great cultural significance.

I’m glad to see we have time travelers from the future posting on bloody elbow though. How is John Titor?

by Chromium on Feb 26, 2009 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not going to go on some kind of censorship rant here, but seriously, I haven’t flamed anyone, called anyone any names, or been disrespectful. I was originally pointing out my dismay at the significance of the Jackson/Evans fight, and my belief that it’s more of the same as what got us here, as opposed to any kind of solution, or advancement of culture. i.e. Collectivism.

Oh, by the way, Rampage is really good at slams! That better?

by dwv114 on Feb 26, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

ugh..don’t pull the “I’m being censored” card.

We had gotten away from the topic of the subject of race in the context of MMA which is where it gets “dangerous” as far as losing control of the conversation.

Besides, if you think a horse with a spot on its leg is in the same league as the first time two african american fighters battle over a title there is no reasoning with you. You’re obviously of the “I’m so far beyond racism that we can’t even discuss race through any lens at all…” school of thought.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 26, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions  

This comment should be green.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 26, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

tl;dr ^^^^

It’ll be nice one day when we don’t notice race, but we’re not at the point where some people simply pretending it doesn’t exist will make it so. However, racial barriers falling propels us closer to this goal, and that’s always worth celebrating.

by Chromium on Feb 26, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait a sec….

Anderson doesn’t count as a black fighter?

by Tonley on Feb 26, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Huh?

You lost me

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 26, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Black Brazilian, not African-American. There is a large difference, which I won’t go into in order to keep this MMA related.

by cliChe on Feb 26, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

You know what’s even cooler then two black men fighting for the LHW title for the first time, the fact that they are such awesome athletes. That’s what I am banking on, just a kick-ass fight. Although I do feel a certain amount of pride that this is happening during my lifetime. To say that I was able to see it is cool.

by fightfan942 on Feb 26, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

I am hesitant to say that any bout between two counter fighters will definitely be exciting, but this one still might be given the excellent boxing and the utterly atomic power in each of their hands.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 26, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

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