Gegard Mousasi Moving Up in Weight, Plans to Fight in America for Affliction
From Loretta Hunt's article on Mousasi:
The decision to move up in divisions was made out of necessity, he says.
"After the tournament, I took a break for 10 days to see my family in Armenia," says Mousasi. "I decided, ‘Let’s put on some weight.’ I just start eating and I didn’t train, and after that, I was 96, 97 kilos [216 pounds]. I gave my body a little bit [of] rest, and my body grow because of my age. I didn’t let my body grow and now it grows naturally. I need to go up."
The growth spurt probably hasn’t thrilled Dream executives, who had just crowned their first-ever middleweight king and a good one at that, but Mousasi says a weight cut at this point would be unhealthy for him.
"They wanted me to defend my belt one more time, but going from 216 to 185, it’s not possible for me anymore," he says. "I have to move up."
Gegard Mousasi has certainly put himself on the map as one of the world's top middleweights, and there are a plethora of potentially great matchups for him at 185. I'm not sure if "necessity" is the proper term to use in describing the move, but he seems determined to make said move. Mousasi goes on to explain his ultimate goal:
"To be honest, I want to go to heavyweight," he says. "I think if it’s something you do and you win, people will be surprised, and I like that. It was always my dream to be the best. If you say, ‘I’m the best heavyweight’ it feels like you’re the best heavyweight in the world. If you say, 'I’m the best middleweight,' there’s always a couple of guys above you that could beat you."
If all goes as planned inside his cool but calculated mind, Mousasi will make his U.S. debut at Affliction and M-1 Global’s third event in June or July carrying 225-230 pounds on his frame the natural way.
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Mousasi has also been influenced by Fedor Emelianenko, who has made his last two appearances in the States and trumped two former UFC champions, Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski, in a combined 3:50. Emelianenko and Mousasi are both managed under the Red Devil International banner and have worked out together.
"Training with him, that’s also one of the reasons I thought I can be a heavyweight," says Mousasi. "Standing next to Fedor, I feel so much bigger than him. When you train with him, he feels like a middleweight. He’s as strong as a heavyweight but as fast as a middleweight, so I think that makes him special. If I can take my speed as a middleweight, have that explosiveness and mobility and move up to heavyweight, I think that’s something a lot of them don’t have."
Mousasi even points to Paul Buentello as a good opponent for him to debut at heavyweight against. This entire plan is intriguing to say the least. The current trend in MMA is fighters cutting weight to gain a relative size advantage over their opponents, or at least to avoid the disadvantage of being relatively smaller. Heavyweight is the extreme scenario with some guys now cutting to get down to 265. True, Fedor Emelianenko has been dominant as a small heavyweight, but is he a good example or just an anomaly? If enormous fighters in the mold of Brock Lesnar and Shane Carwin are able to effectively apply their wrestling skills while significantly bettering their overall games, I have to believe that these types of athletes could give even Fedor a stiff test.
Mousasi possesses a multitude of skills as a mixed martial artist, and at 23, he has a lot of time to improve further. With that said, I'm quite skeptical of the course he has proposed. Mousasi almost sounds as if he buys into the common misconception that being the best heavyweight fighter is equivalent to being the best fighter overall. I'd love to see him fight some of the top middleweights and light heavyweights here in North America. Heavyweight, however, presents some unique problems for a man with Mousasi's frame.
Whatever your opinion, one thing seems apparent; Gegard Mousasi is not afraid of a challenge.
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I think he’s right. At his age and position it makes sense to to start moving up right now and not later when he’s forced into it (well, he sort of claims that he’s forced into it right now) but at 23, he should be able to become a natural LHW. And who knows, if he gets up to 235 of natural weight, he’d be able to take on any of those big guys with his speed and craftiness.
