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Dana White UFC 108 VLOG Part 2

Featuring new and improved Dana White reporter bashing!  Dana White is...not happy about the UFC 108 coverage from Jake Rossen.

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Loved the Rossen stuff.

But what was up with the Paul Daley informecial at the end?

by danilito on Dec 29, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions  

Probably just a clip from the countdown show.

"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate

by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 29, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!! I couldn’t agree more with the Rossen stuff, I absolutely cant stand the stuff that he writes.

by iamtheoriginalchris on Dec 29, 2009 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Ha

When Dana paused when saying “Do you guys just hire a bunch of…dicks?” I couldn’t help but think that Dana was making sure he didn’t go over board like he did with Loretta. lol

Definately worth the watch, again. Not alot happens, but Dana chewing out Sherdog, and then the Daley stuff was pretty good. Hope the quality stays like this.

"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate

by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 29, 2009 12:17 PM EST reply actions  

Who is the afro toy at the beginning? Marquardt? Vitor?

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Dec 29, 2009 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

My guess is Marquardt, or crazy hair Evan Tanner.

"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate

by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 29, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought it looked like AA

by Chris Barton on Dec 29, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Just from the face, it’s AA.

"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."

by spectaa on Dec 29, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Carlos Newton

would be my guess

" Tell me something Steve, How does a guy from Puerto Rico loose a ball in the Sun? "

by aaronb on Dec 29, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

given the hair, the beard and that Dana joked about it looking like a vampire… AA with his famous mouthpiece

by xharekx33 on Dec 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Was that a Don Frye doll?

by grein on Dec 29, 2009 12:21 PM EST reply actions  

Mustache action figure!! *(Don Frye also available)*

by fedorade on Dec 29, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Role model.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Dec 29, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I pray you're being sarcastic...

and not actually concerned about my phrasing there

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

It is funny how you mislabeled his profession when it is your own profession as well

by HighNoon on Dec 30, 2009 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

After all the hoopla about the Rossen thing I expected it to be far worse. This was actually kinda funny.

by Chris Barton on Dec 29, 2009 12:22 PM EST reply actions  

The Rossen thing was kind of funny, but I did find it kind of disappointing that he had no idea who Ben Askren is.

by Steve4192 on Dec 29, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Exact same thing I thought

"I fight because I can’t sing, I can’t dance, and it beats working all day. Now ask me a question that doesn’t sound so fucking stupid." – Phil Baroni

by midwestbred on Dec 29, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn’t even read Rossen’s article, but as soon as he said ‘some wrestler with an afro’, I knew it had to be Askren.

by Steve4192 on Dec 29, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Give it time

Joe Silva will know who he is, tell Dana, then Ben will be “the best new kid they have seen”.

by Chris Barton on Dec 29, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i really hope daley brings it

he could certainly inject some much needed excitement into WW.

Him, Hardy and Paulo are the only ones keeping it in interesting right now.

by ruckus on Dec 29, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

lol

why not, i’ll give that a rec

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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 29, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t watch, but I read the transcript over at WatchKalibRun and props to them for writing that out.

Seems like he takes this too personally. Like he wants people to get pissed off about it. And he was over playing his anger for the guy on the phone. Seemed a little manipulative, like he was working the guy on the phone and the viewing public via the camera. There is nothing wrong with him hating Rossen or thinking his articles are worth nothing. He is certainly entitled to his opinion.

I think the tell was him playing dumb on Askren, I would bet money that he knows who askren is and was just making a point.

Some people think I am a dumb, ugly human being, but really I am a beautiful ape, with exceptional verbal skills.

by szucconi on Dec 29, 2009 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

He might actully not know who Askern is. Do you think say Hal Steinbrenner knows the face of every top prospect in A Ball ?

by Shocbomb on Dec 29, 2009 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No, but I know who he is, and a large number of hardcore fans know him. Dana is first a promoter and then a hardcore fan. Its his business to know the top level prospect not only ones that are established, but ones that he can get in early on and get cheap. Steinbrenner might have a good idea about a lot of top guys, but its a much larger scope then knowing who Ben is.

Some people think I am a dumb, ugly human being, but really I am a beautiful ape, with exceptional verbal skills.

by szucconi on Dec 29, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks like White has roid rage…

by dancingChicken on Dec 29, 2009 1:06 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t really like rossen either… he comes off as bias and uninterested.

by cagefightonacid on Dec 29, 2009 1:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

The funny part is that this guy is being serious.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 29, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you have to spoil everything?

