Will We See Josh Barnett vs Fedor Emelianenko if Strikeforce Can't Get Alistair Overeem?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 8:42 PM EST
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Scott Coker said that he would be announcing the signing of two new heavyweights soon. The most probable signee is Bobby Lashley. He has been in discussions with Strikeforce, and even said that it was just bad timing that didn't allow him to compete on the undercard of Fedor vs Rogers. The second heavyweight may very well be former UFC heavyweight champion, Andrei Arlovski, as he is said to be currently in talks to compete either at the "Strikeforce: Evolution" card this december, or if negotiations fall through, at one of the NYE shows in Japan.
But what about Josh Barnett? He isn't likely to be the immediate signee Coker was talking about, but I think he could be in the mix, as he has also been said to be in casual talks with the promotion:
"We have been in contact, but very loose contact, not serious contact, but he is something that would be interesting for sure... I think the California State Athletic Commission and Josh Barnett will work their issues out and once he's done that then maybe we will be a little more interested in Josh."
What's probably going to happen next for Strikeforce is that they set up Fedor vs Werdum as soon as Fedor recovers from his injuries. This, though, could take several months, which would make Emelianenko's third fight for the promotion right in time for Josh's return from his suspension.
Their obvious goal for Fedor's third bout with Strikeforce would be to set up the mega fight against "Megareem" on 2010, but with his return to America still unknown, Coker has stated that he isn't going to wait for him past the first quarter of the year. If pundits are right in saying that Alistair won't be coming back to America, picking up the pieces Affliction left behind would actually be a very good move for them. As much as I would love to see Alistair Overeem vs Fedor Emelianenko, setting up that "Dream Fight" between Barnett and Fedor would be the next best thing.
Will we see Josh Barnett vs Fedor Emelianenko in Strikeforce? I think it's too early to tell, but if they really can't get Overeem, I think we should see the match fans have waited for years.
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Fedor isn’t looking to head to Japan for New Year’s is he?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Getting in bed with M-1, getting in bed with WAMMA, cancelling fights, now possibly signing Barnett??
I get a bad feeling about the way things are going, especially if this somehow ends up being the case. They seem to be repeating a lot of Affliction’s mistakes, like they’re M-1’s new skin.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
the only difference though, is that they aren’t paying undercard fighters hundreds of thousands of dollars each. That’s the one that really hurt Affliction IMO.
(plus of course there were other dumb decisions they made)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Even so, they are ramping up their payroll and it’s something I’ve said from the beginning they need to avoid doing to any extreme length. These guys they’ve signed, and are rumored to be signing, are not cheap fighters. It feels like deja vu and I hope I’m wrong, but the M-1/WAMMA/cancelled fight stuff is undeniably happening right before our eyes.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
they're planning to get aoki too..
they’re expensive, but if they run things the right way, they could also be making bigger profits cause of those signings..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
No, no, no
Man, look back at everything we’ve been saying since they got the CBS deal and some of these talent acquisitions. This is not what they should be doing; they should be developing newer talent and getting guys that fit their previously successful monetary scheme. I’m not saying I don’t like to see them sign great fighters and put on great fights, but where is this going? How can they be financially successful? What’s to prevent a similar fate to that of EXC, Affliction or IFL? It seems that every promoter gets too full of their own shit and lets their organization spiral out of control, eventually consumed by the desire to compete with the UFC and get a piece of their pie.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
yep, i really get your point..
all im saying is that signing talented guys and knowing how to handle them properly, could also lead to profit. The others have tried, and failed, but maybe, SF could learn from Affliction’s mistakes and turn it around.. I’m not sure, but maybe they could do it.. maybe..
PS
IFL didn’t have expensive top guys, and elitexc’s mistakes were because they hinged on Kimbo..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:28 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t say anything about IFL’s payroll, but they tried and failed, much like the others.
And all of the things you’ve said sound eerily familiar. Of course it’s possible. Probable?
…….
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
i don't know also..
im hoping SF does good with the cards they have.. (or will have)…
although, i am also hoping Fedor goes to the UFC soon.. i’m not sure both of them can happen. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Look
I like SF and hope they continue to (begin to?) succeed, but I don’t know that they’re headed in the right direction. It’s too early to get all doom and gloom, so I’m not trying to come off like that. I just don’t like some of the things they’ve done that would have been entirely uncharacteristic of Coker and co in the past.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
It’s not like Strikeforce only has established fighters and no one else (like Affliction). Strikeforce has actually signed a good amount of up-and-coming fighters/prospects (one poster here had a fanpost with the list). Also, the Strikeforce Challengers Series is made to build up their prospects (Tim Kennedy already comes to mind). Personally, I have found that Strikeforce has NOT made the same mistakes as those past MMA organizations.
