Karo Parisyan's Win Over Dong Hyun Kim Could Be Ruled a No Contest
by Luke Thomas on Feb 12, 2009 12:34 PM EST
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Once again, Fighters Only magazine has the scoop:
“[When] there is a failed drug test, the commission at its discretion could overturn a victory or draw and make it a no contest. We have actually done that a few times, that is the most common of the four [grounds for overturning the decision].”
Parisyan will appear in front of the commission next Tuesday to explain why he had threee different opiate sin his system at the time of the UFC 94 fight.
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However, Kizer says that even if the drugs do turn out to have been prescribed, it is unlikely to mitigate the length of ban that Parisyan is likely to be handed.
My greatest fear is that the suspension will do little to Karo except further exacerbate his existing problems. In truth, though, the length of the suspension is hardly the crux of the matter; whether Karo is legitimately committed to changing his life seems far more the salient issue.
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I still cannot, for the life of me, understand how Karo even won that decision. That was purely bogus.
"A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on." - Sir Winston Churchill
by FlyByKnight on Feb 12, 2009 12:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Was about to post the same thing, he’s lucky it’s gonna be a NC and not a loss like I had it scored.
by Buddha Brown on Feb 12, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how did Kim win?
He only won the first round… did nothing after that… Karo tossed him, and controlled most of the second and third round’s positioning… KIM DID NOTHING.
PPL hate karo so much, but with all the “disputes” over that fight noone has said why Kim should’ve won…. He barely threw, and outside of controlling position did no damage to karo…
by Loot on Feb 12, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...from the live results thread...
Here is how I scored it:
Karo Parisyan vs. Dong Hyun Kim – Round 1 – Kim eats a glancing right hand early but he gets a takedown quickly and is in Karo’s guard. He lands a couple punches and Karo rolls and stands but Kim has his back standing. He’s just riding Karo’s back landing a couple punches. Karo is half spitting his mouthpiece out already and his mouth is open. His mouthpiece is now out. Kim is landing some punches and Karo is foced to stand back up. Back to the ground they go and now Kim goes ror an armbar but Karo rolls out and is now on top. Triangle looked deep but Karo slid out. They stand back up and Kim gets another takedown…he is straight manhandling Karo now. They stand back up and a right hook lands for Kim. 10-9 round that was close to 10-8 if Kim had done a bit more damage. Round 2 – High kick just misses for Kim. Three punch combo by Karo is blocked. Karo tries for a takedown and is spun against the cage. Scramble as Karo works for an armlock but neither guy gets position and they’re back to standing. Karo’s mouthpiece is out again. Beautiful judo throw by Karo and he is in side control now. Kim stands up without taking any damage. It’s a better round for Parisyan but he has to do some damage here. Time out to throw Karo’s mouthpice in and he is warned that he will lose a point if it comes out again. Right hand by Karo lands solidly. Right hand again for Karo. 10-9 round for Karo and it is tied on my scorecard. Round 3 – Takedown by Kim and Karo tries to push him away with an upkick but Kim was not up so Karo gets a warning. Kim with another takedown and he takes Karo’s back but Karo is able to get out of it and they’re standing with Karo’s back against the cage. Karo is able to spin him and tries a jumping knee that misses. Single attempt by Karo but he isn’t able to finish. Kim tries for a takedown which Karo avoids by grabbing the fence. They’re still pressed against the fence and it really would be an appropriate time to separate them with a minute left in the fight. The round ends and I guess I give it to Kim…not an exciting fight. 10-9 Kim giving him the fight 29-28 on the BloodyElbow card. Official Scorecards – 29-28 Parisyan, 29-28 Kim, 29-28 Parisyan. Karo Parisyan wins by split decision.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't recall
The two takedown for Kim in the last round…. I could be wrong, but I remember thinking that Karo did JUST enough to win… I’d have to rewatch I suppose.
by Loot on Feb 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The kick trip at the end
tricked you just like it did the judges
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 12, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe So...
Mixed with the fact that “Positional” control in the case of Kim left me really wanting more… Like he had dominant position a few times, and did so little… I think maybe the trip, and the throw from Karo was the most damage in the fight, and therefore i thought he won?
