Junior dos Santos vs. Gilbert Yvel Set for UFC 108
by Nick Thomas on Dec 3, 2009 3:45 PM EST
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According to tatame.com:
Junior dos Santos, boxing coach, Luis Dorea said the Brazilian heavyweight faces former Pride fighter Gilbert Yvel, who comes from an devastating knockout victory over Pedro Rizzo.
"’Cigano’ is a young guy, a great talent", Dorea said. "We know Gilbert is a very strong guy, he like to fight standing, but ‘Cigano’ is better in striking now, we’re doing our job and I know we’re gonna get the victory".
Talk about guaranteed fireworks.
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There will be blood
I love this fight.
Also, the picture at the top is probably the most violent thing I’ve seen since I watched Antichrist…
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I’m thoroughly creeped the %#$ out after reading that. Thanks.
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It was the rare movie where I had no idea, none whatsoever, to think after watching it. I had to start drinking immediately
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After Dogville, I cannot put up with LvT. Too damn pretentious, too little payoff.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve found myself in the unfortunate circumstances of subjecting myself to The Idiots and Dancer in the Dark. While I found them grating and untruthful, I found the pretentious out-of-touch artsy side that I hadn’t known since college.
Dogville and The Idiots are horrible. I allowed myself to be fooled by Antichrist’s trailer, which is quite intriguing whereas the movie isn’t. Very beautifully shot, but there’s just nothing there.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Oh – seen Dancer in the Dark, too. I could practically feel the strings coming out the screen as they tried to rip my heart out. Luckily, I don’t have one…
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
Dancer in the Dark was bad
Requiem for a Dream fucked me up, but I loved it, great movie. Dancer just made me feel like shit.
irreversable
is the most disturbingly violent movie I’ve ever seen, it’s one continous shot which makes it appear real
by cagefightonacid on Dec 3, 2009 6:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Indeed
That like 15 minute station scene + extinguisher GNP = most disturbing EVAR.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM EST up reply actions
i have, my favorite scene is where he is shooting people in the park
by cagefightonacid on Dec 5, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, for Yvel.
Seriously though, I think Dos Santos will be fine on his fine, even though Yvel is a monster. Wasn’t JDS Brazilian kickboxing champ?
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I wouldn’t write off Yvel. He’s a world-class kickboxer. Dos Santos is good on the feet and has a lot of power. He has a lot more of a puncher’s chance but that said, he’s at a serious disadvantage on the feet.
I’m not sure who I think will win, but it will probably be JDS. But not because he’s a better striker.
We might find out what Cigano’s wrestling and top game look like, because Yvel is useless on the ground. Might be smarter to go in that direction.
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“Takedowns are bullshit” – Gilbert Yvel KEEPS IT REAL!
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
Hope everyone has their helmets ready for this one.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
Hope they give whoever is reffing this a Redman suit and any and all weapons he wishes for.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 4, 2009 3:32 AM EST up reply actions
I think the rumors of the UFC’s demise were premature. There is no lack of effort from the UFC to make great cards.
And I also don’t think Couture-Coleman will end up as the Main Event at 109, as another article claimed.
Dude, I don’t think anyone was actually saying the UFC would die. Most of the stuff had “DEMISE” in the title for hits. It was mostly saying the UFC was in for a downturn. They’ll always make money in my mind. I never saw what all the hoopla was about.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Don't sugarcoat it, Leland
MMA will be dead in six months.
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LOL, yeah… and I’ll win the Mega Millions when it hits $400 million.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:25 PM EST up reply actions
Good, then you can buy the UFC when it goes bankrupt next spring.
by ufc4 on Dec 3, 2009 4:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I already quit watching it
and reading MMA websites.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
Calm down Leland. I borrowed a phrase that is used all the time in sports.
The point is (for the Gajjin as well), that the UFC isn’t sitting around, content to give us substandard PPV cards, even though they’ve been beseiged by a rash of injuries and “retirements” to their biggest PPV draws and title holders.
There’s a little time left before UFC 108 and 109, and we’ll probably be surprised at how the UFC finishes off those cards to give fans a quality product.
