Manny Pacquiao plans to file a defamation lawsuit against Floyd Mayweather Jr in a few days over insinuations that Pacquiao is a dope cheat:
"I have instructed my promoter, Bob Arum, to help me out in the filing of the case as soon as possible because I have had people coming over to me now asking if I really take performance-enhancing drugs and I have cheated my way into becoming the No1 boxer in the world," Pacquiao said.
..."To Floyd, despite all these accusations, may your Christmas be merry and I will see you in court, soon, too."
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"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
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by pdl on Dec 25, 2009 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
haha
“brick threw a trident at someone”
brick- “yeah, i killed a guy”
yeah brick, i was gonna tell you, you may wanna lay low for a while
by Austin Martin on Dec 25, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Way to do nothing to disprove the rumors that you are a doper, though. Take the test and all the rumors go away.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
i hate that line of thought. he has a legitimate fear of needles. he’s never ever ever tested positive for a banned substance. he has no connection to ped’s. why should he have to play into it? IMO, this is another case of mayweather looking to pad his own record and not face up to the reaper. Mayweather is ducking because he doesnt want to lose.
by Austin Martin on Dec 25, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
Legitimate fear of needles, huh? Good thing he doesn’t have tattoos or anything .. right?
And if Mayweather was ducking, then why did he sign the bout agreement first and agree to the most outrageous claim of them all – $10 million per pound over? Oh, yeah, because he’s afraid. Manny is the coward here, not Floyd. In the biggest fight in boxing history, when one fighter asks for $10 million per pound over the limit, what’s the hold up if the other asks for a blood test that he’ll also be subjected to? They’re both going to be subjected to the same testing, the same routine, and the same standards. Why is that something bad? How is this Floyd’s fault? If I’m going to fight for that big of a payday, I want to know if the guy I’m fighting is fighting fair or if he’s fighting outside the rules. And if that guy doesn’t want to take the test, then he’s showing the entire world how much of a cheater he truly is.
If the situation was reversed, Floyd would be slandered beyond belief. You best believe it. Double standards are awesome.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
mayweather= douchenozzle
manny= lovable asian guy
i agree with you, its certainly a double standard. However, manny seems to always want to challenge himself, and mayweather seems content to beat up on people below his weight class by jabbing his way to a decision.
Plus, as a lot of people will say, tattoos seem to be a different beast than drawing blood. I hate getting blood drawn, but have no prob with tattooing needles. mental i guess
by Austin Martin on Dec 25, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
How has Manny challenged himself? He beat over-the-hill and broken fighters. Big deal.
I understand the difference between getting tattoos and getting blood drawn but everyone I’ve talked to who have tattoos have all said it’s not a big deal. Are they the foremost authority on it? No. But their outlooks are to be taken under consideration.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
Cotto and Hatton we’re really over-the-hill broken fighters huh?..
by filipinomix2oo0 on Dec 25, 2009 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I really like Pacquiao, and really wanted to see him win, but this post is dead on. Furthermore you’re telling me a guy who gets punched in the face for a living is completely terrified of a needle? I can tell you which one hurts a lot more 20 minutes later.
Anyway I’m really just hoping this is a bunch of pro-wrestling style hoopla orchestrated by the promoters. In which case, props to them.
Nevermind, fight appears dead. I want to say “fuck Bob Arum,” but really it’s Pacquiao who seems to have screwed this up.
http://boxing.fanhouse.com/2009/12/25/mayweather-pacquiao-off-pacquaio-malignaggi-pending/
He’s not afraid of needles he just doesnt want blood taken from him the day of and day before the fight he said hes ok with taking blood anytime before the fight and as many times as they want. he just doesnt want it taken the day of/before the fight!!!
watch the video
my mistake, in that case. i read something about his discomfort with needles somewhere. I guess that makes sense thought about getting blood drawn before a fight, thats certainly got to affect something. I don’t know, i just want this fight to happen, and i think mayweather is dodging him.
by Austin Martin on Dec 25, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn’t affect anything. They take the equivalent of one tablespoon. Your body replenishes that in a few hours. Even if they did it the day of the fight, his performance would not be affected. Mayweather would also be undergoing the same procedure. It’s not as if Manny would have an unequal playing field here. It’d be level. Do the test(s). For $25-$50 million, they can poke me with needles every day for a month if they wanted.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
You have any tattoos?
I said in another post about this about how I’ll choose a confrontation with a murderous knife wielding PCP addict over a doctor who wants to draw blood from me. I have a really irrational fear of needles, more than being mugged, car accidents, or anything that I should logically fear. Now, to the point: Getting a tattoo is totally different than getting blood drawn. Feels different, looks different, sounds different, atmosphere is different… it’s really not comparable.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Personally, I do not have a tattoo. Don’t mind blood getting drawn, though.
