Quote of the Day: Anderson Silva Believes Nate Marquardt Will Be His Successor
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 28, 2009 9:00 AM EST
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"I think the next champion of this category will be Nate Marquardt. If I’m not over with the belt, I believe Nate will be the next champion 84kg, the next guy to win for a long, long time this way."
"I’ve been following all his fights and he has evolved a lot since the last time we fought. He has evolved a lot, it’s hard, has a good feature for a fighter, evolved a lot during the fight. I believe he is the next champion in that category"
--Anderson Silva, thinks that Nate Marquardt will be the next dominant middleweight champion when he retires or vacates the belt. Do you agree?
HT: tatame.com.br (translated by Udirt)
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My answer?
YES. I’m a firm believer of Nate’s abilities. He might not dominate the division like what Andy did but he WILL be champ.
Skadoosh!
I know I’ll probably be alone on this, but I’m used to it by now. Wandy will be the next MW champ once Andy is gone, you heard it here folks!
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
you're probably
right, I have no doubt that Nate will hold the belt, but I do agree that Wandy will more then likely get it before Nate, and most likely for marketing reasons.
I’m gonna agree on that as well. As long as the weight cut is not a issue wandy will be a monster at 185.
by mr. gogoplata on Dec 28, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
:)
I have some faith in you after the Shogun/Dragon fight, but Wandy reigning MW is a huge stretch.
That said, oh how I hope you’re right
I’m with you! And on that glorious day I will sacrifice many virgins in thanks for such a victory!
by Kwisatz Haderach on Dec 28, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
I have never noticed any weakness in Nate’s chin. Aside from getting iced by Silva, I can’t recall anyone else really hurting him. Leites dropped him with a punch, but Nate wasn’t rubber legged or anything and immediately got his senses back. He walked right through everything that Gouveia and Kampmann threw at him.
Marquardt vs. Gouveia
Please looke at that fight again. Gouveia definitely stunned Marquardt. Nate did not walk through all of his punches.
With that said, I have to agree with mmalogic all the way. His chin is not durable. I would have loved to see Henderson vs. Marquardt or even Franklin vs. Marquardt. Either way I just don’ t see Marquardt defending the title for a long period of time. We haven’t really seen Goran Reljic unleashed on the MW division. I’m sure there will be another LHW who will try his hands in the MW division soon. 2010, we will see something happen. Wanderlei Silva vs. Nate Marquardt?
Happy Holidays and A Happy New Year
by VeeisAnimated on Dec 28, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
It is amazing how much Nate has transformed his game since his pedestrian UFC debut at UFN 1 versus Ivan Salaverry.
You mean the turtle fucking for 15 minutes? Yeah its amazing that was the same guy going jet li on Gouveia to finish the fight.
To be fair
Most of those combo shots didn’t land, it just “looked cool”.
Nearly all the shots landed to some degree.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 28, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
nothing escapes the machiavellian!
by cagefightonacid on Dec 28, 2009 1:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not too sure about this i kinda think the belts gonna jump around alot like its been doin in the lhw division with no dominant champ appearing
also theirs no real promising young prospects who could concievably become dominant kchamps in the middleweight division unlike bones jones and ryan bader in lhw todd duffee and brendan schaub in hw and rumble johnson in ww
Rumble should move to MW anyway. Maybe Anderson retiring is what he’s waiting on.
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People need to get off of his nuts. He has a ton of physical gifts but so far why is he so impressive? He knocked out a Yoshida after coming in ridiculously overweight and everytime he takes a step up in competition he gets crushed.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 28, 2009 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
when nate was 25 he was king of pancrase. and he’s only 30 and he’s perhaps the most well rounded fighter in mma.
by Matthew Roth on Dec 28, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
I’m a Marquardt fan for sure, but that ‘perhaps’ is a bit far-fetched. Well rounded for sure, but I can think of a few fighters more worthy of that.
I mean fighters with wrestling/jitz/boxing/thai…he’s in my opinion the best
by Matthew Roth on Dec 28, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
I think
he was referring to Johnson, not Nate.
I think the next dominant champion will be the Sexy.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Maybe as a WW
I just think he is too small to beat top level MWs.
His sexyness makes up for his weight disadvantage.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Sorry, Bandaka
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joke%20killer
And yes, Sexyama does seem a bit small for the UFC MW division. But there are still huge fighters in the WW division too.
Wanderlei Silva?