Wow this came out of nowhere....
Awesome fight though!
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST reply actions
awesome fight!
damn.. its hard to convince the ref on the pic that a fighter is done.
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Why didnt Strikeforce pick up Gilbert?
by The Bronzeville Bully on Dec 3, 2009 3:59 PM EST reply actions
They already have a known cheater in Mike Kyle. You can get away with one. You sign two and you’ve got a trend.
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They could have done an old school Vale Tudo fight between Kyle and Yvel with eye gouging, foot stomps, everything. Throw in some steel chairs too.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
He wanted to sign with the UFC
He’s been saying it for many months.
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I hate Yvel with a passion. But wow great sighning and another big stiker for JDS to fight. If he wins this whats next? Or maybe a Yvel vs Frye 2 revenge of the eye rake
by bigc4277 on Dec 3, 2009 3:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
dos Santos v. Yvel
Wonderful!
I think Yvel is a little underrated in the rankings, though that’s more of a function of the weakness of the division than his own tremendous success.
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Also
Having Barnett sit on his face for fifteen minutes didn’t do much for his cred.
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by Blackout612 on Dec 3, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Barnett getting punched in the face for fifteen minutes by a man whose face he was sitting on didn’t do much for his cred, either.
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by Brett Jones on Dec 3, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Surprised to see so much positivity about Yvel
Guess it just speaks to how little is actually going on in the UFC’s near future.
Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
Positivity?
He’s fun to watch. Not asking him to house sit for me..
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by Blackout612 on Dec 3, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’m just saying that it’s mildly surprising that the same group of people that sh*t all over Yvel fighting Barnett are now thrilled that he’s fighting on an even bigger platform where if he gets pissed off in the middle of a fight and does something like oh I don’t know punch a ref it will reflect poorly on the UFC and the sport as a whole.
Without pain, without sacrifice, we would have nothing.
by lowellthehammer on Dec 3, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Barnett vs. Yvel was an eliminator for Fedor. It’s not like Dos Santos gonna fight for the UFC title if he beats Gilbert.
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So AA was going to fight JB on the same event he fought Fedor? Not sure why, but this is not ringing a bell for me. Not questioning it, but who was Fedor going to fight if not AA?
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Barnett was scheduled to fight Arlovski on the original date for the card, then it got moved, and Fedor was able to fight on the new date.
by JRN on Dec 3, 2009 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
In the first place it was Barnett who replaced Fedor at the Affliction show which did not happen. So in January they just redid the original fight and Yvel was not a replacement.
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That at least 4 of those 31 KOs were against refs.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Dec 3, 2009 4:48 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
are you actually trying to justify what he did? I’m not sure if that’s accurate regarding the ref, but even if it is, there is no justification for what he did. The ref was trying to put him in a position from before and Yvel was just not having it and boom, down goes the ref!
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Guess Yvel felt he was too big a name to be ordered around by a lowly Finnish ref. I hope the ref’s jaw healed ok.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 4, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
I would be cautious about this fight. 108 is in Vegas and Nevada denied Yvel a liscense for PRIDE 33.
by Jonathan Snowden on Dec 3, 2009 4:07 PM EST reply actions
Nevada recently granted him a license.
by bigc4277 on Dec 3, 2009 4:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I could have sworn that the NSAC just granted Yvel a license.
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You missed the bus apparently.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
God dammit Jonathan you’re supposed to be the one breaking this shit, we shouldn’t have to be filling you in.
by ufc4 on Dec 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Where’s the feigned disgust for the #5 HW in the world fighting Gilbert Yvel? Wasn’t everyone bitching and belly-aching when he was fighting Barnett? Figures.
Disclosure: I’m excited for this fight and think it will be fireworks, but just more evidence of the bias among some people here.
by The_Gaijin on Dec 3, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I didn’t really understand all the crazy bitching. I mean, yeah… he did some stupid shit in the past, but they give guys who fight with three narcotics in their systems a second chance… why not Yvel?
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
That fight had a defined title shot for the victor. Ridiculous argument..