Trying to stay at middleweight right now when he sees the inevitability of having to move up in weight anyway, best do it now and on his own terms. You don’t want to be like Dan Henderson, who wanted to move up to LHW but couldn’t really handle the bigger dudes up there.
by Dooda on Feb 15, 2009 12:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Henderson won the Pride LHW belt and gave Rampage a good challenge for UFC’s title. I won’t say he couldn’t handle the bigger dudes.
by bignerd on Feb 16, 2009 2:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Henderson won the Pride LHW belt from Wanderlei Silva, who is moving down to 185…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 16, 2009 3:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But I still think that a match with him against Spider is as intriguing as any. The two meeting at LHW makes my mouth water. I think he’s getting awful close to a top 5 p4p guy. A couple more big wins and he’s right there.
by Dooda on Feb 15, 2009 12:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seeing that he destroyed Musashi in stand-up (A K1-Heavyweight kickboxer) I think his biggest problem will be dealing with well versed wrestlers, especially at higher weight classes.
I’d like to see him move up to 205 for a while and see how that goes, he definitely has the tools, and he is only 23 as the article said, so he has the time too. No need to rush into the heavyweight division at 216 pounds, when you can cut the 11(10 for non title) pounds and fight at light heavyweight.
It is too bad he is leaving middleweight, because he is one of the few fighters I’d say has a great shot against Anderson Silva or Vitor Belfort.
by DirtyML on Feb 15, 2009 12:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not afraid of a challenge? I beg to differ, if he wasn’t afraid of a challenge he’d cut the weight.
Never cared about Mousasi…but I’ll keep an open mind in his next few fights.
by kyfm621 on Feb 15, 2009 12:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure I follow.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 15, 2009 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the article he states that Mousasi isn’t afraid of a challenge. I said that if he wasn’t afraid of a challenge he would keep cutting to 185.
Theres a difference between Mousasi and someone like Randy, who is trying to stay HW because at his age a weight cut could be troublesome and leave him more drained than he needs to be to be in fighting condition.
I give alot of fighters the benefit of the doubt, but Mousasi sounds like he dosen’t want to put in the work to fight at the weightclass. He’s pretty much saying that since he’s last fight he’s put on some weight and that his body is now just putting on muscle and it is unwise to continue cutting. I highly doubt that over a little more than a month his best fighting shape went from 185 to 220ish.
by kyfm621 on Feb 15, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess. One thing, though, he didn’t weight 185 at the beginning of the month. He was cutting to 185 from some unknown number.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 15, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well arguably he is going up in weight, leaving a stronger division for a weaker one (MW to either LHW or HW). And few of the HW’s outside of the UFC are of the Lesnar/Carwin/Cain variety, so he can probably afford to be smaller.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he juiced too much for his last fight…
by mmalogic on Feb 15, 2009 12:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
…like apple or orange juice? Maybe, cranberry?
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 15, 2009 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a special kind of juice… not the kind grandma used to give.
by mmalogic on Feb 15, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe not your Grandma…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 15, 2009 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is only 12:35 a.m. on Sunday morning, and my whole week is ruined.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he juiced exactly the right amount as he both made weight and won.
Can’t wait to see the “Mousasi just doesn’t look like his old self!” posts after his first sanctioned MMA fight.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its funny. This clown can be as disrespectful and cowardly as he wants, but my comment gets deleted when I call him on it.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha, you’re right, that IS funny. But we’re laughing AT you, not with you.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 6:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he said this not so long ago, might be facing Sobral at Affliction’s 3rd show.
by Stefan Manojlovic on Feb 15, 2009 3:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Does every article have to some how start referencing Brock Lesner?? Jesus…give it a rest…the Dana White media machine has certainly worked…
Wags
by DocWagner on Feb 15, 2009 7:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're hilarious.
The only reason I mentioned Lesnar (and Carwin) was to illustrate the size struggles that smaller heavyweights are having and will likely continue to face in the future. I didn’t say he was the best. I didn’t say he’s going to be the best. If you go back a couple of decades, most NFL offensive linemen weren’t over 300 lbs. Furthermore, you didn’t see the combination of speed and size throughout all positions that you do now. I think this phenomenon is more present in MMA today than it was only a few years ago.
I put together an entire post about Mousasi. I mentioned Lesnar once in passing, and you’re upset. Oh no, the dreaded “Dana White media machine” strikes again. Maybe, we should pretend that all huge heavyweight wrestlers don’t exist. While we’re at it, we can ignore the fact that a certain athlete that happens to fit that description is the heavyweight champion in the world’s pre-eminent MMA promotion. I’m sure that would improve analysis.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 15, 2009 9:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The whole article was hardly about the UFC or lesnar in particular i dont get what he’s saying haha.
its like he thinks lesnar is an evil word or something. maybe from now on we should put bleeps everytime someone mentions lesnar..
