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Gambling Spotlight: UFC 95

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Joe Stevenson

#24 Lightweight

 

vs.

Diego Sanchez

#7 Welterweight

+260 (5D) Best Line -315 (BOOK)
26 Age 27
5'7" Height 5'10"
29 - 9 - 0 Record 19 - 2 - 0
6 / 13 TKO / SUB 6 / 9
Cobra Kai Jiu Jitsu Camp University of Jiu Jitsu
L - Florian (SUB)
W - Tibau (SUB)
L - Penn (SUB)

Last 3 Fights
W - Fioravanti (TKO)
W - Bieklheden (SUB)
L - Fitch (SD)

I get the feeling Dana White and Joe Silva don't like Joe Stevenson.  After getting merked by B.J. Penn at UFC 80, they threw him one of the monsters at 155 in Gleison Tibau and then set him up for failure at UFC 91 with Kenny Florian.  It doesn't get any easier as he becomes a crash test dummy for the Diego Sanchez Lightweight Experiment.

I've always seen Joe as a poor man's Diego Sanchez - explosive and relentless with good-not-great hands and grappling.  He's always had problems with guys bigger than him (he lost to Josh Neer at Fight Night 14 and even in victory had a lot of problems with Tibau) or that can control position while grappling (Penn, Florian).  Diego just happens to be a mix of both.

Diego may have been a tad undersized at welterweight, but still climbed to establish himself in the top ten.  His two losses come to Josh Koscheck (a fight in which he had a lot of injury issues) and a split decision to consensus top three Jon Fitch.  That's impressive stuff.

Unfortunately for Joe, I see this being similar to the Penn and Florian fights.  Diego will push the fight, swarm, and at some point end up on top of Joe.  So long as he doesn't fall into a guillotine, and he's good enough to stay out of that, he should take this walking away.

I like a unit on Sanchez here.  I think this is Diego's fight to lose, but I think this will be the start of his march at the lightweight crown.

Star-divide

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Dan Hardy

#17 Welterweight

 

vs

Rory Markham

+100 (5D) Best Line -105 (BOOK)
26 Age 26
6'0" Height 6'0"
20 - 6 - 0 Record 16 - 4 - 0
10 / 4 TKO / SUB 11 / 5
Team Rough House Camp Militech Martial Arts
W - Gono (SD)
W - Weichel (TKO)
W - Reiner (TKO)

Last 3 Fights
W - Farber (KO)
W - Ellis (SUB)
L - Cooper (TKO)

Joe Silva continues his underrated work as matchmaker with a fine bout between a couple of solid welterweight prospects.  Hardy's getting the Michael Bisping treatment, co-main eventing a card in his home country of England.

I like a unit on Hardy here.  He controlled the early portions of the Gono fight with solid boxing.  Gono ended up picking up on some of Hardy's tendencies and closed the distance in the last two rounds, but I don't think Markham will be able to exploit Hardy in the same way.  Additionally, Brodie Farber tagged Markham all around the ring before getting his head blown off with a right high kick.  Hardy still has some issues, but I don't think he'll be caught chasing with his hands near his waist.

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Wilson Gouveia

#23 Middleweight

 

vs.

Nate Marquardt

#5 Middleweight
7 time King of Pancrase

+255 (BOOK) Best Line -270 (5D)
30 Age 29
6'1" Height 6'1"
12 - 5 - 0 Record 26 - 8 - 2
4 / 7 TKO / SUB 4 / 14
American Top Team Camp Jackson's Submission Fighting
W - MacDonald (SUB)
W - Jensen (SUB)
L - Reljic (TKO)

Last 3 Fights
W - Kampmann (TKO)
L - Leites (SD)
W - Horn (SUB)

Their first fight wasn't a great indication, but I think people sleep on Nate Marquardt as a guy who can dethrone Anderson Silva.  With that in mind, I think he's being undervalued here.

Gouveia looked awful in his fights with Goran Reljic and Ryan Jensen before taking care of Jason MacDonald quickly.  Jensen especially, before being caught in an armbar, took it to Gouveia throughout their fight.  Marquardt's a guy who's always been solid, but he showed immense improvement in his standup when he mugged Martin Kampmann.

Things are fairly evenly matched on the floor, but I expect Marquardt to push the fight to all corners of the Octagon standing up.  I think we see a TKO stoppage in round two.  Take Nate up to -350 to -400.

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Chael Sonnen

#12 Middleweight

 

vs.

Demian Maia

#8 Middleweight

+235 (5D) Best Line -270 (DOG)
31 Age 31
6'1" Height 6'0"
21 - 9 - 1 Record 9 - 0 - 0
7 / 3 TKO / SUB 1 / 7
Team Quest Camp Team Brasa
W - Filho (UD)
W - Baker (UD)
L - Filho (SUB)

Last 3 Fights
W - Quarry (SUB)
W - MacDonald (SUB)
W - Herman (SUB)

Contrary to Sonnen's delusion, these two are not the best middleweights in the world. They aren't even the best middleweights not named Anderson Silva.

