Snapshot of the Day: Kimbo Slice vs. Houston Alexander
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that slam made it almost worth watching that travesty… almost
by dbcb on Dec 6, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
HaHa!
Jesus, look how far Kimbo winds up on his ground and pound.
Pretty much sums up the whole TUF season…and probably means you will never see a HW edition EVAH again.
Kimbo looked awesome, Houston looked
like shit, they met in the middle and gassed the hell out, and perfectly summed up this crap season of TUF.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 6, 2009 12:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Kimbo looked awesome?
When?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
lol
When he toss the littler guy with no takedown defense to the ground, and had no idea what to do once he got there?
Yeah, I guess that’s awesome if we compare it to umm… Houstons ground game?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
If you compare it to his previous self
Which is the whole point. He got better.
Not a big deal but it’s pretty cool to watch. Quit raining on everyone’s parade.
The whole point was:
“Kimbo looked awesome”.
Don’t change his point.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
To Houston
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
that slam looked awsome. end of story. Why dont you come off your computer chair and enter the ufc and perform a slam like that on Houston Alxander. Stop hating for the sake of hating.
Oh great
the “don’t point out the obvious unless you get in the cage” defense, combined with the “hater!” argument.
Tell the UFC to sign me for Kimbos money and I will.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Spacesoap gets me. K-Bo looked awesome COMPARED TO BEFORE.
Good job kimbo. Gets the gold star for most improved.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 6, 2009 2:50 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
For Kimbo fans, this fight showed that Kimbo is actually improving or at least trying to improve. While some may disagree with the decision, espeically the 30-27, I do feel that his win was something that Kimbo actually deserved and actually worked for. This is much better for Kimbo than my original prediction where I felt he was just going to get blitzed by Houston.
Absolutely...
mythbuster likes to rain on the Kimbo Parade here but I think even HE sees that Kimbo has shown SOME improvement in his ground game that we didn’t expect. Heck, considering the fact that he had zero ground game during TUF shows that he’s still dead serious and at least TRYING to improve.
Houston, on the other hand, fought like he was facing Silva or Lesnar : Scared.
Agreed.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Dec 6, 2009 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, his awesome new ground game is gonna disappear as soon as he fights someone he can’t ragdoll around.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He wasn’t supposed to be able to “ragdoll” Alexander around. In fact, most pundits picked Houston to run right through Kimbo, and felt Alexander’s ground game was better. In the end they were wrong. Kimbo has a lot of haters, but lets give the guy his credit. He’s improved since his last bout and will hopefully get better. I’m pulling for the guy and let’s face it, he brings viewers to the sport and puts asses in the seats. Not all that bad. He’s got a decent personality, and is much more humble than I would have expected. I’ll continue to pull for him.
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 6, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol
In fact, most pundits picked Houston to run right through Kimbo
Agreed. Me too. We expected Alexander to K Kimbo TFO.
and felt Alexander’s ground game was better
lolwut? Who said that Alexander had a ground game?? It’s been known for a long time that he has zero ground game. And Kimbo proved that the bigger guy with no ground game can ragdoll the smaller guy with no ground game. yay?
Kimbo has a lot of haters, but lets give the guy his credit.
Here’s the credit I give the guy ( and I used to root for him, btw):
He lost his first fight on TUF, easily.
He turned down a second fight.
He got a nice contract despite sucking.
They gave him a hand-picked, tailor made opponent in Houston Alexander.
Theres his credit.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Actually, quite a few people
made the assertion that Houston had a ground game and kicks that would make the difference. Neither fighter is very good at the level of UFC competition, but it was nice to see improvement by Kimbo.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
So far
Only two people have ever claimed that Houston has a ground game. You and duck.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Is it his fault that he got the contract? Alexander was a name opponent, again not his fault. Sure he lost his first fight easily, agreed, but did he show improvement? The guy started in this game late..really late, but you can’t knock him for wanting and trying to improve. If he collected a paycheck and fell off without any desire to get better I’d be all over him but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
Will he ever be anything special…I really doubt it but he’ll be an entertaining guy to watch.
by SmittytheCutman on Dec 6, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I know
Nothing is Kimbos fault.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Question for you
What’s with the attitude, man?
Are you upset with the fact that Houston lost?
Or are you just upset that Kimbo won?
Or maybe you’re just upset that Dana White hasn’t been castrated so he can’t reproduce? ;)
I outlined it in another thread somewhere, but its like this:
Kimbo (who I used to root for):
- Went on TUF: My hats off, much respect.