Err...
Except that it’s irrefutable, since I’ve named several of those same mistakes. I’m saying I don’t want them to make any more. They do have a lot of great young talent, but they’re starting to put a lot of their energy into the other end of the spectrum. They could suffer as a consequence of that.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
true..
IF you’re right and they do fail, I hope that Fedor, and maybe the top guys like Shields and Diaz (even Cung) goes to the UFC.. ;)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
I think Coker is the best guy for the job in a number two promotion, so I hope that they succeed, lest another org replace them a matter of months later.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Here’s my question- how much power does Coker have and how much does Showtime have now?
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 9:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I have no idea
You can attribute that to my list of worries.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Showtime has all the power… that’s why some of these moves are really uncharacteristic of Scott.
Showtime is handing strikeforce alot of liabilities without ultimately being responsible for them,
It’s like the banks gambling with our assets and then not having to risk anything when the shit hits the fan.
Showtime’s mandatory obligations are extremely low… If one day Scott is stuck with all these contracts and showtime decides they don’t want to do more than what is mandatory of them then he’s fucked.
Anybody can sign contracts – fulfilling them is what’s important… And so far not a single org stepping up to Zuffa has been able to do that.
Err..... back to you
I don’t want to flame you, and if it seems like I am, then I am sorry, however, I would like to have a healthy debate on the subject.
“They should be developing newer talent and getting guys that fit their previously successful monetary scheme.”
I just mentioned that list of new fighters/prospects that Strikeforce has and their use of the Strikeforce Challengers Series. Obviously, it would not be wise to bring these fighters up on a main card of a Showtime or CBS card especially if no one knows who they are and are unproven.
“These guys they’ve signed, and are rumored to be signing, are not cheap fighters.”
While you could very well be correct, how do you know this? Also, is how much they pay these fighters commensurate with how much Strikeforce is making or not? From what I can tell, there really isn’t any news of Strikeforce being in the red or anything like that.
To be honest, I honestly feel that you are worried over nothing. So far, Strikeforce has been consistently good and have good momentum going for them right now. While problems do indeed exists, I personally haven’t found anything that indicates that Strikeforce will be in perilous straits. If anything and judging from their last card, the direction Strikeforce is heading looks to be pretty good.
Running in circles
WAMMA+M1+cancelling fights=stepping in shit. Everything else you’re arguing isn’t gaining any traction. Who the fuck said to put them on the main card next month? My point is to work to that end, and that I’ve long held the belief that SF would be most successful w/ a business model that revolves around the development of (currently) lesser known talent and hoping to strike gold with their own home-grown fighters. You’re out of your mind if you think I’m alone in that assessment, given that it was prevalent among most anyone that had an opinion on the matter before the Fedro signing. And if you think they’re paying the likes of Fedor in ice cream and bread crumbs, you’re sorely disillusioned.
It’s ironic that you question my ability to forecast futures and then go on to say
the direction Strikeforce is heading looks to be pretty good.
Nothing I’ve said is more than reflective of that quote, and I’ve actually provided precedence to support my worry about the potential for future grief— rather than clumsily saying I think the broadcast looked good and the ratings were nice (which says nothing of my enjoyment of the product, mind you). Maybe you have no idea that CBS/Showtime, M-1 and other parties are sharing at least some portion of the profits that are gained from these broadcasts, or that the UFC makes tens of millions when they broadcast PPV’s and that Showtime/SF have pretty clear intentions to enter that market? Maybe you don’t plainly see that I’m satisfied as an observer, but concerned that some of the things they’re doing are almost identical in nature to actions that were taken by the now-fallen MMA 2nd-fiddles that preceded them? Or maybe you just wanted to pick a fight without anything to add to the conversation? I don’t know.. Go nuts champ..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Boy, I'm glad I didn't decide to debate you tonight...
oh, wait..
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 3:26 AM EST up reply actions
Actually SF’s payroll is exceeding elite xc’s and and is only going up.
Elite XC also had the challenger series.
Elite XC did better in CBS ratings.
And Elite XC was on showtime longer.
Elite XC still lost 40m plus dollars.
This all before the Seth Petruzeli scandle.
The difference is Strikeforce nor Showtime has anywhere near 40m to lose in this venture.
All it takes is one pin to come lose and everything can come tumbling down like a house of cards.
Take for example the CBS ratings… nobody expected such a shitty overall rating.