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by Blackout612 on Dec 3, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahaha
I guess BE flags and deletes only arguments that people flag and whine about now…why delete one line of posts but leave a factually incorrect post. Intellectually dishonesty in the furtherance of argument is not much better than teasing about facial hair. I’ll admit the immaturity of one, but the existence of the other is no less defensible.
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2008/12/3/678535/gilbert-yvel-vs-josh-barne
I’d love to see Blackout’s response to this…why is it so off base to compare these situations? Initial reactions are as dichotomous as they get but I recall being told equating the situations was akin to lunacy. I don’t see one word about title eliminator, so that fictitious line of argument is completely exposed…
I didn't flag it
I told you I would if you did it again.
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You must have missed it
I’m not retreading this for an entire day.
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Must have...it got deleted.
Summary:
It was because it was a “title eliminator” and just not a top 5 fighter fighting Yvel, and hey that could be an exciting fight because Yvel is a dangerous dude. But let’s just ignore the fact that the reaction to the initial announcement is located in ^that link and it says NOTHING about “title eliminator”, “#1 contender” or “winner fights Fedor” and reaction to the fight is located HERE, which is 99% polar opposite. Which was the ENTIRE point. So no need to retread for an entire day, because as you said – “You’ve lost this point.”
Feel free to blackline for inconsistencies.
I think the stylistic disadvantage between Barnett and Yvel was a significant contributor to the “bitching and moaning” about that fight being made. Everyone knew Barnett would get the takedown and sub Yvel fairly quickly…that didn’t happen but what did happen was still pretty painful to watch.
JDS doesn’t pose the same stylistic problems. No doubt, he is still better than Yvel on the ground but he prefers to strike…something Yvel happens to be good at. So, it is aesthetically pleasing and stylistically favorable for the underdog.
Having said that, JDS via Americana in the 1st.
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by MyFistYourFace on Dec 3, 2009 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
Styles make fights. This style matchup seems exciting.
Yvel is a replacement for the original opponent, Gonzaga, who withdrew because of injury.
I wasn’t dogging Barnett-Yvel, but context does matter to those who perhaps did dog that fight.
Yvel is a replacement for the original opponent, Gonzaga, who withdrew because of injury.
Yvel was a replacement for Barnett’s original opponent.
Not true, the original fight was Fedor vs. Arlovski at the Affliction show that did not happen.
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Also not true. Aleks didn’t pass his physicals before Affliction 1, so before Affliction 2 the alredy knew he can’t fight in US.
Dos Santos vs. Gonzaga was signed and Yvel is a replacment for an injured fighter. In case of Barnett it was Yvel who was his first signed opponent, so it was not a replacement. Atencio was saying how great fight it is since it was announced, never mentioned it was their second option.
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Can I put ten virtual dollars on Yvel doing something batshiat insane? Maybe a Mike Tyson ear bite? Also, I will run a lap if he decks Mazzagatti or Miragliotta in a berserker rage.
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Mazz KO'd
Might be what Dana is banking on..
by fedorade on Dec 3, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Considering how often CroCop was able to land on Dos Santos with his “Poor Man’s Machida” strategy of throwing counter left crosses, I’m a little concerned about what Yvel might do to him.
by smoogy2 on Dec 3, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Is this what I think it is?
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I think you know what you want to admit, smoogy. Yvel via KO. Just fucking say it. Because I’m on board.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t see Santos shooting for takedowns, so I’ll go along with Yvel via KO. We don’t know much about Cigano’s chin though, maybe he just gets battered for three rounds. At any rate, that CroCop fight made me realize that Dos Santos doesn’t really have the speed or boxing prowess to close the distance effectively. His jab isn’t great, and he doesn’t really set up his power punches.
HE'd be insane not to...
Why test fate with a guy that’s got such limited ground skills and crippling striking? JDS is a Black House guy, surely to goodness they can prep him to deal with Yvel on the ground.
Cigano would be dumb not to try to take it to the floor. If it stays standing, Yvel has a great chance at KOing him.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
I, too, am on the Yvel crazy train.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Dec 3, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yvel by ref KO!
jk, Cigano gonna take his head off.