I have a friend with over 20 tattoos and he’s more comfortable getting blood drawn than getting tattoos, yet he gets them.
People are different, but Manny really needs to get over this in order to cash in. It’s pety.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
I'm just stating the comparison you made is not necessarily relevant.
I empathize greatly with Manny for having an irrational fear/phobia of needles. When I get blood drawn, I tense up so much that the needle gets stuck in my arm until I relax, and then releasing my tension sprays blood all over the nursing staff. It’s a problem for me.
When I got my tattoo I was really nervous going in but the every bit of it is different. The needle doesn’t look like a syringe, which is a huge mental bump. The environment isn’t coldly sterile and dehumanized like a clinic is. The pain is trackable and easier to anticipate, not to mention it doesn’t hurt nearly as much. You can have a steady, casual conversation with the people around you instead of it being a nurse coming in, getting the job done, and leaving.
I understand your friend prefers getting blood drawn, and I’m sure plenty of people do. I am the exact opposite, and believe that Manny may be too.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
How is this Floyd’s fault?
Because he is the one asking for something beyond the standard tests. that he knows will affect Manny. It is psychological warfare plain and simple.
Guillotine.
So .. Manny asking for $10 million per pound is not beyond the standard? Yeah, whatever.
Asking $10 million per pound is more outrageous than asking for strict blood tests.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
Mayweather is known to come in over weight, it is well documented and publicised.
Manny has no history of failing drug tests, dodging drug tests, or having suspicious tests (Randleman had non-human urine? Monster indeed). Those situations are not comparable.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
by pdl on Dec 25, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Considering the Mayweather-Marquez contract was listed as Welterweight, Mayweather (technically) didn’t come in overweight but paid Marquez to compensate for the difference. Funny part is that no one did the same for Mayweather when De La Hoya came in with the same difference in weight for their fight. Funny how that works out, huh? And Mayweather did it one time. I guess one time is a track record now. Asking $10 million per pound is ridiculous and outrageous. Asking someone to get a blood test at random intervals for a fight that is going to net each guy $25-$50 million is not that insane. It’s asking for a fair level of play. If Pacquiao can ask for $10 million per pound that Floyd is over the limit, then Floyd can ask for random blood tests.
For all I give a shit, Manny can go pound sand. He’s not the one that people are paying to see. This fight doesn’t happen without Mayweather. Manny needs Floyd more than vice versa. People can say it’s not true, but the numbers don’t lie. People pay to see Floyd. Less people pay to see Manny. Manny needs to go through with the tests. The more he delays, and the more he lawyers up, the more he looks like a user. And the more he lacks credibility. His legacy and image is tarnished in my eyes. Unless he submits to the testing, he should be held out of the discussion as the greatest fighter right now.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
If I recall correctly, Pacman's last fight outsold Money May's.
Correct me if I’m wrong. I believe the numbers were very comparable though.
Pacman has followed every guideline for PED testing in the US. You know who says he needs to test? Mayweather and his camp. You know who says he uses. Mayweather and his camp. It’s silly.
And pounds over weight to gain an advantage is something Mayweather did blatantly and flagrantly against another smaller opponent. I say that to make this fair, Manny should do the testing if and only if Mayweather can pass a credit check within 30 days of the fight. That’s more applicable.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0IH5XZzAqs
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boiLd1gM_0g
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIGiZtYeMBU
I believe Part 3 shows the numbers. It’s quite scary how much more marketable Floyd is.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
Funny how the only way to win a debate with Floyd is to have people gang up on him.
I swore I heard one of the yell out “loud noises!” during the middle of it. By the way … “wow!”
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Dec 25, 2009 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
A credit check eh? do I detect racism?
by CliChe Guevara on Dec 25, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions
Look at his name.
I’m hoping for my faith in the intelligence of the board that his comment was meant to be a cliche (jump to the race card) and sarcastic. If that’s not the case, he’s not worth arguing with. Floyd’s financial issues are pretty common knowledge, anyone here should know better than to accuse a poster of racism for that joke.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
Unless Mayweather quits ducking
worthy opponents, he should also be held out of the discussion as the greatest fighter as well. I mean he danced around with an over the hill De la Hoya for 12 rounds and he fights guys smaller than him…. I know you have a hard on for Mayweather, but understand that he has a reputation for ducking opponents for a reason….
Its sad all he cares about is Money
and not the sport…. he’s not concerned about his legacy of the sport but a paycheck….
exactly my thoughts, buy not taking the test it looks BAD, come on every one knows how dam easy it is to beat a piss test now a blood test on the other hand there is nothing you can do to hide that !
