Snapshot of the Day: RVCA Banned by UFC
by Nick Thomas on Dec 10, 2009 7:04 PM EST
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Nothing like treating your customers to a typo.
And here’s BJ’s official walkout shirt:
http://www.shopbjpenn.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=137
Can CageFighter change their crappy logo already?/?
BOO!
Looks like the CFL forgot the “L”.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 11, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
Poor BJ.
and poor RVCA, they only really sponsor him and Fedor.
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That’s a loss. RVCA represents a major opportunity to cross pollinate the UFC brand with surf, music, and various other counter-culture communities where the brand is super popular.
I guess we’ll just stick with skulls and chains in the sport.
by casey manrique on Dec 10, 2009 8:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why didn’t he just put the belt over his left shoulder?
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 10, 2009 7:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Because when seated fielding questions..
the belt is on the table, not his shoulder, and thus the RVCA logo would be visible in still photographs and and filmed segments.
by VikingPhotography on Dec 10, 2009 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
It was a poor attempt at humor.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 10, 2009 7:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Something along those lines.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 10, 2009 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In all fairness
it was past midnight here when I replied, and I’d only gotten three hours sleep the previous night – sublte humour was lost on me at that point :)
by VikingPhotography on Dec 11, 2009 5:17 AM EST up reply actions
I didn't see the Countdown...
but blurring a logo like that is very time consuming and depending where they online (create the final master) the show it could potentially be very expensive.
I see this in some very shitty shows where that’s basically the only SFX they can produce. You’re sure it’s so expansive it’s worth mentioning?
"You talk too much, too much, too much..."
Yes.
I work with many Online artists. Their time is very expensive. Again, I did not see the show so I am unaware how many scenes would need to be cleaned up. If it was a lot of shots with a lot of movement it would definitely be time consuming. It’s not too hard, anyone with some FCP knowledge could do it, but these shows are finished on Flames or some other high end machines. You also have to think about deadlines. My bad in making it seem like it was too expensive to do that. It just might not of been worth it for them to spend the extra money or the extra time just to blur out a logo.
damn, that’s harsh
a ban just for sponsoring Fedor
a connection to genocide and nazi racism only gets banned after uproar, but a connection to a good fighter that didn’t sign with UFC seems to get a bigger reaction from zuffa
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions 11 recs
Totally lame. RVCA is the only MMA sponsor I would even remotely consider wearing.
by goodbones on Dec 10, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
yea, the shirt displayed lower (not the one Penn is wearing) is kinda cool. It would be nice to have more mma shirts that doesn’t look like a dragon threw up on them.
"A champion is someone who gets up when he can't." - Jack Dempsey
by JeremyShane on Dec 10, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nothing is more ugly than an Affliction shirt, except maybe a guido in an Affliction shirt.
by ChillMike on Dec 10, 2009 7:45 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
why?
Anyone know why they banned RVCA? I wonder what they’re going to do about his fight shorts he always rocks those RVCA black belt fight shorts.
by shortnorthjacket on Dec 10, 2009 7:15 PM EST reply actions
I’m a little disappointed that BJ didn’t just wear the stuff (uncovered) anyway. What are they going to do? Fire him? Pout about it?
I’m about 99% certain that something like that would cost him a percentage of his purse, don’t think it’s worth being a rebel to lose thousands of dollars.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 10, 2009 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
RVCA, Strikeforce, and M-1 should pony up the money and pay him to do it. Just to be dicks. I love watching grown men behave like 10-year-olds.
Do you suppose that’s written into their contract? Because otherwise I don’t see how Zuffa could just withhold purse money. Withhold post-fight bonuses, sure, but deny him part of his contracted money to show and/or win? Could they really do that?
This whole story is ridiculous
I was really hoping BJ would wear his RVCA shirt anyway, but whatever. This is just Dana being Dana.
was just reading this...
http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/12/9/1193278/b-j-penn-doesnt-care-about-zuffas
wonder what’ll happen if he tries to wear the walk out short anyway.
Here is more on this story I wrote about a month ago...
Its a very good read:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/11/17/1162358/clinch-gear-and-rvca-respond-to
I know the UFC met with RVCA around UFC 106, but I guess they haven’t worked out their differences yet.
I understand the UFC is at war with Strikeforce and they’re doing everything in their power to punish them for signing Fedor, and everything is fair play in business (which a false statement), and all that other crap. But at this point are they really hurting CBS and Strikeforce? It seems more likely they would be hurting their own fighters than Strikefarce. Now for about the same price as they were paying before RVCA and Clinch Gear are going to be the exclusive gear of Strikeforce because every other manufacturer is going to be afraid to cross Zuffa. They’re getting a great deal: sole sponsors for the a smaller price. I think Zuffa would be better off just worrying about putting on great shows and let us the consumers and the marketplace decide. They can’t possible be afraid of such lesser competition?
