Frank Mir and Shane Carwin Are Open to Fighting Each Other
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 14, 2009 9:30 PM EST
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Both guys want a shot at Brock Lesnar, but with the champion still sidelined indefinitely, Frank Mir and Shane Carwin are open to the idea of facing off, possibly for a future shot at Lesnar, or maybe an Interim Heavyweight Championship.
Frank Mir says that while he still desperately wants a shot at Lesnar, Shane Carwin would be a good substitute:
"I couldn’t argue against that. Carwin is a phenomenal match-up, and I think if I can’t fight Brock again to show that I’ve made improvements against that style, I think Shane Carwin is a more than an ample substitution. If anything, I think he’s a better version."
Shane Carwin blogged about his willingness to face off against a "legend" in Mir:
"A win like Frank had last night surely propels him to share the top of the division with Nog, Cain and myself. If beating Kongo was enough to propel Cain to number two contender status, destroying Kongo might edge Cain out. What is more compelling is that Mir made it our of that fight injury free so not only is he at the top of the division he is likely ready to fight sooner then later.
The main question I am getting is would I fight Frank? The answer is easy YES. I am not a fighter who decides who he fights, I fight who I am told to fight. I like it that way, I am not trying to build a legacy I am trying to fight the best fighters in the World and determine where I fit in. Mir is a Multiple time Champion, who has been counted out more then Mike Tyson to only find himself right back at the top. He is a LEGEND of the sport and I would be honored to fight him."
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Of course he wants to fight him— he wants to follow the Lesnar blueprint.
by Blackout612
NICE
If Brock can’t defend the belt by next Summer, I say fuck it- strip him of the title, and have the winner of Nog/ Cain fight the winner of Mir/ Carwin. Or at the very least do an interim title and have the winner of that little mini tournament face off against Brock for the strap.
When the dust settles, if JDS is still undefeated you’ll have him to take the 1’st crack at the title (that is, if Nog doesn’t win).
by ElliotMatheny
Now if Mir can beat Carwin, I’ll give him a chance against Lesnar.
I think he’ll get his block knocked clean off though.
by Deo Wade
as far as stripping the title goes… does anyone remember how long they waited after mir’s accident before stripping him? just curious
People keep forgetting that JDS ain't undefeated
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 15, 2009 4:59 AM EST up reply actions
he also hasn’t really fought a lot of top guys yet either
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Werdum and CroCop aren’t top guys?
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
lol, not really; but close I guess; I wouldn’t hang my hat on it, esp when I said “a lot” and not “zero”
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
His career opponents aren’t too bad for a guy who has come charging out of nowhere in about a year.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
yea…doesn’t really change my point…a lot of guys look good until the get into the top tier and that’s the real test. It’s easy to look good fighting guys that aren’t in the top ten (ask fedor, lol…i kid, i kid)
I want to see him fight someone besides cro cop (who frankly hasn’t been a top guy in years) before I think of him as a contender. He needs to fight other guys that are going to be possible HW champs like Mir, Carwin, Nog, etc.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
JDS is on a different track than those other guys, if he beats Yvel he’ll be taking on at least 1 or 2 of those guys in ‘10. He’s also Big Nog’s pupil, so a fight against Big Nog is out of the question.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
(i hate that I train with so and so crap, so I wont’ fight him; but yea)
And like I said, I think the guy has the goods; I just want to see him get in there and mix it up with the others before I get too hyped for him (see this happen with too many fighters over the last fifteen years of watching this stuff)
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
jds has better wins than
than Carwin… and maybe even Cain for that matter….
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
If Werdum wasn’t a top fighter at the time JDS beat him, then guys like Shane Carwin and Cain Velasquez certainly aren’t top fighters now.
i love the new ‘unseen tournaments’ that seem to unfold in the ufc nowadays
by cagefightonacid on Dec 14, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions
Mir vs. Carwin
I’d love to see this match. I’d give the edge to Carwin, but wouldn’t count out Mir. He looked amazing against Kongo. This would certainly be a huge match.