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Matyushenko vs Cantwell added to the card as well, per Meltzer’s newsletter.
Pretty tough fight for Cantwell to take coming off a loss.
No pressure Cantwell…
Win Igor Pokrajac Unanimous Decision UFC 103 FRANKLIN vs BELFORT Sep-19-2009 3 5:00
Loss Brian Stann Unanimous Decision UFC Fight Night DIAZ vs GUILLARD Sep-16-2009 3 5:00
Loss Luiz Cane Unanimous Decision UFC 97 REDEMPTION Apr-18-2009 3 5:00
Matyushenko absolutely went to town on Pokrajac’s face in that fight. It was a thing of beauty.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I loved that fight. I was going crazy & my dad kept asking me why I liked the pudgy guy so much. If Matyushenko had a complete killer instinct, he could have finished Pokrajac several times over. He just beat the piss out of him.
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
He ran off like a fucking six or seven punch combo on Pokrajac’s chin at one point.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
I KNOW!!! People talk about him being a boring grappler, but I love watching him fight. Is this undercard?
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
It had me laughing as hard as the Kerry Vera vs Kim Couture fight, it was so epic.
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by Leland Roling on Dec 3, 2009 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
Almost certainly
But I don’t like Cantwell, so I’d love to see the Janitor mash him up.
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Just watched the highlight in the post
And the music made me fire up the roflcopter. The first song is a remix of Linkin Park (haha) and the second is some metal that goes “Fuck the world and all it’s worth” or something like that, idk i won’t recheck the lyrics
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 3, 2009 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
should've recognized it
I’m not into that scene at all, but I obviously know about Dimebag Darrell
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Does it seem that
dos Santos is working backwards?
Werdum
Struve
Cro Cop
Yvel
Not exactly backwards—Cro Cop was a step up from Struve. But every one of his post-Werdum opponents has been a step back from Werdum. It’s weird.
by JRN on Dec 3, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
It’s a replacement fight, too, though. And Yvel is pretty underrated. Just doesn’t have the same implications as the Gonzaga fight would have.
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Gonzaga would have been a step back too, since he’s already lost to Werdum.
by JRN on Dec 3, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Yvel by groin gouge.
Keep firing Assholes!
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Once the video is over you can scroll through and (re)watch the gem of a video when Gilbert nearly knocks the refs head off.
what on earth was going on there? That was confusing. They looked like they were having some kind of touching contest where the ref was touching and the fighters touching and everyone touching, and then walking away from each other, then suddenly Yvel KO’s the ref. Weird.
That’s one of the weirdest videos of all time. Were they having trouble restarting? what the fuck
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On the youtube video, it appeared that people thought they were having trouble getting the standing position back, I’m wondering though why it was stopped in the first place? And was Yvel simply not cooperating with the restart? If the ref was his opponents’ trainer, why did the guy just casually walk away after Yvel KO’d him and then soccer kicked him afterwards?
It was stopped because the fighters were about to fall out of the ring. Yvel wasn’t cooperating with the restart, he was refusing to restart from the same position they were before the restart – and boom, decked the ref. Classy.
I actually didn’t know the ref was Atte Backman’s (Yvel’s opponent) coach, but punching the ref is still not kosher. Backman walked away from the ring because the fight was over – and I guess he didn’t feel like trying to deal with a pissed-off madman.
Yvel was really wired up all night after that, his entourage had a hell of a time trying to stop him from doing more stupidities.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 4, 2009 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
bad news for cigano fans
which is me… seriously though, yvel’s striking should be avoided
by cagefightonacid on Dec 3, 2009 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
YES! YES! YES! THANK YOU GOD! THANK YOU UFC!
I am a huge fan of Gilbert “The Hurricane” Yvel, but I am also a huge fan of Junior “Cigano” Dos Santos. I was waiting for the UFC to finally pick up Yvel, and his first fight is against someone that will stand and trade with him. Both of these fighters are killers on their feet, and I can’t actually pick a winner.
Great fight.
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