Snapshot of the Day: Diego Sanchez's Fight Ending Cut on UFC 107
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 13, 2009 1:15 PM EST
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"In 10 years of being in this business, I don’t know if I’ve ever seen anybody more busted up than Diego is right now. His whole lip is split open in half, in two different places. When I say split open, it’s torn down to this stuff down here (indicating a point on his chin). His forehead is as open as [Marvin Eastman] the kid that Vitor Belfort kneed [at UFC 43]. They pulled that thing wide open. His face? I think his nose is broken. I don’t even know how Diego kept coming forward. He’s a tough kid, man. I’m almost positive his nose was broken by the third round. That Tony Robbins [expletive] works."
--Dana White, talking about the damage Diego Sanchez received from BJ Penn on the UFC 107 Post-Fight Press Conference.
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Diego
Got Wrecked. He only had 3 moves the whole fight, head kick, 1-2 punch combo and the “grab BJ’s leg and get punched/elbowed” move that he tried 16 times.
by Brian Hemminger on Dec 13, 2009 6:37 AM EST reply actions
I haven't seen a beating that bad in a while...
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
Elin vs Tiger
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 13, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
hahahahaahaha. on point. did you read the simmon’s article on it yesterday?
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
it was on friday, my mistake. espn.com, bill simmons… worth a read
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think that Diego even had a gameplan for this fight
One thing that stood out to me was that Diego is a southpaw, but he comes forward in a straight line (no angle) when he strikes making it very easy for BJ to utilize a counter-right straight (which if I’m not mistaken, was the punch that dropped Diego in round 1). Pushing BJ against the cage and trying to take BJ down with a single is also not something that works on him as shown with the Florian fight (unless you are GSP). The only thing that worked (kind of) for Diego was the left high kick. It makes me wonder if a kick-based strategy similar to what Shogun utilized on Machida would be effective on BJ (of course, BJ would probably counter, and that strategy only works for points).
the push to the fence is never the gameplan, it just happens when fighters feel what bj can do to them with punches
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
If anything, you’ve gotta give Diego credit for being one tough SOB. I don’t know of another fighter who could’ve taken that kind of punishment and kept coming.
That being said, can anyone truly challenge BJ Penn at 155? I’m beginning to think the answer is a resounding “No.”
But if you are stupid, you will be beaten with a stick - Proverbs 10:13
Holy crap. I secretly thought that BJ was overrated. Not after that fight. Diego didn’t stand a chance.
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
i think if bj gains some weight
a third in the gsp/ penn trilogy is warranted
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t really think so, but if he wants to try again, I don’t see why not. I think if he does try for a third shot at GSP he should vacate the LW belt, and fight a few contenders at WW first.
If.. err.. I mean after he beats Maynard and Edgar, I wouldn’t mind seeing him just move to WW. If he can get through Alves or Fitch, let’s see BJ vs. GSP III. I knew BJ was the king of 155lbs, but before last, I didn’t think I’d ever say that.
I almost feel like match-ups against Maynard and Edgar are pointless with how we’ve seen BJ go through Stevenson, Sherk, Florian, and now Sanchez. Maynard will likely fare no better in taking down Penn than his other challengers, and as we’ve seen in Edgar’s fights, a strong grappler can control him. It’s not that they’re not good, championship level fighters, it’s that BJ really seems to be on a whole other level to the rest of the LWs out there right now. If BJ decided to just move up to WW now after this fight, I don’t know who could blame him.
i think we can compare that domination rationally to silva/griffin
its just that diego has a better chin. bj is on a completely other level, but so is gsp. I think that BJ in the WW weight class would enable us to sort out the fitch/koscheck situation, and also pose a credible opponent to alves… hell i’d even like to see AJohnson vs BJ for no real reason.
If Aldo begins to dominate the 145 division… and i mean that i want to see him beat faber and i’d love to see a superfight with torres… i would like to see him possibly fight BJ. Aldo is by far the fastest striker i’ve seen, and he’s so young that i think within two years he’s going to have had put on some man weight… and bj would only be 33, still within his peak physical years. I think that would be an incredible fight
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks Torres would...
get badly destroyed by Aldo?
The power in Aldo’s striking game combined with Torres willingness to take shots just adds up to a spectacularly short fight to me.
Torres would lose via Blitzkrieg to Aldo
Walking the line between intelligence and ignorance since 1985
@deowade
Edgar and Maynard seem to be the concensus contenders
Let them rematch, winner faces Penn. if Penn can beat that winner, I’d be fine with him vacating the belt, adding some weight the RIGHT way, and working up the WW ladder to face GSP again. WW is getting stagnant, Penn would shake things up nicely.
