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Karo Parisyan Tests Positive for Multiple Painkillers

MMAMania has the scoop:

Former number one welterweight contender, Karo Parisyan, has tested positive for several painkillers, including Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone and Oxymorphone, following his controversial split decision win over Dong Hyun “Stun Gun” Kim at UFC 94: “St. Pierre vs. Penn 2” at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Jan. 31.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) today passed along the results to MMAmania.com.

“The Heat” has been battling a nervous disorder, as well as injuries, which forced him out of a match against Yoshiyuki Yoshida less than 24 hours before showtime back in September 2008.

According to MMAMania, no other fighters tested from this card popped positive for any illegal or banned substances.

I talked with Mania before posting this and it is our understanding that a fighter cannot be taking painkillers prior to a fight to mitigate the ill effects of an injury or rigorous training. And even if Parisyan were to have disclosed this information prior to the bout, that candor would only have made his inability to fight official.

For longtime fans of Parisyan, his trajectory has been a very bitter pill to swallow. His quadricep injury prior to his title shot with Hughes was forgivable, but Parisyan has never seemed to rebound from the setback. By both design and accident, Parisyan is continually taking actions that jeopardize his career. What happens next is up to the UFC, the NSAC and Parisyan himself. I certainly hope he is able to get the help is so desperately needs.

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I hope nobody really finds this shocking. Karo is seemingly turning into Paulo Filho, Vitor Belfort (who really had a legitimate excuse) as a guy who has all the talent in the world but his mental estate has effected him to a whole new level.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 10, 2009 3:00 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

/facepalm

by dbcb on Feb 10, 2009 3:01 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

What happens to the decision?

Does the win get over turned? NC?

by Discman2 on Feb 10, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Probably NC if the Nick Diaz NC against Gomi is any indication

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Feb 10, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so, but that would be assuming the SACs dole out equal punishment in these situations, which isn’t always the case.

by smoogy on Feb 10, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It was a terrible decision anyway

Guess we aren’t going to see Karo-Koschek now. That sucks.

by SplitBreast on Feb 10, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I blame Reggie Warren Jr.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Feb 10, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

lol

Karo should of never messed with Reggie Warren.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Feb 10, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stun Gun still undefeated!

Oxy? Yikes..that’s hard to kick.

by Bigperm on Feb 10, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Stun Gun still undefeated!

That’s the big story here. I really don’t care about Karo anymore, it’s just sad.

by Chris Nelson on Feb 10, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stun Gun still undefeated!

The shine is really off him though. He has some huge strides to make if he’s ever to be a top-tier WW.

by Michaelthebox on Feb 10, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He is already borderline top 10. He needs a strength and conditioning coach if he doesn’t already have one, in his last two fights he kind of pooped out after the first round.

by smoogy on Feb 10, 2009 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He could also use some striking training. The dude is really tall and lanky but doesn’t use his length as well as he could.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 10, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

After a split decision win over Matt Brown, and a split decision loss to an obviously fucked up Karo?

He’s borderline top 20, IMO.

by Michaelthebox on Feb 10, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

He also TKO’d Jason Tan in his first UFC fight; in Japan, he knocked out Hasegawa and drew with him in a rematch.

by Chris Nelson on Feb 10, 2009 5:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Two tough matches, there.

by Michaelthebox on Feb 10, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Any chance Stun Gun would get a DQ win?

Cause that would really give me a huge jump in the betting game. Hell, I might atcually win. :)

by Dexerion on Feb 10, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly!!!!!

HA!

I am the bastard love child of Junie Browning and Diamond Dave Kaplan.

by The_Gaijin on Feb 10, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn this sucks. I don’t LIKE Karo, but he’s got undeniable talent. But I think at this point it’s clear that he’s a headcase. I don’t mean that to be derogatory, but what is going on between his ears is sabotaging what could be a great fighter. We’ve seen that so many times before; some people just aren’t built right mentally to handle the fight game at the highest level.

