Badr Hari vs. Alistair Overeem
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Badr Hari got big quick!
It must be something in the water in Holland.
was thinking the same thing.
thanks for the clips. completely forgot this was happening. both those fights were wild. did overeem do anything but throw haymakers and shove hari to the ground?
He landed one or two significant shots, but Hari really overwhelmed him. Overeem really tore it up in his first fight though.
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by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 5, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
When the champ is 290lbs
Who can blame them..?
Badr Hari is a better kick boxer then Fedor….
by JoLy on Dec 5, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Reem is just too slow now
He might not be gassing like before, but Fedor would run circles around him. Allistair looks like he’ll be pushing 265lb by the time he returns to SF.
You’re aware that’s his second fight of the night? Check out how slow he was against Teixera. Fedor would be obliterated on the feet against Overeem.
That 1'st fight
literally didn’t last more than a minute. I understand that there is a warm up process, and everything, but his speed shouldn’t have been at least drastically reduced
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 5, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think he had an adrenaline dump in the first fight and wasn’t prepared properly to go 3 fights. His cardio is still not very good in my opinion.
IMO
the 3 rounds he went with Bonjasky and Aerts were telling, he was able to go strong the whole fight both times. I think that especially for someone whose muscles require such a huge amount of oxygen, his cardio is quite good.
Whether or not he will be able to go 3-5 5 minute rounds with grappling and extensive clinch work incorporated has yet to be seen, but at the very least he’s looked pretty fit. Against Hari, it was just a matter of being completely outclassed. Hari was much faster, much more accurate, and controlled the action of the fight completely.
But it just goes to show that Overeem is truly an animal, I mean this is a guy who can beat all but the very top of the heap K-1 fighters (IE Bonjasky, Hari, probably wouldn’t beat Schilt). Fedor is definitely faster, but Alistair is so powerful that it might not even matter.
(Nerd Alert) He kind of reminds me of Trunks in DBZ when he beefs up, sacrificing speed for power.
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 5, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta disagree. Overeem wasn’t fast. He grabbed the dude, held him and threw a couple spinach-powered knees up the pipe. That is strength and power, not quickness.
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I guess I am unfamiliar with the rules of K-1 but was that not an early stoppage? Overeem seemed to be fine after the ref stepped in. I know he was getting schooled but he didnt look out of it at that point at all.
Yup, you don’t know the rules. In normal K-1 fights after 3 downs in one round the fight is stopped. In the GP fights the fight is stopped after 2 downs in one round.
In the semi finals
it is 2 knockdowns and in the quarter finals it is 3 (this applies in the final round)
by Infinite_Jest on Dec 5, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
DFW fan, I take it?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 5, 2009 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
I have no doubt that Fedor hits harder than Hari and certainly is faster than Overeem. Even if this fight ends up in Japan this does not bode well for Reem.
Edor doesn’t hit harder than Hari, but I like some of your drawings. Nice Lynch references.
by dancingChicken on Dec 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Actually there’s one. You get both guys in the same room. You tell Reem to wind up and punch you as hard as you can. Then you look at Fedor and tell him to punch you similar to Reem, as hard as he can. Then when you’re finished puking blood out of your nipples, decide who hit harder. It’s not scientific, but if a guy did that and told me that Reem hits harder than Fedor, I’d believe him.
Actually
I doubt that Fedor hits harder than Badr, I mean Fedor does hit hard but Hari just has thunder in his hands. He regularly knocks guys cold with the 10 oz. kickboxing gloves on, imagine what he would do with 5 oz. gloves.
But you are right, Fedor is definitely faster than Overeem
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by ElliotMatheny on Dec 5, 2009 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
I can't be sure...
I’ve only just seen this Fedor dude on the tube a couple of weeks ago beating up Mr T.
Fedor Popinsky looks like my trashman, and I don’t think he’s ever taken on much larger opponents before. It’s not like he’s known for his devastating striking power, or all around ground skills. I’m pretty sure he can’t take much abuse and has horrible taste in sweaters. I heard he quit once in a fight because someone scratched him. Oddly though I think this Alistarred dude might be retaining some water…whatever that means.
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by Koob on Dec 5, 2009 1:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Overeem didn't look sharp at all....
Could he be crashing from all the “blow up” medicine?. Could be. If he fights Fedor(which he likely will now), he will do no better than Rogers did.
Hari does look bigger and sturdier as well. I could not find any weigh in info. Does anybody know what Overeem and Hari weighed?
Overeem just looked bad. Did he think this was MMA and not K-1 because he was doing takedowns and forcing clinches a lot, but didn’t throw too many strikes.
Not Bob Sapp-bad, but,
Overeem should try to get away with everything he can in the ring. It might make a lot of people hate him but hell— a lot of people do anyways since he fought Saint Mirko.
Did you guys watch his earlier fight even? I'm guessing that you didn't..
There’s no shame in losing to Badr you know..
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 5, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
While I enjoyed watching the GP, I wasn’t as impressed as you guys. There was a ton of Drama and Big Storylines involved, but many of the fights themselves I found quick & underwhelming. If I didn’t know the importance of the fights, I doubt I would have enjoyed it as much. That said, my favorite fight was Bojanski/Zimmerman. Awesome back-and-forth battle.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 5, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions
I think this discussion got started on the wrong foot because people think that was Overeem’s first fight of the night. Everyone should watch this before they try to break down Overeem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onG-SE2SC1o
Wow K1 is so different compared to MMA. You cant even draw any conclusions on how these fights would affect outcomes of future MMA bouts
Wait, what?
How is it different? This totally tells us how Overeem vs. Fedor will go. It’s the exact same thing, other than not defending takedowns, only throwing one strike per clinch, a different fighting environment, no breaks from knockdowns, two extra minutes in each round…
by pdl on Dec 5, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Um, off topic but I need confirmation
Is anyone on DirecTV in the northeast and trying to watch the SEC Championship? My signal is dead…. It can’t be the snow, falling ever so gently
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Ive never really watched K-1 before but i watched the entire tournament this morning and i enjoyed it quite a bit. I think i might start actually following it. Anyone want to point me towards some good K-1 fights to watch?
Wanna watch some highlight ko’s watch any fight with Melvin manhoef or masato
by kanodogg on Dec 5, 2009 8:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Good K-1 to Watch
Glad you liked it – it was indeed an awesome show!
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by Fraser Coffeen on Dec 6, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
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