Blood tests are best. They can detect HGH and other byproducts. Too bad. I actually thought Manny might man up. Guess not.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
jesus
I'm not calling him dad, even if theres a fire
by II SMASH II on Dec 25, 2009 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
jesus
Think of lesnar ever did this…
I think the internet might explode with overloads of the words “I KNEW IT!” And “FUCK ALL YOU LESNAR NUT HUGGERS! LOOK WHO WAS RIGHT!” I don’t even want to think about it.
I'm not calling him dad, even if theres a fire
by II SMASH II on Dec 25, 2009 5:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And uh yea then enter button on my blackberry is easily accidentally hit, hence the first jesus
I'm not calling him dad, even if theres a fire
by II SMASH II on Dec 25, 2009 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So close
and yet so far.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
I don’t know why anyone feels the desire to choose sides. How bout, they’re both wrong, they’re both nozzles, fuck em both, and can’t wait for UFC 111 2 weeks later.
by argyle on Dec 25, 2009 4:06 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
This is kind of stupid.
Obviously he has no fear of needles if he is willing to do the test after the fight as well as a month before, so why does he need that magical month?
Quite suspicious.
Funny how that works out, huh? It’s more like he has a selective fear of needles.
Good luck winning a defamation lawsuit against Golden Boy. Schaefer will rape them in open court.
Twitter: @FlyByKnite
ONCE AGAIN
It’s not the fear of needles but the timing of the blood tests. Its clear you guys don’t fight nor compete in any combat sports. If i get my blood drawn a day before my match, I feel weaker. Call it psychological, but it happens, Why have Olympic style testing when this hasn’t been done before? Posturing or looking for a reason to duck a fight? I say if Mayweather wants Olympic Style testing, then Manny should request a credit check and criminal background for Mayweather’s camp….
AND ONCE AGAIN
You don’t get it.
If he gets “weaker”, then Mayweather would get “weaker” since they’ll both be taken that test. Hence, it will still be an EVEN PLAYING FIELD. What’s the problem?
I mean….if Manny never uses any junk like he says, than it shouldn’t be an issue. The fact that he’s crying foul over this paints a much darker picture and perhaps showing us that there’s more to this than meets the eye….
Oh and as far as your saying that “Manny should request a credit check and criminal background for Mayweather’s camp”? Tell me something : Just how the hell does this affect Mayweather the Fighter either Positively or Negatively for the Fight? Answer : It doesn’t. Using PED’s, though…DOES. And Pacman’s refusal speaks volumes.
Oh, I’m sorry, I didnt think that Manny was ever tested POSITIVE for peds, so now he must be guilty. This is not standard practice for Olympic Style testing and has never been used in a fight that Mayweather or Manny has ever been in, so why now? He’s willing to take the test 30 days out and immediately after the fight, so now where is the problem with that?
Well, what if Mayweather brings a knife into the ring? That might affect the fight. Even though we have NO EVIDENCE that Mayweather has ever done it or ever will, but still. have him do a criminal check and get it over with.
Doing a criminal background check will accomplish what exactly?
Let’s say that Mayweather had prior records of assault and battery, and served time in jail….Will this give him an ADVANTAGE in his fights? No.
PED’s will. Yes, Pacman has never failed a drug test. So if that’s the case, he has nothing to worry about, right? He can just take the Olympic-Style test, show everyone he’s clean, then go and Beat Floyd’s Overrated ass and maybe stick that needle there when he’s done with him….
The issue right now isn’t whether Pacman did or didn’t do PEDs…The issue is MAKING THE PUBLIC THINK he is innocent whereas right now they think he’s Guilty. Something has to be done now….Floyd, as much as a Jackass that he is, has opened a real gi-normous can of worms here with this. Maybe it was calculated as just something to get under Pacman’s skin? Who knows? The fact remains that Pacman’s image is taking a beating right now and he has to do something about it….
This doesn't hold water with me.
I’ve donated two pints of blood before and gone back to sweltering farmwork the next day. I’ve also been in four amateur bouts. If they draw, what, the same amount they take from me when I get my cholesterol checked, that should have no discernable effect on Manny’s physical performance. His mental performance is a whole different matter
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 26, 2009 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Bottome Line :
Manny is putting himself in a very bad light right now in the eyes of many fans who are thinking “why is he refusing to have these random drug-tests?”. Doubt is now spreading as far as his so-called legacy goes.
Now he MUST go through with the tests that Floyd demands, if they ever fight, that is….Otherwise, there’s always going to be that lingering doubt in people’s minds on whether we’re watching Pacman in action or HGH-Man in disguise.
His now upcoming fight with some no-name will open all sorts of criticism from many boxing fans and the boxing world. I bet many will wonder if he got tested right before the fight he has, that he will test positive….