"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba

by Charles Awad on Dec 29, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

(nod)

http://www.vancouversun.com/mma

by Ozzz on Jan 3, 2010 1:37 AM EST up reply actions  

no way brent

I agree with everything you said… I just don’t like rossen. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say anything positive about the ufc.

by cagefightonacid on Dec 29, 2009 1:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I dasagree on a bunch of stuff he said
And while White can say fighting is a barrier-breaker, the fact remains that cultural and environmental stop signs remain

Obviously, but it’s nothing like trying to feed us baseball and american football. The fighters are from everywhere, and when you talk UFC, you talk boxing, karate, judo, etc… this we know about.
To us it’s not a foreign product, it’s just a foreign brand.

"You hit too hard, too hard, too hard..."

by spectaa on Dec 29, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Where are you from?

Just out of curiosity

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m spanish and I totally agree. Although MMA is a loooong way from being a recognized sport among 99% of the population here.

by xharekx33 on Dec 29, 2009 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its a case

of Dana really underestimating the intelligence of a lot of the fans. He believes that writers and reporters should function as an arm of his promotion and is dumbfounded when they don’t.

Some writers/reporters obviously feel more obligated to the fans who they’re writing for.

by bleve_ on Dec 29, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only is it not Sherdog’s job to promote the event, but they do in fact promote every single UFC event. Not an event goes by without a Sherdog preview, and probably a few articles and interviews to boot. I sincerely doubt that Sherdog.com is turning anyone away from UFC events; in fact, I’d wager they’re doing the opposite.

White is apparently upset that Rossen didn’t choose to write that particular blog post about UFC 108, as though it’s some sort of either/or proposition for the whole web site: publish stuff about UFC 108 or other stuff, not both.

And as Brent mentioned, there’s nothing really wrong, let alone anti-MMA, about Rossen’s article. Many people in the comments here were saying similar things about how MMA will almost certainly not be the biggest sport in the world in 10 years.

So what this tells you, if you didn’t already know, is that in Dana White’s mind, MMA = UFC = Dana White, and to criticize any one of these, however mildly, is to criticize all of them.

by JRN on Dec 29, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

that's so true

Anything against the ufc in dana’s opinion is against the sport. He should just admit ufc 108 is the weakest card since 78. 85 was pretty bad too. He’s gotta realize the ufc is not a sport…mma is.

by Hellrazer on Dec 29, 2009 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

Dana is really going overboard with this stuff. In no other sport would this type of outburst be tolerated from a major figure. No other sport.

by FreeFocus on Dec 29, 2009 2:08 PM EST reply actions  

In other sports there is someone to answer to. Not in MMA. I would bet Dan Snyder hates a few writers, but he stays away from media and would get punished if he said stuff like this. The “first” bashing of Hunt, slurs aside, was nothing but positive for White. This time, he dropped the slurs and I would bet is waiting for the fallout.

Also, are people surprised that someone with a financial interest in something doesn’t want people saying bad things about it and wants other places to cover it more? This is unspoken negotiations, White wants everyone to bend to his will, he asks for more then what he expects.

Some people think I am a dumb, ugly human being, but really I am a beautiful ape, with exceptional verbal skills.

by szucconi on Dec 29, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s not about a hierarchy being in place with Dana having someone to answer to, it’s about fans and news outlets putting the spotlight on this type of behavior. If Dana keeps this up, word will get out beyond just the MMA community, and the results won’t be pretty.

by FreeFocus on Dec 29, 2009 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

There isn’t any evidence supporting that conclusion. His tirade about Hunt went far beyond the reach of the MMA community and it had no real negative effect.

by Chris Barton on Dec 29, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

You dont think in other sports there is reporter bashing?

You must not watch a lot of sports then. A lot in the NFL or College Football you will see a player/coach go after a memeber of the media because they think they are spouting bull shit.

The only diffference is when football fans see reporter bashing they dont care. When mma fans see reporter bashing they say its gonna “bring down the sport”

by bigdmmafan on Dec 29, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

No…the difference is that it’s the president of a company vs. a player or coach. That is a HUGE difference

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Give me a break Brent

The only people that give a damn about Dana White bashing Jake Rossen are the hardcore fans.

Go tp ESPN.com, FoxSports.com, CNN.com, any major website doesnt care enough to put this up.