- Showed ZERO improvement since his EliteXC days: Eyerolly “here we go again”
- He lost on his first fight: Was to Nelson, so not that big a surprise.
- Every week – Will Kimbo be back??: Annoying as shit, and respect lost because he would celebrate anytime he thought someone elses dream was over, because he just wanted to ‘get in there and bang, man’.
- When given the opportunity, Kimbo pusses out: Much respect lost.
- He gets a nice contract despite sucking and pussing out of a fight on TUF: more eyerolling.
- He looks the same against Alexander: No ground game (except tossing a small guy around), can’t finish, has no gas tank.
- His fight with Alexander was a match making joke to begin with.
And I’m supposed to be impressed? I know the current talking point is that MMA is now an entertainment business rather than a fight business, but I prefer to see the best fighters fight – and Kimbo is far, far, far from the best fighter. I think most people know he got his contract because he’s a name, and not because he earned it. He’s all talk.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
okay, so it's because you don't like kimbo..
thanks for clearing it up.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yes, Anton. Very clever of you.
You managed to figure out that the reason I don’t like Kimbo is because I don’t like Kimbo.
I’ll never try to fool you again…
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
thanks for making the time to reply. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 12:45 AM EST up reply actions
Anytime.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Oh I forgot one
They had to make it at a catch weight to make sure Kimbo didn’t have to face a legit heavyweight, and to make sure he didn’t have to cut and fail to make weight.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
This is the whole point right here.
He did look good in the second round but he’s going to get WRECKED by any heavyweight out there. Good for him, he got a win that I didn’t think he’d get, and he looked pretty good in the second round. Now get ready for a three fight losing streak against the heavies.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Unfortunately, I see that happening, too. Unless Kimbo continues to improve day-in and day-out to AT LEAST develop way better Take-Down Defense, his chances of success aren’t looking too good long-term here.
But you know something? Kimbo is the epitome of what an “Underdog” truly is. No one is giving him a shot in hell of winning any fights in the future but I would probably find myself rooting for him regardless of his slim chances. Call it the “Rocky Effect”, I guess….
hahahaha
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
That 2nd round was fantastic.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
What makes it worse is that snapshot was a result of only 1.5 rounds of fighting. The rest of the time was spent doing a circle dance around the ring. Even Machida is shaking his head right now.
For the life of me...
I couldn’t figure out why they were tired. No one did ANYTHING in that first round. Walking around the ring gassed them? Forget a 10-10 round, I wanted a 0-0 round.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
Could it be that...
They were running on fumes since the 2nd round ended? I think that’s what happened in the 3rd.
The official gassing gif.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Dec 6, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
hahah
Didn’t noticie that, he does a facepalm!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He actually does
That’s awesome.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
Where is the facepalm?
All I see is him put his fingers on the bridge of his nose for a second(most likely to wipe the sweat from it)…
There is no facepalm. If he actually did one…..well, let’s just say that Dana White would not be thrilled with it.
United against their common enemy.
10/24
by spectaa on Dec 6, 2009 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They only need one or two people to come out of it. Schaub has a future, Roy of course. Mitrione maybe if he decides to wants to fight.
And I wonder whhatever happened to Demico? Demarco? Whatever his name was.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Dem Tiddies?
They lost to Rashad’s buttplug.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Demico Rogers
He was the one many thought showed the most in his loss to Schaub, and he seems to have been Stalined out of the show. Just curious what happened to him.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Unlike Mitrione, Jones, et al., I suspect that Demico has a great deal of potential that could be tapped into more effectively outside the UFC. I really hope we see him again eventually.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
He must have done something though
he had a good showing, and then he got BURIED. didn’t hear from him again, no spot in the finale, nothing
Well, I don’t think anybody else from that show is much of a prospect (aside from Schaub, who was a finalist). The others are just gonna be fodder for the Todd Duffee’s, Struve’s, etc. of the world, while Demico actually looked like he has something there. I’m hoping they released him so that he can pursue that in the regional circuit so his potential isn’t squandered. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were wishful thinking, but I don’t know what that other reason could be off the top of my head.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Same
He was the one I was hoping they would bring back instead of Kimbo, if they needed one. Strange that he fell off the radar.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
LOve the SnapShot
I was laughing when they both were bending over, exhausted.
At the age of 35 and 36, both fighters have a long way to go.
“Who would have thought that Houston Alexander would be boring”
- Joe Rogan
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I was laughing a lot through this fight. I can’t remember a fight being so oddly bad yet so amusing. Definitely put a smile on my face, mostly for all the wrong reasons.
