Sean Sherk Off UFC 108 With Injury, Duane Ludwig In
by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM EST
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The Northwest Indiana Times is reporting that Sean Sherk is off the UFC 108 card:
Former lightweight champion Sean Sherk has suffered an injury and will not fight on the Jan. 2 UFC 108 card, The Times learned Thursday from sources close to Sherk's camp.
Sherk reportedly was scheduled to fight Jim Miller, though the bout had not yet officially been announced by the organization.
Ironically, Sherk was replacing Tyson Griffin, who just last week was forced off the card with an injury of his own.
There really are no words to explain the luck of this card. Guys are getting injured one after another, the guys who replace guys who got injured are getting injured, and one of the main event fighters is rumored to be hurt but being paid to not pull out.
No matter what kind of front Dana is putting up, the promotion is not thinking of this card as business as usual. I'm just sure everyone is ready to see January 2 come and go.
[UPDATE] - Monte Cox said the 36-year-old Minnesotan sustained a cut over his right eye that required multiple stitches. Photo via sherdog.com[UPDATE] #2 - Duane Ludwig vs. Jim Miller at UFC 108:
Stepping in to replace Sherk will be Duane "Bang" Ludwig who will return to the UFC for the first time since 2006 to take on Jim Miller in a 155lb contest.UFC 108: Evans vs. Silva coverage
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I see supremacy beat me to the punch…so good on him
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 17, 2009 10:23 PM EST reply actions
HISSSS ::makes cross with fingers::
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
::sprinkles chicken blood on the remainder of the ufc 108 card::
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
The power of christ compels you
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Joe Silva will NOT allow for this
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Need to sacrifice a white bull to Mariusz Pudzianowski.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
Or
We need to sacrifice another t-shirt company to Ken Shamrock.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
We have angered the Wargodz with our impudence.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
Whatcha gonna do
When Wargodz runs wild on you!
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
I don't know
I think it’s time to move this to Spike. Better get an exec on the phone, stat. You shouldn’t sell this card anymore.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
They get two cards a year
And Jones/Vera is already getting one of em.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
That leaves one left
work with us. We’re trying to get a free show here, remember?
I mean, I'll still pay
I just think it’s more prudent. This card is in shambles.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
I refuse to pay for this cursed event
I’m afraid it may shatter my flat screen
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Though, of course
They could try to bump that one over to Spike or something.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'm starting to wonder if some other factor is at work here.
Not some conspiracy, but has something changed to how injuries are treated? Some policy change as to how the UFC or Commissions are treating fighters who fight with injuries that would make a fighter weary of gutting it out like usual? Or perhaps some grass roots attempt to force the UFC’s hand on some matter by the fighters?
It just seems like too long a string of bad luck with injuries to major fighters to simply be bad luck.
Or perhaps I need to go to bed.
Warm glass of milk
Time for nigh-nigh.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
How about a warm glass of shut the hell up?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Like this?
The UG smells something fishy:
A notable head of a major athletic commission talked to a notable head of a major fight company whose athletes were rampantly using steroids and suggested for the good of the company and the sport, they should test everyone themselves one month out.
The ones that fail, they should announce that they are injured, because in training, everyone is really injured, get a legit diagnosis of the injury, and pull them out of the fight, that way they don’t have guys suspended.
Not that this has anything to do with anything this week."
- Dave Meltzer talking about the last time Sherk pulled out due to injury:
by Nick Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 7:04 PM PST
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/12/17/1206661/ufc-108-prelims-on-spike-to-be
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
You’re being a huge troll right now.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nope, legit question. Posting it because a lot of people are bringing it up right now.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I like how you always say "a lot of people"
And none of those people are here.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
There’s a couple that have brought it up.
=)
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 11:15 PM EST up reply actions
The voices in your head? I’m glad that they’re talking about Sean Sherk and not telling you to make shoes out of baby skin.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
THOSE are my “insiders”, remember?
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You’re going to make me develop an ulcer.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:19 PM EST up reply actions
People need SOME sort of rational explanation for this MADNESS.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions
Cthulhu
Let’s be realistic here..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Barnett
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
What were you thinking in lending the Black Goat of the Forest the Necronomicon?
by John Nash on Dec 17, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for an especially awesome Lovecraftian reference
If you’re lurking around in the film industry, get me some fuckin Cthuhlu mythos on the big screen already, damn it! They’ve got the technology! Cloverfield was a big Lovecraftian dick-tease..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
How did I not hear about this??
One of my favorite directors, no less? I am very aroused.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
Am I the only nerd who doesn’t like Lovecraft?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 18, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
As a fan of HP Lovecraft’s work I also hope they don’t get any of them on the screen because they rarely work: The Curse (The Colour Out of Space); The Dunwich Horror; From Beyond; The Lurking Fear; Necronimicon; The Unnamable; In the Mouth Of Madness where all horrible adaptions. The only exception is the Re-Animator (which was directed by Stuart Gordon, who was, strangely enough, had an office next to mine for years.), but this is offset by Bride of the Re-Animator. There is something about translating his horrors beyond horrors, insanity inducing room measurements, and cursed family lineages that have proven impossible to bring to the screen.
