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The Frustrating Evolution of Chris Horodecki

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A little over two years ago, Chris Horodecki was one of the most promising young lightweight mixed martial arts fighters in the world. He had carved out a spot for himself as an elite fighter in the International Fight League producing an eleven-fight undefeated streak that began right after his 18th birthday and continued through to his 20th birthday. His "babyface" looks and solid striking skills gave off the perception that Horodecki was a contradiction to what fighters were supposed to look like, but like many fighters before him -- Horodecki broke through those perceptions and produced winning performances.

Unfortunately for Chris Horodecki, he has never been able to win me over as a fan. While my significant other believes it's because his bout with the IFL's Ryan Schultz resembled a "domestic child abuse dispute" due to Horodecki's youthful appearance and the two-minute defenseless beatdown that Schultz gave him at the IFL Grand Prix Finals in December of 2007, I'd go against the grain of her casual fan status and point at his questionable decision to remain at lightweight and attack with relatively the same telegraphed offensive tactics as the source of his problems.

Sure, I'm no expert on weight cutting nor do I embody Chris Horodecki and know how his body responds to weight cutting, but sitting at 5'8" without the body type that a fellow lightweight fighter like Ben Henderson (5'8") shows makes me believe there is a cut to 145 or even 135 in his future.

Horodecki has never been an explosive puncher either. While he has the ability to land damaging strikes and catch opponents off guard with his kicks, nearly every exchange is telegraphed over and over again over the length of a fight. There is some variance in his strikes, but opponents can almost always rely on a flurry being followed by a kick. It becomes a rather futile effort when your opponent is a better kickboxer, taller, and has a lengthy reach advantage.

Let's forget about the rookie mistake that Horodecki made on Saturday night and look at the action before the head kick that left us scratching our heads. This was Njokuani's fight to lose unless Horodecki came out with a better offensive gameplan than his own standard kickboxing combinations. I held out some hope that two years of training might make this a battle, but my bettor's wallet laid the house on Njokuani for a reason. Horodecki hasn't evolved.

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What's the solution? Stylistically, we must see some sort of progression in Horodecki's striking game. The same one-two combinations followed by head kicks that landed unchecked in the IFL aren't going to be your bread and butter in a promotion like the WEC with fighters constantly making their way into the promotion. They have historically worked in gaining Horodecki decision victories against low to mid-level competition, but they don't exactly inspire confidence in anyone as a finishing technique.

Secondly, Horodecki must drop in weight and become a bit more dedicated to gaining some power. He has the ability to land strikes, but he doesn't have the overall power to put opponents away. If he could actually cut down to bantamweight, he'd be one of the bigger fighters in the division as opposed to being one of the smaller in the lightweight division. That might be a little wishful, but I think his body could do it as it looked a little puffy against Njokuani.

Njokuani is one of the future contenders in the lightweight division, so it may be a bit unfair to assess Horodecki in only his first fight in the WEC. But I didn't expect to see the same tired combinations and same overall style to his game in this fight, a fight that is over two years after we watched the same style fights in the IFL. Fighters can't walk through divisions of talent using the same style, and hopefully Horodecki will go back to the drawing board and become a bit more dynamic in what he can do. If not, I'm sure the MFC will be ready for him.

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Nor do I think any fighter should? These are simply my observations.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

my initial post was based on the "unfortunate for him " line. To me that was an unecessary comment. No fighter is going to have every fighter be a fan of theirs, no shame in that.

I actually agree with your observations, you are pretty spot on. His last fight proved to me that he should fight at a smaller weight, which is probably part of thereason he joined the wec where if he flames out at 155 he has the benefit of dropping a weightclass without having to find a new promotion to work for.

by Buddha Brown on Dec 21, 2009 1:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I wasn’t saying it with what you’re implying. I’m a fan of many fighters, and I think my “fan” ship brings a lot to the table. Look at Melvin Manhoef. He is more awesome because of me.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yup, exactly!

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at Melvin Manhoef. He is more awesome because of me

The truth, right there folks.

