What the new Strikeforce roster might look like...
by smoogy on Feb 13, 2009 6:48 PM EST
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This is something I pulled together for my forum, using the last few EliteXC and Strikeforce cards plus their online rosters for reference. I have no inside information on which fighters they culled from the EliteXC roster, this is just my best guess. I figured it might make for an interesting conversation piece.
Heavyweight:
Alistair Overeem
Paul Buentello
Dave Herman
Brett Rogers
Shane Del Rosario
Kimbo Slice
Ricco Rodriguez
Bob Sapp
Tank Abbott
Maurice Smith
Daniel Puder
Jon Murphy
Carl Seumanutafa
Mike Cook
Light Heavyweight:
Renato Sobral
Rafael Feijao
Jarred Hamman
Bobby Southworth
Paoi Suganuma
Mamed Khalidov
Cyril Diabate
Aaron Rosa
Jaime Fletcher
Seth Petruzelli
Middleweight:
Cung Le
Robbie Lawler
Jorge Santiago
Kazuo Misaki
Frank Shamrock
Benji Radach
Scott Smith
Joey Villasenor
Trevor Prangley
Falaniko Vitale
Riki Fukuda
Terry Martin
Cyborg Santos
Dennis Hallman
Anthony Ruiz
Luke Rockhold
Alexander Shlemenko
Kala Hose
Cory Devela
Givanildo Santana
Jaime Jara
Kyle Noke
Nik Theotikos
Welterweight:
Paul Daley
Nick Thompson
Nick Diaz
Joe Riggs
Duane Ludwig
Phil Baroni
Ross Ebanez
Luke Stewart
Eric Bradley
Brian Schwartz
Lemont Davis
Lightweight:
Josh Thomson
K.J. Noons
Eddie Alvarez
Mitsuhiro Ishida
Gilbert Milendez
Jorge Masvidal
Yves Edwards
Jorge Gurgel
Conor Heun
Billy Evangelista
Fabricio Camoes
Muhsin Corbbrey
Edson Berto
Malaipet Team Diamond
Bobby McMaster
Douglas Evans
Featherweight/Bantamweight:
Wilson Reis
Bao Quach
Bryan Caraway
Mark Oshiro
Nam Phan
Women:
Gina Carano
Cristiane Santos
Kaitlin Young
Miesha Tate
Kelly Kobold
Michelle Waterson
Kim Couture
Shayna Baszler
Tonya Evinger
Julie Kedzie
Rosi Sexton
Debi Purcell
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Middleweight looks strong… Jorge Santiago all day,
by Nick Thomas on Feb 13, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Until he gases or somebody punches him. ;-)
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 13, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You think Trigg will sign with Strikeforce?
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 13, 2009 7:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually, yes. He might already have a contract. I should have added Trigg and Jason Miller.
by smoogy on Feb 13, 2009 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can add Frank Trigg.
Jason Miller/Kala Hose winner.
So, you can add Mayhem.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the hell do you center-align stuff with this editor?
by smoogy on Feb 13, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In HTML editor:
< p class=“content-c”> Your Text < /p>
no space before “p class” or before “/p”
I will play my game beneath the spin light.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Feb 13, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does Sapp weigh?
by I don't wear mma t-shirts on Feb 13, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sapp weighs around 375lbs, he isn’t cutting down to heavyweight unless it involves a bone saw.
by who me on Feb 13, 2009 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Once he digests the babies he eats for breakfast, sure…
by SamCupitt on Feb 13, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tito
I wonder the likelihood of Tito Ortiz signing with Strikeforce once he’s fully healed.
Even if his fighting skills are rather lackluster these days, he’s still a huge draw, and could really help Strikeforce.
by Randomus on Feb 13, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
No way
With his monetary demands? Don’t count on it.
by Blackout612 on Feb 13, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
On top of his other demands, like commentating and managerial positions. It’s almost enough to make me think that he’s with Vadim too.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 13, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to let Ortiz be an official promoter, that’s fine, IMO, but don’t let that fool commentate again!
