FieLDS Dynamite!! 2009 Betting Odds
by Nick Thomas on Dec 29, 2009 8:20 PM EST
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Masato (54-6-2) -175 vs. Andy Souwer (134-8-1) +145
Satoshi Ishii (0-0) -280 vs. Hidehiko Yoshida (8-7-1) +220
Gegard Mousasi (27-2-1) -1100 vs. Gary Goodridge (23-19-1) +600
Kazuo Misaki (22-9-2) -200 vs. Melvin Manhoef (23-6-1) +160
Shinya Aoki (22-4) -500 vs. Mizuto Hirota (12-3-1) +300
Tatsuya Kawajiri (25-5-2) -550 vs. Kazunori Yokota (11-2-3) +350
Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto (17-2) -550 vs. Masanori Kanehara (15-7-5) +350
Hideo Tokoro (23-19-1) -215 vs. Kim Jong Man (20-10-3) +175
Hayato "Mach" Sakurai (35-9-2) -215 vs. Akihiro Gono (30-15-7) +175
Hiroyuki Takaya (12-7-1) -135 vs. Michihiro Omigawa (8-8-1) +105
Katsuyori Shibata (4-6-1) -135 vs. Hiroshi Izumi (0-1) +105
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (7-4) -285 vs. Ikuhisa Minowa (43-30-8) +225
Alistair Overeem (31-11) -1100 vs. Kazuyuki Fujita (15-8) +600
Ray Sefo (2-0) -600 vs. Yosuke Nishijima (0-5) +400
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Gegard Mousasi (27-2-1) -1100 vs. Gary Goodridge (23-19-1) +600
wow
can you imagine if Mousasi loses?
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Masato the favorite over Souwer?
"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni
Masato is going to be the favorite over just about any lightweight kickboxer in the world except maybe Petrosyan.
by George Lucas on Dec 29, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Masato has ridiculous amounts of hype behind him thanks to FEG and Schiavello, whereas Souwer is coming in as the understudy for Petrosyan. Gamblers think they’re smart by paying attention to that sort of thing.
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions
The fact that Gegard Mousasi is fighting Gary f’ing Goodridge…
a) Why not just shoot Gary in the head? It should be a felony to put him in the ring against anyone, much less a top guy. The dude is shot, burned out, and reshot.
b) This really kinda proves how empty the promotions outside the UFC can be. This is a match that no one even imagined, much less wanted. This makes Jose Canseco v. Choi look like a real fight. Is this really what a top ten guy should be doing with his time?
I’m appalled. This is beyond the pale. It is absurd and cruel.
"an excellent example of why most MMA "journalism" is a joke. Pseudonyms like "toxic" and shitty writing like that dopey article"--- Joe Rogan.
by toxic on Dec 29, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
lol...
from the director of “Frankenhooker”. Quality stuff there.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 30, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
I have a feeling that Aoki will get Kitaoka'd
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Aoki's not as much of a one trick pony as Kitaoka, but I just have a gut feeling...
I see knees to the cranium in Aoki’s future.
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No he yacked after getting like 20 knees to the head.
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Hmm, I don’t remember that. Sengoku 9, right? Maybe Youtube has something. Sure don’t look like puke though.
That part wasn't televised.
The rest of the sequence of pics.
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“Hey Griswold, why don’t you give me half of the money you were going to bet, I take you out back and kick you in the nuts and we call it a night?”
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
by Day Man on Dec 29, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
You should just donate that to a charity.
The thought of throwing money away is harsh.
"Well... You're damned if you do, and You're damned if you don't."- Bart Simpson
by poundnground on Dec 29, 2009 8:56 PM EST up reply actions
Pulling out
works 100% of the time in MMA.
by CSKit on Dec 29, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The odds don’t look like this on bookmaker. Some of the bigger differences:
Masato -130/Souwer EVEN
Misaki -167/Manhoef +147
Aoki -355/Hirota +285
Kawajiri -355/Yokota +285
Kid -375/Kanehara +305
Sefo -405/Weirdo +325
Plus there’s a cool prop bet – Who wins more fights?
Dream -345
Sengoku +275
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
....
Surprised that Manhoef isn’t the favorite, or it might be my ignorance of his opponent. But in all fairness Manhoef is a killing machine!!!!!
HI YAH!
by Thats It For you! on Dec 29, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions
Mizaki has fought Riggs, Jorge Santiago, Akiyama, Trigg, Kang, Hendo (twice) Marquardt (twice) and Baroni and never been TKO’d in his career, other than a broken arm once. He’s well-known for his chin. Yes, Melvin hits harder than any of them, but Misaki is the real deal.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
Misaki doesn’t have a ground game to speak of and thus is going to get murdered. He’s a tough, smart and patient striker, but Manhoef’s power and technique are simply on another level.
Manhoef as an underdog in this fight is ridiculous.
by George Lucas on Dec 29, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Misaki doesn’t have a ground game? His 9 subs say otherwise.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
Thanks for the fightfinder stats brosef but basically if you’ve ever seen Misaki fight you’d know what I was talking about.
by George Lucas on Dec 29, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
Oooh I must not know anything because I used a stat! Come on. I’ve seen his last 15 fights or so, and you’re dead wrong. He most definitely has the ability to get Manhoef on the floor and sub him. The one with no ground game at all is Manhoef.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
Manhoef "Doesn't do ground game"
But he does mangle people on the feet.
He’s like a fight cloud from the comic strips, son.
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i love manhoef!!! but i get a little worried whenever he is fighting mma.
by cagefightonacid on Dec 30, 2009 1:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Of all of those fights you listed in your first reply in this thread, which ones would you say really showed off Misaki’s ground skills?