Maybe Del Toro will prove me wrong.
I'm going to have to make a ruling
and let this one stand because it’s Dave Meltzer talking.
You get to make rulings now?
When did this happen?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
I only like westerns that have Clint Eastwood in them.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
Is there a written test?
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
You were DQ'd beforehand
It was the avatar that did it
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Is that the Flag of the Philippines as his avatar?
A Canuck-Filipino? Wouldn’t they just freeze?
This is the internet
The one rule is adults are NOT allowed to be in charge.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Quiet there!
I didn’t give you permission to speak yet.
by John Nash on Dec 17, 2009 11:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i wish someone could do a timeline of this card from its original rumored card to now…cant go a day withouth seeing someone gettin hurt
Brock Lesnar injured, Anderson Silva injured, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira injured, Gabriel Gonzaga injured, Carlos Condit injured, Rory Markham injured, Tyson Griffin injured and now Sean Sherk injured.
by Nick Thomas on Dec 17, 2009 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t forget: Rampage acting.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yes
Brain injury.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 7 recs
this must be a different color
Kuwabara Kuwabara
by J. B. Maddox on Dec 17, 2009 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
Look at those names!
This is absolutely nuts. Never seen anything like it and probably never will again.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
no 107 against fitch
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
I could have sworn
that they bumped Fitch back a card. I vaguely remember being excited for that fight and getting to see Alves and Fitch live again after 100. Can anybody else settle this?
Sorry
I missed the “this card” part, thought we were just talkig injuries in general over the last few cards
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
no need to apologize
but my forgiveness is yours
"If I wanted to spend a half hour between two hairy legs I'd go to your mother's house." -Don Frye
I wonder if it was that same shoulder injury he was rocking last time he had to pull out due to injury. This coupled with the rumors that he couldn’t shoot on Edgar because of knee troubles make me a little worried for the dude :(
He can't train half-speed
I wouldn’t put it past him to hurt himself by over-exertion of any one of his nagging injuries.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
J-Lau
Wise for decking himself out in bubble wrap until he fights.
"You guys are jerking eachother off with some pseudo deep bullshit." - Kid Nate
by Kaleb Kelchner on Dec 17, 2009 10:36 PM EST reply actions
"Ironically, Sherk was replacing Tyson Griffin, who just last week was forced off the card with an injury of his own."
i see they went to the Mike Goldberg school of irony. Does no one know how to use that word correctly anymore?
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It's the Northwest Indiana Times
The circulation is like 11 houses.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, but the paperboy always seems to miss a few houses, so the circulation is dwindling from day-to-day. Damn guy rolling tires and kids throwing baseballs…
If you can't laugh at yourself... Who can you laugh at?
The Packers, that’s who.
-- The almighty Manimal
by TheViking83 on Dec 17, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0PXuVc9Vgk&feature=player_embedded
My motto,
As I live and learn,
is:
Dig and Be Dug
In Return.
-Langston Hughes (no relation to Matt)
Yet...
for a newspaper they have great MMA coverage
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by Brent Brookhouse on Dec 17, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
There hath he lain for ages and will lie,
Battening on huge seaworms in his sleep;
Until the latter fire shall heat the deep;
Then once by man and angels to be seen,
In roaring he shall rise and on the surface die.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
by Ubernoober on Dec 17, 2009 10:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
YUS!
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Right
So everytime Sherk is supposed to fight now he has a steroid-injury.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
Jemaleddin should coming along to push this theory in 3…2…
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
That a penniless 18 year old Brock Lesnar from Shitsplat N. Dakota used an expensive HGH and steroid regimen to gain his freakish size in junior college?
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
by Ubernoober on Dec 17, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Who said that? Not me.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
What?
The guy has a cut.
A very CONVENIENT cut. ;-)
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Let me add...
That it’s really sweet that I have a reputation on this site for being a RAVING lunatic for thinking that Sean Sherk, a guy who tested positive for steroids, did steroids. I just imagine the office conversations:
1: Oh my god, this guy is such a nut.
2: Who?
1: This idiot in the comments. You know Sean Sherk?
2: Maybe…
1: The Muscle Shark?
2: Umm….
1: The one with the insane conditioning program?
2: Well…
1: The little guy with more muscle than some heavyweights?
2: Mmmmm….
1: The one that tested positive for steroids?
2: Oh, yeah! The guy who was fined and suspended for doing steroids.
1: Well, this guy thinks he actually DID steroids!
2: Oh, you’re right! That guy’s a NUT.
What can I say? I’m a nut.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
by jemaleddin on Dec 18, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The steroids were SO devastating, they popped out of his forehead.