Only thing is I’d hate to see either lose because of what it would mean for their title shots. I don’t want to see either man get set back.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
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I thought the same but Carwin will probably just hit him so hard that Frank reaches for a takedown and gets put on his back which leads to him getting pounded out. Carwin has the most violent GnP in the division. I doubt Frank could survive once Shane gets those hamhocks going.
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by FlyByKnight on Dec 14, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing they caught that on camera because there was no one there to see it.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 14, 2009 10:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Guys, can't we get along
lets face it you’re both right, If that right hand doesn’t put Mir to sleep out right, then the GnP rape will commence.
as long as Shane doesn’t make the same wrestler mistake Brock made the first fight and leave enough room for a good BJJ fighter to catch his arm or leg
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Carwin gets major dude points for not being worried about losing his spot in line.
50% more Ultimate than the leading competitor.
eh, he’d have to fight him eventually anyway if he beat Brock. I mean, if you are worried about losing to the #2,3 or 4 guy, then he shouldn’t be fighting the #1 guy. And he doesn’t seem worried, which is cool
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 14, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
What an absolutely ridiculous comment by Mir. Lesnar rolled him up like a paper ball and dunked him into the Octagon and he’s calling Carwin “a better version” of Lesnar? Clown shoes, Frankie..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 14, 2009 10:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I bet he doesn’t last as long against Carwin.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Dec 14, 2009 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Blackout612, I think Mir called Carwin a better version of Lesnar because he’s more well rounded and has standup
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Standing KO’s do not equate having standup.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Dec 14, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
He has stand up. Is it great and on Silva or Machida levels? No way. But it’s better than Brock’s and is effective.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Brock punched a man 15 yards
And has clearly exhibited a better tank (since he’s had the opp) and better ground.
You must train at T’s..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 14, 2009 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to get deep into this
But that’s just entirely incorrect.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 14, 2009 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
Put Carwin against anyone of Lesnar’s competiton and the same thing would have happened, only probably quicker. I’m not trying to knock on Lesnar. I think the guy is a beast. However, he doesn’t quite look comfortable trading yet, which is understanble since he’s fairly new. But I believe Carwin does have a better all around skill-set. Lesnar has the size and wresting advantage. That may be enough.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
You do know what well-rounded means right? If Carwin is the better striker while Brock is the better wrestler how does that make him more well-rounded?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Yes I do ufc4. Carwin has wrestling and stand-up. You could argue BJJ too. While Brock has pretty much has wrestling and that’s it.
The thing with Brock is his wrestling is so great that coupled with his tremendous size it makes him hard to beat. He could probably use that alone and hardly ever get defeated.
I mean I don’t think anyone would deny Fedor is more well rounded than Brock. That doesn’t mean Brock couldn’t beat Fedor possibly because of his wrestling ans size advantage. Same applies to Carwin.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
WHAT?
You seem lost. Carwin arguably has BJJ? You know Lesnar trains with Comprido, right?
Seriously, you train. At TsKO or what? Denver guy maybe?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 15, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
You’re from Minnesota, you train at MMMA?
by dancingChicken on Dec 15, 2009 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
Oh snap?
Nothing I’ve said lacks validity.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
We have seen even less of Shane’s wrestling than we have of Brock’s standup, we know Brock knocked Mir into next week in their first fight and he did it to Heath Herring as well, on the other hand we haven’t seen enough of Carwin’s wrestling to have a feel for exactly how effective it is in the cage. You are making unfair assumptions about Carwin’s ground game while not giving Brock enough credit for things he has actually shown while in the octagon.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
Carwin is a Purple Belt in BJJ I believe. Half his wins are by submission.
Carwin has wrestling we know that. That can’t be denied. Dave Meltzer wrote an article not too long ago about people who had seen Carwin’s wrestling and his fights and basically talked about how good it was. Plus his collegiate credentials speak for themselves. We know he has wrestling.
I’m not trying to discredit Lesnar. But I am pointing out the obvious in that he is a rookie who is still very inexperienced. Brock has great wrestling and is a very big and insanely strong man. He uses that to his advantage and it works. Simple and effective. Like I wrote before, I think Lesnar is a beast, and honestly only think Carwin or Fedor would have a chance at beating him.