I still haven’t re-watched it, but I will shortly.
by Loot on Feb 12, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not bashing you
I told my buddy while we were watching it that the kick trip would win Karo the fight. Because everything Kim did was in the first half of the round and as it stalled out all was forgotten.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 12, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't a good enough performance...
by either guy to claim a “robbery” in my eyes.
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Robbery from the fans…
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
by iiowyn on Feb 12, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The round 3 replay shown:
The production crew thought Kim won at least.
Those are the only effective strikes I saw in the round. Karo had Kim’s back on the cage for a couple minutes, but didn’t finish a single takedown.
by smoogy on Feb 12, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s the obvious conclusion to arrive at, given the history of the NSAC.
"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
by Brett Jones on Feb 12, 2009 12:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It sucks..
because Karo needs to be punished but punishment is likely not going to get the message through. He was so quick to start blaming the commission even before they handed down any punishment that it is clear he doesn’t think he did anything wrong.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2009 12:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he has bigger problems than getting a decision overturned and getting suspended.
Seeing this shit first hand, I think the karo some people like is gone forever.
by dbcb on Feb 12, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Punishment
would be locking him a room without windows and taking his junk away.
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 12, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think highly of Karo, although unlike everyone, I saw how he got the nod in the Yoshida fight, although, I don’t think either of them really “won” that fight. I hope Karo gets his shit straight, and I want the best for anyone who throws down, but I won’t lose any sleep if he never fights again.
by kyfm621 on Feb 12, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was fighting Okami, not Yoshida.
by Michaelthebox on Feb 12, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lol At least my screw up was in the same weightclass.
by kyfm621 on Feb 12, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, it wasn’t Okami, but you’re thinking Akiyama.
by Michaelthebox on Feb 12, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is this an actual magazine?
“threee different opiate sin”
They made that many errors in 1 sentence?
by DirtyML on Feb 12, 2009 1:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you test positive for roids or painkillers after a win, the win shouldn’t count. I like Karo a lot more than I do Barnett, but the same rule has to apply here.
by subo on Feb 12, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If they don’t overturn it, they bring into question the legitmacy of the NSAC. It would be like saying weed is a performance enhancer, but steroids or an opiate cocktail aren’t.
by smoogy on Feb 12, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But Barnett's win DID count...
Meaning it wasn’t ruled a NC… or am I misremembering?
same with Timmy…
by Loot on Feb 12, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i believe the rule changed over time. I don’t think it was possible for Barnett or Sylvia, but it is now.
by Phildo on Feb 12, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree: BOGUS decision
Yes, this sucks.
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by MackAttack on Feb 12, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i wonder if sportsbook.com will give me my 20 bucks back, i doubt it. on the bright side i feel vindicated in picking Kim. Stop Cheating Karo, its not nice.
by #5mmafan on Feb 12, 2009 2:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
junkies don't worry
about nice
Gimme 1 Round!
by skwirrl on Feb 12, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Your best bet...
e-mail them once it is officially overturned and tell them that the result was a no-contest and there is a decent chance that they’ll refund you. I’ve had bodog refund me in a similar situation
Contributing Editor - BloodyElbow.com - SBNation's mixed martial arts headquarters.
by Brent Brookhouse on Feb 12, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Karo fan, but
this is starting to look very bad for him. I really hope he gains a better perspecitve and gets help.
by Razreshat on Feb 12, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Moot
I pretty much already called that fight a no contest after watching the lackluster performances of both fighters. I ope this controversy ends soon so I can go back to forgetting about this fight.
by Thunder Lips on Feb 12, 2009 4:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How terrible was Stun Gun in this fight that he couldn’t finish or even look good against Karo?
Not good for him either. This after Matt Brown almost finished him. Matt Brown!
by Bigperm on Feb 12, 2009 4:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
However, Kizer says that even if the drugs do turn out to have been prescribed, it is unlikely to mitigate the length of ban that Parisyan is likely to be handed.
Thank you Keith for proving me right once again you are officially as inept and unfit for your job as the guy who ran the CSAC into the ground. Strike 1 was the Nick Diaz bullshit overturn, strike 2 was the ridiculous comments about Nate The Great and now strike three is this one. We have a huge problem going on with the Athletic Commission which is threatening the sport of MMA and someone needs to try and call these guys out on their bs before it’s too late.
by Raker on Feb 12, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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