I love me some Sexyama!
KIMBO UIS TEH BEST EvUH!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
You were laughing...
While the fans in the crowd were chanting Kimbo! Kimbo! Kimbo!
They weren’t laughing….They were cheering.
I don't know why some people still think Kimbo's performance was bad..
Did you guys have high expectations? Did you expect a large gas tank? Did you expect that he knows how to deal with leg kicks? Did you expect him to be very technical on the ground? Did you expect him to KO alexander easily?
If you answer yes to more than one question……..Seriously?
He performed way better than what I expected him to do so..
I never thought that he’d get past the first round with Houston, let alone dominate the second round like that..
One reason might be that most people thought he lost. I know I gave rounds 1 and 3 to Houston. Now throw in the fact that Houston was hand picked because he is such a good matchup for kimbo: fighter with no ground game who looks to stand and who will have a sizeable weight and reach disadvantage (this part I should have included in my prefight calculations more).
Now in Kimbo’s defence he’s the one that came to fight. He initiated most the action and really showed some impressive improvements : the suplexes, full mounts and arm control from the top where big surprises.
But still, he easily could have lost and against a perfect opponent in HA. It’s hard to get too excited.
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 3:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was awful but landing 6 strikes to your opponents 1 is still 6:1.
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You really think that’s clever, don’t you? Despite it being completely outside of reality and showing that you have no idea what you’re talking about. But I guess, like you’re ridiculous “Fedro” nonsense, you’ll keep repeating it until you realize how silly it is.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
BJ Penn Joker approves

"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Yay!
I feel at home again. iiowyn is calling me a troll. Life is good.
Tho I’m a little sad you didn’t say “flagged” :(
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I would actually say that round 1 was a draw.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 6, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I'd ask how, but I'm guessing because you're a Kimbo fan.
Houston landed shots. Kimbo didn’t. Simple.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
“Deserve’s got nothing to do with it.” :D
One guy had a crappy round where he did very little and the other guy had a crappy round where he did absolutely nothing at all, obviously the round goes to the guy who actually did something. Lord knows that round was so bad they should of just stopped the fight and fired both of them on the spot but that doesn’t change the fact that Houston landed shots and Kimbo didn’t.
Nobody deserved to win that round
except Alexander.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Yeah, I scored Round 1 0-0
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
Yeah, it’s relative, but Kimbo looked really good compared to my expectations. Since I thought Houston would just destroy him within 5 minutes, I have to say I was pretty impressed. This just sounds ridiculous, but I was most impressed with his gas tank and with his patience. I thought the weight cut plus the knee would lead to Kimbo blowing wind and flinging haymakers within the first round.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Dec 6, 2009 4:50 AM EST up reply actions
Kimbo did good for a TUF contestant!
Considering he had about as much MMA experience as the majority of the guys that show up on TUF I thought he did a decent job. His ground work in the second round was a pleasant surprise. I’ve never been on the KIMBO SUCKS bandwagon because I’ve always believed that EliteXC saw him as a cash cow and used him as a main event fighter for his name and not his skill, so let’s not pretend he’s ever been anything but a work in progress in the MMA world and judge him accordingly.
The real story of the fight is how terrible Houston Alexander looked. I was expecting a full on kamikaze assault and instead he looked like he was impersonating Michael Bisping fighting Dan Henderson. That said, I thought he did enough to win rounds 1 and 3 as well – I was aghast at the 30-27 result from one judge. But I doubt we’ll hear another cry of poor judging for this fight. I think most of us would like to forget we even watched it.
I finish beers at 1:55.
I won't forget watching this fight...
‘cause I actually saw a GROUND GAME from Kimbo and that’s the biggest surprise of the whole fight.
And with the Chants chanting Kimbo’s name at times, it really made the fight a bit more interesting to watch, though I could do without Round 1’s shenanigans…
He did perform better than I expected, but I sort of expected nothing from him. The whole fight was just comical with the exception of the second round, which admittedly was quite awesome. I kept thinking, “Oh shit! A take down by Kimbo!” Then, “Oh shit! That’s an awesome slam!” Then finally, “RNC? Kimbo’s got some semblance of a ground game!” I guess I was more startled than anything in the second round. The third was just embarrassing for both fighters.
I love me some Sexyama!