"He wants to portray himself as the crazy one; I think he’s just portraying himself as the weird one. And we’re gonna know which guy’s more crazy when we get into the Octagon." - BJ Penn (about Diego Sanchez)
by itsallgood013 on Dec 18, 2009 12:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
From Mike Russell (writes for the UFC and has full access to the roster) on the UG:
Sherk has not pulled out. Talked to him tonight…Wait and see if there is a source more reputable than “sources close to the fighter”.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wait wait, oh yeah, hahahahahahahaha, WTF is wrong with this card?!?!?
"Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit." -Mike Tyson
Sherdog confirms he's out
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Sherk-Out-of-UFC-108-21624
Cox said the 36-year-old Minnesotan sustained a cut over his right eye that required multiple stitches. The former UFC lightweight champion had been promoted from a preliminary bout to face Miller on the main card only a week ago.
There’s a pic of his cut on the link.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
Sup was right
He smashed a bottle over his own head after testing positive. Combination of coverup/roid-rage.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I was gonna call it a Shamrock
But I didn’t want to be funny, I was explaining your thought process.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Well we know he didn’t cut himself going for a takedown on someone. He doesn’t do that anymore.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
LOL… My guess is intense shadow boxing.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 11:23 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he was hanging out in Carlos Condit’s garage.
"My diet is like Atkins, but with the carbs." - BJ Penn
My guess is that he was doing some caveman training.
Turns out that that’s one thing NOT so easy a caveman can do it.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Why are you baiting me?
WHY?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Bang??
That is really fucking cool. But this still shouldn’t be on PPV.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 17, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
It’s at the point where you just have to say “fuck it.”
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
UFC 108: Fuck It
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
Love Bang, but damn, this thing needs to be put out of its misery.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 17, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions
Only one month to go, things can’t get worse.
THAT’S RIGHT I SAID IT!!! THINGS CAN’T GET WORSE!!!
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
About time they brought back Bang, he is 2-0 in the UFC after all.
Time to promote The Janitor to the main card. Matyushenko-Cantwell will be a good one.
by smoogy2 on Dec 17, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Man I hope Vlad kicks his ass..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
I think Sean Sherk’s skin had a flashback and spontaneously split open from watching the Diego/BJ fight.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
by Ubernoober on Dec 17, 2009 11:42 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Haha
Love/hate this comment, so I’m rec’ing AND flagging it.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions
Bang
He’s a worthy replacement. It’s always fun to watch him fight.
by TannerMatthews on Dec 17, 2009 11:53 PM EST reply actions
Apparently Thiago Silva. He’s got an ankle injury is the rumour.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
A victory for Ludwig followed by some alienating of the Zuffa bosses perhaps?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
would there be any financial ramifications to moving this card to Spike?
"He will lie between resentment and regret. He shed his grace. As certain as a snake sheds its skin. Laid waste to a wealth of talent--his curse being blessed with treasures that just were not gold enough"
by ProfessorBLove on Dec 18, 2009 12:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Guess 300 000 buys with approx $30 going to Zuffa a pop this would lose them $9 000 000
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
Well
They stand to lose money over PPV, but they’d get ad rev. Getting a little late in the game for selling ads, though..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
It’s too late to change course. It’s sort of like how the Titanic would have been better off to take the iceberg right on the nose instead of turning too late and getting it’s starboard side torn up.
They’re taking a hit no matter what, so they might as well keep on trucking.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
I made this poster just in case anyone else gets injured
by IRodC on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
He’s perhaps the only person most people don’t want to be there.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 18, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions
I genuinely laughed at the notion of a referee being the only consistent factor of this card.
It’s the 1% of people who are actually funny on here that compel me to bother reading the comments anymore.
It actually is a big deal
Since Yvel was brought in to hospitalize him.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 18, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Man, Sherk sure is pulling out of a lot of fights lately.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Since when is 2 a lot? You should’ve said:
Man, Sherk sure is pulling out of 2 fights lately
"He wants to portray himself as the crazy one; I think he’s just portraying himself as the weird one. And we’re gonna know which guy’s more crazy when we get into the Octagon." - BJ Penn (about Diego Sanchez)
by itsallgood013 on Dec 18, 2009 12:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2 is a lot...
…when the top guys fight 2-3 times a year. Since his return to the UFC, Sean fought:
2005: 1
2006: 2
2007: 1
2008: 2
2009: 1
And now he’s missing his first fight of 2010. So yeah, 2 is a lot.
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
So yeah, 2 is a lot.
So in ’06 and ’08 he fought a lot?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
If he’d missed 2 fights in those years, would he have made a lot of money?
Don't believe a word I say, I don't train BJJ.
I blog at TangleBones - you should follow me on Twitter here.
Duane Ludwig?
Seriously? Miller should have an easy fight there.
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