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What if Pride Would Have Bought the UFC?

People in the States have always just seen UFC as being MMA. To the casual fan, PRIDE never meant anything. If they had bought the UFC (which obviously would never have happened since the UFC haven't bankrupted themselves, and PRIDE couldn't afford to run themselves let alone buy out someone else) they would most likely have kept the same branding, since it was known to American audiences. UFC dropped the PRIDE name because it doesn't need it, the UFC is much better known in Japan than PRIDE ever was in the States.

As for what else might change, I can't see too much. The rules are set by the Athletic Commissions so head stomps and what not wouldn't happen. Probably most of the freakshow fights wouldn't happen in the States for the same reason. Questions would still be asked about why so many PRIDE fighters look horrible and out of shape in the US (hint: they do drug tests in the States). Hopefully the PRIDE habit of letting their champions not bother to defend their belts wouldn't transfer over.

Basically PRIDE would have had two options, keep the UFC as a seperate promotion (like UFC and WEC) or run more PRIDE shows in the states to cover the UFC's schedule. Which would raise interesting questions. Would PRIDE have kept using American rules for US shows and their own rules in Japan? Would they move the Grand Prix's to the States? Who knows? MMA in Japan is slumping though, whereas it keeps getting bigger and bigger in the States, and generally the popular fighters in the States are already in the UFC or have been recently. Unfortunately, the likes of Takanori Gomi doesn't mean anything to an average American audience. So if PRIDE wanted to run more PRIDE shows in the states they would need those the UFC 'stars'.

Even if it was the PRIDE brand that people saw, they'd still just view it as they do the UFC just with a new name and a Japanese flavour. Ultimately it's still two guys kicking lumps out of each other. Actually, something like Fedor vs. Zuluzinho isn't going to make MMA look good to the average viewer at all. Frankly, given that PRIDE couldn't run themselves and their alleged connections to some rather dubious elements of Japanese society, I'd rather MMA be represented by the UFC all told.

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Both would be dead and disgraced, and MMA would be twenty years behind where it is right now. EXC would’ve looked like a legit enterprise next to a PRIDE owned… anything.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 23, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

I guess that’s strictly referring to the tie ins to the Yankuza, because until that scandal broke, PRIDE was an organization that actually made money promoting MMA.

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by Brett Jones on Feb 24, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions  

It is. The fact that they were profitable narrows down the reasons for collapse that much more.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 24, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Their problem was the utter dependance on their tv contract to survive. Yes the scandal cost them the contract but even without the scandal their existance was almost entirely dependant on a tv contract that could of been ended or reduced for a number of reasons.

by who me on Feb 24, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh

And is ‘yankusa’ like Yankee Yakusa?

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 24, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Nah, just hasty typing. But I got the z in there correctly, so I guess you win some and lose some.

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by Brett Jones on Feb 24, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

(No offense, StevenLaw, that’s just the voice I thought of when I read your post title.)

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by Chris Nelson on Feb 23, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Zhis is harrreeecarrreeee.

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Feb 23, 2009 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t jerk me around, Norm, it’s a simple question.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 23, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

i cannot rec that image strongly enough.

by boxingstudent on Feb 23, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

UFC 100: Lesnar vs. Bob Sapp

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Feb 23, 2009 9:42 PM EST reply actions  

Or the HMC match-up that K1 Dynamite was never able to pull off.

by Derek Suboticki on Feb 23, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions  

There is very slim chance that PRIDE could have used the Japanese rules in USA. When they ran a show in U.S. (PRIDE 33 – Second Coming), they used US Unified Rules. Why? Because they HAD TO. Getting the Japanese rules sanctioned would have been really difficult, if not impossible – especially with the Unified Rules already in place.

I can’t see the “freak show” fights getting much love from the US fans, either – or the commissions, for that matter.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Feb 24, 2009 3:09 AM EST reply actions  

Pride would never of had the connection to make it work in the US like UFC is struggling to come up with connections to make it work in Japan.

by bignerd on Feb 24, 2009 3:52 AM EST reply actions  

This is something that was never going to happen, if you want to discuss a hypothetical try one that almost did happen, Vince McMahon buying Pride.

by who me on Feb 24, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

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