Sure, Diego isn't an elite figher, but...
Sure, Diego is a little overrated, but this was more the proof of just how dominate BJ really is. I personally think it’s awesome to see a great champion show everyone just how dominate he really is. These are the best fighters in the world, and he makes them look awful. BJ, GSP and Silva are really on another level from everybody, including Fedor. These guys don’t lose rounds; they dictate everything that happens in their fights; the never get pushed around.
I like that BJ fights with a controlled mean streak. In round 5 you could just see something switch on and you knew he was going to put Diego away. That’s what Silva should’ve done to that guy who laid on his back and cried (the fighter who’s no longer worth naming…at least Forrest stood up and took his beating like a man).
On an aside, I think this is my new all-time favorite Danaism:
“I’m almost positive his nose was broken by the third round. That Tony Robbins [expletive] works.”
Not sure why you threw this in there
BJ, GSP and Silva are really on another level from everybody, including Fedor.
Give Fedor some credit. He’s beaten plenty of significant HW and has never really lost. Many argue Fedor isn’t even a true HW.
I think the point he was getting at was that those guys absolutely control the fight not losing rounds and remaining totally dominant throughout the fight
Total Masterful Domination by Penn
I thought Brents prediction of Penn by TKO in the 1st was gonna come true there for a sec. lol I wonder where Diego goes from here? Maybe do some training with GSP on those takedowns.
BJ is KING at 155lb. That is all.
BTW all my predictions came true! =)
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Depends on what game plan he comes with
If it’s the Keith Florian hump the leg special, then no…. I’d rather watch my dog hump my leg…at least it’s free
are you serious Kenny is not the same fighter he was in the first match his stand up is miles ahead of where it used to be but just because diego wasn’t able to get the takedown on BJ doesn’t mean he won’t be able to on Kenflo and Diego’s impressive top game was how he dominated him so easily the first fight all in all I say it makes for a good fight
I'd love to see Kenny get another shot too, but...
he needs a couple more fights to not only justify it, but to also work more on his tools and plan.
he means with Diego I think
I can die happy now that I've been to a UFC event. 107 rocked
by slapjaw ackrite on Dec 14, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Cool, I was 4-1 on the main card as far as predictions go(I thought Buentello would get the nod from the judges). The Fitch fight went more or less predictably, as did Mir. What surprised me the most was Ken-Flo finishing Guida, and Diego being cut. I thought Sanchez and Guida would at least go the distance in defeat.
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I heard Tiger Woods was sexting Diego…
Wait, what?
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Dec 13, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions
I only want see BJ move up if he does it right
aka.. take a lot of time off. Put on muscle… not just get chubby and not cut weight.
THIS!
Mauricio Shogun Rua #1 LHW in the World. The TRUE Champion.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Dec 13, 2009 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. Let him vacate the LW belt, let them have a mini-tourney or something to sort out the title picture there, and let BJ take some time to put on the weight for 170 the right way. Maybe let him coach a season of TUF opposite Matt Hughes to give him time and build up his return to WW.
http://www.MMArmy.com/home.php?refer=member_5806
I gots to mention a few things.....
I said from the day this match was made that I believed that Kenny Florian was a more complete fighter than Sanchez. And last night proved it in many ways. The BJ/Florian fight was much more competitive until the untimely end. Florian pretty well easily out hustled and then stopped Guida when Sanchez could not.
But to those who thought Diego unworthy because of the way the match went. Go cry about it. Because the fact is Sanchez had 25 tough fights. He was never stopped or submitted before last night. He only lost twice to Fitch and Koscheck(in tough battles that went to decision). He just ran into an elite fighter. As I have said from the beginning, the only one that can truly beat BJ Penn is himself.
All things being said I think that Gray Maynard gets the next shot. It will be a harder fight for BJ but with the same outcome. After that, I don’t see any reason to keep fighting the lightweights if I am BJ. But if he moves up again, he needs to do it proper and not just come in at walk around weight, build the shoulders and thighs up slowly.
by SimplePsych on Dec 13, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Irony
It was pure irony that diego was fighting his clear better and Guida was fighting Florian at the same time. After the Guida v. Sanchez fight, it was dramatic how different two fighters react when they come into the cage truly believing they can win vs. being star struck. Sanchez looked defeated after the first round. Guida the same. Both were disgustingly bloody at the end. The same fighters that gave us an amazing fight not to long ago.
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can help me out:
Who was in BJ’s corner – other than Rudy Valentino – the guy who said stuff like “keep touching him” etc., and did most of the talking b/w rounds?
Just curious.
That Tony Robbins [expletive] works.