During the Day of Reckoning event, people were booing him every time he began to talk on the mic, and I don’t think that’d change in the future. (It’s true that people were overly kind to him at the weigh-ins of the event, but it was a train wreck I don’t want to see take place again.)
by Randomus on Feb 13, 2009 8:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Coker has said he wants to sit down and talk to Tito(Frank Shamrock wants that fight) but with Tito’s contract demands and the fact that Coker is business smart enough not to fall for them who knows if anything will come of it.
by who me on Feb 13, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
185, Women (assuming Gina, of course) and 155 look pretty great
170 and 220 could be decent with a little boost. 205 is a fuckin ghost town and Reis’ class is too thin.
by Blackout612 on Feb 13, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
does anyone know if feijao is 1 of the 40+ fighters strikeforce got in the deal. he is someone that i would love to see in the ufc someday for competiton sake.
by bdw on Feb 13, 2009 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he was. He will fight Babalu for the LHW title is the rumor.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 8:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
supremacy
that sounds like an awesome match-up, but what about after that? none of those name on that list seem to be even close to babalu or feijao’s league. 1 step at a time i guess.
by bdw on Feb 13, 2009 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hanman and Khalidov are two up and coming LHW’s that should challenge for the belt.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shane Del Rosario is another top prospect that may drop to LHW.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey look, it’s the second best roster on Earth! As long as Strikeforce is happy with their champions and dominant fighters being courted/going to the UFC – and they should, as it would do nothing but help their brand – they should be successful.
MW and LW are comparable in top talent but not in depth. That LHW title is literally for 11th best LHW in the world. I’m just happy that they’re not dreaming of competing with the organization that created the industry.
by subo on Feb 13, 2009 8:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gee, thanks. For a second there we almost forgot about the UFC.
Tone down the cheerleading a bit.
by smoogy on Feb 13, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey Subo thanks for yet another comparison to the UFC.
P.S. I would take Feijao to upset MANY UFC LHWs.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 8:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hey MMASuPreMaCy, thanks for yet another comparison to the UFC.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 13, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was the point to Subo’s comment.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then you added:
P.S. I would take Feijao to upset MANY UFC LHWs.
If you legitimately have a problem with Subo turning this topic into another battleground regarding Zuff vs. non-Zuffa MMA, then you shouldn’t include that little quip.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Feb 13, 2009 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Funny coming from someone that seems to inject org comparisons into half the discussions.
Perhaps we all could give up on the silly and irrelevant comparisons for a while?
by who me on Feb 13, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Then what the hell would we do with our time?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 13, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t we just make fun of one organization at a time? :D
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that you readily call it an upset..
..is indicative of your flip-side (to Subo’s) philosophy on the world of MMA. I love Feijao, and where he could be in a year or so, but I wouldn’t pick him to beat most anyone in the top 5-7 of UFC’s 205 division.
by Blackout612 on Feb 13, 2009 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious who you think he couldn’t beat and why?
I think he fares well against a good number of them.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 14, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
I’m not the one that made the call, so I’m not going to argue it. Maybe tell me who he would upset?
by Blackout612 on Feb 14, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Smoogie, These Fighters Could Also Be Added To Your List
LHW:
Wayne Cole
MW:
Bubba McDaniel
Frank Trigg
Mayhem Miller/Kala Hose Winner
Tiawan Howard
WW:
Raymond Daniels
Erik Apple
Mark Miller
Matt Makowski
Mike Stumpf
Lorenzo Borgomeo
Torrance Taylor
LW:
Thomas “Wildman” Denny
David “Tarzan” Douglas
Mike Aina
Victor “Joe Boxer” Valuenzela
Lyle Beerbohm
Rafaello “The Tractor” Olivera
Marlon Mathias
Kaleo Kwan
BW/FW:
Abel Cullum
Doug Evans
Zach Makovsky
Nick Denis
Bobby McMasters
Andres Soares
Justin Robbins
Womens:
Sarah Kaufman
Marloes Coenen
Takayo Hashi
Yoko Takahashi
Carina Damm
Keiko Tamai
Melanie Lacroix
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 13, 2009 8:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wish they had Sarah.
