Jon Jones, Gegard Mousasi: Fighters to Watch in the Next Ten Years
Sherdog's Thomas Rios posts a list of six fighters that he expects to dominate the next decade. I think two of them have truly excellent prospects:
Jon Jones
Age: 22
Promotion: UFC
Class: Light Heavyweight
Imagine a video game character come to life, and you have a good idea of what it’s like to watch Jones compete inside the cage. Known for a repertoire of incredible throws and sweeps, backed by a striking game that features moves like spinning back elbows, he seems the kind of fighter who could redefine the modern mixed martial artist.
While Jones’ synthesis of technique and talent made him a highlight reel regular long ago, his decision to train with Greg Jackson and Firas Zahabi may be remembered as the move that made him a superstar. With two of the sport’s best trainers by his side, the decade to come could be the one in which Jones makes the transition from exceptional talent to unforgettable fighter.Gegard Mousasi
Age: 24
Promotion: Strikeforce
Class: Light Heavyweight
The beauty of a sport as dynamic as MMA is that charisma is better expressed inside the cage than on the microphone. There can be no better example of this axiom than Mousasi, who, despite having the personality of drying paint, has become a fan favorite thanks to a unique fighting style and a flair for the exotic.
Hitting leg sweeps off one’s back as easily as one uncorks a high kick will secure one plenty of followers, and Mousasi’s ability to keep his opponents perpetually off guard while staying remarkably composed sets him apart from so many of his contemporaries. That trend looks like it will continue in the decade to come, as Mousasi has only now started to find his groove at light heavyweight and has made no secret of his plans to move to the heavyweight class someday.
The others on his list are:
- Ben Askren -- too many question marks, was a poor defensive wrestler even in amateur wrestling competition, no indication of how he'll deal with top level MMA competition, no indication he'll develop a credible striking game. I have high hopes for Askren, but it's far too early to say he'll be a major star, much less a dominant star of the next decade.
- Cain Velasquez and Muhammad "King Mo" Lawal -- both of whom I reject by saying they're already 27 and 28 and at their athletic peaks and yet only beginning their MMA careers. I think we're long past the days of Randy Couture and Mark Coleman when a 30-something year old wrestler could enter MMA, immediately compete at the top of the sport and go on to enjoy a decade-long run at the top. Both Cain and King Mo should achieve big things in MMA, maybe even hold major championship belts but I think their chances to be among the truly major stars of the next ten years are next to nil.The next five years sure, the next ten, no.
- Jose Aldo I have no qualms with, but he'll have to bring his whole division up with him to truly be a major star.
Jones and Mousasi on the other hand have already proven that they have mastered all three phases of the game -- striking at range, clinch fighting and ground fighting. Both are very very young and should continue to improve by leaps and bounds as they mature to their physical peaks at ages 28-32. Both have freakishly long reach, incredible power and flexibility and other physical advantages that you either have or you don't.
Of course, bad luck and bad decisions can derail the career of even the most promising athlete. If Jones or Mousasi are reading this, I'd suggest watching The Smashing Machine about 200 times. In 1999 it seemed certain that Mark Kerr was the true can't miss blue chip and that he would go on to utterly eclipse Randy Couture and Mark Coleman in the 2000s.
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Ufc4’s dream matchup of 2011. Mine too, but not quit at the wet dream level for me.
by John Nash on Dec 29, 2009 3:06 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I disagree about Aldo
I don’t think he’ll have to bring his weight class up with him, I think he’ll simply move to 155. The guy is young, I’d be shocked if he can even make 145 is a couple years time. I also think he’ll be scary good at 155.
Or the UFC could bring his whole division over...
Please?
by Razreshat on Dec 29, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
One of the young guys with the biggest upside? -- Struve!
Once he improves on his striking and grows more into his frame, that will be one veryyyy dangerous dude..
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He has an extremely wide wingspan and as we have seen he also has a good vertical leap, so he would be a great fit for the Blazers
Seriously though if he works on improving his striking he might be one of the best HW in a couple of years
by IRodC on Dec 29, 2009 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what about his upside though?
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by greco-roman airlines on Dec 29, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Struve showed nothing impressive vs buentello, that was his opportunity to shine
by kanodogg on Dec 29, 2009 4:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Struve needs to put on some weight and stop doing flying knees.
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He’s 21, and I believe that it takes longer for tall lanky guys like him to pick up the nuances of the striking game. Schilt was getting crushed left and right when he was 24.