If it works, why isn’t Diego champ?
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions
because diego sanchez + tony robbins =/= bj penn + marv marinovich
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions
Give Diego a break.
BJ has a way of breaking all of his opponents physically and spiritually. He made Florian Stevenson and Sherk look just as bad. So why does a totally game-hearted Diego get the riot act? BJ is insanely talented. Of course Diego’s entire game got shut down.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
Disagree
Diego hasn’t looked like his former self after the back-to-back losses to Kos & Fitch. He used to be a monster, then beat an overmatched Bielkheden & fat Fiorivanti, then dropped to LW, where he couldn’t put away Stevenson and barely beat Guida. He seems to have lost his power and in-fight intensity. He’s not the same guy anymore that ripped through Karo, Diaz, and Riggs.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
At the very least, Diego is still the best, toughest kind of canvas for an elite fighter to paint with blood. He’s got a lot of heart, doesn’t give up, and has great ability to recover from big shots. He’s still one of the best lightweights, BJ’s just awesome at every facet of MMA. There are probably many flaws in Diego’s game people will hit on, but I think the biggest one is tied to his intensity. He just seems so tense, single-minded and mechanical, both in his striking and grappling. Occasionally he overwhelm a guy that way, but it leaves him slower, tighter and more predictable in his striking and reaction times then he could be. The yoga ain’t workin’.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Dec 13, 2009 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2009 4:47 PM EST reply actions
from that angle diego clearly knows that he is very badly hurt right away
by Austin Martin on Dec 13, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
Ouch!
His face looks like a horror movie. Oh, and that was what most people would call getting schooled. BJ is a monster at 155, so the question is, who’s next?
by JustinWF on Dec 13, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Diego post-fight
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 13, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Protecting Your Fighter In MMA?
Halfway thru Round 4 last night I wondered aloud if Diego’s corner was going to let him answer the bell for Round 5 and got little to no reaction from those around me. I think it’s the responsibility of the cornermen/coaches to protect their fighter’s future and considering by that stage Diego had no chance of winning that fight on points or stoppage, his corner made a huge error. When BJ’s brother made the call to throw in the towel during BJ/GSP II, it made a ton of sense to me. Why let it continue? In boxing, it’s acceptable to throw in the towel to protect the fighter’s future and I think it’s strange we don’t see it more often in MMA.
Of course, I understand in MMA the fight can turn at any moment, but in instances like last night’s fight shouldn’t a cornerman be thinking about the next fight, too? Diego’s guys let him answer the bell for Round 5 and now this really talented young fighter will probably never be the same guy as a result.
Diego Sanchez's Changing Mean-Face
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by Scott C. Broussard on Dec 13, 2009 6:14 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
awesome
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 13, 2009 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
Diego looks like he was in a car crash or took some bird shot to the face.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
At least it’s not Lybia’s flag. They are definetly compensating for something.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
How am I going to have another bet with you if you'll now be rooting for your fellow Filipinos as well?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 13, 2009 7:15 PM EST up reply actions
Wanderlei Silva/Michale Bisping?
I has Bisping.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
I don't like that bet. haha..
Wand kinda sucks.. and bisping’s chin maybe in question.. I got Rashad TKO-ing Thiago on the second round.. What about you?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 13, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
I got Rahshaaaaad too.
Lauzon
The Janitor
JDS
McLovin
Sherk
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
would you like to bet against your fellow Filipino?
haha. I got Munoz gnp-ing Ryan Jensen..
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 14, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions
Bet against a hot shot prospect who is being rebuilt?
Go home Anton.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
Well at least you think he's hot..
Pogi might be the better term to use since you’re a Filipino now. ;)
We have similar picks, so it’s hard to bet on that card.. I don’t like Hazelett’s chances against Daley, but he’s one of my favorite fighters, so I will not bet against him.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 14, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions
Vera Lil Nog?
I don’t like Vera’s chances there either cause Nog is a much much better boxer, but I still won’t bet against him..
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 14, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
Totally on for that, Vera is getting shitkicked.
Keep firing Assholes!
Fedor has accomplished nothing until he fights Kimbo.
I kinda also think he will get beat up bad...
The only chance I see Vera winning is by a close decision, cause I doubt he can stop Nog, plus nog has very dangerous hands…but hey, betting on it makes things more interesting…
Not that we need it, cause this guy will fight Vera for sure..
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 14, 2009 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Wand kinda sucks..
Take that back right now!
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Dec 14, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
Wand REALLY sucks?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 14, 2009 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Diego is tough though to stay in there like that after all that punishment
He probably never really recovered right from the first knockdown.
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