Sarah Kaufman (7-0, all TKO’s) signs a three fight contract with the Palace Fighting Championships with her first fight is scheduled for May 19.
by Nick Thomas on Feb 13, 2009 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I know She Signed with EliteXC before that...
But she never fought for them, so I am not sure if she was even an option for strikeforce.
Wilson Reis and Eddie Alvarez ALSO signed with other orgs, but Strikeforce is still claiming them.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Feb 14, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad...
someone mentioned Lyle “Fancy Pants” Beerbohm. I love that guy! Did you know that his mom makes him Hamburger Helper before every one of his fights??
The best part about that factoid is that I learned that from his last fight when I talked about it during the pre-fight intros (you know the one where the fighters make bold predicitions and talk smack). Also, he told the story behind his nickname. Oh yeah, and his mom made the neon shorts that he fights in.
Oh yeah, and he is undefeated. I want to see more of this guy!
by flassasin24 on Feb 14, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What about Jake Shields?
I assumed that in the conference call with Coker (I think I read it on cagepotato.com) when he referenced “one fighter” wanted to go to the UFC, but he thought that the negotiations were going well to get him to stay, he was talking about Jake Shields. There are some good fights for Shields in Strikeforce, but personallly, I would rather see him and his two girlfriends in the UFC.
by I don't wear mma t-shirts on Feb 13, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t be surprised to see Bobby Lashley at some point.
Also, Tito wouldn’t surprise me. he can’t miss out being on network tv can he??
If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.
by BJJDenver on Feb 14, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
It depends on Tito’s asking price. Coker isn’t stupid enough to pay Tito what Tito wants but maybe Tito will be smart enough to ask for something more reasonable if he really does want to fight Frank Shamrock(that would be a real CBS main event).
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 5:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The problem:
Tito thinks he’s the only one that really knows he’s not the fighter he used to be. That’s why all of this back surgery shit is eye roll enducing; he’s trying to be a salesman and boost his cost, and he’s just driving his cost down.
by Blackout612 on Feb 14, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bullocks
Tito’s monetary demands, as previously mentioned, are too rich for Strikeforce’s blood. They’ve made it quite clear that they don’t desire to compete on the same level as the UFC. Signings like Tito are not reasonable unless they’re sharing the burden of his cost. Reference the comments Coker recently made regarding the possibility of a guy like Fedor fighting on Strikeforce.
by Blackout612 on Feb 14, 2009 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s talk about some other fighters. Do you expect to offer Tito Ortiz a contract?
Yeah, sure. We haven’t had a sit-down with Tito, but for sure we should have that sit-down with Tito. Our company’s expectations and goals have just changed as of last Thursday and I think we should have that conversation with him, but it hasn’t happened yet.
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 8:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he wouldn't say no
There’s no sense in that. He’s being very congenial and world-loving at the moment, because it’s the right thing to do. I’m sure he’d meet with Tito, but I can promise you that unless Tito’s head shrinks (figuratively, but may as well be literal) there is no way he’d accept the type of offer Coker and co would make him.
"I hit [Evensen], and you could just see it in his head. He went, 'Oh, man. We don't have to do this anymore. I'm good. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go home now." -Pat "The Real Techno Viking" Berry
by Blackout612 on Feb 14, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I agree that Coker won’t pay Tito what Tito wants but then Tito might change his tune as he finds out there just isn’t any better offers to be had and it would get him on CBS. It’s a long shot but there is always a chance that reality may one day sink in with him.
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grouping all of the female fighters under a Women division isn’t fair. The “Karate Hottie” is giving up almost 30 pounds to Gina.
I think the unified rules specify the weight classes for women. It’d be interesting to break the female roster down by weight.
by rabrown on Feb 14, 2009 6:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
While I agree completly with that there is a lack of enough talent in women’s MMA to completly fill out multiple weight classes currently. I expect in the future it will grow into more weight classes(hopefully quickly).
by who me on Feb 14, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem & Khalidov
Overeem doesn’t have a contract with Strikeforce and Mamed Khalidov was released from his ProElite contract so it couldn’t be bought by Strikeforce
It’s interesting where Alvarez and Reis will go, both scheduled to fight in Bellator
by Venom77 on Feb 14, 2009 7:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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