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What Chance Does Matt Hamill Have Against Jon Jones?

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This fight has "groom Jon Jones" written all over it. Don't be fooled: a "grooming" fight is not one where the outcome is all but decided before the bout itself. Rather, it's one where a rising prospect is tackling a manageable but clear challenge. In this case, a decorated wrestler unafraid of Jones' wrestling with moderately threatening striking:

But when Hamill knocked out Mark Munoz with a single kick to the head at UFC 96 in March, there was no hiding ‘The Hammer’ anymore, especially since you will probably see the ending of the bout on highlight reels forever. It was the first clean knockout of Hamill’s career, but one that didn’t immediately register when he landed the finisher.

"I didn't know he was out until the referee stopped the fight," said Hamill. "It was my first knockout."

It was also the first real sign that Hamill’s standup had started to catch up with his wrestling, a testament to the work he’s been putting in the gym over the years.

"I’ve been working on standup more than wrestling," he admits. "I'm trying to be a well-rounded fighter."

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"This is Jon’s biggest test and he's probably working harder than ever to keep his unbeaten record," said Hamill. "I will show him a real fight, and it will be a good fight, I can promise that."

As for the prospect of dealing with the unorthodox moves Jones has made his reputation on thus far, Hamill gets right to the point: "my trainer and I have been working on a few things."

Let's be clear: Hamill's attached to fundamentals. Less so in his wrestling as he is able to improvise, but the rehearsed, almost too textbook striking of Hamill's will be his undoing. His lateral and forward movement is often slow, which allows opposition to create angles or adjust positioning. He also allows his opponents too much reset time, which against a brash, explosive striker like Jones is going to be a death sentence.

The longer this fight stays on the feet or more particularly at range, the quicker it ends. Hamill should not be counted out. He is very capable of winning here. But at 33 and with limited upside at this stage in his career, it's clear the UFC wants to use his existing talents to test the next stage of blue chip prospects.

I don't know if we'll see flying colors, but Jones should pass this test.

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I don’t know who will win this fight but it is safe to say when people are asking “What Chance Does Matt Hamill Have” that he’s being seriously underestimated.

There’s a huge hype train behind Jones based off his previous exciting fights but some times the hype clouds our judgement.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 2, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions   2 recs

he’s being seriously underestimated.

QFT, I like them both but to pan on Hamill seems like a huge mistake. I don’t think we know enough about Jones yet to automagically give him the nod in this fight. I expect Hamill to be the spoiler here.

by pr0cs on Dec 2, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Who is automatically giving him the nod?

“Hamill should not be counted out. He is very capable of winning here.”

by Luke Thomas on Dec 2, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

The only way I see Hamill winning with his plodding, wading in style of striking is if he can wear down Jones in the clinch, and execute in the late 2nd/3rd round. Bonnar showed that Jones doesn’t have the greatest gas tank, so that’s the real question in this fight.

Hamill has to defend the onslaught of crafty striking before that can be a thought.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 2, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

The issue with his gas tank may be an isolated incident. Do you recall how Shogun’s cardio was questioned after his horrible Coleman performance?

This should be a great fight.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 2, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah but jones dident have knee sugeries like shogun

by Riley_96 on Dec 2, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Doesn’t seem very isolated to me. He gassed against both Gusmao and Bonnar. Moving to Team Jackson should make him better conditioned I suppose since Tri Star Gym is also in the fold, but we’ll find out if this goes into the later rounds.

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by Leland Roling on Dec 2, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

WooooOOooo… go Hamill.

by Nick Thomas on Dec 2, 2009 11:08 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Please tell me...

he doesn’t wax his arm pits.

by Bar Belle on Dec 2, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Hamill takes this one. The bones jones hype train is about to be derailed.

by b2tharad on Dec 2, 2009 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

I love all the people saying Jones is gonna lose just because he has so much hype. Two things-1) the vast majority of these people probably wouldn’t be willing to bet a nickel of their own money on Hammill and 2) They’ll be nowhere around when Hammill loses to admit they were wrong.

by ufc4 on Dec 2, 2009 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'll be around if/when he loses

but I’ll to be busy crying to admit I was wrong.

Would have liked to see the Vera/Hamill fight though.

by Bar Belle on Dec 2, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

all of you predicting hamill to be the spoiler...

…time to be disappointed. jon jones is the next big thing baby.

i’ll go out on a limb and predict that greg jackson and crew decide the right strategy is to plant hamill on his back, and pound him from his guard.