There was a rear naked choke? I’ll have to watch it again. I recall Kimbo being behind Alexander and doing nothing. I don’t recall a RNC.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
There was an attempt at a rear naked choke but he was to far to the side to apply it properly. But he did attempt one and then gave it up and moved to full mount I believe.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
He attempted one
like my friends attempted sleeper holds on each other in 4th grade after seeing them in pro wrestling.
That “attempt” hardly counts as an RNC
Isn’t that what I just said? That he attempted one?
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
I’m saying that it was so piss poor and amateurish that it hardly even counts as an attempt. It’s almost like saying that grabbing someone’s wrist when they’re in your guard counts as a kimura attemps
Yeah, okay, Shaun.
We get it. An inexperienced former street fighter/bouncer-turned-MMA-Fighter who previously had zero ground game does a “piss poor” and “amateurish” attempt at a RNC. Gee…Why doesn’t he do it right the very first time he attempts it in his life, I wonder?
sigh….
You know he didn't just start, right?
Two years we been hearing about how he’s working on his ground game, and he still has none. I think the “new to MMA” well has run dry now.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
He's not inexperienced
Why doesn’t he do it right the very first time he attempts it in his life, I wonder?
Are you seriously implying that the guy has been training MMA for a few years now, and still has yet to learn the basic position for an RNC?
lol.
Kimbo takes his back, and does a decent job of flattening HA out a lil bit, and maintaining posture. He was going to go for a choke, but didn’t have the positioning, and moved back into mount…
He chose not to really attempt the choke, keep dominant position, and do something he was more comfortable with.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
I don’t know why some people still think Kimbo’s performance was bad..
Probably because it was.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
For someone that hates Kimbo so much, you sure are spending a lot of time talking about him. Is somebody being a grumpypants again?
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
Kimbo will never win
no matter what you all will hate on him. The blame last night is all houstons who was obviously afraid to engage. Kimbo showed improvement. The guy will not change over night but is slowly learning. And I certainly enjoy watching him fight. The odds of Kimbo winning were slim to nil but pulled it off in a dominate fashion.
by ElStIkO on Dec 6, 2009 8:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
The guy will not change overnightyears but is slowly learning.
Fixed it for ya.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
but he has....
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Actually, Kimbo will ALWAYS win...
Not his fights but most of the fans ’cause of his image/personality and fame. Despite how inexperienced he is, he gets fans to WATCH his fights.
The bottom line is…well…The Bottom Line which Kimbo helps with Dana’s company. Case in point, the TUF Heavyweights edition had to the be the worst TUF I’ve ever seen. And yet, ’cause of Kimbo, it was arguably the highest rated show in TUF history.
Good for Kimbo
All you haters are ridiculous. Go join Sherdog or Junkie… I see some comments that make me sick to my stomach there.
with the exception of houston's dancing
i was really impressed with kimbo last night. his suplex and throw were awesome, as was the single leg? that he had in the third round. noone should say HA won that fight, all he did was dance and leg kick. Kimbo looked moderately impressive and its just sad that hes so old and won’t have time to improve more. the second round should’ve been 10-8 and the first round could’ve been a draw but kimbo was more active and aggressive so one might be able to give him cage control. overall, for all those looking to see if kimbo had improved his ground game and all around skills, i’d say it was an overwhelming yes
the first round could’ve been a draw but kimbo was more active and aggressive so one might be able to give him cage control.
Getting hit in the legs, then standing there and not doing anything about it =/= “being more active and aggressive”
by JRN on Dec 6, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
It was his first UFC Fight, JRN!
Give me a break….
He’ll be much more improved when his next fight comes around. Will he win? I don’t like his chances, actually but you never know….
Are you really suggesting he be judged more leniently—by the actual ringside judges—because it’s his UFC debut? Because all I’m saying is that he didn’t do enough to win (or draw) round 1.
by JRN on Dec 7, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
This fight was bizarre.
Since when does Houston Alexander not throw punches violently. The entire fight was surreal. Something just didn’t seem right. I guess we will have to watch Kimbo Slice fight in the octagon again eventually. I trully thought Houston was going to destroy Kimbo and I am left here like a confused dog watching two people have sex.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Agreed
Maybe Houston was trying to fight a strategy that was horrible for him. He really should have stuck with what works. Distance + leg kicks is not Alexander.
That said, I still had it 29-28 for him. But he should have come out swinging. I bet he regrets not doing that.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
The one time I root for HA and this is what he does to me
All this fight proves is that he has zero ground game no matter who he’s fighting.
