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In Real Life, Bankruptcy Does Not Work Like it Does in Monopoly

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There are all sorts of horrible articles about the finances of Station Casinos on the internet.  The problem with articles like this is they are based on hope, not reality.  For people desperate to see Dana White lose his position and for Zuffa to fall from its position of dominance, this provides a good opportunity to celebrate even though they have no clue what they're talking about.

I've been wanting to write an article on this stuff for a while, but I've had a hard time putting it together and making it clear.  Thankfully, Steve Cofield had a business correspondent on his show today to address this silliness.

Update: Commenter "who me" has a great post on this in the comments below for those that can't listen to the audio at Cofield's blog. 

 

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Ummm.....

Is this really happening?

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Feb 18, 2009 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

Probably

Will probably have a very good idea for sure at the beginning of March. They have just missed their second bond payment for February and have until the 3rd to make good on the first missed payment.

The industry as all know has been hit very hard. Trump Casinos just filed for Bankruptcy protection (3rd time) and Harrah’s has extend their long term borrowing to the max. Bankruptcy is likely to follow.

If Trump can come back from bankruptcy 3 times, uhm the other Casinos will very likely be able to also.

Regardless, UFC is a separate corporation that Stations Casino. A Corporation is different than personal bankruptcy in that the Fertitta’s don’t have to lose their personal wealth and as the article says it is in the billions.

by natyong on Feb 18, 2009 3:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Actually...

My comment is out of context. There was a bit of a situation earlier that got… removed.

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Feb 18, 2009 3:40 AM EST up reply actions  

Geez... Thanks for clearing that up

Wanted to add a link to the following article on MMAWeekly regarding how the UFC is managing to operate normally despite the recession.

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=8195&zoneid=2

"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry

by Blackout612 on Feb 18, 2009 1:28 AM EST reply actions  

In Real Life, Bankruptcy Does Not Work Like it Does in Monopoly

I swear this is where many of the people who got us into this mess learned about economics.

It is surprising that with Vegas taking a sizable blow, the UFC has managed to stay so active. Vegas is its HQ, so I just assumed they would all affect each other, like dominoes.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett

by Scott C. Broussard on Feb 18, 2009 2:15 AM EST reply actions  

Steve Cofield is great. I’ve been a fan of his since he was back at the Houston Chronicle.

by pumaman on Feb 18, 2009 2:16 AM EST reply actions  

Thank you for dispelliing yet another internet created myth about Zuffa and the UFC, it’s amazing how many people on here don’t understand what’s going on.

by Raker on Feb 18, 2009 3:12 AM EST reply actions  

So much of what people (mis)understand about economics comes from childhood experiences with monopoly. The whole zero-sum basis of the game, bankruptcy being death, etc. That game has done a ton of damage…and that’s coming from a huge fan of it ;)

by Michael Rome on Feb 18, 2009 3:17 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I'm just pissed...

because every time I find a parking lot with “free parking” no one comes out and hands me a big wad of cash.

Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.

by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 18, 2009 9:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Cause that’s a made-up rule. Now, I’m just glad that I don’t have to pay the electric company four times whatever is in my wallet every time I drive by their offices.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 18, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Damn, I wanted to make that comment about Free Parking.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Feb 18, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

So, youre saying Trump's Casinos will be fine?

:)

J/K.
That has been a failed project for a while already.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 18, 2009 4:15 AM EST reply actions  

I’m saying it won’t affect anything, and that chapter 11 is just restructuring. Both are basically non-stories for the industry…they are tangential at best.

by Michael Rome on Feb 18, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions  

At this point Donald Trump has all but bailed on Trump Entertainment and is even looking at trying to get his name taken off of it. Still the company is liable to come out the other side as a functioning company once again after this is over with. Heck the banks could take a worse beating from a liquidation than a restructuring at this point, who would buy Trump Entertainment’s holdings for a decent price now?

by who me on Feb 18, 2009 4:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post…I was going to write something similar, but laziness led to me just linking. The most annoying thing in the world is “analysis” written authoritatively even though it’s completely wrong.

by Michael Rome on Feb 18, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Internet disease tends to affect people’s brains and makes them confuse opinions with fact, it’s a horrible epidemic :D I could be wrong (analysis is still just opinion) but at least I took a bit of time to actually read up on the subject before running my mouth.

The Steve Cofield article laid it out really well but then he also went out and found someone who had done the research to put it into perspective too, it’s that extra step that separates his “analysis” from the pack. The idea that Dana White would be sweating Station Casinos problems is really silly, his company is the one that looks like it’s going to prosper during the recession and Lorenzo has already moved his entire career from Station to Zuffa.

by who me on Feb 18, 2009 5:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I should add that I wish I would of proof-read that before I posted, writing at 4 am has it’s own set of issues.

by who me on Feb 18, 2009 5:40 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ve never read into this whole bankruptcy thing out of laziness but somehow I thought people were getting the wrong idea. Thanks for putting it all in a nutshell and making it clear. Great post.

Kuwabara Kuwabara

by J. B. Maddox on Feb 18, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Very nicely put

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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 18, 2009 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Phenomenal.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Feb 18, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

That really says it all.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 18, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

If they were filing for Chapter 7...

I think the people looking for some “red meat” on Zuffa et al. might have a little more to sink their teeth into. As it stands, and I’ll defer offering a half hearted analysis in light of who me’s excellent synopsis, Chapter 11 just means they’ll be entering into a reorganization of their debts and affairs.