Being 3-1 in the UFC at 21 is a pretty damn good signal of talent.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Cro Cop fight turned people off a little bit
I think most were expecting a spectacular ko and it didnt happen. Plus the ending was just strange with Cro Cop quitting and then Dos Santos celebrating with the referee just standing there expecting the fight to continue.
Depending on what he can do Yvel will go a long way in getting him back in people eye’s as another great fighter.
i think yvel might be a tough challenge
dos santos is an awesome striker but yvel has very good standup. neither want to grapple, so it could be an upset. plus i need cro coppian revenge
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Dos Santos is a brown belt under Nogueira, so I would think he has an advantage over Yvel on the ground just because he doesn’t use it during fight does not mean it is nonexistent
JDS would definitely be on my list. I would also add Tyron Woodley and Karl Amoussou. And to the King Mo-Cain 5-year club I’d throw in Jacare.
by John Nash on Dec 29, 2009 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
if Jacare can atleast have decent standup (he did look good against Lindland, but its Lindland) , he will be the champ in near future.
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I was impressed.
He needs a step up in competition though. Lindland isn’t what he used to be.
by HappyLittleTreez on Dec 29, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions
Mousasi
after the M1/SF contract, should go to the UFC right away. He already has 30 fights under his belt and thats alot of fights specially for a 24 year old. He should be gunning for the top dogs now, he is more than ready.
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As long as he is tied up with Apy and M-1, no dice
I don’t see them easily letting go of anybody.
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Im torn
As a Mousasi fan, I actually support him in his experiments w/ kickboxing and boxing. I like to see how MMArtists perform in each art.
As a MMA fan, I would like to see some great MMA matchups for him. Evans/Nogueira/Shogun/Machida/Jones would be awesome.
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“Ben Askren — too many question marks, was a poor defensive wrestler even in amateur wrestling competition.”
Compared to what? Askren is still way, way beyond all but a few current MMA guys as far as wrestling goes, defensive or offensive. This is just a classic ignorant MMA-lover statement. Obviously there are question marks about Askren (the striking), but his wrestling can’t be one of them.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
Does Tomas Rios have a history of Strikeforce bias? King Mo is easily the worst selection on there, and the fact that he picked the same number of Strikeforce guys as UFC guys (when the UFC has probably 3 or 4 times as many fighters) seems a little ridiculous to me.
King Mo is easily the worst selection on there,
agree. Wins over Travis Weuff and an uncomfortably overweight Mike Whitehead are not impressive to me. his character has mad potential, but guys like Jon Jones would own him.
completely disagree on your opinon of aldo
hes already a top 10 p4p fighter in the world and arguably top 5 and has dominated everyone hes faced with his scary scary good skills
the other fighters are all very good but aldo is in a class of his own not only is he the youngest on the list hes also the only one ranked number 1 in their weight class
How does any of that contradict what Kid Nate wrote? The problem for Aldo isn’t his skills, its that he’s in the WEC.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
but how does that not make him one of the top fighters to watch in the next 10 years? no other fighter before in mma has looked so impressive at such a young age then jose aldo has
Rios’ piece was about guys he expects to become “the faces of the sport”.
You don’t become a face of the sport if nobody sees you. Right now the WEC doesn’t provide a large enough stage for Aldo. I think that will change (either WEC will get bigger or 145 and 135 will be integrated into the UFC) but it is a stumbling block to Aldo becoming one of the “faces of the sport”.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 6:19 PM EST up reply actions
Jose Aldo I have no qualms with, but he’ll have to bring his whole division up with him to truly be a major star.
He has no problem saying he is a great fighter. But to be a MAJOR STAR will be hard in the division he fights in.
…so…yeah
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 29, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions
Just wait until he goes up and shitkicks BJ.
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by Ubernoober on Dec 29, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It was messy. He said two things, basically.
1. Aldo needs to…
2. Jones and Gegard have mastered all three aspects of the game.
What was the issue then?
by ununkvadrium on Dec 29, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Nate! I understand what he did there, but it looked confusing for about a second because he followed the Aldo comment with a segment on how Jones and Gegard are different because they’ve mastered all aspects of the game.
by ununkvadrium on Dec 29, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with everything except....
He’s a year older then Jones.
Quick note: he’s 23 currently
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“I think we’re long past the days of Randy Couture and Mark Coleman when a 30-something year old wrestler could enter MMA, immediately compete at the top of the sport and go on to enjoy a decade-long run at the top.”