Also, what the hell were those kicks, love taps? He’s a supposed muay thai fighter, yet all he did was throw switch kicks with less power than a jab. Then, I think he threw TWO “power” kicks from his rear leg, and they threw him off balance both times. Is he injured? Did he forgot how to kick? What the hell???
Way too tentative. Tho even those pitter patter shots almost broke Kimbos leg in the third.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Those "pitter patter" shots...
..would break anyone’s leg in this blog. lol.
And the only time I saw him really damage Kimbo with the leg was when he nailed him HARD with the kick that knocked Kimbo down….and for some odd reason, did not jump on him….But then again, Houston does NOT have a Ground game, I guess…..geez.
Neither of them have a ground game
and I believe Kimbo admitted that the leg kicks hurt him even in the first, the accumulation of them.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
had he thrown it as hard as he did it on his last fight,
he would’ve won via leg kick TKO for sure… but alas, Houston decided to just run around and touch his knee a few times.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
And Kimbo decided to spin in circles and do nothing a few times.
Your point, again?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
my point was BNTHIS was wrong..
he was hurting Kimbo with those weak leg kicks.. and if he threw it harder he would’ve won..
was that so hard to understand?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 12:46 AM EST up reply actions
Bad day Anton?
Hair stylist on vacation?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Kimbo impressed me by actually showing improvement. And he can actually be called a fighter now instead of a freakshow taking on cans. But we should all temper are excitement and remember he was given Houston becauses it’s a very generous matchup for him:
Houston is much smaller so he can’t bully him around (and with Kimbo’s advantage. The reverse was true)
Houston has no ground game, so the fight was guaranteed to be decided standing where Kimbo is much more comfortable
Because it’s basically going to be a boxing match Kimbo enhours a significant reach advantage
Now if they next give him a wrestler or grappler we can see if he has a chance to really be a competitive fighter in the UFC. I’ll give him this he’s definitely working hard on it. My guess is they’ll want to captalize on him and give him a big name who’ll play to his strengths. Since Chuck is busy I guess Keith Jardine will probably get the call. He better starting working on checking the leg kicks.
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 1:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
And he can actually be called a fighter now instead of a freakshow taking on cans.
To be honest, if this same exact fight had been done in EliteXC (or even in Strikeforce), it would have been seen the same as the rest of Kimbos fights. A gimme, an easy win, a joke, and so on. That the UFC put it on seems to give it legitimacy in some peoples eyes, which is sad. This isn’t directed at you, but rather some of the bizarre comments I’ve seen about how awesoem kimbo looks, his improvements, etc.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Houston might not be that good, but he isn’t a can and this wasn’t a squash match like Kimbos previous opponents in Elite. Between Bo, Tank, and megapunk I believe the were a combined 1 and 18 over the previous 3 years. Houston was definitely a big step up towards legitimacy.
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 1:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think that people are way overestimating Houston Alexander is part of the problem here. He’s a fighter who hasn’t won a UFC fight in the last two years, heck this is the first time he has ever made it out of the first round in a UFC fight. Alexander was hand picked because they thought he would stand toe to toe with Kimbo and get his ass knocked out. Honestly was everyone’s opinion of Kimbo so low to start with that they think beating Houston Alexander was in any way impressive? Houston is a decent striker with no ground game at all and a bit of name recognition they have been milking since 2007 and Kimbo was much larger going into the fight, what surprised me is that Kimbo had so much trouble with him. I wasn’t impressed at all.
Srsly
That Kimbo couldn’t finish Houston is more testament to Kimbos lack of skill rather than Houstons amazing chin. The UFC marketing department earned their money on this fight.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
and you must be earning yours in this thread.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Jardine would murder Kimbo, he’s a top ten level fighter. Besides I doubt Kimbo is going to drop to light heavyweight (he was bitching about making the catchweight). Look for Kimbo to get Al-Turk or Hardonk or some new guy on that level (shame Justin McCully got cut). Look for Kimbo to headline a fight night to score ratings for Spiketv.
How many times have you seen Jardine shoot? He’s much better overall fighter than Kimbo but he’s a perfect matchup for him. As soon a they clinched Al-Turk would take him down and since he outwieghs him by 20 I don’t think he’d get back up. Jardine? He’s going to keep it standing were Kimbo has a shot. And if they do it at some catchweight again or heavyweight he’ll probably have 10 or 15lbs on him.
But it doesn’t have to Jardine because I just remembered there is a must fight for Kimbo. Re-sign Seth.