Hey docwagner,
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by Anton Tabuena on Feb 15, 2009 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just because you can get up to 216 , it doesn’t mean you should – just ask lindland.
How about cutting to LHW rather than being the smallest HW ever? Bad career move dude.
All for one and one for all!
by Mixed Martial Adam on Feb 15, 2009 8:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Emelianenko and Mousasi are both managed under the Red Devil International
There goes any chance of him ending up in the UFC
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Feb 15, 2009 9:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Unless they build him a stadium in Armenia.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Unless they build Vadim a stadium in Armenia.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 15, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good call.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That originally said “Corrected”, but I guess the editor is angry today.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 15, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why is it in boxing, as a fighter ages, he moves up in weight. yet there is a phenomenon in MMA where fighters are moving down as they get older. its a real head scratcher.
by #5mmafan on Feb 15, 2009 9:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, just like in this article, as guys get older they tend to want to move up in weigt in MMA as well. See Randy, Chuck (If he does make the move up as rumored). I would think a guy like Wandy is the exception to the rule for the most part.
I can’t think of too many older guys that are cutting that much weight relative to their division.
by Bigperm on Feb 15, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s disappointing we won’t ever get to see this guy fight someone like Anderson silva. unfortunately, most of the guys that can hang with Silva re fighting outside of the UFC right now and it doesn’t look like we will see them fighting the UFC anytime son if ever.
by Bigperm on Feb 15, 2009 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You only think they can hang with Anderson because they look good fighting cans. Mousasi’s best win is Denis Kang and he just got chumped out in his UFC debut by Alan Belcher.
I don’t think Mousasi would beat Chris Leben.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 5:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lol, you obviously haven’t seen him fight. And Leben? Lol. Could Leben hang with a top K-1 level striker like Mousashi let alone finish him like Gegard did? Do some homework.
by Bigperm on Feb 15, 2009 6:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The phrase “K1 Level Striker” means dick in MMA, everyone should know that now. Anyone who trots that old classic out shows how little they know.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mousasi is more that just a high level striker. He’s beaten a lot of guys via submission, and he shows a lot of control on the ground. I believe his opponents have been better than you’re indicating. I don’t know exactly where he fits in, but I think he would be a top middleweight in the UFC or any other organization.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 15, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you not agree that his best win was Denis Kang?
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind
Jacare, Shango, Manhoef.. He hasn’t always faced top level talent, but he’s hot right now and he’s beaten some major competition of late.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 15, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of those three, none of them has ever cracked a top 10 list I’ve ever seen. Kang did.
It’s not just for that reason, but I still say Kang was his best win and that’s not impressive at all.
Mousasi is just the little league MMA flavor of the month. There’s always one of these guys people think look amazing beating up on other overrated fighters. It never ends.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 8:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
web design fail. It’s annoying when I hit the reply button and the reply box doesn’t pop up, especially when the reply box looks almost exactly like the new comment box.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So DREAM is little league now? Heh, you new guys crack me up.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dream’s always been the little leagues. That’s why they hold tourneys. Tourneys are a trick that the inferior orgs use to make fighters look better than they really are. That’s why people thought Shogun was so great, and we all know what happened to him.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PRIDE was not an inferior organization.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It didn’t have inferior fighters, but it’s failure suggests it probably was an inferior organization.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 15, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Uh, no. It didn’t fail, it got cut off from network TV for political reasons.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not only did they fail to stay on TV in Japan, they also failed in their attempt to do anything meaningful in America, which they amusingly and foolishly put their last hopes in.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 10:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That strikes me as a failure.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Feb 16, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was implied in pumaman’s post that PRIDE’s fighters were inferior. That would be my major point of contention. To be honest, I prefer the UFC and its rules/regulations/etc. to PRIDE’s, though I still contend that PRIDE wasn’t inferior because of those things.
But the notion that PRIDE fighters, as a class, were inferior, is ridiculous.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 15, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If its a stacked tournament like the 2005 MWGP was, it means a lot. The 2009 DREAM FWGP field, for example, is absolutely loaded with great fighters.