That said, Maia may be the best prospect in the division. After watching tape on him, I came away with a lot of good things to say. For starters, he's much better on his feet than most guys with a strict BJJ background. Which isn't to say he'll light the world on fire standing up, but he's aggressive, has OK technique, and he uses it well to set up his takedowns. That follows on the ground where he complements his world class grappling with an efficient positional transition - the punch in the face.

In addition, Maia refuses to relent when he wants to bring the fight to the floor. He does not give up on his singles and doubles, and if he is met with great resistance, he will not hesitate to fall back, pull guard, and work for sweeps.

Sonnen, on the other hand, represents your prototypical Team Quest guy - big, bulky wrestler with OK-to-solid hands. He poses some interesting problems for Maia. For starters, his wrestling presents a challenge for Maia to take the fight to the mat. If he can succeed in that fashion, he could repeat his destruction of "Saint" Paulo Filho.

Maia, however, is taller than Filho with a longer reach, and shouldn't have the same problems his Brazilian counterpart did. Also, Sonnen, and to a greater extent Team Quest, have never been known for their ability to create a game plan and stick with it. Sonnen has already said this fight will likely end up on the ground. And with someone with as many grappling deficiencies as Sonnen, it's only a matter of time before Maia grabs a limb or a choke.

I'm torn on picking a side in this one which is usually a sign that the market is fairly efficient. I give Maia a huge edge in ability to finish the bout, but I'm scared that Sonnen can keep the fight where he wants it. There's always a chance that Maia's striking has come along enough to win the fight there, but I wouldn't count on it. If I had to choose, I'd take Maia, but if you don't have a gun against your temple, just enjoy the fight.

Josh Koscheck

#4 Welterweight

 

vs.

Paulo Thiago

-515 (5D) Best Line +450 (BOOK)
31 Age 28
5'10" Height 5'11"
12 - 3 - 0 Record 7 - 0 - 0
3 / 4 TKO / SUB 1 / 3
American Kickboxing Academy Camp Unknown
W - Yoshida (KO)
L - Alves (UD)
W - Lytle (UD)

Last 3 Fights
W - Dutra Jr. (TKO)
W - Kheder (UD)
W - Cavera (SUB)

Koscheck hung at -450 just a couple days ago, so we've seen some line movement in the past 48-72 hours or so. The current best available  line seems a bit off as well. The linesmakers may be adjusting for inefficiencies they saw in Werdum/dos Santos type of lines, they may be worried about Koscheck's fight schedule, or maybe they know something about Paulo Thiago.

Unfortunately, the tape on Thiago doesn't offer us much. It looks like he has solid jiu-jitsu and an underdeveloped striking game. Yes, a Brazilian with good ground and bad standup. Shocking. Still, none of his opponents even touch the level of Josh Koscheck, so we don't really know how his skills stack up in that sense.

If you don't mind laying the chalk, I don't mind a play on Kos around -500. I wouldn't fault anyone for staying away due to Thiago's unknowns, however.

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in the BE betting game, i put 75 bucks on sonnen, but in the picks i chose maia by 1st round sub. haha. :)

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by Anton Tabuena on Feb 20, 2009 12:06 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Struve...

and Grove remain my best picks here. Struve is very long and has really slick ground skills and I think poses some interesting problems for dos Santos and Grove is just too powerful in the first 5 minutes for Mike C.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 20, 2009 12:10 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious, Brent?

Struve may not be a bad underdog pick, but he lacks size against a large Santos, and most tape on Struve shows a far inferior striking game with a lot of slowness in his step. Santos should be able to outbox him and Santos still has some decent ground game, BJJ Black Belt to be specific.

Grove is one of the worst strikers I’ve ever seen. I can see why people would pick him due to his power, but a lot of people bring up his KOing of James Thompson as logic. Thompson basically ran his face into Grove’s fist. It was atrocious. Mike C will be undersized, but I think he has the better standup skills. Grove is a looping behemoth, gasses easy, and after watching Rick Berry basically KO him but then fail to finish, and a shorter, slower Rob Broughton beat Grove by decision… I’ll never pick Grove. He’s too flaky and too huge.

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

And by size

I mean thickness, he’s obviously tall as all hell.

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dos Santos has a black belt? I thought he only had a purple belt.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 20, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, you’re right. He does train out of Black House though, so he could be at a brown belt level right now. My only concern is Struve’s slowness to the punch, and Santos’ monster power.

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you. I think Struve is probably gonna get beat up here. I think Struve is a good prospect, but Dos Santos looks to be a great one.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 20, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Black House is still around?

by Day Man on Feb 20, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I read that they built a more or less private gym in Cali.

http://www.sackmikegoldberg.com

by Mike Fagan on Feb 20, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome, just found a link about it. Too bad its basically private since its in my city but I can see why they would want privacy.

by Day Man on Feb 21, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like we've caught MMAJunkie

MMAJunkie reports he’s a Black Belt under Black House.
Fighters Only Interview QUOTES Santos as saying “I’m a purple belt”

Looks like somebody didn’t do their homework.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Performify’s a good guy. Honest mistake.