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 1:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I think you are way way overestimating Kimbo’s skill here, Jardine would eat him alive at any weight. Hell Kimbo’s only strong point is his striking and he’s not even that good at that. They would be better served putting Kimbo in there with one of the other guys from the TUF house than that. Heck Kimbo vs Mitrione or Kimbo vs McSweeney makes the same sense style wise but gives Kimbo a fight he could win.
Unless Kimbo bull-rushes Jardine like Silva, Wandy, & Houston, he’s getting leg-kicked until he can’t walk.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 6, 2009 7:24 PM EST up reply actions
If Houston Alexander could kick Kimbo’s bad leg out from under him just imagine what Jardine could do with good leg kicks. That’s not even dealing with all the other things that Keith Jardine does well, he’s a top ten fighter. I imagine that even if Kimbo did bull-rush him like those other guys did he’d still have a hard time getting Jardine, he’s not the caliber of striker any of those guys are.
Jardine’s actually #12 according to BE consensus (the only ranking that matters here) so he’s not in the top 10.
I just figured it out!!!!
Houston Alexander showed excellent octagon control throughout that first round!! He totally dictated the pace of the fight and where the fight took place.
"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"
Funny how people are saying this was a set up for kimbo to win,
When virtually everyone (including me), predicted that Houston would murder Kimbo in the first round.
Everyone thought that Houston was a really bad matchup for kimbo as he was a better striker and looked to have better wrestling. Just because kimbo proved us wrong, (or Houston did, depending on how you look at things), does t mean this was a set up that was a guaranteed win won Kimbo..
And no, not the same as elitexc matchmaking.. The betting odds would even show you that. Kimbo was a huge underdog here, while he was a big favorite against the “cans” elitexc fed to him..
Kinda like when everyone was predicting a first round submission for Jones,
but as soon as he got knocked out, everyone saw that predictable end coming days ago.
Dude,What are you talking about?
Everyone predicted Bones would own him standing. And that’s exactly what happened. He was about to finish Hamill, but he threw those illegal blows and got DQ’d.
Bookies and experts, even if they technically wrong cause of the DQ, were spot on…
Anyway, all those things you said isn’t related to the point I was making about kimbo.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wrong Jones, Anton.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Oh yeah. My bad.. Sorry.
Still not related to my point though. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions
I just thought it was funny how everyone thought it was a lock, and then acted like they knew all long when Marcus went down. One guy even said something like “Does anyone really think Mitrione can win?” and recieved a few snarky comments.
Check my record. I voted for mitrione in that poll. Heavy hands and football experience to neutralize marcus’ shot.
I DID see that coming.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
i picked Jones, but bet on Mitrione at +600 cause i wanted a jackpot win at a parlay..
too bad my “sure bets” in the parlay, Houston and Bones, lost..
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
Oh it definitely was booked as a fight that Kimbo could win though. Houston Alexander was handpicked for this fight for a reason. It was specifically set up to play towards Kimbo’s strengths and away from his weaknesses(which considering how few strengths and how many weaknesses he has is quite a big deal) and so Kimbo could have a winnable fight. Hell they set him up with a guy that has only one win in the last two years (and that was outside of the UFC) and hasn’t even made it out of the first round in the UFC yet(this was only Alexander’s second fight ever that lasted longer than one round). Regardless of who anyone picked to win it can’t be overlooked that Houston Alexander was handpicked to be Kimbo’s first UFC fight for a reason, they expected a quick brutal KO and knew that there was a fair chance Kimbo would deliver it.
Yes it was hand picked to make it competitive, not a "set up for kimbo to win"
Coming in, Houston is at the same level of kimbo, even higher since he has quality wins and more experience. This wasn’t set up for an easy victory ala-elitexc as Some people here are suggesting..
How is this bad matchmaking that was a set up for a kimbo victory, if everyone thought Kimbo was the one about to get massacred?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions
No ground game? Check.
Smaller opponent? Check.
Losing streak? Check. Three of last four fights.
Been KOed? In two of last three losses.
Yes sir, we found Kimbos opponent.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
No doubt that's why they picked him.
But… It wasn’t a set up for him to win either.. He was just matched up against a guy he MAY have a chance with.. There are much much more mismatches happening in the UFC, let alone compare it to elite.. That is faaaar from shady matchmaking, I don’t even get why people are bitching.
Houston, coming in, wasn’t a great fighter, but he was on a higher level than kimbo. That’s how people at kimbo’s level should be brought up anyway. Except for prospects like Thiago, most are matched up against people close to his level.. This isn’t like a Tank Abbot who was brought in to be murdered.