Ironically, RVCA looks like they spell on their Fedor shirt with electrical tape anyway….
by TLow on Dec 10, 2009 10:01 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And yet....
I would still pay 50 more dollars to by this shirt than an UFC Affliction shirt.
The first few times I saw this shirt I was thinking this. After seeing if for 5+ times it has really started to grow on me. It’s really fits Fedor really well and t-shirts are meant to be simple in my opinion.
Definitely looks better than most afflicition shirts. Maybe its even the best of the MMA shirts, and a pretty cool design. But its still 50$…
he was wearin RVCA at the open workout.
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Since they are his main sponsors, he will wear it everywhere until the UFC tells him to cover it up. Doubt he would wear it during UFC 107.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 10, 2009 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously, I hate wearing brand logos plastered on my clothes. I only wear band shirts or stuff with personal meaning/messages
i hate being a walking billboard (and specially, I hate paying to be a walking billboard). I even unsew all logo patches from my BJJ gi, but. I’m gonna buy the shirt just because of this stupid ban
this is childish and pointless
Anti-trust
Clearly Dana White does not understand the concept of anti-trust. They already have a basic lawsuit. What is hilarious is that RUCA is one of the only legitimate sponsors the UFC has and he bans it over Fedor. I am sure Dana will replace that with a nice Condom Depot sponsorship.
Not saying that Hendo made a good decision, but the fighter’s do have a choice and they will move away from the UFC fast if there is a promotion that offers national TV, real sponsorships and fair pay. I still think it is mindblowing that some of these fighters who make the main card make like $7,000 for a fight. Considering they can’t fight every day, that means they can make more money with less costs working as a teacher. Not a good way to promote the best competition.
The ufc does offer real sponsorships such as Tapout, Silverstar, Sinister brand (not so much any more i dont think), Affliction, and a host of others. As for the 7k to fight on the main card what do you think the same fighters would make in SF? SF isnt going to pay them huge amounts of money and if they get a few wins under their belt or put on constant exciting fights they will work their way up the ladder and get big paydays.
I have a feeling
That in time, BJ will also join strikeforce. Hopefully. Dana just can’t stop being a dick.
by ontite on Dec 10, 2009 8:52 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Also, why is no one talking about the fact that BJ looks like he hates his life right now? Granted he was dominated by GSP, but he just looks like Prince did before he changed his name to “The artist formerly known as Prince” and tattooed “Slave” on his cheek.
BJ just looks like he is done with the UFC and he is fighting his remaining fights. Does anyone else get that vibe?
That's a "vibe"?
I don’t see how you can derive that from anything he’s done lately. You just look at his face and it says “Strikeforce”?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I thought it said “Fuck I wish I could beat GSP”.
by John Nash on Dec 10, 2009 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Bj won't join Strikeforce
because he wants to fight the best. In the past the only reason he left the UFC was for a greater challenge. Bj’s greatest challenge is still in the UFC. Georges.
ridiculous
BJ will take a pay cut and a drop in competition even though he’s already dominating in the ufc?
whaaaa?
This doesn't count
He is wearing an RVCA shirt.
by TLow on Dec 10, 2009 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I just don’t think BJ will take crap from Dana. He already looks like he’s not too happy. Dana banning his favorite sponsors is not cool.
Hopefully, he jumps on the bandwagon and joins strikeforce. UFC hasn’t had any competition since pride, and it would be amazing if strikeforce does it.
Right- because it was awesome when the top talent was split into halves.
by BilboMcFonzie on Dec 10, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I totally enjoy
debating about the winners of fights that will never happen.
Who is top talent in the UFC that BJ hasn't beat?
I’m pretty sure he isn’t going to get another shot at GSP.
BJ’s family was already well off well before the UFC came along.
There is good competition anywhere at lightweight division, it’s stacked. I would even offer its better outside the UFC for BJ in that he’s cleared out the competition within it.
I don’t necessarily see him leaving again, but I wouldn’t count on him doing the same as Dan and leaving just cause he feels disrespected.
BJ has a past track record of not fighting for money, but for respect. BJJ, K-1, Gomi, he has never turned down a fight of a top contender for a money fight. He like Fedor, GSP, Hendo, legitimize the sport. They have great value outside the UFC.
For starters Bj is a UFC staple much like Hughes, Couture, and GSP and will get treated accordingly. Henderson as much as i love hendo was not and is not seen as a UFC staple. Henderson is a vet and has acomplished just as much as BJ but isnt the face of UFC such as BJ. Guys like BJ will be looked after forever by the UFC much like chuck.