If they lose CBS they lose the sponsorship leverage they have for fighters being featured on network TV to help subsidize the payroll.
They’ve gone all in on the flop and if they get past the turn they’re only hope is another ace on the river.
What Blackout is saying and what alot of people have been saying is they should have slow played and built up some chips (built up their brand and strengthened their fight contracts/championship clauses) and then you have more opportunities to bank in and trap on high probably hands.
If they took their time and built up a rematch between Cyborg and Carano in the late spring of 2010 for CBS it would have cost a shit load less and the ratings would have been a shit load better and their chances of building that relationship with CBS would have been stronger.
That’s the kind of shit that happens when you go all in on the flop… you lose potential opportunities with other hands that have way higher probabilities of winning.
Now Gina’s gonna want more money, Gegard already wants more money you still have to pay Fedor super star money (which goes up with every fight) when clearly he doesnt draw like one yet – and so the house of cards come tumbling down.
by mmalogic on Nov 10, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
The momentum is going to be long gone by the time they have another real card.
Did they even mention the Challengers card on CBS?
The problem is that everything is still up in the air. The UFC is able to build momentum because every show is a commercial for the next 2 or 3 cards. They should have gotten CBS to commit to 2 cards at a time and been pushing the second one. They don’t need the whole card set up, they could have just picked a date and gotten Cyborg to agree to fight on the card. They could have shown clips of the women’s fight (or the whole thing) and hyped up the match between Coenen and Cyborg.
It was an ok card, but as usual, they did very little during it to set themselves up for the future.
I think Barnet in SF is a very real possibility providing Josh makes a committment to stay clean. SF is very easy to work with and we know Barnett requires flexibility in his contract. I hope he gets his shit straight with the CSAC and we will know shortly thereafter. The fight is there just beckoning. Let’s hope Josh puts MMA b4 his other interets.
LOLZ at "a committment to stay clean"
This guy tanked an entire card, attributed to sinking an org, and has a lot of people that are pissed at him. I don’t think the CSAC are going to let him off easily, or honestly, at all.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
will the CSAC care about a tanked card or sinking an org? i don’t think so.. They don’t like barnett cause of constantly failing drug tests..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
am i the only one who really doesn't want to see Werdum vs Fedor?
I’d rather see Werdum vs Monson and Fedor against Overeem immediately..
if they can somehow get Alistair on the first quarter of 2010, that would probably be around the same time (or maybe a month or two after) as fedor’s recovery from his injuries anyway, right?
and also, maybe they could use Herschel vs Lashley as a headliner of a challenger series, or a strong main card, or even co-headliner of a showtime card as a way to gather attention from tons of casual fans.. (walker isn’t couture, he isn’t going to hang around much longer in MMA anyway, might as well do it to get new fans in the sport)
Weo, is this Herschel stuff sarcasm? Come on d00d..
I wouldn’t go as far as to say that I don’t want to see Werdum, but it’s further down the list than a bout with Overeem.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
why not?
Lashley has faced inexperienced, or really bad guys so far anyway.. a herschel fight will be right up his alley. Might as well get the noobs interested while he’s at it right?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
Who the fuck is interested in 47 year old Herschel Walker? He’s not a draw for casuals, he was barely a draw as a pro football player in the 80’s (when he was actually good). He won’t fight before 2010, how do you figure that he’ll be any sort of a draw as a fighter?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
SUPREMACY! haha.
but seriously though, Casuals will watch because you combine a Draw in Lashley, and a name they know in Herschel.
it would certainly get more attention from the casuals than Lashley vs Whitehead. (and Lashley has a huge chance to lose there)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
I disagree
Whitehead’s time on TUF makes him a more marketable matchup in combination with Lashley than Lashley vs Walker. What a circus sideshow that is; 47 year old former football player vs former pro wrestler? No thanks mang..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
it is a circus freakshow fight that is more spectacle than show,
people love circuses.. haha. I’m talking about getting new fans.. fans who haven’t heard about Whitehead.. fans who tuned in on CBS and said, what is that guy constantly feeling up the dude from MTV?
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
I think people in the mma world overestimate the draw of Lashley.
He wasn’t a draw in WWE, and TNA is not big at all.
He gets a lot of hype from the anti-zuffa brigade because they think he will do Brock did to whoever the next, next Pride is this year. I don’t think it’s going to happen.