PS
Had Houston committed more on his kicks, I think he wouldve won.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Oh it wasn’t them tossing Kimbo a can by any means but lets not act like it was any kind of real test either, it was booked specifically to get a huge knock out of one of the guys (and in that respect it failed horribly). They handpicked a guy that played to Kimbo’s strengths and had the same weaknesses and who hadn’t picked up a win in the UFC since 2007 not to mention was smaller than Kimbo to boot. It was booked specifically to be very winnable for Kimbo instead of testing his growth as a all around MMA fighter. It’s not EliteXC booking but it was booked that way for a reason.
Right
but that’s how it works. You don’t toss guys to the lions; you feed them opponents that make competitive matches, and then if they prove themselves, you move on to see how they fare against other styles.
They normally give fighters test for them to prove themselves with, I can’t see where Kimbo fighting Houston Alexander proved much of anything about Kimbo.
I think the logic was something like, they knew he’d get destroyed by a ground fighter, but they wanted to know where his striking was at. So, like any good experiment, they eliminated all other variables. Houston has zero ground game (guy looks like a turtle when you flip him over) and his striking is right around the middle of the division.
I don’t think Joe Silva expected what happened last night though.
Oh undoubtedly no one expected what we got and I agree that Houston was chosen for his zero ground game but the idea that Houston Alexander was going to somehow maul Kimbo just seems far fetched to me. Heck when I saw the booking I figured that Zuffa did it for Kimbo’s sake to make him look good, I didn’t give Alexander much of a chance (and not because I thought Kimbo was any good).
I'm gonna have to watch the third round again
I didn’t see much striking from Kimbo tho.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
lol
I didn’t say he didn’t strike at all, just that I didn’t see much of it. Seemed like same thing as before.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
The point is
nobody was saying that at this time yesterday. The concensus in this community was more or less that Kimbo was being sacrificed to get Houston back on track
I wasn’t around for the last couple of days but I really do find that utterly ridiculous. Why would the UFC care about Houston Alexander’s career? He hasn’t won a UFC fight in over two years and there is just so long you can milk that one Keith Jardine win before it gets rather pathetic. That’s not to mention that Kimbo Slice is worth thousands of times more to the company than Houston Alexander is in terms of drawing power.
I worded that badly
Most people here thought that, despite whatever reason they matched them, Houston was going to run in and KO Kimbo in a fight reminiscent of his fight with Jardine and Kimbo’s fight with Petruzelli.
That is what I am getting at, I just don’t get why people thought that. While no Josh Thompson or Bo Cantrell, Houston Alexander just isn’t very good. Was everyone just that down on Kimbo that they didn’t even think he could be a crappy light heavyweight or did they think that Houston Alexander actually was a decent fighter?
Josh Thompson is actually a pretty good fighter..
good enough to get a strikeforce belt.. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 7, 2009 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
I’m still not sure why anyone would of thought Kimbo was going to get massacred in this one at the worst it was pretty even. I mean seriously did people think Kimbo Slice was so sucky that he didn’t have a chance against freaking light heavyweight Houston Alexander? Heck it was set up with both guys having a punchers chance of catching the other guy and not much else, it most definitely wasn’t set up to be a massacre.
Yes everyone thought LHW Houston woul. Beat up kimbo.
Kimbo lost to a worse LHW in Seth, and he has less technical strikes and looked to have weaker punches than Houston.
He has a “punchers chance” but that didn’t factor against Thompson’s glassjaw when he hit it cleanly several times. They have the same strength’s but Houston seemed to be better at them and he’s proven to really have mad power, than kimbo’s power which people were calling a myth. Hence, almost everyone picked Houston to win it by 1st round ko.
You really had the fight as an even matchup coming in? I’d like to hear why.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
On a onelegged jab from a LHW seth that is.
Was it ridiculous to think that he wouldn’t be able to take Houston’s punch?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
Well if you apply MMA math to the situation then you would come up with Kimbo Slice beat Houston Alexander who beat Keith Jardine who beat Chuck Liddell but should we now be thinking that Kimbo is better than Jardine or Liddell? Should we assume that means that Seth Petruzelli should be fighting Keith Jardine now? Maybe we should judge that it took Kimbo Slice 14 minutes and 52 seconds longer than it took James Irvin to beat Alexander?
I guess what gets me is that anyone was thinking that Houston Alexander was any good at all. We all know what Kimbo is but were people really that out of the loop as to what Houston Alexander is? Sure he’s no James Thompson but it’s not like he’s much more than that.