Are we? Brock Lesnar immediately comes to mind as a 30-something wrestler and compete at the top right away. Of course, the decade long run has yet to be realized, but if he weren’t sick, I wouldn’t doubt that he would have had an even more impressive career than Couture himself.
by TDITZ on Dec 29, 2009 5:38 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Its also a fairly ludicrous point to make in regards to Velasquez not being able to have a decade-long run. Velasquez is 27, and athletes in many sports excel from 27-37. Secondly, Velasquez already has 3 years of pro experience and is fighting top-10 fighters: he doesn’t have too much further to go to reach the elite. King Mo on the other hand is 28, has only one year of pro experience, and looks in no hurry to fight the elite, so its a more reasonable doubt towards him.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
King Mo on the other hand is 28, has only one year of pro experience, and looks in no hurry to fight the elite,
isnt Mo the same guy everyone hates for wanting to fight Fedor and Mousasi??
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Hey, I wanna fight Fedor too!
See, words are cheap. He needs to actually start fighting quality competition if he wants to be taken seriously.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
but you just said he was in no hurry to fight elite guys? what do you base that on?
i mean who was jones fighting on his 6th fight?
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but you just said he was in no hurry to fight elite guys? what do you base that on?
He fought Mark Kerr and Mike Whitehead his last two fights. Maybe he intends to take a step up, but he isn’t fighting quality opponents now.
i mean who was jones fighting on his 6th fight?
Hardly a fair comparison considering how many fights Jones had in a short period of time. Time spent in the sport is a better indicator. King Mo fought Kerr 11 months after his first pro fight. Jones fought Gusmao 4 months after his first pro fight, and Bonnar 10 months after his first pro fight.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
well kerr, was a warm up fight to test his knee he had ACL replacement surgery on, but trash his victory if you want…
and if want to consider a 1rd KO of Whitehead less impressive then a decision victory over Bonnar… so be it.
but lets stay on topic,
He fought Mark Kerr and Mike Whitehead his last two fights. Maybe he intends to take a step up, but he isn’t fighting quality opponents now.
are you suggesting that Mo should have fought top 10 fighters by his 5th fight? after ACL surgery? and i really cant think of any fighters(with the exception of someone like Brock, who already had a fanbase) who would even be given the opportunity to fight elite guys so early in their career.
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Theres a middle ground between elite fighters, and Mark Kerr and a fat Mike Whitehead.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 30, 2009 5:13 AM EST up reply actions
this might sound dumb, but what about Bobby Lashley?
He’s huge, strong, and a real athlete. I know I know, he’s still doing pro wrestling but not everyone can be like Brock and fight Frank Mir in your second pro fight. He has to eat and that enables him to make money and train properly.
His wins aren’t tremendous, but his record and quality of opponents is no different than King Mo, save maybe Whitehead (despite being a huge 261). He’s got a submission win in his column so clearly he’s learning. He’s only 33 and still has a fresh body. I like his chances in Strikeforce to really grow as a fighter and as a star.
I don’t see him as a fighter likely to have a ten year career, let alone a ten year reign. Also, I’m not sure I agree with your comment that he has a fresh body. He might not have been the recipient of many punches to the noggin, but pro-wrestling has its own brand of crippling effect on bodies. See most former WWE stars.
Being overrated is overrated.
Lashley’s talent level is way below Brock Lesnar. His talent level is more akin to guys like Carwin, Gonzaga, etc. Carwin has already been fighting professionally for four years. Lashley is just too old to get the necessary time to develop and still have a long career.
by Michaelthebox on Dec 29, 2009 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Is everyone sleeping on the 23 year old fighting at UFC 108 Dustin Hazelett?
by TannerMatthews on Dec 30, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions
I like the guy...
but I don’t think he’ll ever be truly dominant.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 30, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions
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He is young and talented, we will probably be seeing more of him in the future considering that.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Somebody missed the last WEC...
Seriously though, he has not shown improvement in any facets of his game. If he gets real serious and fixes the holes in his game at 145 then he might be noteworthy, but never dominant.
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by pdl on Dec 30, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah he got beat down badly but considering he should be fighting @ 145 or even 135 and that he is still a baby, we can expect to be seeing more of him as time goes on.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Don't let the babyface fool you.
The guy has been around, and at this level of advancement for a long time in the MMA game.

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