He's not a Brock-level draw-- not even CLOSE
But for what little draw he was as a pro wrestler, he’ll bring a ton of those people over out of curiosity. You didn’t have to like him as a wrestler to be curious what he’s doing now— investing 5-15 minutes isn’t that big an investment on free TV, right?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
yep.
he’s not on Brock’s level. NO ONE IS.. but you can’t say that Bobby doesn’t bring in lots of fans
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
astute points, all
but c’mon, you have to say Herschel will draw the eye, even in a “freakshow” capacity. If anyone’s watched college football in the last 30 years, you know what a legend he is and will be interested in him fighting. Hell, every year they do Heisman’s greatest moments, top 50 players, or some stuff like that and he’s always featured.
Shit, the number of people that will watch in Georgia alone will out-perform a typical SF card
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Well
Responding to me would have been a good idea, first of all. Wrestling fans will follow wrestlers, favorites or otherwise, to the theatre, to free MMA fights, to other orgs— just to see what they’re doing. They don’t have to want to buy a blow up doll of the guy to watch him on free TV.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Why would responding to you be a good idea when I’m not responding to your comment?
Now that I am,
I don’t know how many people will follow him when they didn’t care for him that much in the first place. Plus SF has not shown that they will be able to let those wrestling fans that do want to follow him over know that he is fighting.
Wrestling fans don’t make movies starring wrestlers they like successful, i just don’t understand why everyone thinks an unpopular one would automaticcally be a draw.
he wasn't a huge draw..
but i don’t think you can consider him “unpopular”..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
His popularity isn't THAT relevant
Wrestling fans want to see wrestlers really fight. They recognize the guy and have probably always wondered how he would fare in a legit scrap. It’s a natural curiosity.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Reasons to reply to me seemed implied
why do people think that he will?
The difference between plopping down ten dollars to see John Cena’s newest vehicle, or plopping down zero dollars to watch a d00d you recognize from his years on WWE programming for a maximum of 18 minutes— is pretty sizable. He doesn’t need to blow the doors off to bring some people over. Like, people who aren’t already interested in a gigantic, muscular, former NAIA wrestling champion, 4-0 heavyweight, mixed martial artist. Like… on top of that. He’ll be a draw with wrestling fans, trust me.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
My point is, those people were not interested in him when he was doing what they liked, why are we assuming they’ll be interested in him doing something else?
Interested in him=buying PPV's he headlined
People liked him as a wrestler. I think you’re over-estimating the perception of him as a poor draw. There are very few real draws in pro-wrestling, so it’s not that telling that he couldn’t sell 50 dollar PPV’s.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I'm happy for you Blackout, and Ima let you finish...
but Herschel Walker would do work on Lashley, you, and your best friend.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
needless to say, in this equation you wear the orange jersey
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
Not sure how me getting beat up by Herschel has anything to do with MMA, even though we both have zero professional fights. Maybe try sticking to some real talking points before I have to flag you for being a massive troll.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Flag me all you want
I gots no problems with you son, but whenever Herschel is mentioned ANYWHERE I bow down and pay my respects, and will brandish the hammer of Thor on all those who don’t do likewise.
Know this: as much as Weo loves him some Brandon Vera, my shit is like Fatal Attraction with #34. Say you don’t want the fight to happen, that’s all good in the hood, but don’t insult my boy like that.
For “real talking points”: Herschel Walker is probably in better shape than Randy Cotoure at similar ages, and while I know there is a huge disparity in their experience/skill level for MMA, Herschel is a 6th degree black belt in TKD and as recently as the early 90s nearly made the Olympic sprint team. Don’t sleep on him in a fight with Lashley
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
you seem to love herschel a lottttttttt more than i love Vera..
hahaha.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
It's almost disgusting.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
It is
I love Adrian Peterson, but I wouldn’t be cheering for him in a pro fight in 20 years. Save your sense of obligation for something that really matters, not someone saying your favorite college football player from the 80’s isn’t a viable professional fighting prospect at the ripe old age of 47 with no pro fights under his belt.
BLASPHEMY! Give me a break, guy..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I can't dude
I’ll die on my sword the minute Lashley powerbombs Herschel into oblivion, but until then I question nothing he does (um, other than decide to go the USFL…)
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 9, 2009 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
You’re talking like they’re about to fight or something.
PS; I also might hate him a little, being a Minnesotan and all, but I swear that doesn’t effect this opinion. Hahaha
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
haha, the statement goes for anyone he might fight.
But damn, I can’t disagree that you got the shit-end of a stick with the HWT. That’s one of the most lopsided trades of all time.
However, Herschel’s pro career has gotta be one of the most underrated of all time. Even tho he spent 3 prime years in the USFL, I’m pretty sure he’s still in top 10 of the NFL’s all-purpose yards.