The closest thing I’ve seen to what you are describing is recent TUF tournaments. Those are misleading because they intentionally put seasoned fighters and blue chip prospects like Danzig and Bader up against people who have few pro fights or are just mostly for entertainment purposes.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly my point! In the UFC, TUF is just a way to get started in the promotion. In Dream, winning a tourney that’s mostly full of cans is as good as it gets. Hence Dream = TUF.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re saying the DREAM FWGP is full of cans, you need to do some homework because you have no idea what you’re talking about.
The 2008 DREAM MWGP had 6-7 very tough fighters, and Mousasi did not get an easy draw obviously. It was a meaningful tournament and Gegard proved he is an elite fighter.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The second best of those “very tough fighters” from the dream MW tourney is well on his way to becoming the latest overhyped asian import to completely embarrass himself and wash out of the UFC in his first few fights/
I’m not impressed.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Have you watched him fight?
I get sick of hearing about lists all the time… He won the DREAM Middleweight GP. That’s a real title. Having ever been on an MMAWeekly top ten list is not something fighters take photos of to show their children some day. The point is that Kang, Shango, Jacare and Manhoef are all recent quality wins. And Gegard would crush Leben. It’s a very strange argument to make..
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 15, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Citing Manhoef as a quality win = failure. He lost to a guy who was 0-4.
This is exactly the kind of nonsense I am talking about. Mousasi looks great because he’s fighting terrible, terrible fighters.
Let me know when he beats someone I should give a shit about.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Until then, enjoy browsing Sherdog fight finder, it sounds like that is your primary knowledge base for assessing MMA fighters.
by smoogy on Feb 15, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t seen all of Mousasi’s fights, but I watched several of them last night before I posted this. In my opinion, it’s what he’s done against solid to very good opponents at the age of 23 that’s impressive to me. He’s excellent at a lot of facets of the game. Mousasi is very good and should get even better.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 15, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Again, you’re being fooled by the fact that his opponents are completely sub par. Nobody he has beaten would make it in the UFC. See: Denis Kang, soon to wash out in shame.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Make no mistake. I’m not fooled. I’m simply making a judgment based on what I’ve seen, and I have taken into account the opponents in question.
by Cannon Jacques on Feb 15, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re being fooled if you think beating guys like denis kang means he’s a credible threat to Anderson Silva. I don’t know if you actually think that but that’s the argument you jumped into, perhaps unwittingly.
by pumaman on Feb 15, 2009 11:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, we have another hater thread. Guy gets an article written about him and he is:
a) too lazy to cut weight
b) accused of steroids
c) beating cans and not that good
I should have known seeing 50+ comments about a non UFC fighter.
by bignerd on Feb 16, 2009 2:34 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Apparently accusing fighters of doing steroids because they don’t fight for the promotion you’re employed by is just fine… but name-calling is not.
by smoogy on Feb 16, 2009 3:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice to see you guys have each other for support =)
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 16, 2009 3:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What a bizzare decision for Mousasi. It’s amazing how these fighters buy into their own hype. Mousasi was not the best middle weight in the tournament — Jackare would easily take care of him in a rematch. What this boils down to is the ‘BJ Syndrome’: I’m so damn good that I don’t have to cut weight anymore. Maybe he can get by Buentello, but he ain’t going much further than that.
I blame all the simple minded fans who inflamed his ego, ‘Fighter of the Year’, give me a fucking break, luckiest fighter of the year is more appropriate. BTW, I used to like this guy but nothing pisses me off more than this kind of egotism.
I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.
by mma_dude on Feb 16, 2009 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was at the Affliction event. I can understand why he doesn’t think he can make weight at 185. The guy was bigger than Jardine.
by bignerd on Feb 16, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
(Alternative Analysis)
What a genius move: getting out of the underpaying, overly competitive, organization, and moving to the overpaying, under competitive, organization. I hope he can grab a big chunk of that pie. And the real beauty of it, is that he won’t even have to train too hard.
Nice move Mousasi :)
I'm just a dude who's trying to put it together.
by mma_dude on Feb 16, 2009 2:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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