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by GregS123 on Dec 2, 2009 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

Hamill is always underrated in his fights, the dude gets better everytime we seeh im, but his main problem in all most all of his fights is conditioning and his stand up. Jon Jones could get crazy and hit him with a knee and send him down to the mat.

by "Mr. NC-17" on Dec 2, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

Bones by reverse-spinning-back-elbow-knee.

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by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

ha! Too bad the referee doesn’t have the advantage of instant replay.
Real fast illegal blows are usually left unchecked.

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by VeeisAnimated on Dec 2, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re allowed to do illegal blows if it’s really cool.

Eg: spinning revese heel to the balls.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah bonnar took that elbow right on the back of the cocanut

by Riley_96 on Dec 2, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

No

Jones by spinning flying groin KO.

by SpaceSoap on Dec 2, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hamill

only because Jone’s gf is about to have a baby. We hear it all the time “I gotta do this for my family.” Then after getting beat, “my mind was not in this fight.”

by ryanwk628 on Dec 2, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Hamill has a solid chance to take this fight, sure jones has destroyed his past opponets but really he has not fought any one who is really relevant any more, Hamill will be his first real test in the division. With that said Jones has all the tools to take out Hamill and can do so rather quickly unless hamill has worked on speed and throwing punches with more snap. Hamill did not fair to well against rich franklin and jones may not have the same technical abilities as Rich but he has more explosiveness. Interesting fight can’t wait

by Riley_96 on Dec 2, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Jon Jones may be the next big thing but......

This fight has “huge upset” written all over it.

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Dec 2, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Except that it really wouldn’t be that big of an upset if an upset at all

by xbuckeyex05 on Dec 2, 2009 11:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow. Did you even read the little article above?

"Stop smiling you are about to be punched in the face !"

by Warhand on Dec 2, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

How so? Because Jon Jones has too much “hype”?

by ufc4 on Dec 2, 2009 2:22 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I bet almost all my mmaplayground money on Jones in this fight. I’m that confident.

by jafotinatos on Dec 2, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions  

Houston is a better bet, I’m going to double my money.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Houston is my second, smaller bet. Then a Houston + Jones parlay. Those 3 bets combined are all my money — first time I’ve done that.

by jafotinatos on Dec 2, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Parlays are evil, Satan invented them. After losing money consistently I don’t do parlays anymore.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree

pro line? also evil. Its the only time sports center depresses me

by Riley_96 on Dec 2, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

You realize that isn’t real money we play with on MMAP right?

by ufc4 on Dec 2, 2009 2:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yes, I know. All the fake money I lose keeps me from getting any illusions of grandeur about my abilities to bet on MMA.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m no angel, but I was always the kid who snitched on the kids who had pot. I don’t want to offend the pot smokers out there, but I was kind of just a snitch. I was just down for people doing the right thing. My parents kind of raised me to be a good guy. I’ve always been down for the good side, I guess.

Damn, I hope ’Ammel puts a beating on this kid!

by An0nymous on Dec 2, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Very bad match for Hamill. Hype aside, he’s slower, will have a hard time taking Jones down, and faces a severe reach disadvantage.

by Michael Rome on Dec 2, 2009 1:18 PM EST reply actions  

Just to quantify the reach:

Matt Hamill: 76 inch reach

Jon Jones: 84.5 inch reach

Hamill’s striking is too slow to close this gap and connect.

by Michael Rome on Dec 2, 2009 1:29 PM EST reply actions  

I agree.

I like Hamill. I think he’s a very tough fight for nearly everyone at 205. I just think this happens to be a bad matchup for him at that weight.

by Hardcharger on Dec 2, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve read where Semmy Schilt’s reach is 83.5in, making Jones’s even more impressive.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 2, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i’d bet on hamill for an “upset”. esp. seeing how the odds shape up for the betting lines.

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by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 2, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

I saw matt hamill roll with Rolles Gracie, and a couple of other guys from the Gracie Academy..

He got a lot of takedowns on Rolles, but wasn’t able to do much passing or subs.. But the guy has tremendous cardio. He out worked everyone there. He kept on rolling with different partners until they got tired, but Matt just kept on asking to do it one more round.

PS
He got tapped by a girl once. (not that it’s such a bad thing to get tapped in practice)

by Anton Tabuena on Dec 2, 2009 7:20 PM EST reply actions  

Jon Jones all day.

by goodbones on Dec 2, 2009 8:47 PM EST reply actions  

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