Demian Maia says "I wasn’t knocked out":
"Actually I was conscious, I wasn’t knocked out, it was a knock down". "A lot of people say that what Nate Marquardt did was nice, because he didn’t hit me on the floor. Maybe it was that. But maybe he stopped, because if he missed the punch, I would tangle with him and the fight would still go on".
... "The defeat had a good side: as I’m a few steps away from the fight for the belt, and as Anderson Silva said that he would retire in three fights, maybe I won’t have to face him anymore. As I've accepted an invitation to train boxing with Rodrigo and Rogério".
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Nate Marquardt hit Demian Maia so hard that Maia is still apparently loopy.
by bobthewriter on Dec 2, 2009 9:13 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
If Maia wasn't knocked out,
then why has it taking him this long to make a statement about it? lol
Methinks he just woke up.
However, I did think that Nate should have thrown that extra punch because when he pulled the punch the ref subconsciously thinks the fight is over and jumps in. It’s almost like a trick fighters could use. Refrain from throwing another shot signaling the fight is over..
he seems to be scared of Andy, seems he’s going to train with the Nog’s and not with Andy…
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Avoiding a fight with Anderson Silva is good for your career and health. Especially for someone just learning the standup game.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
yeah
I don’t think there is any threat to Andy at MW to be honest, but each fighter on that division should be confident and should be willing to fight for the championship belt, regardless of the animal that is holding the belt. Otherwise, what is the point of being a fighter if they are not pursuing that prize?
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money,Cash,Hoes
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
KTFO!!!
That is total BS. Marquardt scared to come in for the kill b/c Maia might’ve sub’d him? WTF ever. Maia got KTFO!!!
*sweatdrop*
I distinctly remember Maia being prone, unlike Koscheck (when he got dropped by Paulo Thiago), so the sub threat is bull unless Maia secretly knows how to actually submit the opponent from his back control.
… naaaaaaaaah.
"Damn contact lens..."
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by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 2, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
for a guy who's awake
his head sure ate shit pretty hard
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Dec 2, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well, if Marquardt took his back and crossed his ankles instead of getting proper hooks in he could get sub’d, or if he body triangled Maia he could potentially get sub’d too; or potentially if he went for an RNC he could get overshoulder straight armbar’d)
(disclaimer: These are the only three submissions I’m really aware of when your opponent has your back… also they are very low % and this post is meant as a joke).
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
by Patrick Tenney on Dec 2, 2009 9:34 AM EST up reply actions
Just because you think your awake doesn’t mean you are (in the conventional sense)… if you listen to Rashad talking about being KO’d by Machida, he says he was pretty much awake through it all but at least he admits to being out.
And as for hoping to duck Anderson Silva if he retires and getting a title shot against someone else… not someone I want to see holding the belt. Where is your aspirations to beat the best? Bah….
Aspirations to beat the best or understanding your limits. Silva crushes fighters standing. Its like a kickboxer being happy he doesn’t have to grapple with Maia after training in BJJ for two years.
Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.
Remember, this was probably translated and may have lost some finer points..
like humor and sarcasm.
I have a feeling the comments about Anderson retiring before Maia having a shot at him might have been humor.
I have seen countless times on this site and others where a Brazilian fighter is quoted through translation and people get up in arms only to find out something was lost in translation.
no shit
I am Brazilian and will usually make the error of taking quotes as 100% accurate even though they are usually translated (by google) incorrectly. I should always try to find out from the source document that was translated if it were in fact the correct quote, but I’m just one lazy SOB :’(
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
My brother dates a Brazilian and has lots of friends who are Brazilian.
According to him, via his gf, etc…people like Anderson Silva and others are routinely misquoted through their translators. Often, from what it sounds like, there is a bit of hype added to the translation to make the fighters more confrontational, etc…
Granted, a guy like Anderson could bother to learn English, but beyond that there is often a language barrier that seems to make these situations more dramatic than they really ought to be.
Hey Orcus,
can you translate this? http://colunas.combate.globo.com/paulasack/2009/12/02/exclusiva-com-renzo-gracie-direto-de-ny/
did renzo really sign?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 2, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
it says he did in fact sign
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
thanks a lot,
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/12/2/1182647/report-renzo-gracie-has-officially
that’s it though? no other details right? :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 2, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, you have to forgive me, but I’m probably the laziest guy around here. I just cannot translate the whole interview (4 minutes!), but I’ll let you know the main points (which I think was already reported by other sources)
-He says he signed for 6 fights
-When asked about his age, he said "age is in the eyes of the beholder, 42 is the new 30!"
-He insists that Matt Hughes will be his first opponent and the score will be 1-1 for Hughes vs Gracies
-He says this will be the first time he’ll fight at his true weight class.
Sorry for not translating the whole thing man, but these were the main points of the interview :P
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
that's more than enough dude. thanks a whole lot. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 2, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I posted it
here if you haven’t seen it yet. thanks again. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 3, 2009 4:22 AM EST up reply actions
maia
no longer one of my favs. The guy was KO’d, there is no other way of looking at it. and he seems to be evading an eventual fight with Andy. If you’re a fighter, you shouldn’t duck other fighters, you should want to be the best and beat the best. This guy doesn’t seem to have a heart of a fighter….
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
orcus
no longer one of my faves :(
and rewatching the fight, Machida won the first 3 rounds. Boo YAHHHH!
haha
when was I ever a crowd pleaser though, I’m sure I’m not on anyone’s list of “faves” commenters :P
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Man he went from i want to rip the spiders arm off to i guess getting koed was the best thing that could have happened to me. Now i dont have to face Silva. Guess getting koed brought him down a peg or two.