"I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13
Nevertheless what Mur said does sound ridiculous . If he’s trying to say that Carwin is more well rounded than Lesnar then fine . But trying to suggest that Carwin is better than Brock or a ‘better version’ is stupid , we have no reason to believe that’s true. In his only fight against a top opponent Carwin looked extremely vulnerable.
I think Mir is just trying to hype up his next fight which is fine , I don’t think he thinks for a minute Carwin is better than Lesnar or a better version(whatever that means). This is mma , no one measures “well roundedness” here , we put two guys in a cage and the better man wins . Anderson Silva isn’t that well rounded , his wrestling is poor . So ? He still destroys anyone he faces.
If we look at what these guys done lately Lesnar is definitely looking to be the best .
Not to nit-pick but there is no evidence that Anderson's wrestling is poor.
Ask Nate or Hendo about how poor his wrestling is.
People get this idea that Anderson’s ground game is weak because he rarely allows fights to go or stay there.
yea…anderson silva is a BJJ black belt
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions
Shooting on Anderson Silva usually results in reconstructive surgery. That’s as good a wrestling defence as you’ll ever need!
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
this is true
if someone is to get Silva down it might be b/c they wrap him up and throw him down; shooting on him not so good
then again
wrapping up with him is not so good either, at least that’s what Franklin tells me
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 15, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Hendo took him down . Travis Lutter took him down . I think Leites too (never saw that fight actually) . Maybe poor is a strong word but obviously his wrestling isn’t his best attribute .
Well he openly hates Brock for one. And two, hyping Carwin as a Brock clone sets him up quite nicely for a huge payday against Brock. Methinks you might be getting a little too worked up about this.
by Neil Manich on Dec 14, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions
Worked up?
Haha.. Okay guy..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 15, 2009 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
Thing is
…we should all accept that Mir is gonna hype this fight and make himself a shit-ton of cash if it comes to fruition. He has never been out head-hunting for Carwin, so we know who Mir thinks is better. He’s just gonna hype a fight and make himself mad coin. I gots no beef wit dat.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 15, 2009 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
no...
I’ll probably get a sarcastic/upset remark about it… But you and UFC4 obviously take offense to anything Mir says, or anything Anti-Brock. I’m not saying its right or wrong, but its also pretty obvious…. Just like its obvious I’m a Mir/BJ fan (tho I’m not nearly as active in BE’s community)…. mythbuster isn’t a Brock fan… and MMASupremacy is Pro- Anything not UFC…
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
If this fight comes to fruition Mir better hope that Carwin isn’t a better version of Brock.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 14, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
If Carwin it a
better version of Brock, then it’s gonna be a short night for Mir, some where around 3 minutes I guess.
How long before Mir’s compliments turn to derisive criticism of Carwin’s game?
Although, in typical Mir fashion, he paid Carwin a compliment while putting down Lesnar.
Being overrated is overrated.
Until someone has to sell the fight. I like Carwin, but his ultra nice guy thing only works with casual fans if his opponent plays the heel.
I bet Mir is thinking that someone else should fight Brock first because he will likely be rusty and lose his first fight back regardless. Brock would then become extra determined and double down on his training to get back to where he was pre-sickness or better and then Mir would want to fight him even though it’s not for the belt.
by Polyh3dron on Dec 14, 2009 10:48 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If that were the case then why would it make sense to potentially set himself up to be Brock’s first fight back by fighting the guy who would otherwise be his first fight back?
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Dec 14, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
Mir, Cain, Shane, JDS, Brock… Fedor where da fuk you at?
Mir’s excellent performance the other day reminded me of how foolish those who pondered Fedor going to strikeforce not being “so bad”… stating “If you take Brock out of the picture there’s not that much of a difference” by my naive little USA today friend.
