Dana White Headed to Quebec to Save UFC 97
by Kid Nate on Feb 14, 2009 4:22 PM EST
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FightOpinion reports:
According to a new post at Corus Sports, there will reportedly be a meeting next week between the RACJ (which oversees the Quebec Boxing Commission) and UFC President Dana White in regards to what rules UFC would have to abide under for the April 19th event in Montreal at the Bell Centre. The report claims that this meeting will either make or break the event from taking place.
Both Jason MacDonald and Joe Ferraro are hopeful that cooler heads will prevail. The Canadian Press? Maybe not so bullish.
Richard Labbé of La Presse, which is a big French-language newspaper in Canada, seconds what the Corus Sports report claims and says that it was White (not the QBC) that asked for the meeting to save the show. La Presse quotes Réjean Thériault, who has been adamant about the QBC going back to pre-Unified rules, stating that the rules the QBC would be going back to are similar to those in Ontario (where MMA currently isn’t legislated). Thériault is insisting on no knees or elbows.
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Thériault is also quoted as saying that ‘the old administration’ of the QBC was tolerant of the Unified Rules, but that the laws the QBC wants to enforce now are the same ones that have always been on the books. Again paraphasing him, he told La Press that if the UFC wants to run a show at the Bell Centre, they will have to follow the rules. Thériault is not publicly wavering yet on the possibility of UFC canceling the event.
The Toronto Sun has a little more on the lameness of the rules Quebec is trying to enforce:
This is a really lame situation. I wonder if Dana is learning how to say "So you wanna be a f***ing commission" in French.The Quebec regulations, which appear to have been ignored in past Quebec MMA shows, forbid elbow and knee strikes -- hitting an opponent with the bent knee or bent elbow is deemed a foul.
The rules also say that if a fighter is knocked down, the referee must send his opponent to a neutral corner. They also forbid judo-type throws -- "using any other part of the body than the hands, arms, feet or legs, to make an opponent fall."
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do these fucking idiots not realize how much money sporting events like this bring in to the town???
by dbcb on Feb 14, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do these fucking idiots not realize that they already have an agreement in place for UFC 97 in Quebec and that if they want to make changes they can do it afterward?
by jebushchrist on Feb 14, 2009 11:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Feb 14, 2009 11:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous… “‘the old administration’ of the QBC was tolerant of the Unified Rules, but that the laws the QBC wants to enforce now are the same ones that have always been on the books.” The laws the QBC refer to in NO WAY disallow knee and elbow strikes, or any strike for that matter. The law is worded in such a way as each commission can allow certain kinds of strikes at their discretion. What has happened here is the incoming president just wants to throw his weight around; it’s pathetic political posturing at the most. Unfortunately his petty game may seriously cripple professional MMA in Canada.
by gavingavinkindgavin on Feb 14, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yea it really sounds like political grandstanding that is bound to fail in a big way. I can’t see the UFC running an event outside of the unified rules and the ones that will be losing out on money is the athletic commission and the city. Lets face it the UFC can move the whole thing to Vegas(or any number of locations) on a moments notice and still make big money off it.
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They also forbid judo-type throws — “using any other part of the body than the hands, arms, feet or legs, to make an opponent fall.”
WTF? Do they expect fighters to get takedowns by just pushing the other guy over?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 14, 2009 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do they expect fighters to get takedowns by just pushing the other guy over?
they could huff and they could puff and blow him over.
so does that just cancel out hip throws? technically a seoinagi is a ‘hand throw’ if my judo memory serves me right.
but how can you get rid of judo throws, elbows, and knees? “hey. this is canada, we wanna completely reform the UFC for shows here.” LAME!
by snet tim on Feb 14, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rediculous….just hold the show in detroit or something and that way most of the ppl that bought tickets allready can still go….fuck that commission and i hope dana tells them to kiss his ass…be cool if they moved it somewhere else in canada tho just to piss off the quebec commission
by baldspot23 on Feb 14, 2009 1:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Quest que fuck du cavre calice tabernac cris!
by Ubernoober on Feb 14, 2009 3:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
que la baise fait-elle ce moyen ?
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Feb 14, 2009 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This sounds like a shakedown for a higher percentage to me.
by Michael Rome on Feb 14, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds about right, considering the monster business the previous UFC in Montreal did. It just doesn’t make sense to all of a sudden bring up laws that (apparently) hadn’t been enforced until now. Dana will get it done. I’m sure the show will still go on. The QBC would be stupid not to let it.
by pud333 on Feb 14, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The answer to all of your questions is ‘money’.
by subo on Feb 14, 2009 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
QFT
… and pretty sad with it.
by VikingPhotography on Feb 15, 2009 2:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t be surprised. The Quebec Provincial government is the second-most corrupt in Canada (behind Alberta).
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Feb 15, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Veux-tu faire de combat, enculé?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 14, 2009 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The commissioner just wanted to see his name in the sports section and try and secure a higher percentage for the commission, little does he know he may have just robbed the commission of their entire percentage as well as removing millions of dollars from the municipal economy vis a vis hotels ,restaurants, auto rentals, taxis, shops and stores etc. That said I dont think the chamber of commerce will let that happen.
YAMATO DAMASHII
by R.T. on Feb 14, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Canadians need to get ahold of their politicians...
We do in America too, but srsly, you guys can make your voice heard and talk to your representatives. Let them know if they don’t support MMA and the unified rules that you WILL VOTE for the person running against them next election.
The only thing in the entire world politicians fear is losing their jobs. Period.
by Dexerion on Feb 14, 2009 4:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some of you guys need a lesson on Canadian government
Quebec is a province of Canada. All the other provinces have nothing to do with Quebec’s elected officials.