Why should he give into Floyd's demands?
There’s a lingering suspicison that Mayweather chooses opponents smaller than him and then ducks better fighter…..this is just another way for him to duck out another way to pad his record. Why not just have standard testing? Better yet, why not agree to have his blood tested 30 days out and immediately after the fight then?
There are various negotiations that go into setting up a big boxing match, this apparently is one of them?
Why should Manny give in? I’m not sure if he should, but this is a perfect public demand made by Floyd. If they couldn’t agree on a weight or the ring size or the purse, it would get written off as one of the reasons various top boxing fights never happened or happened too late, but the fact the headline is going to be that the fight was canceled because Manny wouldn’t take a drug test. it doesn’t matter if there’s already testing in place and that this is more strict, there is steroid paranoia in the sports world, and if someone asks to do stronger testing and someone else refuses, the person who refuses is going to come out looking worse than the other one.
This is why MMA is better than boxing
at least in the UFC and Strikeforce…everything is pretty standard. Fighters don’t get to make demands. Either fight or pound sand
Even if Mayweather does choose opponents smaller than him and ducks better fighters, the bottom line is that he is not the one now under the microscope as the guy who refuses to take a drug test.
Steroid Paranoia is sweeping the nation. It started in the MLB and it has spread like a virus.
Perhaps Pacman won’t really care what the public thinks but his legacy as the best P4P fighter ever won’t ever be solidified ’cause of this…..
Who put him under a microscope?
Oh yeah, all the roid talk originated from Mayweather’s camp and continues to echo through media from them. Awesome.
BJ Penn said GSP juices. So did some trainers of his. His mom will most likely go to the NSAC to work on the case. Bam, the allegations are just as valid.
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They’re just as valid, but they’re not as important because less people heard them.
This is a much bigger story, if the fight doesn’t happen, the story will be that it didn’t happen because Manny wouldn’t take a steroid test, it doesn’t matter that he’s willing to take blood tests a month before and after the fight, it doesn’t matter that he’s willing to get urine tested every day, the story is going to be “fight canceled because Manny won’t take a drug test.”
BJ saying what he did about GSP is not a story, this is, and that’s why it’s bad for manny.
It's a much bigger spectacle, sure.
That we can all agree on. I’m speaking only to the validity, or lack thereof, of the accusations.
"Someone is WRONG on the internet. What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!"
-Randall Munroe
This is hilarious!
I can’t believe they are going this route. They really want us to believe that Manny is this fly -off-the-handle kind of sue your ass guy? They are over reaching on this angle to hype the fight. It’s just gonna be kinda weird.
Funny how someone doesn’t even have to take the test, let alone fail it, to become a PED user.
Logic is a zany thing.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Dec 26, 2009 10:21 AM EST reply actions
Exactly. We have people here telling him to take the test to clear his name. Why should he have to? His name is only being dragged through the mud because of Mayweather’s crew. The set up was so easy that it’s kind of scary.
1. Slander another fighter.
2. Act like the slander is now common knowledge and that you’re worried about your safety.
3. Make ridiculous demands that put the slandered party on the defensive.
4. Watch as people on the internet pick up the ball and run with it for you.
It's just like
a guy accused of rape, once that happens you’re screwed forever.
Just because someone says something or makes an off the wall demand of someone, does NOT mean that person must bow to the other’s wishes. I think it’s great that Manny is saying a big FU. We live in a crazy world where any allegation of a criminal matter is a huge burden to deal with, whether the person is innocent or not. I don’t understand the mentality of “well if he has nothing to hide then take the test.” That’s not the point, conform to the normal testing patterns and then all will be fine.
At least he’s not like Nick Diaz and magically training in the mountains when he’s supposed to be taking his test, or Karo claiming ignorance, or someone else that I won’t name stating that someone must have slipped him something.
"Maybe Mur is going through menopause and is retaining water"---Ubernoober
you are a child rapist
Now if you have nothing to hide you should have no problem taking a DNA test so we can run checks against samples we have on record. And also have a photo of your penis taken so we can compare it with descriptions from victims.
Now if you have a problem with us taken a sample of your blood and a photo of your penis, well then, you obviously have something to hide.
I hate to burst your bubble but this ain’t the first time my pecker’s be photographed.
SHWING!
But seriously, you guys are absolutely right. PacMan’s done nothing to warrant these allegations. He shouldn’t have to pander to shit.
by Tap or Snap Radio on Dec 26, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
be=been
I hate when I fucked up my own jokes… =(
by Tap or Snap Radio on Dec 26, 2009 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
What's the point of filing suit...
…against somebody you’re LEGALLY ALLOWED TO PUNCH IN THE FACE?
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