"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."

by AJB on Feb 10, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Other than being a great judo player,

what exactly is he for MMA? He has never really shown anything that translates to being a dangerous MMA fighter. I have really disliked him as a person for a while because of his antics & after this it just seals it for me.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wel, according to Joe Rogan he is stronger than a guerilla so..

by Bigperm on Feb 10, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, as long as that is all

it takes I guess he is good then.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If he’s really got some sort of addiction to painkillers, is he still going to Montreal? Cause’ we got socialized health care up here, so he could probably get his fix easier. And free.

by bubbafat on Feb 10, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Feb 10, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Remember what the Bible says: He who is without sin, cast the first rock. And I shall smoketh it.

by Day Man on Feb 10, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol, nice!

If you're not submitting, you're just rolling around with another guy.

by BJJDenver on Feb 10, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hydrocodone is a semi-synthetic opiate derivative that is used as a prescription painkiller under brand names such as Vicodin.

Hydromorphone, another powerful prescription painkiller, is derived from morphine and is approximately three times stronger than heroin when compared on a milligram for milligram basis.

Oxymorphone is similar to Hydromorphone but is regarded as more potentially addictive; it has a following among recreational drug users for the intense high it produces, although when used for genuine pain-relief it is not so habit-forming.

by Nick Thomas on Feb 10, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

This just really comes at a bad time

for MMA in my opinion. Not that anything good could come from testing positive for a banned substance, but after recent events with MMA guys it certainly cast a dark shadow.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think its time we forget about Karo as a real player in the WW division. The landscape changes every day, and it may be a long time before he’s back to peak condition. By then the game may have already passed him by.

by Michaelthebox on Feb 10, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think it is time we just forget him in MMA period

& allow him to go back to Judo competition only. Other than decisioning the crap out of us, what has he ever done except for constantly say “bro”?

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That’s like saying that Mark Kerr is a has been. I’m insulted. He will be a HW champ again. I feel it.

by bubbafat on Feb 10, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

next fight

I personaly, cannot wait to see Karo’s next fight. WHen is th enext Dream event scheduled?

have fun in ufc no mans land for a while

by bearcox13 on Feb 10, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I go to pain management

and there’s no way a doctor would prescribe all three of those at once. So that means he was getting them on the side, or from multiple doctors. Furthermore, they only stay in your system for approximately 3 days, so he was taking them right up to fight time most likely. The fight to kick his possible opiod addiction will be far tougher than any MMA fight.

by Patrick79x on Feb 10, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have not even heard of

the last two & I thought I knew a lot about pain killers. He is in for a world of hurt if he is going to kick that stuff. I had a thymectomy four years ago and it was freaking hell trying to get off just regular hydrocodone. I feel for him in regard to getting off that stuff, but it was an extremely bad career decision.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oxycodone makes Hydrocodone look like candy

…and oxymorphone = oxycontin I believe, which is absolutely fucking terrible to get off of. Karo has a lot more important issues than fighting right now. I never liked him as a fighter, but I feel very bad for him in this situation. It’s his own fault, but I still feel for him.

by Patrick79x on Feb 10, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That is what I figured,

after what I experienced I do not even want to imagine how bad getting off this stuff would be.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My dad became addicted to Oxycotin after it was prescribed to him following a car accident. I don’t know all of the details, but I know that before he weened himself off of it, he was a total mess.

Sadly, and this isn’t directly related, he died about a year after he got clean.

"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard

by Brett Jones on Feb 10, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

sorry to hear about your dad

"the spirit of your average dumbass with more overblown rhetoric" OR "the self-appointed savior of MMA"

by Kid Nate on Feb 10, 2009 8:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He will be in my prayers then,

because if it is worse than that I do not even want to think about it.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 4:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I read that Oxymorphone is something like 8x more powerful than Morphine.

by Chris Nelson on Feb 10, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good lord, that makes me wonder

if Karo even knew there was a disclosure form to be filled out before his fight. Is there any question that Dana/UFC will be sending Karo a “sorry bro, but you are gone” letter very soon?

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not only is it more powerful,

but it gives you a killer buzz. I had the dr change me from Oxy’s to Morphine because I was waking up every morning and looking forward to my medicine, which is not good.

by Patrick79x on Feb 10, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing my doc

didn’t give me any Oxy.