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by pud333 on Dec 21, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

Rec’d

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t get your panties in a knot, Buddha. Leland is just giving his opinion on Horodecki, which is what his job is on this website.

by ricker2005 on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t wear panties and his job is to post his opinion (which I happen to agree with) but I as a commenter also have the right to post my opinion, and to me the one line that I highlighted really took away from the rest of the post. Maybe it was just a bad choice of words but to me any fighter, fighting in one of these top promotions are very fortunate, and I’m sure it’s no sweat off their back if they can’t please every fan. My initial post was sarcastic in nature, and I was more or less poking fun at the author.

by Buddha Brown on Dec 21, 2009 1:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

for real buddha its not that serious…..Leland makes some valid points outside of “how horodecki can gain a new fan”..

by longevity on Dec 21, 2009 2:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I don’t think it’s serious at all, in fact I already said I agree with the article, and I just thought the one line was uneccessary so I made a sarcastic comment about it. My comment wasn’t meant to be malicious, and if I come accross as being a troll that was not my intention either. In fact I usually agree with a lot of what Leland says and I thoroughly enjoy his fight previews. Doesn’t mean I can’t disagree with him on his choice of words. I honestly didn’t think the comment was that big of a deal just something I wanted to comment on.

by Buddha Brown on Dec 21, 2009 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

my bad bb…didn’t refresh quick enough…didn’t see your second post…kinda new to commenting

by longevity on Dec 21, 2009 8:30 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Why are people rec'ing this?

The race car bed comment, no doubt.

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by Blackout612 on Dec 21, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are right on with your observations, Leland.

I think a large part is who is main trainer is. He is Tompkins’ protege so to speak and Horodecki is doing things Tompkins can’t/couldn’t. But IMO Horodecki hasn’t evolved because he isn’t getting taught anything new.

I think a weight cut would serve him well. Even at 145 I think he would match up better than he would at 155. If you are going to be the smaller fighter without power you better be very well rounded and have a diverse game plan.

by swells2048 on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

Honestly, I think his style mimics Sam Stout to an extent as well, who he trains with. He seems to be stuck in what you mention… being taught nothing new. I mean, I suppose it’s a tad over analytical due to the fact we weren’t going to see any new ground techniques against Njokuani, but his striking was EXACTLY the same. I mean, I was a bit surprised to be honest.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree

145 is where he belongs (and where he will probably find himself). He just doesn’t have the power to go with his solid technique. He also needs to work his wrestling. He had a few deep double legs that he just couldn’t finish, and he needed to put Njokuani on his back. He’s still young though, and I think he’s got a huge upside.. at 145lbs.

by mictlantechutli on Dec 21, 2009 1:22 PM EST reply actions  

Your right

He does need to cut down but in his interview with Greg and Jeff on Sherdog he talked about the desire to go to the UFC’s 155 division. I am a expert on weight cutting (not really) but as soon as he walked out to the center of the ring, I said “He has to go to 145.” I understand he can’t get the big paydays yet in the WEC but for his career, he needs to go down in weight. Forget the UFC and grow in the WEC.

by blackzag05 on Dec 21, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions  

Truthfully Bellator would a better fit for him.

He wasn’t ready for Njokuani on saturday. Imagine if he’d have been thrown in with Cerrone. MURDER.

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by Damon O. on Dec 21, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with Buddha

While the comment “Unfortunately for Chris Horodecki, he has never been able to win me over as a fan” is not really a big deal. It did stick out to me. Why is it Unfortunate for Horodecki? What does he care? Other than that Leland Roling brings up some valid points.

by Myke25 on Dec 21, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

That’s all I was tryin to say, I guess it’s my fault for going the sarcastic route initially. Oh well.

by Buddha Brown on Dec 21, 2009 3:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i think we all realize

that Horodecki needs to drop down in weight. well, maybe everyone but him realizes it. but i’d expect him to have problems with the smaller weight classes, too. he’s not explosive in his striking or takedowns. but maybe at 135 (which is where i see him having his best chance) he can have a bit of a size/strength advantage.

i’d think 135 would be a reachable cut, just looking at him Saturday night.

by bobthewriter on Dec 21, 2009 1:45 PM EST reply actions  

agreed

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

145 would be too much for him

don’t you think?