Brock so far is out of the Picture and Mir, Cain, Shane and JDS are epic fights for Fedor… Instead we have werdum to look forward to.
by mmalogic on Dec 14, 2009 11:19 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Meh'd
Werdum and Mir pose the same problems to Fedor, other than Werdum having much better defense on the ground. Shane’s best attribute so far in MMA (power punching) is equaled or bettered by Brett Rogers. Cain has awesome takedowns but is no stronger or more credentialed of a wrestler than Daniel Cormier or King Mo. On the feet, he’s still crazy rudimentary, and he’s not a big HW either. Dos Santos is still real young and gaining experience, and while he might have the hands to do what Arlovski was before he picked that bouquet of oopsy daisies, I think Fedor would tool all over him in the clinch and on the ground. Either way, Overeem has better striking and BJJ credentials. So yeah, not a hugely significant difference in competition.
eh, honestly I think Mir has better striking than Werdum, and while Werdum is an outstanding grappler I guess MIr is prolly the stronger guy while still being stellar on the mat
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 15, 2009 5:09 AM EST up reply actions
Wercum and Mir pose the same problems to Fedor? first their different type of grapplers… second, Mir just dropped a guy who Cro-cop couldn’t do shit against (crocop being Fedors toughest opponent to date). Mir has a much better resume than anyone Fedor has fought besides Nog. Mir has defeated Nog, Tim Sylvia and Brock. Werdum hasn’t beaten anybody of note.
Carwin would have pounded Fedors face through the mat in top position. Brett Rogers is a journeyman who gassed after 1 round.
Comparing King Mo and Cromier to Cain is laughable.
JDS destroyed Werdum and Crocop…. Overeem hasn’t beaten anybody in MMA and has been beaten by werdum, shogun (twice), chuck, Kharitonov (twice), etc…
So yeah, your comparisons are weak.
Fedor fighting werdum before fighting Brock, Carwin, Mir, Cain, JDS is like GSP fighting Dustin Hazelett instead of first fighting FItch, Alves, Hughes, Koschek, etc… It’s like BJ penn fighting marcus aurellio instead of fighting sherk, florian, diego and joe daddy.
Fedor fighting Overeem is like Anderson Silva fighting Manhoef (a guy who’s had success in K-1 but hasnt done shit in MMA) before fighting Rich Franklin, Hendo, Nate Marquart, Vitor Belfort, etc… It would be like Brock fighting Semmy Shilt (another guy who hasnt done shit in MMA but has done well in K-1) instead of first fighting Carwin, Mir, Cain, JDS, Nog, etc…
So yeah, there’s a significant difference.
by mmalogic on Dec 15, 2009 6:13 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Mir had some good wins lately but also had terrible losses in his career . He got TKO’ed by Brandon Vera . Kongo is just a mid level fighter who lost to Herring however Mir looked very good against him , yet he looked terrible against Lesnar . Both Couture and Herring looked much better against Lesnar than Mir . Yet Mir has a win over Nogueira who beat Couture :)
Indeed there are many questions , until Fedor fights in the UFC or we see some crossover (for example Brett Rogers goes to the UFC) we can’t really know.
I don’t know that Carwin is better than Rogers like you suggested , how can u ascertain that?
Mir was in a life ending motorcycle accident the fact that he can still walk is astonishing. His losses when he came back are understandable as he was just collecting a paycheck. Brock was a real loss. Mir has beaten Nog, Tim Sylvia and Brock… I would put Frank behind Nog and Fedor with the best wins in the game.
But that’s besides the point… the question is simple:
Fedor vs Frank Mir?
or
Fedor vs Werdum?
Which fight is more exciting? Which fight will open with a closer betting line? The answer isnt even close.
Fedor vs Carwin
Fedor vs Cain
Fedor vs JDS
compare any of those to Fedor vs Werdum… and it’s like GSP, instead of fighting FItch, Alves, Hughes, Koschek he fought Dustin Hazelett.
Overeem? It’s like Anderson Silva, instead of fighting and beating Hendo, Franklin, Nate, and Belfort first he fights Manhoef instead.
by mmalogic on Dec 15, 2009 9:20 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Okay
Mir’s in shape and didn’t get hit against Congo. Carwin was training for his original fight with Lesnar before Brock got sick. I say put Carwin/Mir on 108 because that card is ailing.
Carwin has already said he can’t be ready that quickly, no reason this fight couldn’t take place on 109 or 110 though.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
After UFC 107, besides the question of who BJ Penn should fight next, some also questioned who Frank Mir should fight next. Carwin makes a lot of sense actually even though the winner of Dos Santos/Yvel and Nogueira/Velasquez works too, I personally think a Mir vs Carwin fight would be the best choice for those two. With all these Heavyweight fights coming up though and with Mir wanting his shot and Carwin supposed to be the next contender, after the dust settles, who gets Brock then?