It is interesting that Wanderlei Silva is not being mentioned at all.
Happy Holidays and A Happy New Year
I don't think it is that interesting,
Wanderlei has lost 4 or his last 5; the game has passed him on. That said i expect an exciting win against Bisping
Wanderlei's Recent Losses in Perspective . . .
Before you dismiss him because of his losses . . . take a look at them.
- Franklin: decision loss in a highly competitive bout, some say controversial
- Jackson: He murdered Rampage twice. He decided to give the fans a show and paid for it with a serious KO loss. Rampage has dropped 4 of his last 5 opponents with a punch.
- Liddell: Was there really any losers in that match?!?
- Henderson: He said he wasn’t feeling well coming off a flu and decided to fight any way. I’ll give him a pass. After all he did beat Henderson via decision in the past.
- Cro-Cop: Most middleweight-LHW fighters trying to stand with a K-1 level heavyweight striker like Cro-Cop might get KTFO’ed.
NOW, if Wanderlei loses to Bisping, then yeah, the game has passed him on.
Happy Holidays and A Happy New Year
by VeeisAnimated on Dec 28, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions
damn it, you beat me to it
just so I don’t think I wasted my time I’ll post my excuses as well (I wrote it before seing yours) :
Note: I acknowledge that I am very biased towards Wandy, but I still have faith in the mad dog:
Loss to Rich – I agree he lost to Rich, but he gave a hell of a fight, and that was his first time fighting outside of 205 (first time having to cut that much). Hopefully he got used to it by now and will be a force at MW. The good thing that came out of this fight is that Wandy didn’t get KO’d by top competition.
Loss to Page – he got KO’d early, a well placed punch by a great mma boxer in Quinton. If they fight again, I expect Wandy to give a much more competitive fight if not a win.
Win against Keith – not that big of a deal, really.
Loss to Chuck – This was Chuck’s last big win, and it was big because it was against Wandy. I still count Chuck as a top 10 fighter.
Loss to Henderson – he had the Flu for a week towards the event, had to go to the hospital as a result (this is a documented event), he didn’t even show up for his open workout because of the Flu.
Loss to Mirko – Ko’d by one of the greatest stand up fighter in the history of MMA. Not only was Mirko a HW and wandy a LHW (or MW in pride), this Mirko is not the Mirko of the UFC, he is the Mirko of Pride. The one who won the GP and went three close rounds with Fedor.
WAR WANDY!!!
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
You've been emboldened too much by Shougun's performance
Is it impossible that Wandy could have a renaissance at 185, of course not, but he’s going to have to show two things before I’m putting any money down.
1. That he can make the cut to 185
2. That he is still capable of a great performance and that the wear and tear hasn’t taken its toll.
Wanderlei...
also had surgery for a deviated septum.
which means...
the gas tank shouldn’t be a issue anymore
by mr. gogoplata on Dec 30, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Nate is definitely the guy to follow Silva. What a monster he has become in the octagon. Can’t wait to see him demolish Chael Sonnen!
by ultimatefightsource on Dec 28, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions
The last thing Vitor's opponents usually remember
is thinking for a split second that they were strikers.
I think waking up like this is how a fight goes for anybody but Anderson or Hendo at 185.
Nate will probably be next champion I guess. However, he doesn’t have the amazing skillset of Silva (When Silva’s trying obviously) and but he’s as marketable as Silva, if not worse. I.E. Doubtful he’s a huge PPV draw. And Silva has 10x the personality of Nate. I think UFC knows this. Why else would they give Nate the runaround for so long and a fight with Chael Sonnen?
I think Vitor Belfort and Rich Franklin would probs beat Nate...
He is a v. good tho, shame we didn’t see him against Hendo. Would have been a great fight and a good test for him. Anyway my opinion is Belfort will be next champ (after he loses to Silva of course and works his way back up).
Nate will be the next champ.
But not while Anderson is still holding the belt. Once Anderson fully moves up to LHW, Nate will become champ. Will he dominate? yeah, maybe, but he’ll always have that thing hanging over his head: he’s a great champ, but he could never beat Anderson. At least that’s how I see it. I don’t even see Vitor beating Anderson.
I love me some Sexyama!
Alan Belcher or Goran Relijic
Both of these fighters are young enough and talented enough to be really scary in the future. They are my picks to be big things in the MW division. Nate is like Florian, a great fighter who was born at the wrong time.
Silva has some reason...
But as Maia or Wanderlei can beat Nate.