Chapter 11, as far as I understand it, is just as much a strategic corporate move as it is anything. Especially considering they purposely faulted on their monthly loan payment (from what I’ve read), I’d say that’s more the case.

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by The_Gaijin on Feb 18, 2009 10:41 AM EST reply actions  

My understanding is that the current negotiations with Station ownership (the 244 million dollar cash injection)has as much to do with getting the bond holders to accept the current ownership/leadership arraingement as it does with “saving the company”. Either way I don’t see them having to file chapter 7. There is a chance that Station will come out the other side of this as a stronger company and the Fertitta’s could end up even richer than before.

by who me on Feb 18, 2009 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Arm Chair Quarterbacks Always Assume They Are The Best!

Hey folks, just to live up to my nickname “Rabble Rousin’” I felt the need to come on here and educate everyone on a few salient points.

I have been investigating the Fertitta family for a little over 2 years now. I’m currently engaged in litigation with Fertitta Enterprises, and for the first time ever their law firm asked for me to pay their legal fees. The Fertitta family burden is being reported as $244 million paid by their family alone to put forward a pre-packaged bankrputcy, not by Colony Capital. The Fertittas were also recently sued by S. Blake Murchison, which is one of Station’s bondholders.

At any rate, the point is they will not emerge unscathed and likely won’t be billionaires on the back end of all this. With 90 percent ownership over Dana’s 10 the Fertittas will sell the UFC without a moment’s hesitation if they get the right price AND they have no other choice. Of course Dana always says it’s always for sale for the right price, the Fertittas would take a big offer at this point if they had no other major source of income.

The problem is the Fertittas are caught red handed with Station Casinos. Whether they go down with the ship is up for debate, but it’s not inevitable that they’ll get away scott free. Think about how they went public and then private again with Station and pissed a lot of other people off doing that. Think about the Xyience situation I’ve been fighting to expose for the last two years.

Xyience Really Sucks and Here’s Why

This is not a climate that’s going to be kind to such high level fraud. I’m not saying my lawsuit is likely to cripple them, but I can guarantee you my research on their tendencies, background, and modus operandi is eventually going to make its way to the folks the Fertittas try to screw over to get the bankruptcy they want. I have a feeling the bankruptcy is going to be far from prepackaged and involve a ton of mudslinging and fighting over the pieces. Bondholders and creditors know about Tillman Fertitta’s escape from debt due to the Savings and Loan scandal. Lorenzo and the two Franks thought they could manipulate their position to wind up in the same boat as Tillman. I think if the times were any different they would have been able to get away with it, but their tracks are clear. They’ve done this before and burned too many folks already for them to get away unscathed on this.

At any rate, those who have written so much above without the kind of intimate knowledge on “the family” that I’ve procured are basing your analysis on typical bankruptcies, which are of course nothing like Monopoly. Of course, I don’t contend this one is like Monopoly, but I say just don’t be so quick to conclude that it will all be clean this time around.

Also, I think it’s really premature to claim that no matter what happens with Station Casinos the Fertittas will not sell the UFC as a direct result of that situation. The Fertittas are really handcuffed to the UFC at this point. It’s their baby now and they want to raise it and watch it grow. They’d never put it up for adoption just because someone’s willing to give them a bunch of money, not as long as they can get their money elsewhere and still take care of their baby.

I think that they’ll sell it only if a combination of the right price and their financial troubles gets to a crescendo they can’t cope with. These guys are used to spending about a hundred million a year on themselves and their extended family. So, of course they’ll survive, but not necessarily as future billionaires forever. Someday their luck might run out, and they might not be as resilient as Trump.

So, flame me if you must, but consider this: anything can happen here and it’s already looking a little uglier than most people could have imagined. I’ll agree it’s not the end of the UFC no matter what happens, but as for this bankruptcy being good all around for the Fertitta “family” I have to disagree and inform everyone that the jury and the judge is still out on that conclusion so don’t commit to it.

by Xyiencesucks on Feb 19, 2009 6:52 AM EST reply actions  

The only thing that you said that actually disagrees with what I said was that the Fertitta’s would be responsible for the $244 million. I would be interested to know why you think they would be on the hook for the full amount for a company they are only minority shareholders in? A source would be nice as I haven’t seen anything that says that only the Fertitta family were putting new equity into the company. It also should be pointed out that it would be silly of anyone to make that offer if they didn’t actually have a way worked out to cover the amount, any issues would be beyond that number.

S. Blake Murchison sued Station Casinos and Harrahs casinos over debt reorganizations not treating small bondholders the same as the larger ones, he’s wanting to exchange his old bonds for new ones (which Station has already stated would happen in their SEC response to this). These kinds of suits aren’t anything new, nor does it say anything special about the Fertitta’s. Small bondholders always get the short end of the stick when companies get into financial trouble.

The big issue here is that yes the Fertitta’s would sell the UFC if the price was right, they have always said that. If someone makes them the right offer they will sell, they said that before there were problems with Station Casinos. Still where is this “right offer” going to come from? Who is the “mystery buyer” that’s willing to pay that right price for Zuffa? Even if th Fertitta’s were actively looking for a buyer who out there in this economy is going to spend a billion dollars for a MMA company?

by who me on Feb 19, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

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