It's not MMA math
it’s looking back over a fighters record to see where their strengths and weaknesses lie. We saw Kimbo go down from what looked to be a fairly weak punch, so it’s not illogical to think that he can’t take a shot very well. It’s the same thing we did with Marcus Jones, we saw that in the past he has trouble taking hard shots, we saw that Mitrione can deliver hard shots, and therefore most of us were not surprised when Mitrione KOed Marcus; the system works.
So based on seeing Kimbo go down from a weak shot from another LHW, we thought there was a fairly good chance that Houston, who we’ve seen has formidable power in a cross, could put Kimbo to sleep. It’s not a completely irrational stance to have.
Also, Jardine/Petruzelli might not be a bad fight.
by Shaun32887 on Dec 6, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Um except for the fact that people really seemed surprised that Mitrione won.
If you were really looking at things in that manner then you would of noticed that Houston Alexander is almost all weaknesses, heck his only real strength is that he hits hard. He’s a 37 year old fighter who’s entire career is based on catching Keith Jardine in a fight Keith didn’t take seriously enough. He’s not really what anyone would call a tough opponent.
If you were basing your judgment of Kimbo’s chances in this fight on the fact that Seth Petruzelli caught him with a shot last year in a screwed up fight that shouldn’t of even happened to start with then yea I am going to question that rationality(oh and 11 of Seth’s 12 wins were by knock out, perhaps he packs a bit of a punch too). Could Houston knock Kimbo out? Yes but it’s not like Kimbo couldn’t drop Houston Alexander too. I’m just not sure why anyone would think Houston was going to be too much for Kimbo to handle.
Um except for the fact that people really seemed surprised that Mitrione won.
:) That was mostly an emotional response to liking Jones so much and hating Matt. As soon as he got KOed, the board lit up with comments of “Well who didn’t see that coming?”
As far as everything else, we’re just running in circles. The ONE thing that Houston is good at is the last thing that beat Kimbo in a professional fight, that alone should make him worthwhile.
The last thing that beat Kimbo in a professional fight was being crucified by the Burger King.
Are we honestly still basing everything off that one Petruzelli fight from a year ago? Having KO power works on guys with good and bad chins but if you don’t have the rest of the striking package to go with it then you are just swinging, which is pretty much all either guy has ever shown. Why would that make one crappy striker with no ground game better than another striker with no ground game?
TUF in-house fights don't count on their professional record
so I excluded it.
and again, you’ have your opinion, I’ve very happy for you that you called the result of this fight, lets just leave it at that.
Honestly
That still holds true. if Houston had swung, he could very well have KOed Kimbo. He went in with a (questionable) strategy. Some thing he still won, but I believe he could have gotten the KO if he wasn’t so afraid from the start
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Houston's best two strategies were:
1) Blitz Kimbo like he did against Sakara & Jardine to try for an early KO.
2) Methodically chop down Kimbo’s legs with kicks.
Apparently he went with 3) Run around a lot. Who would’ve thought that wouldn’t have worked?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 6, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Some thing (sic) he still won
People who think Houston won:
1) mythbuster
2) Houston’s mom
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
OH!
And you can add Brent Brookhouse to that list of people who thought Houston won. So go ahead and get on his ass now.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/12/5/1187162/the-ultimate-fighter-10-finale#
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Not to take anything away from Kimbo because this was a really good win and big step-up for him. That said by the end of the first round it was obvious why Houston was picked: Houston can only fight standing and he’s much smaller with no reach. And Kimbo can throw a jab, meaning Houston can’t even really close the gap to unload on him. Shit, as soon as I saw them circling I knew Houston was in trouble with his little t-rex arms and Kimbo looking like a giant next to him. Since Houston easily made weight I’m guessing he was no more than 210 at fight. Kimbo might have been 20 lbs heavier than him.
Here how I imagined this fight was booked:
“-We need someone to face Kimbo, Someone who’s going to be legit but also someone he’s got a chance to beat.
-How about Houston Alexander. He’s really a one dimensional fighter who can only fight standing.
-Yeah, but he can punch. He he’d knock Kimbo out too quick.
-I don’t think so. I’ve seen Kimbo working out and he’s got a pretty good jab for the Octagon. With Houston’s little arms Kimbo going to be able to control him with the jab and if he tries clinching he’s going to get bullied. I think it’s a pretty good matchup for him.
OK. We’ve got a fight for him”
by John Nash on Dec 6, 2009 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

