"Once Flamengo, Flamengo until die"
So a one punch KO
Means a fighter is infinitely better than his opponent? It doesn’t matter that we never saw Maia work his BJJ against Nate. We just have to assume that Nate’s BJJ is better than Maia’s too by your logic.
I guess Paulo Thiago got that uppercut KO against Kos, he should be next in line for GSP. Because it was a KO.
Infinitely? No, but it showed that Maia’s one-dimensional game and obvious striking aren’t enough, while Nate, who has worked on his striking to compliment his already-advanced grappling, is a superior fighter right now.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 28, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions
Settle down Son.
No-one said anything about infinately better, or whatever else you are trying to extrapolate from Anton’s comment. (Kos is not next in line for GSP either…)
2 men fought, 1 got KTFO in quick time. For now, enough said, especially since it was their last fight.
Saying so and so can beat someone is easy to do in MMA…
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Dec 29, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
The way I think about it
If a fight happened 100 times there would be some distribution of victories. The results of these 100 trials would give us the “True” value of the fight, i.e. what the bookmakers should use.
Just because Serra knocks GSP our doesn’t mean that Serra would win that same fight most of the time.
That said the results of a one off fight matter a lot for informing us about what the “true” odds were. In the Maia Marquart fight we saw. 1. Maia striking sucks and. 2. Marquart has the power and technique to expose it.
I think Maia could still win, and I think Maia could improve, but Marquart has to be heavily favored in a rematch based on what we saw.
Im a Maia fan
and that KO makes me sad everytime. Why does Maia have to use that stupid kick?
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
Ok Anderson if you feel that marquardt has improved so much since the last time you fought him, why Sony you fight him now
by kanodogg on Dec 28, 2009 2:15 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Why don’t you fight him now… Typo
by kanodogg on Dec 28, 2009 2:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I almost thought anderson was selling a fight...
Actually talk about how your opponent is good.
then I say give him a title shot..
if that happens, he beats what most people considered the number 2 MW at that time, in Okami, and the current number 2 MW in Marquardt…
I say anyone who does that feat should get a title shot.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 28, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
Also, we get to see Sonnen get pounded by Silva.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 28, 2009 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I've had Nate at #2 MW world wide for over a year or more.
Nate has been Anderson’s successor for years. People just keep giving Hendo credit for past greatness, and ppl put Franklin above Nate because most seem to think Frank beat Nate but they never fought! Just ask some people in the know if they remember Franklin beating Nate and you’ll get some delayed, surprised responses.
You heard it here first
Sonnen beats Nate, Split Decision. Thus throwing a huge monkey wrench in Dana’s plans for “Nate the great”.
by Pain on Dec 28, 2009 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Jacare
is the darkhorse of the division.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
by vivero on Dec 28, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I was impressed by him too
Almost on the same level as Maia on the groud, but his stand up looked alot less sloppy (for the purposes of not getting knocked out while trying to get the fight to the ground)
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Dec 29, 2009 6:20 AM EST up reply actions
we’re talking about the UFC MW belt though, I don’t see Jacaré going to the UFC anytime soon.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
after his SF contract, i see him signing with UFC. They love those Black House people.
I am. I think. I will. - Ayn Rand
he’s not black house though, he just trained there for his last fight and helped Anderson out for the Leites fight. Maybe could make a pernament move though? that would be good for him
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Poor Jacare
hes marketed in all the wrong ways. With 0 marketing experience for people i believe i could market him to point at least where people knew him more and bought T-Shirts of him and had posters and stuff. BTW Well Read Idiot, the only difference between Jacare and Maia is that Jacare is so dang strong. Look up Jacare vs Werdum and see how he takes down a man that has a considerable amount of weight on him.
You heard it here first
Sonnen beats Nate, Split Decision. Thus throwing a huge monkey wrench in Dana’s plans for “Nate the great”.
by Pain on Dec 29, 2009 3:04 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Nate is the next MW champion and he’s imo the one guy that can take down Anderson Silva from his MW perch. The guy has improved time in and time out and basically been a wrecking ball smashing everyone in his way since his loss to Anderson. If it wasn’t for Herb Dean’s stupidity ,he’d already have gotten his shot but once Nate beats down Sonnen. Anderson vs. Nate 2 will probably be the fight I look forward to next, Nate reminds me of GSP after his loss to Hughes he’s more focused, better prepared and ready to be the best at his weight.
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