Also champions clause
Dana
If Dana is so effin confident about his company then why does he have all of these stupid rules and crap. He pisses me off sometimes.
Shut up, Tito.
by TruthSeeker1223 on Dec 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Mommy!
“Someone else is playing in my sandbox!” – Dana White
by exsanguinator on Dec 10, 2009 10:12 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The sweater is a bastard, it has no brand, so you cannot ban it.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Dec 11, 2009 1:56 AM EST up reply actions
That sweater should be banned as a performance enhancing supplement. No steroid can match its track record
by TLow on Dec 11, 2009 2:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dont order UFC because of Dana
Not to beat a dead horse because I’ve written about this before. But I feel I should take every opportunity that Dana acts like a petulant child who could give a rats ass about mma and repeatedly shows that he only cares about his revenues, even at a cost to the sport.
Dana, stop claiming you’re about the sport.
I will never order UFC’s while Dana is employed by the UFC.
I haven’t ordered a ppv in 2 years and I know a lot of others who’ve done the same.
I haven’t missed it one bit. Once you stop buying the bait, you’ll see that Its 90% hype and bs and hardly ever worth the ppv price.
The UFC is over diluted, over hyped, over exposed.
Does NFL, NHL, NBA, Baseball, any other sport…only play teams that have the most ‘fans’ and/or revenue draw? Of course not. Because ‘sports’ are about competition to see who is the best at their sport. It’s not about who can get the most fans from their post fight speeches. Perfect example Dan Henderson. Screwed, disrespected and publicly jeered by Dana as not being a draw.
Competition of any given sport is not supposed to be about fan base.
Dana = Don King. And he is at this point, detrimental to the sport of mma, over his own greed.
Boycott Dana Whites spoiled child act and unfair bullshit by ceasing to order the UFC’s lame ass over-hyped wwe cards.
More and more fighters are going to jump ship. Just watch. Dana is losing it.
jiMMAy
not sure whether to laugh or scratch my head
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by Cory Braiterman on Dec 11, 2009 3:43 AM EST up reply actions
This is a really weird post
Frankly its just not possible to be an MMA fan without being a fan of the UFC. Even if you don’t always like the way they do business they have the majority of the best fighters and put on the majority of the best cards. Maybe this is what you mean when you say the UFC is over diluted.
Does NFL, NHL, NBA, Baseball, any other sport…only play teams that have the most ‘fans’ and/or revenue draw?
Yes the league decides where the teams are going to be placed based on predicted fan support and revenue potential. Teams that perform poorly in these areas might be moved or contracted.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
I’m a Texan and it’s in my blood to love Football, BUT not so much a fan of NFL. I’ve never paid to watch a game.
I’m a MMA fan and I’ve never watched a live UFC event. I’m not a fan of the UFC. I greatly respect Dana White as a businessman and for what he has done for MMA (far less than he thinks he has, far more than probably any other person), but I will doubt I will ever chance investing myself into his product.
guess that was unclear. Never watched a full UFC event while it has happened (free or PPV). It’s actually been a while since I watched a full UFC card also. That being said I’ve probably watched like 80% of UFC broadcast fights. Missed most of the TUF related stuff.
Some sports I enjoy different levels. College basketball and football are great. I really don’t care for most sports pro sports unless individual pay is mostly based on athletic merit not popularity.
So you are a big enough MMA fan to read down to the bottom of a comment section on an MMA website but not a big enough fan of MMA to spare some time to watch some of the top fighters fight even if its free?
Sounds to me like you are a fan of the internet my friend.
At least you won’t have to worry about RVCA being banned since they don’t make the 3 wolf moon shirt.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Dec 11, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
I am a fan of the internet ain’t going to argue that. Are the two mutually exclusive? I’m not sure of your point?
I’m more of a fan of participating or watching cheap live events.
UFC was in the PPV business and I certainly wasn’t a fan of paying for those. Now they probably more in the advertising revenue business and that is certainly a bane of most any internet fan.
you are missing out on some great MMA, meh your loss. I watch every thing that comes on that i can get (PPV or other wise) only thing i dont watch any more is the live dreams (awesome fights its nothing to do with the fighters) because the pacing was horrable the last time i watched it and the first affliction show was horrable. SF have a nice layout and clean production.
If the ufc dies i dont think MMA would die with it but it would take quite a hit
I’m sure Dana is quite saddened to hear this as he sits on his solid gold toilet stool wiping his ass with hundred dollar bills.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
by ufc4 on Dec 11, 2009 10:17 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Does NFL, NHL, NBA, Baseball, any other sport…only play teams that have the most ‘fans’ and/or revenue draw? Of course not. Because ‘sports’ are about competition to see who is the best at their sport. It’s not about who can get the most fans from their post fight speeches. Perfect example Dan Henderson. Screwed, disrespected and publicly jeered by Dana as not being a draw.