I’m on celebrex as a pain killer for my knee. Morphine doesn’t really do that much, at least I felt very little effects.

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by achengy on Feb 10, 2009 5:39 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll bring this to the table, and take it for what it’s worth. It was rumored that Karo had a replacement in Rick Story leading up to the bout with Dong Hyun Kim, leading me to believe that he was likely injured once again. Karo probably was thinking the exact same thing as I was thinking at the time of the story… “Not again.. another damn injury”.

I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Karo likely had some pressure to fight on his shoulders. He had a tremendously long layoff, was suddenly gone from the title picture, or even the contention picture, had a lot of fans who wanted to see him fight, yet he can’t remain healthy.

Instead of doing the smart thing and backing out of the fight, he decided against be called a “pussy” by casual fans and whoever else could muster up the balls to insult him. He took a shitload of painkillers, went out and fought, and paid the consequences. Poor decision by Karo, and I wish he’d simply take the time to properly rehab, if that’s even possibly with the quadricep injury he has.

I’m not a Karo Parisyan fan, but I can’t help but wonder if this was exactly what went through his mind. He’d be off for so long, so far out of the spotlight, and he made the wrong decision.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 3:45 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Of course... if...

If this is an addiction, this is terrible news to hear having another MMA fighter addicted to painkillers. Best of luck snapping the addiction, Karo.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that,

but fighting to appease us fans is even more crazy to me. This should be about him & what he wants to do. If he is unable to come out & fight injured without taking “shitloads of painkillers” then he should not come out or maybe train properly before the fight in hopes these injuries would not reoccur.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My sentiments exactly. Regardless of whatever pressure he felt, it was a bad decision.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Right.

We hear too many stories of other fighters coming out & fighting with bad injuries that do not fail drug tests for me to give him credit for doing it on painkillers.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, he’s probably addicted to painkillers stemming from that quadricep injury. That couldn’t be easy to deal with, it’s a damn shame.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure his addiction stemmed from that injury,

but he knows he would be tested for all of those when he fought. His recent late fight pullouts kind of seem like they could be related to knowing he would fail a drug test & maybe he felt like he had to risk it this time, I guess?

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It’s either that or his quadricep is a career-ending injury, yet he’s trying to continue to fight and it’s painful. Who knows…. I’ve heard it all in the last hour.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That stuff will help if you got a bad case of the nerves. But that is not a good sign at all for Karo. How do you do that knowing that they drug test you?

by pwdminotauro on Feb 10, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Exactly!

These guys know every single drug/substance they will be tested for months in advance. To do it knowingly is just career suicide or pure greed.

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wow. What a shame.

Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ. -- TangleBones

by jemaleddin on Feb 10, 2009 3:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Groan
For longtime fans of Parisyan, his trajectory has been a very bitter pill to swallow.

I hear Oxy tastes the same …

"It's like a flying knuckle sandwich." --Rogan
"And many men have eaten it." -- Goldy

by thetakeover on Feb 10, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Interesting bit from MMAWeekly.com:

When contacted by MMAWeekly.com about the positive test result, a surprised Parisyan said that he revealed all medications that he has been taking on his pre-fight medical paperwork prior to UFC 94 as required. He believed that he had followed proper procedure and was not in violation of any rules.

A bit of miscommunication between Karo and the commission.

"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito on Belfort at Affliction:DOR

by Rundownloser on Feb 10, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For some reason...

Honestly, did he write on there… Hydrocodone, Oxymorphone, and Hydromorphone? Doubtful, because the commission would have said “Hell no, you’re not fighting”

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe he just wrote-

“come on bro, i’m takin all kinds of shit & do not even know the names bro!”

by dnevil001 on Feb 10, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

“Oxy… something, Bro… Manny, come write this shit down, I don’t write good, Bro.”
Manny writes… “Flintstone Vitamins”
“Thanks, Bro”

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oops.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Feb 10, 2009 4:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He needs Suboxone!!!