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 2:12 AM EST up reply actions
Okay tell that to Frank Trigg and Jorge Santiago.
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions
Frank Trigg and Jorge Santiago are also both grapplers. Losing to them—and Trigg didn’t even submit Misaki—doesn’t mean that Misaki has no ground game.
Trigg also beat Olympic judo gold medalist Makoto Takimoto by unanimous decision—does Takimoto have no ground game?
Jorge Santiago submitted Jeremy Horn—does Jeremy Horn have no ground game?
The Afghani grappling sensation Siyar Bahadurzada?? Color me impressed.
Nakamura got tapped only after Misaki KO’ed him with a knee, but thanks for using fightfinder to try and prove me wrong instead of watching fights.
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, he’s a black belt in judo. You’re wrong. Just stop.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
First he ruined Star Wars, then Indiana Jones. Now he’s trying to trash the Grabaka Hitman (? since he left Grabaka)……
F George Lucas.
by Chris Barton on Dec 30, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions
And that also means precisely dick because in any fight that’s ever mattered he’s been a striker.
Throw fightfinder stats or biographical notes at me all you want, the proof is in the pudding.
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Following a striking based strategy and getting easily dominated on the ground by Frank Trigg and Jorge Santiago = having no ground game to speak of.
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions
Your logic is mindnumbing, jar jar.
Sure, he’s decided to stand and trade with some of his opponents. But he’s used his grappling skills in others, which you’re conveniently choosing to ignore.
You said he “had no ground game to speak of”. This statement is obviously false, no matter how you try to weasel your way around it.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
Since you’re so big on examples, go back and re-watch Siyar vs. Misaki. Big striker vs. “the guy with no ground game to speak of”.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
He tapped out a no-name can, this shakes my theory to the very core!
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hey this Eric Esch guy has 7 submissions on his record, that dude must be quite the grappler!
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
A “no-name can” that’s the Shooto LHW champ. Sure buddy. Keep chirping.
Go look at what Leland has to say about the card. I’m done with you.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
haha yes shooto has always been known for its quality light heavyweight division
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
also leland thinks Manhoef will KO him spectacularly so even your appeal to authority fails you
by George Lucas on Dec 30, 2009 7:22 PM EST up reply actions
And apparently you don’t understand “this is totally NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, but I’m a fanboy so I’m going with Manhoef”. Way to comprehend.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
that was truly an expert display of Misaki’s grappling prowess we saw this morning
by George Lucas on Dec 31, 2009 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm surprised Ishii's a favorite
I know Yoshida’s pretty creaky at this point but still, an 0-0 guy who we’ve never seen take a punch as favorite? It’s not a Judo match.
And is Goodridge really in such rough shape? I’ve lost track of him since Pride.
by WanderleiNoooooo! on Dec 29, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not so much that Ishii is favored, it’s by how much that surprises me. Perhaps the oddsmakers thought it was a who has the biggest head contest.
by ufc4 on Dec 29, 2009 9:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’d LOL so hard if Yoshida somehow beat Ishii.
"True strength is not always shown through victory. Stand up, try again and display strength of heart."
Rickson Gracie
Ishii is untested.
For all we know, his jaw might be made of tissue paper. I wouldn’t be surprised if he loses.
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Dude has a monster head and neck. Guys like that very seldom have glass jaws.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
His head and neck are Fujitaesque, but this is MMA.
Anything can happen.
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-1100 lol
and they still seem like fair odds, given who they’re facing.
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 29, 2009 10:16 PM EST reply actions
Were I a betting man, I would put some money on both Kanehara and Nishijima. Both have a very strong shot at winning, much more so than the line would have you think.
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by Fraser Coffeen on Dec 29, 2009 10:17 PM EST reply actions
I think Nishijima has taken enough beatings to the point where any threat he would have posed to Sefo has pretty much gone. But I’m not ruling out Kanehara at all.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Also Nishijima is wearing shoes!!! K-1 rules, w shoes. well played sir well played. also good luck.
by Gerrymanderer on Dec 29, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Nishijima
Got sub’d by BARONI…. let that sink in
by Chris Barton on Dec 30, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Mousasi, what is this bullshit?
Keep firing Assholes!
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Dream should take all the blame.
You can’t really get mad at Mousasi or his management, they are being offered a bunch of money for any easy fight on the most important Japanese event of the year, so of course they should take it. But Dream? C’mon, this isn’t 2003. Lets try to stay relative to the sport scene here Tokyo.
I pretty much agree, I mean if you’re gonna get $75,000 or $100,000 to go out there and win an easy fight in front of a huge audience that’s gonna be difficult to turn down.
Manhoef, why not him?
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Maybe Manhoef said no to Mousasi?
Either way it is up to Dream to offer the fight. If a fighter won’t take it you don’t just give him a squash match just to make him happy.
Or
Dream wants to save it for the 205lbs tournament?
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Ah, during Mousasi’s off his back tour of doom. Manhoef should of listened to Bas and not try and slam him.
by John Nash on Dec 30, 2009 3:28 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Silly me...
You are correct sir.
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Maybe we’re all confused and they just mean Musashi… because that would be closer.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Boo on no Sakuraba. Why would they not put such a popular star on the card when it clearly looked like he was ready to go. The argument that there is no one relevant for him to fight kinda goes out the window here (see Mousasi and Overeem above).
Is this masatos retirement fight? Thats the impression I get from schiavellos tweets.
Japanese promoters sure love to put on squash fights
by kanodogg on Dec 30, 2009 9:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
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