TUF 10 Preview: Roy Nelson, Brendan Schaub Meet to Crown Season Champion
The Ultimate Fighter Season 10 will finally come to a close on Saturday night as Greg Jackson-trained Brendan Schaub (4-0) will take on former IFL heavyweight champion Roy Nelson (13-4) in the final bout to determine which fighter will win a six-figure contract with the UFC. Schaub was one of the more exciting heavyweights in the house as he defeated Demico Rogers via a first round anaconda choke, Jon Madsen via knockout in the second round, and Marcus Jones in the semifinals via a knockout to move on to the final. Nelson labeled himself as the smarter fighter as he avoided a lot of damage by moving to the ground and using the crucifix to his advantage. He pounded out Kimbo Slice and James McSweeney via the crucifix while beating wrestler Justin Wren by a majority decision in his second bout.
This is easily one of the most intriguing battles on Saturday night's main card. Not only is there a huge disparity in experience between both fighters, but they also seem to have a slight difference in the styles they bring to the table. Nelson is more of a methodical fighter who can use his stand-up game to eventually move to the ground and pound out his opponents. He uses his weight effectively to trap opponents, and he's very well-versed on the floor in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. Schaub fits more into the "firecracker" role. He's explosive and aggressive, and he''ll look to end this fight in impressive fashion.
Schaub, while being rather green in the sport at only 4-0, has an remarkable set of skills that he's molded at Nate Marquardt's High Altitude gym in Colorado while also splitting time at Greg Jackson's camp in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Within a couple of years of training, he was able to become a Golden Gloves champion in boxing in the state of Colorado while also obtaining his purple belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu. He is also a best friend and training partner of Shane Carwin, one of the most massive and powerful heavyweights in the UFC.
Most fans are going to pick the veteran in Roy Nelson, and I'll be the first to admit that he's the safe bet here. He has a plethora of experience, solid black belt level grappling ability, and his stand-up is highly underrated. But I've been playing it safe all year by listening to other "experts" and not listening to my gut, and my gut is telling me that Brendan Schaub has a legitimate shot at the upset here.
Schaub's boxing combined with his explosiveness is going to give him some chances on the feet to put Roy down for the count, but Roy is fairly good at using his jab to stop incoming opponents from crushing him into unconsciousness. Schaub will be the weaker guy on the ground as he'll have to deal with Nelson's weight, but training with Shane Carwin day-in and day-out isn't going to give Nelson an immense advantage by using his size.
I'm really banking on the training Schaub has been doing with Greg Jackson and Nate Marquardt to get him through this fight with Nelson. He has one of the best heavyweight training partners in a very heavy-handed Shane Carwin, and Nelson will have to dominate Schaub on the ground to truly beat him. It's possible, but I think Schaub is athletic enough to escape some of the ground exchanges and give Nelson a run for his money... and his conditioning as the fight wears on. I'll take Brendan Schaub via the upset.
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Schaub is MUCH better at scrambling than the other guys Roy faced in the house, and Roy was getting cracked in the stand-up by Mcsweeney of all people. Schaub could definitely pull this off; I’m not counting on it though.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions
Seriously?
People need to do some research. McSweeney is horrible, and I hate to say it… but all his talk about his background in pro kickboxing doesn’t mean much. He obviously wasn’t that unbelievably since he didn’t make it into the higher-rung amateur circuits in Europe, and he’s far from a K-1 fighter. He got completely blasted in Cage Rage twice, and Neil Grove crushed him, which is just… sad. It’s so sad, especially for all the crazy hype McSweeney talks about his kickboxing.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 4, 2009 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
Thank you.
So sick of the “But McSweeney is a pro kickboxer” talk, as if all kickboxers are of the same caliber and just by virtue of him having a handful of matches that makes him on the level of Hari.
Regardless of his kickboxing pedigree (or lack thereof) I think we can agree that Schaub showed more effective striking on the show, considering he KO’d two of his opponents while McSweeney was getting his head beat in by Matt Mitrione, who is at best a sloppy brawler.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
The funniest part was that Dana actually thought Mitrione could beat McSweeney. Sure, McSweeney’s kickboxing is garbage, but Mitrione’s stand-up is just comical to watch.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 4, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions
Does Dana predict before or after the fights?
Because I always know who’s going to win based on Dana’s prediction – Dana always picks the loser. It makes me think they do it after and they’re trying to build suspense by Dana picking the loser and the casual viewer is impressed when the other guy “pulls off the upset.”
And yeah, Mitrione is hilarious. He seems to favor this pawing jab-sloppy overhand-charge forward combo, followed by hands on the hips and heavy wheezing.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I did mean unbelievable. You actually had to reply to point out an obvious typo?
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by Leland Roling on Dec 4, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah...
there is nothing more annoying that “former pro boxer” or “former pro kickboxer” being thrown around as though it has meaning at all times. Context is very important in those cases.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 4, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
And the worst part is that McSweeney believes it. So, he probably shuns away striking training quite a bit to work on his ground skills when in reality… he isn’t that good at either.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 4, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
he's goin down to 205 for sure
he looked really bad against pretty big guys, i feel like he could perform better against smaller fighters, he’s a mini HW
by Austin Martin on Dec 4, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
Considering all of the b*tching Kimbo's doing about cutting 20 pounds
I seriously doubt it. The man has a commitment issue I think.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I can only base my opinion
of Schaub from what I’ve seen on the show, which is very little, but he seems to get taken down somewhat easily. He was able to survive and scramble, but Roy is a step up in terms of grappling and position control on the ground. I think Roy will win another somewhat pedestrian fight by maintaining top control. He’ll go on to be a notable gatekeeper from here, which isn’t all bad.
What doesn’t convince me about Schaub is his takedown defense, since both Demico, Madsen and Jones put him on his back, and Roy has pretty good top control
No shame in getting taken down by any of those guys really.
Madsen is a pure wrestler, it’s to be expected that he takes everyone down. Jones is just an animal too, really big and strong, so I think that was to be expected. I’m not too sure about Demico, but the point is that in all those fights Schaub showed something important, and that is that he has the ability to come back and win fights even when facing adversity. That makes him a dangerous fighter in the whole fight, and if Roy gives him too many openings he could be taking a nap.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah but I say that because thats pretty much the only glaring weakness that Nelson can exploit, since he probably can beat Roy stainding
Roy has pretty sloppy takedowns though.
I don’t know if you saw the McSweeney fight, but Roy’s first attempt was absolutely horrible. From way outside he simply put his head down and charged forward. Now if it gets to the clinch it’s a different story, which is why I think Schaub’s gameplan should rely heavily on avoiding the cage, where Roy could definitely get Schaub down and from there win the fight.
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by lowellthehammer on Dec 4, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Roy by submission
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I think in two years …Schaub absolutely destroys Nelson. But in two days? Not so much.
Schaub will eventually be the better fighter, but I think he needs to learn a few things before he reaches that potential. Roy is going to help him along that learning curve by exposing some of the things he needs to work on.
you do know that training for him started after taping, which was back in July right?
It’s not like this is going to be the same Schaub we saw in the show…
I’m picking Roy, but I think Schaub can win it.. Roy still trains mostly in his backyard, and Schaub trains in a top notch camp and would have surely improved a lot. Roy is also sloppy in his stand up, but still decides to bang for a few minutes, and I think Schaub can win it standing… but again, Im still banking on Roy’s experience to be able to get Schaub down and beat him on the ground..
via crucifix maybe.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 4, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions

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