That shit saved my life. It was the only way i could get off the Oxy. Then the Subs were easy to get off of.

by J_Maddux on Feb 10, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Were you able to find a Suboxone dr that accepted insurance?

by Patrick79x on Feb 10, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Greg Jackson fighters are cheaters!

Just kidding, I’m surprised no one said that hehe.

Anyway, it’s a big shame for Karo, I hope the fight becomes NC’d. Whatever excuses he may of had, he should’ve just sat it out instead of getting in trouble with a drug test.

Being labeled a cheater is worse then being labeled as unreliable. He definitely needs to get his stuff together though. Definitely not past his problems yet.

AWmusic - mp3 blog on independent music..

by achengy on Feb 10, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Karo = House

:( he’s becoming like the Dr. House of MMA, except no doctorate of medicine from JHU or crazy diagnoses.

i really hope he’s not addicted to the narcs, but it does seem that way. why didn’t he just take his ativan for his nerves?! or have a shrink prescribe another anxiety med that does induce as much drowsiness.

and in rare cases doctors will prescribe more than one narc with slightly different origins because they effect the body slightly different on how much damage it will do to other organs (i.e. some cause more kidney damage and others are rougher on the liver). this way the patient can take them alternating and do less damage to one organ system but still have the analgesia.

by snet tim on Feb 10, 2009 5:05 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Thank God!

Now we won’t have to watch another one of his boring fights for another year. Hopefully he will fight in Japan and be banned indefinitely so we don’t have to see him in the UFC again… Bro.

by Bruiser on Feb 10, 2009 5:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

For longtime fans of Parisyan, his trajectory has been a very bitter pill to swallow. His quadricep injury prior to his title shot with Hughes was forgivable, but Parisyan has never seemed to rebound from the setback. By both design and accident, Parisyan is continually taking actions that jeopardize his career. What happens next is up to the UFC, the NSAC and Parisyan himself. I certainly hope he is able to get the help is so desperately needs.

Speaking as a longtime Karo fan what in the hell are you talking about?. Karo is 9-3 in the UFC he has lost to GSP (WW champ), Alves (#1 contender), Diego (disputed decision). He has beaten the likes of Serra (former WW champ) Lyttle, Burkman, Fickett, Chonnan and Kim while putting on some great fights and showcasing judo to the masses.

In the past year he’s gone through hell and managed to survive panic attacks and freak injuries to step in the cage and beat a guy who was highly hyped after losing the first round. Karo also revealed that he mentioned these drugs to the NSAC and is innocent until proven other wise, i’m very curious to see how Kizer and company deal with this. I’ve called into question what exactly the NSAC is doing and this will be a big test to see if they are as full of crap as their counterparts in the CSAC or not.

by Raker on Feb 10, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Bullshit...

I’m sorry, but how does the commission allow a guy to be on 3 different pain killers, even if he wrote them down… Doesn’t that red flag instantly?

You can’t just allow some guy to fight on oxymorphone, hydromorphone, and hydrocodone in his system. This just seems ridiculous.

HEY, I wrote it down, so I can fight. What’s the stipulation on that?

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

They said he didn’t tell them before the fight

by Phildo on Feb 10, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hence...

We have contradicting stories, that’s the issue.

Editor-in-chief of MMA-Analyst.com

by Leland Roling on Feb 10, 2009 9:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think a positive test

says guilty. It’s a bit of evidence that you kind of have to disprove.

A guy taking all 3 of those drugs at one time should not be fighting.

Maybe his problems then what we thought. He definitely felt pressured to fight from the community calling into question is mental and physical state.

Regardless of all the criticisms, it’s evident that Parisyan has problems that suggest that he shouldn’t be stepping in the cage until they are all figured out.

AWmusic - mp3 blog on independent music..

by achengy on Feb 10, 2009 6:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I had a bad back and was driving across the country once. I took some painkillers before taking a nap on the side of the road thinking that I’d sleep off the drowsiness and sleep better than crappy car naps. When I woke up I felt awesome but my driving was really bad. I got off the stuff as soon as possible.

by Dooda on Feb 10, 2009 7:18 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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