If you think sports are about the compeittion and seeing who is the best in their sport, you’re definitely living in some fantasy world. Professional sports are about money. That’s it. If a pro team is not generating enough revenue or drawing enough fans, then it inevitably gets sold and moved. In every sport, it’s about filling the seats and selling the merchandise. MMA is no different.
Continually posting about how much of a child Dana is and how he says stupid shit and does stupid shit is redundant. Yeah, we get it. Dana is a jerk. Now can we please move on and talk about something else?
Oh, and Dana is right: Hendo is not a draw.
I love me some Sexyama!
The funny thing about this is that people are so blinded by their UFC hate that they just can’t seem to function rationally. Remember when everyone swore that GSP was unhappy with Afflcition being banned and he was going to leave yeah that happened. BJ ain’t going nowhere the fact that anyone thinks that RVCA deserves somesort of magical exception that won’t have the UFC tell them to screw off is also funny. I wonder if it wasn’t for them sposoring Fedor would anyone actually give a damn about them being banned?. Yeah I doubt it.
If it weren't for Fedor, it would make no sense.
And this is a different situation because BJ is personal friends with the owners/management of RVCA. If a brand like Tapout (obviously not them, bear with me) who frequently signs fighters just to sign them got banned, that’s one thing. When it’s a brand that athletes have a personal or emotional tie with, then things get dicey.
I don’t think it’s likely for BJ to leave, but who knows? He’s done it before, and there isn’t really anyone in the UFC for him to duck. If he wants legacy he might take Dana’s advice and clean out a division. A division with Kawajiri, Aoki, Alvarez, JZ…
It’s a Latin thing.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
(which is weird since that sentence has the letter u in it).
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"BJ on the BE" - Kierkegaard
Worked for me
they are sold out of all sizes of the frost shirt but small, so it might have worked in RVCA’s favor. Although this type of extra press for getting banned will only last for this first time. It also had to help that they had that sweet Talking Heads commercial promoting it. Its a pretty cool company, how creative companies like this dont swoop in and put affliction and the rest out of business is beyond me, youd think more companies would want to tap into a market where the only thing you have to do to set yourself apart from the rest is not use glitter or skulls.
For those who still want that Frost t-shirt
RVCA’s online store has it in the larger sizes. Plus in Black or White.
Why?
Sponsors help support the growth of gyms and increase fighter pay many times over. The top draws in the WEC make more off of clothing sponsors than fight purse and bonuses. Regional guys make most of their cash through a combination of sponsors and selling tickets to their fights, not the promoters. An injured athlete can’t fight or be a sparring partner, and will rely on sponsorship money to support their family and pay bills until they are well enough to compete again. Without them, guys like Patrick Cote could actually lose their homes thanks to inactivity.
Its the only sport where this is such a big deal. And soon Im sure they will all have to wear UFC Authentic gear (by Tapout?) like the TUF guys. Maybe Im not one to get caught up in the ‘fight wear’ fashions (or spend 60 bucks for a T shirt.)
IMO, we spend too much time talking about what guys are wearing and not how they are fighting. This isnt the golden globes.
Over/Under
2 years until the UFC has “UFC Authentic Gear” that all fighters have to wear and all of this clothing line sponsorship stuff is old news?
Haha
I haven’t seen so many people venting about UFC and Dana White since… ever.
This is why i want Strikeforce to be at par with the UFC. Dana is a pompous jerk, he’s the bad guy of MMA promotions. And lately, things haven’t been working out for him. Hopefully, this is the beginning to something great. I don’t mind if the best fighters don’t meet in the ring, i just want Dana to lose his mind.
And lately, things haven’t been working out for him.
Yeah, things have been working out great for the UFC lately. I mean other than having to cancel Lesnar/Carwin, Anderson/Vitor, Rampage/Rashad, having Machida and GSP’s next title defenses pushed back due to inury, having to cancel a planned card for Ireland, and numerous other things over the last few months.
I don’t mind if the best fighters don’t meet in the ring, i just want Dana to lose his mind.
You obviously aren’t that big of an MMA fan then.
The only thing Jon Jones does better than Matt Hamill is hear.
(And smash faces)
You obviously aren’t that big of an MMA fan then.
Id counter that by saying a lot of MMA fans still want to see different styles go against each other as opposed to seeing two guys who know a little of everything. Most of those fights turn into bad kick boxing matches. Thats why a lot of the under card fights have some of the most exciting finishes and intriguing match ups. They are not as “well rounded”
IMO
by ryanwk628 on Dec 12, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
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