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by Mike Fagan on Feb 20, 2009 10:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

James Thompson gets knocked out by everybody…with the exception of Kimbo Slice that is. Knocking out JT is no measure of a man’s worth.

I heart Cock Chestnar

by cyph on Feb 20, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

We'll see...

Grove’s technique is AWFUL I’m not going to dispute that. But Mike is a 205 pounder and I think he’ll fold if he gets hit hard here which I think does happen. As I said in other posts…if Mike survives 4 minutes or so…he should be able to win. I just don’t see it happening.

Struve has bulked up a bit and lets not forget that he subbed a legitimate Carlson Gracie black belt in his last fight (although admittedly not the threat that dos Santos is). I think you’ll be surprised come tomorrow. But we’ll see.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 20, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Neto was crazy gassed. I’m not trying dismiss the victory, because it is still impressive, but its not like he just tapped him right out of the gate.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 20, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No...

but despite getting his guard passed and mounted he completely neutralized any damage or threats from Neto who, while not a top shelf MMA fighter…is a legitimate threat on the ground.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 20, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Certainly. I agree with you, I just wanted to temper some of that “he tapped a black belt” talk with some context. Struve is an good prospect and the fact that he survived, let alone tapped him, is a big victory. That said, we shouldn’t (unintentionally) overstate his accomplishments through omission of key details.

+1 on using ellipses. I love those things.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 20, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

As I just said in the other thread. I think it needs to be said (in an effort to double up on your omission of key detail talk) that Struve’s constant movement and work from the ground is a large part of what wore Neto out. There aren’t a lot of guys his size that are in near constant motion when on their backs. He was looking for sweeps, submissions…anything to prevent Neto from ever really mounting any offense and in turn this led to Neto gassing and Stefan finishing.

I’m obviously high on the kid so maybe I’m a bit overly enthusiastic at this point. But still, I think he has a crazy bright future. And one that starts really heating up with beating Junior dos Santos tomorrow.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 20, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good call on the Struve’s movement being a big factor in Neto gassing, though I thought Mario gassing was equally his own fault.

I don’t think that you’re overly enthusiastic on Struve. That guy is probably the biggest European prospect in a while. All things considered, I was making a minor point and not really disagreeing with your general assessment.

That said, I still think that Dos Santos is gonna beat him tomorrow, but that his hardly a knock against him.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 20, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

biggest European prospect

Literally and figuratively!

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Feb 20, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

THe problem is that Grove is AWFUL as you said. I mean, the guy basically goes for the home run, but misses 90% of the time. Mike might not be an overly big guy for heavyweight, but Grove is just atrociously bad in the standup. I could see him catching Mike, but I just can’t bet on Grove, I mean, I can’t…

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

i got 500 on hardy, plus he's included in a $100, 3 fight parlay..

He’s gonna get the bisping treatment as you said, so im really banking on the thought that joe silva also thinks this is a good fight to build hardy up, therefore a big chance for a hardy win.. i dont know if that even makes sense. or if that is the right train of thought to go on for betting haha.

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by Anton Tabuena on Feb 20, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I wonder why Joe is ranked number 24? His 2 losses are to the number 1 contender in the UFC and the UFC champ. Now granted, there are plenty of talented 155ers outside of the UFC but I don’t see there being 23 above Joe.

by RyanHobbs on Feb 20, 2009 4:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Those are just his 2 losses in his last 3 fights...

he also has the loss to Neer in the UFC. I think it’s just a “big picture” thing where a lot of people see he can get pressured and bullied and think there are a lot of guys who could do that to him

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 20, 2009 5:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Joe Daddy is a solid fighter, but he’s not excellent. Other than the guillotine choke, he doesn’t have any one big finishing ability, and guys pretty much have to stick their head into the guillotine. In other words, Daddy can only win if he takes a decision or the other guy screws up. The best fighters have to be able to impose their will on their opponent somehow, and he doesn’t. Even counter-strikers frustrate guys and suck them in; Joe tends to do things like hang out on the bottom in guard and wait for a fuck up, but he doesn’t do anything to prompt or encourage a mistake.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 20, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Completely agree with this assessment, and I’ve been pushing this upon other fans for the last week. Some people disagree, but overall, I think if you really look back hard at a lot of his fights, this is what happens.

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’d lay hard on Koscheck, almost to the point where I’d max bet $500. Watch any tape on Thiago and you’ll see that Koscheck is really quite a lock pick. Thiago has terrible standup, and his takedowns aren’t very good to begin with.

Sanchez should be a decent pick, but this preview lacks undercard picks, which is where the bread and butter will be made. Mike Ciesnolevicz is a solid pick at -115 since Neil Grove has terrible gas and terrible standup.

Cobb and Dunham are decent upset picks, but I’m a bit hesitant there. Seriously, these previews need to be more in-depth, I’m not sure why they aren’t. Simply saying who the favorite is and then picking them is absurd. It really comes down to what the lines look like.

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by Leland Roling on Feb 20, 2009 10:27 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I for one thought this post was awesome

Deepened my understanding and made me wish I’d read it before I’d made my bets!

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Feb 20, 2009 11:22 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

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