All this “fuck the frenchies”, “stupid Canucks” stuff reflects pretty poorly on the MMA crowd.
by smoogy on Feb 14, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please point me to any "fuck the frenchies" comments
They would be inappropriate for BE standards. As far as I’ve seen you’re the first commenter here to use the slur “canuck”.
And Dexerion’s comment seems to be entirely reasonable even if he says Canadians rather than specifying Quebecois. There are plenty of Canadian officials that need to get lined out — especially the commissioner in Ontario.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
by Kid Nate on Feb 14, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t Quebecois an insult in Canada?
I kid, I kid!
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 14, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, from now on it’ll be more than just the commissioner in Ontario…
I don’t think smoogy is referring to comments made on BE exclusively, although just a few posts above, someone wrote something like “fucking french Canadians”. I’ve read similar comments being made on various MMA sites comments and I don’t like them. Being french Canadian myself, i know that some of these comments are not only ignorant, but actually hateful.
Believe me, we’re just as angry about the whole situation as anybody else.
by NinjaCodah on Feb 14, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
post a link
slurs, threats and politics are the things we don’t tolerate at BE.
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
by Kid Nate on Feb 14, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Take away UFC 97 from them. Simple as that. Give it to some city like Miami. Screw the Canucks.”
Canuck is not a slur necessarily. But my point was that its ignorant to blame French Canadians, Canadians in general, or any variation of the two. The only people anyone should be directing their anger at are the commission members who are being so peculiar about enforcing the rules.
I don’t consider myself particularly sensitive, but remarks like that are absolutely prejudiced. It would be like reacting to the regulation problems in NY by saying “screw those latte-sipping metrosexuals and their trailer trash country!”
by smoogy on Feb 14, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, there are plenty of French-Canadians outside of Quebec, just like a lot of English speaking people live in Montreal.
by smoogy on Feb 14, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
sure thing
the objectionable comments have been removed. sorry about missing them
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
by Kid Nate on Feb 15, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it might be just a joke, but in this thread there was this:
“I’m thinking Atlantic City NJ, fucking french Canadians. Anybody else think Dana looks suspiciously like Howie Mandell in this pic.” by “despisedIcon856”
again i’m not saying BE is condoning this kind of behavior, but I think i’m more susceptible to find these comments offensive and completely retarded when i find them…
by NinjaCodah on Feb 14, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we pulled those comments
"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"
by Kid Nate on Feb 15, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude I was kidding, I have lived in Montreal I have no problem with Canadians or French ones, laugh a little man.
by despisedIcon856 on Feb 18, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Problem: the Athletic Comissioners are bureaucrats. They can’t be hired and fired just based on what the politicians want. Canada does take that whole separation of politics and bureaucracy seriously. This is in no way a political decision, nor can the politicians overly influence the decision of the commission.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Feb 15, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where is GSP in all of this? You’d think that being such star and from the region in question that he’d be one of the guys to go there with Dana, let alone publicly rebuking the decision.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 14, 2009 4:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t want to see this lame ass QBC style MMA, never EVER.
“Veux-tu faire de combat, enculé?”
Lol ou plutot comme on dit chez nous, MDR!
Though I don’t know how they (you?) say it , in france we would say “veux tu te battre, enculé?” rather than “veux tu faire du combat, enculé”, it’s like saying “to do fight” instead of “to fight”. I’m always having a good time hearing french in quebec.
by spectaa on Feb 14, 2009 8:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m from southern Louisiana, but taught by many differently-accented teachers, so my grammar is sufficient but sloppy. I tried to translate “Do you wanna be a fucking fighter?” and that was the best I could do. Your way does make more sense.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 14, 2009 9:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so encule' means asshole?
Literal or slang?
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Feb 14, 2009 8:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s slang and either a verb or a noun – it means “motherfucker” or “assfucker” or anything equivalent, really.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Feb 14, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spectaa, how's my french? It's my first time speaking it, so I'm not sure if all the words are in order.
Ils devraient prendre l’événement à partir du Québec, pour le simple fait que des règles ont été changées après l’accord initial
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Feb 14, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And in any language
fuck the commission, not Canada
baisez la commission, pas Canada
bumsen Sie die Kommission, nicht Canada
fuck de commissie, niet Canada
fuck η επιτροπή, όχι Καναδάς
scopi la commissione, non Canada
任務、ないカナダと性交しなさい
임무, 캐나다를 아닙니다 성교하십시오
foda a comissão, não Canadá
fuck комиссия, не Канада
coja a la comisión, no Canadá
"The path to enlightenment is through suffering"
by RearNakedChoker on Feb 14, 2009 8:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I am Canadian…..and proud to be.. and I love MMA….. this is happening because of the new management of QBC not because of Canada or Canadians as a whole….. as RearNakedChocker states “Fuck the commission, not Canada”
by amgine on Feb 14, 2009 9:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How about, “Fuck certain Canadians, who may or may not be French Canadians, but who attempt to run an athletic commission but do so in a horribly incompetent way.”
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 14, 2009 10:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is Dana is going to go not just to see if they can get a deal, but probably to make a threat of a major lawsuit. There are serious reliance issues here, and allowing the first show to go on no questions asked is very obvious grounds.
by Michael Rome on Feb 14, 2009 9:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think there has to be some sort of threat that can be made because the last show was allowed to go on.
If these are the rules as they are (and were) written, didn’t the commission do something wrong by letting GSP elbow and knee the shit out of Serra?
by Phildo on Feb 15, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Heh they should have Serra threaten a lawsuit.
by Michael Rome on Feb 15, 2009 6:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When did Armando Garcia move to Quebec???
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Feb 15, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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