Nah. That punch KO’d Maia. If you watch the fight again, his head actually hits the mat. I think that might have woke him up a bit, but even after he rolls over, you can see he is conscious, but has no idea where he is. He doesn’t really turtle or anything, just rolls over and has this 1000 yard stare. Nate stopped himself from hurting Maia even more. I like Maia, but he’s wrong here. Obviously he knows himself better than anyone else, but it didn’t look like he would be able to defend himself.
I love me some Sexyama!
Dave Kaplan wasn’t KO’d in the TUF bathroom either.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Dec 2, 2009 10:38 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
I think he was snoring before he hit the ground
by soadtrails on Dec 2, 2009 12:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He was pining for the fijords.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Dec 2, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
“It was a cut. The doctor stopped the fight because of a cut.”
/obscure?
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
He was conscious, and has always said so.
That doesn’t mean it was a bad stoppage, and I’ve never heard him even imply that. Always says he was conscious, but out of the fight. Just because you are awake doesn’t mean you’re not done.
MMA fans have this obsession with guys being out cold. Like it’s only a real KO if they are Bisping’d or Lindland’d. The sport doesn’t have to be that brutal. Lets not complain when Koscheck or Demian have the thousand yard stare and the ref stops it. Demian doesn’t. Koscheck… will be Koscheck, but that’s another story.
by pdl on Dec 2, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I don’t think anyone here is arguing that the fight was a bad stoppage, they are arguing that the KO was in fact a KO. Maia has said in the past that he was still conscious, but he never made a leap like he did here to argue that he’d be able to sub Nate had Nate followed up to punch him more. That’s what’s crazy about what he’s saying here.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
...that's really not his point.
He’s praising Nate for being safe. He’s saying ‘It is indicative of Nate’s experience level that he did not leap to the ground against a dangerous grappler just because he smelled blood. If he did that and made a mistake he would potentially open himself to a new danger in the fight instead of walking away with a win as he did.’ Everyone here is leaping to conclusions about what he meant based on a mediocre translation from an interview conducted in Portuguese.
by pdl on Dec 2, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
You know, you have a huge point on the translation there. I went to tatame.com.br to see if there were errors in the translation, and you were right… What he said was "a lot of people said that what he did was nice for not attacking me on the ground. Maybe that was the case. But perhaps he may have stoped because if he were to miss a punch on the ground, I could have grappled with him and the fight would go on" It sure seems like he’s talking more about Nate’s state of mind for not pursuing the fight on the ground instead of his own ability to proceed with the fight had Nate gone to the ground with him to follow up with GnP, I missed that, my bad Maia! You’re back on my list of faves!
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Since i know most of the people will talk about about the "i was not knocked out" line,
I think it’s really great that he’s training with the Nog twins.. Also, does anyone really believe that Silva will really retire after 3 fights?
He seems genuinely honest in interviews about retiring, he talks about being away from family and not being there for his kids as a "father" should be and that is the main reason (among others) why he wants to retire. He’s got the money to not worry about expenses any time soon, so I tend to believe him when he says he wants to retire. You have to remember that Andy was going to retire a while back before teaming up with the Nogs, Big Nog is the reason he’s fighting today (and on a separate interview joked about Andy saying That guy is never going to retire). But I can see Anderson’s perspective. besides, he’ll be around 35/36 if he has it his way, and leaving on top of the game before age catches up to him seems like a good plan.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
it’s the flash knockdown claim that does happen to guys sometimes. sometimes you don’t even know you were out. happened in my first amateur boxing bout. didn’t even know/remember/aware I was out til afterwards.
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by theworldsoldestsport on Dec 2, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions
Yet another case of B.E. commenters getting up in arms about some tossed-off fighter quote. “I’m not a fan anymore!” “He’s scared!” blah blah blah etc.
He didn’t say anything to indicate he thought it was a bad stoppage. For all we know, he could be telling the truth when he says he was conscious. And as for the Anderson Silva comment, he’s just saying it would be awkward to be gunning for a fight with Anderson while training with Anderson’s teammates.
But don’t let me stop any of you from deciding you just “lost all respect for Demain Maia.” (I’m surprised no one’s trotted that one out yet.)
by JRN on Dec 2, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
right
because of what a fighter says we can never dispute his heart as a fighter or our respect towards them. while I agree that this particular one is out of context, when a fighter says something they are reliable for it and are open for critiques from the community.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
Yes, anything anyone says is open for critique. My point is that the critiques leveled here, and after most quotes of this kind, miss the mark.
by JRN on Dec 2, 2009 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
sure, but unfortunately most people have to deal with quotes that are badly translated and have to go with what they have.
as far as fighters not fighting teammates, I can understand that, not fighting a teammate of a guy you’ll train with a bit though, I cannot.
cagar é uma filosofia profunda...
a merda bate na água e a água bate na bunda.
I don’t think he’s saying he’d refuse the fight for that reason. I’m guessing if it were to come up, he wouldn’t be able to train with the Nogueiras anymore. And since training with the Nogueiras is probably awesome, it might be a good thing for that fight never to come up. That’s really all I think you can reasonably take from this quote.
I agree with you so often it is beginning to get a bit eerie.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
Yet another case of B.E. commenters getting up in arms about some tossed-off fighter quote.
You think this is bad? You haven’t seen other sites have you? :)
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 3, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
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