It’s amazing how the heavyweight division is now the most exciting… in what other division do we have the following type of contenders?
Carwin, Mir, the winner of Nog vs Cain and JDS. This is unreal… The closest comparison I can think of is the old pride days but with much bigger and better athletes now.
The heavyweight division is taking over the light heavy as the premiere division in the UFC. It’s becoming the most marketable and most purchased as well.
by mmalogic on Dec 15, 2009 1:12 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
All of this time off from Brock is helping
that situation, no question. If he’d fought Carwin and won, the speculation and interest would not be as high today as it is, because as it stands now we kind of put Mir/Carwin/Cain/Nog into a four-way tie for ability, with JDS not far from them. This delay, while not necessarily a good thing in the immediate future, is most certainly allowing all of these other contenders to make their own cases for why they deserve a shot at the title.
The HW division is soon to become a serious meat grinder, though. They need to be able to schedule Brock’s return so these guys don’t just cannibalize all of the good press and anticipation by pulverizing each other. It would be a shame to waste the unexpected windfall they’ve all gotten here.
There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt.
If Nog comes out on top it’ll really seem like ole’ PRIDE days.
It will be unfortunate for the UFC if Lesnar is out more than 6 or 7 months. He was probably responsible for more new fans than all the other fighters combined. Plus his absence has got to hurt ppv buys. The guy was guaranteed 1 mil +.
by John Nash on Dec 15, 2009 2:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
'Absolutely'
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Dec 15, 2009 4:45 AM EST up reply actions
no he doesn't.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Mir will beat Carwin.
I’m not jumping on the Shane train like everyone else has.Who has he beat to be mentioned in the top of the hw rankings.He was in trouble with Gonzaga until he landed that lucky bomb.If Mir keeps up his new strenth and conditioning program he is on his way back to the belt.
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All the light that Diegos cries bring into life.Will fade when Bj's punches fly.
Bj Penn
I disagree with a lot of post’s pertaining to this possible match up ……. I think Mir has the obvious advantage against Carwin in both experience and skillset.
True Carwin has enormous power but I think Mir’s experience more than cancels that out and Mir has shown in his 2 most recent bouts that he too has some pop in his strikes.
If it happens I think it will be gr8 match up of two of the biggest and most powerful skilled HW’s in the world and I like both fighters but if I were to pick a winner imo I’d pick Frank Mir based on all the above.
by twodragunns on Dec 15, 2009 9:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
This would be such an awesome fight. I would love to see these two get into a ground war but I have a sneaking suspicion that if they were to fight, it would probably turn into a kickboxing/boxing match with Mir probably winning it.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Cain couldn’t finish Kongo and had him in trouble a number of times.Mir demolished him in under 2 mins.Put together the top names that Cain,Carwin and Jds have beaten and they still dont compare to the names that mir has and people are still hating on my boy.Not to long ago they were calling him the phenom of thge hw division.So what he’s cocky I would rather a fighter believe in himself then to down his abilitys.
All the light that Diegos cries bring into life.Will fade when Bj's punches fly.
Bj Penn
I agree,,,,
Mir could beat Carwin, Lesnar, and Fedor in succession and still wouldn’t get his due. Somebody would get inside information that Carwin had an ingrown toe nail, Brock never fully recovered from his sickness, and Fedor had a short-circuit in his cyborg body that caused him to not perform to 100 percent.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Better Alternative
I think this is a better alternative ultimately than Carwin v Lesner. I don’t think Mir has raised himself to the level yet to do Mir Lesner III and this will help ticket sales for Carwin if he wins and then fights Lesner.
Also, while Mir’s performance was great against Kongo, it is only impressive in its speed. He caught Kongo and choked out someone with no ground game. Mir punching Lesner would be like a bee sting on that behemoth.
Also, Carwin needs to learn when to use “then” and “than.” It is “sooner THAN later” and “more THAN Tyson.” I guess punching ability doesn’t get you A’s in grammar.
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