Most mma fans dont care, outside of the few very hardcore fans who are convinced that Dana is setting the sport back ages and that anybody else could have had the same success as Dana given the situation.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 29, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Give you a break? You said there was no difference between players and coaches going after media and White doing it. I pointed out the difference. And the Loretta thing DID get front page status at ESPN, Fox Sports and a few other places, and it still gets brought up by the mainstream media when they talk about White.

Bashing Rossen isn’t a huge deal. But it’s odd, pointless, dumb and wrong. While he has done great things for the sport it doesn’t mean that he is above questioning.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It doesnt matter though and that is the point

The same people were on here saying White is setting the sport back after the Loretta Hunt thing and then what 3 months later they set a UFC and mma record for PPV buys.

Or another take on it. Bob Arum, Arum called all mma fans what was White Racist Skinheads and everybody on here was outraged but I bet a good amount of those outraged fans still ordered Pacquiao/Cotto and even more of those outraged fans will order May/Pac.

Your right on 1 thing. It’s odd, pointless, dumb, and wrong but it is not going to affect the UFC because people dont tune in to see Dana, hell before this most people didnt care for him or what he had to say.
They tune in to watch fights and as long as the UFC continues to deliver on good fights then Dana calling a reporter a dick doesnt matter.

by bigdmmafan on Dec 29, 2009 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Montreal Screw Job says hello

"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"

by Lay 'n' Pray on Dec 29, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

In no other sport would this type of outburst be tolerated from a major figure

Ever hear of Bob Arum & Don King?

by Steve4192 on Dec 29, 2009 3:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Don King killed a man over $600

I’d say Dana is pretty tame for a fight promoter

Don is the man though, if you are willing to look past his moral flexibility

by HighNoon on Dec 30, 2009 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

In my opinion Dana being upset with Rossen goes back to his attitude if you aren’t with them helping to grow the UFC then you are against them. Looking from the outside in it does appear he takes it too personal at times and lets his mouth say things it shouldn’t professionally. I would like to think it’s his passion for the UFC that causes that attitude but it could be he is just that arrogant. Either way it gets in the way of him rationally dealing with situations like this.

Just another opinion but to me it does seem like there is a lot of MMA reporters who try to dissect every thing Dana says or does and write negative stories about it. While at the same time those same certain reporters seem to do the opposite with everything said or done by presidents of other MMA organizations. That might create an us against the world mentality for anyone having to go through that daily.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Dec 29, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

The weird part is that yet again they put this on a video on youtube.

It’s not live, they could have cut it out.

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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes your right. That phone call rant wouldn’t have lead off his vlog if he didn’t want it to. Maybe that answers my question on whether it’s arrogance or passion for his job.

Just BE.

by mattman73 on Dec 29, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that just goes to show that this really won’t hurt the business at all.

He knows that there is an army of fanboys that will get riled up about this and get excited, and that may even include some people who genarlly don’t drink the zuffa kool aid but get their panties in a bunch every time Rossen speaks.

by Phildo on Dec 29, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Dana needs to learn – in a hurry – that not everyone will like him, not everyone will agree with him and not everyone will think as highly of UFC as he does. What’s more, he can’t keep going off like that – in public, in front of cameras – all the time and not expect there to be consequences. The fans, we accept him as being a part of UFC and we’re willing to give him leeway because of everything he’s done for the sport. However, his antics will turn some people off – and especially if he’s dead serious about MMA growing as much as he wants it to, it might be a good idea to dial that act back quite a bit and save the f-bombing to places where there are no cameras or outsiders around.

More and more, I’m starting to feel like Dana thinks he needs to act tough to be ‘one of the guys’ – in relation to the fighters. Someone should inform him that this is not the way to do it.

by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Dec 29, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

Mind-bogglingly stupid. Pure egomania. I’ve never really indulged in the Dana-bashing to the extent that most have, but Lorenzo or someone needs to give him a bitch slap and tell him to reign it the fuck in.

I like the Yvel/Daley coverage though, hope to see more of that.

by An0nymous on Dec 29, 2009 2:22 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

How is the sport going to grow if MMA reporters are constantly trying to drag it down?

"of a world thats doing its best, night and day,
to make me everybody else"

by Lay 'n' Pray on Dec 29, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

The problem is Rossen lives for that kind of reaction.

I’ll guarantee you he is sitting at home right now rubbing his hands together and giggling his ass off. Meanwhile, the folks at Sherdog are watching his page hit and clickthroughs go through the roof as people scramble to see what triggered this latest rant.