i can’t see him being competitive with the top of that division. if they put Horodecki in there against Aldo, Horodecki would likely not go to the hospital. he’d probably be in the morgue. i can’t see him faring much better against Mike Brown or Faber.

maybe they could put him in against Jens Pulver. i like Jens, and i’d like to see him get back in the win column.

by bobthewriter on Dec 21, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I think bantamweight would be perfect. I mean, Ben Henderson is 5’8", 155, and Horodecki looks nothing like him in any aspect. I would think he could shed some pounds, and then cut to 135. I’m not an expert on weight cutting though. Maybe he can’t. Maybe he’s just broad in terms of his bone structure and muscle mass, but I have no idea.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Saying his evolution is "frustrating" ...

… implies that he has evolved at all. What is it with these Team Tompkins guys where none of them can learn to wrestle?

Also, dude is way doughy. Should definitely be at 45 if not 35.

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by The Kittitas Kid on Dec 21, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions  

You might be right. I think his ground tactics have evolved, but I’ve only seen a flash of it against a subpar fighter to himself. He’s evolved in that aspect, but in terms of striking — we didn’t see it.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 21, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I still gotta say that ko is in my top 5 most hilarious of all time…right there with za b judah getting kod by kaza tszu..

by longevity on Dec 21, 2009 3:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Is Horodecki the Jason Dent of the WEC?

Both guys have some talent but clearly are fighting too heavy and in the wrong weight class.

And yes I realize:
Horodeck is more of a prospect while Dent is past his prime.

by polevaultking on Dec 21, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions  

Would be interesting to see Dent at 145, I think he’s actually got potential

by StevenGiles on Dec 21, 2009 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Absolutely

And I also don’t believe he’s past his prime, personally.

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by Blackout612 on Dec 21, 2009 6:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Chris could probably make 145 if he tried, but 135lbs? No way in hell.

I trained with him a bit when he was 18, and I seem to recall him walking around at about 165lbs in training.

Assuming that he’s filled out by, say, 4-5 lbs in the 3 or 4 years since then, I can’t imagine a 35lbs-ish cut down to 135 being possible.

by CstBoog on Dec 21, 2009 6:37 PM EST reply actions  

There’s also a possibility that Chris had lingering weakness from his arm and back injury.
Early in the year, he failed to receive medical clearance to fight on the Affliction: Day of Reckoning event.

Quote from 5 Ounces article:


“His trainer, Shawn Tompkins, contacted Five Ounces of Pain and stated that Horodecki originally underwent a series of medical exams in Las Vegas but that several items on his medical papers needed to be completed.

An appointment in the Los Angeles area was made in order to complete Horodecki’s forms and Tompkins said the exam went well until Horodecki was administered a pressure test. A doctor determined that Horodecki possessed less than 15% strength in his right arm and that he is likely to be suffering from a bulging disk in his neck. As such, Horodecki could not be licensed for Saturday’s fight vs. Dan Lauzon and he will recuperate up until it is determined that he is medically cleared to resume fighting."

Who knows if he’s even close to 100% physically? You have to be in pretty bad shape to not get cleared for a fight. Guys are regularly walking into fights with ACL injuries, staph, and God knows what else.

by MMAEruption on Dec 21, 2009 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

I do agree with other posters that he needs to go to 145.

by MMAEruption on Dec 21, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Njokuani might have fixed that bulging disc for him.

Guillotine.

by iiowyn on Dec 21, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Sometimes it is what it is

With Horodecki being so young, he has the chance to still improve and sponge new techniques. On the other hand, some fighters plateau at certain points and can’t get past a certain level (Guida, McFedries, Smith, etc, the list is long).

by chrisbboy82 on Dec 21, 2009 9:41 PM EST reply actions  

Chris Horodecki is a very young and promising MMA star and he is learning and evolving each and every day he trains in this sport as well as every other MMA fighter.
Just because Chris trains with the same crew daily doesn’t mean he’s not learning new and innovative skills in MMA people.
Because of his age and his MMA past I believe Chris Horodecki is a can’t miss fighter that will leave his unmistakable mark in the sport.

by twodragunns on Dec 22, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions  

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