Dana’s rant has done nothing but encourage Rossen to go even further with his typical brand of pablum.

by Steve4192 on Dec 29, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Having the opinion that MMA won’t supplant soccer as the number 1 sport in the world is dragging it down?

by Tonley on Dec 29, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

only writing negative articles for site views will.

by cagefightonacid on Dec 29, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

But what was so negative about this article? Rossen only took issue with the fact that Dana believes that MMA will become this worldwide phenomenon in 10 years based only on the fact that people “get” fighting.

by Tonley on Dec 30, 2009 6:48 AM EST up reply actions  

and how is rossen going to tell the man who built the sport where it’s going to be in 10 years? he used dubai but neglected to mention the rest of the UAE

by cagefightonacid on Dec 30, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So is Rossen not supposed to give his opinion if he disagrees with Dana?

by Tonley on Dec 30, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Eh.

These reactions are getting a little old. If Dana wants to disagree with an editorial, that’s his right. With that being said, the idea that a writer disagreeing with him is bad for the sport is ridiculous. MMA is not going to collapse because Jake Rossen thinks soccer will be more popular than MMA in ten years.

The role of media is to report and provide analysis, not promote the UFC. If Dana wants to disprove Rossen, give me some facts to counter his. Don’t trot out tired arguments about how he’s “hurting the sport” and “doesn’t care about UFC 108.”

by Andy R on Dec 29, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

i agree, but most people won’t.

by cagefightonacid on Dec 29, 2009 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

I always think of Sherdog as being like FOX News or MSNBC.

It’s more about the personalities loving themselves and trying to eloquently and humorously jerk their intellectual genitalia while eventually remembering that they had a statement to make. The end of the analogy is that MMA Weekly is the Associated Press.

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-Randall Munroe

by pdl on Dec 30, 2009 1:04 AM EST up reply actions  

It isn’t Rossen or any other mma reporter’s duty to promote the ufc or to agree with any exaggerated claims that Dana makes. If a mma reporter doesn’t believe that the UFC will be bigger than soccer or even NFL it’s his right to do so.

Although I think mma will continue to keep growing it will never be as big as soccer. Although the UFC offers an ability employ patriotic sentiments to good effect in getting people to watch the sport (such as English fighters for english cards, Japanese fighters for the Japanese etc) it can never rouse the passion like a country’s soccer team can. Team sports can really feed off of national pride, although UFC will always have hometown fighters to get behind it isn’t really a mater of national pride if they lose.

Secondly although I love the UFC it is very much an American product, in a brash and loud kind of way. This will probably get by in England and Australia but if Dana wants to export the UFC to the rest of the non-english speaking world it seems like he may have to find a way to tone down its ‘Americanness.’

by TheBeaves on Dec 30, 2009 8:27 AM EST reply actions  

It gets a little more complex than that.

Their website will generate more traffic with the growth of MMA. It is in their best interest to promote the sport, and counterintuitive to question its future success to the public. He has the right to his opinions, but in this case it was not intelligent to voice it

by HighNoon on Dec 30, 2009 8:32 AM EST up reply actions  

It is in their best interest to promote the sport, and counterintuitive to question its future success to the public.

Why? It’s a news site, not an UFC cheerleader. When I go to a MMA news site I expect information on upcoming cards, bout breakdowns, and opinions on the sport. Isn’t criticism and analysis a part of journalism?

by Tonley on Dec 30, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

for a good long time

Sherdog was an anti-UFC machine… But i guess as long as they use the righ words it’s only an opinion.

I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.

by Loot on Dec 30, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Baddest British MF in the UFC?????? Isn't his training partner Dan Hardy

Thats kinda disrespect, especially when he’s getting the next title shot

by HighNoon on Dec 30, 2009 8:28 AM EST reply actions  

I always though good journalism was about telling the ‘truth’ rather than merely trying to get more website traffic/ sales. Its kind of an old fashioned view of journalism but it speaks to journalistic credibility. I generally think I can trust a journalist who will air opinions that are actually counter-beneficial to themselves.

by TheBeaves on Dec 30, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I always though good journalism was about telling the ‘truth’ rather than merely trying to get more website traffic/ sales.

Definitely rec worthy. These are bloggers who merely copycat the entertainers on Fox News, MSNBC etc.

I don’t care about so & so’s blog or personality, just give me the news, straight with no filler.

by JAYGK95 on Dec 30, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

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