Alright, that’s enough…
/gets off soapbox
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 9, 2009 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
this^
Never thought a topic would cause me to feel compelled to learn how to use mobile commenting (at midnight no less), but anyone questioning the almighty Herscel is indeed such a topic.
Not only was Herschel’s pro career vastly underrated, but he WAS also a draw. In a startup League, his Generals were 3rd in the League in attendance each season (topping out at 41K+ in ’85).
Best.College Football Player. Ever.
Chuck Norris wishes he was even half as tough as Herschel.
Don’( sleep on #34. Age is just a number!
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 9, 2009 11:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
-Best Football player ever
-Underrated football player
-41K in 85.
none of those things you said makes a case for him being a decent fighter today..sorry.
he’s probably a great guy and all. seemed pretty nice when he was in the apprentice too.. but none of that is relevant in the cage.. His athleticism will overcome his inexperience? more than a decade after his prime? …I doubt it will.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, this is weirding me out
Who was saying he wasn’t a good football player?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 10, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions
Blackout
You DID say the almighty Herschel was not a draw in Football, which is completely incorrect….Kimbo drew millions of eyeballs in MMA for not one good reason…..Herchel’s story is interesting and will garner press….remember, “there is no such thing as bad publicity”….
by BrothersGottaAndyHug on Nov 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not going to get valuable press.
I usually agree with the saying “there is no such thing as bad publicity” but when it comes to Walker, I don’t think anything valuable will come from it. I don’t see walker doing much more than having talking heads and columnists making 1 liners about how sad it is that he is fighting at his age.
Those guys are mostly blowhards, so it won’t hurt that much, but it won’t bring tons of fans or real publicity.
Yeah
His USFL team was 3rd in attendance in the early 80’s. That’s what I call a draw.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
if I wasn't lazy
I would create 10 other profiles and rec you to death
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
Good, cause that's the only way it becomes green.. :P
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 10, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
that one hurt. :(
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
relax, im just trying to piss you off haha.. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 10, 2009 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
...
I didn’t want to turn this into a football argument, but it seems it’s already too late.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 10, 2009 12:19 AM EST up reply actions
Hey now..
I recall a MASSIVE argument about Dante Bichette a while back
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
not true
this website isn’t counting his kick/punt return yards, whereas it does for others in front of him
The real list at the start of 2009:
Jerry Rice (23,546 yards)
Brian Mitchell (23,330 yards)
Walter Payton (21,803 yards)
Emmitt Smith (21,564 yards)
Tim Brown (19,682 yards)
Marshall Faulk (19,190 yards)
Barry Sanders (18,308 yards)
Herschel Walker (18,168 yards)
Marcus Allen (17,648 yards)
Curtis Martin (17,421 yards)
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
can we stay on point guys? haha.
again, irrelevant.. especially in the cage..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 10, 2009 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
yea, back to mma
I just couldn’t let this pass, like the Balrog in LOTR
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 3:30 AM EST up reply actions
Balrog from Street Fighter is also a black fighter who punches people
It all came full circle.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Nov 10, 2009 3:38 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
a goodwill rec
(as well as for making me nostalgic for Street Fighter II)
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
Would you say Walker is Miguel Torres to your Frank Mir?
A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.
Yes.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 10, 2009 2:31 AM EST up reply actions
“As recently as the early 90’s”
LMAO, you mean only 15 years ago he tried out for the olympics? Wow, he MUST be a good fighter!
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 10:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
just a testament to his athleticism, a decade after he won the Heisman
We’ve seen how pure athleticism can make up for a lack of experience in MMA. You may ask, I’m saying this about a fucking 47-year-old?
Yes, dudes, I am saying this about a 47-year-old.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 9, 2009 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Looks like someone has a man crush. Did he once save your pet hamster from a burning building or something?
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 10:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can't tell you what Herschel has done for me.
I’d be run out of town.
Just kidding… but seriously.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 9, 2009 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
yep, he would've had potential to make up for his lack of experience... 15 years ago..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
100 monopoly bucks says he still runs a sub-4.7 40ydd
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 9, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
as you said, they're going to pay big bucks for Lashley.
I doubt they won’t put him in against a guy like Rogers or even Shane Del Rosario, immediately..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
They don't have to, but he better fight someone better than Walker
And Walker is not going to main event shit, d00d. He needs to win at least one fight to be put on television, and even then— really? He’s 47! I still feel like his signing is some sort of an elaborate joke. It makes Kimbo in EXC look like a 4 time NCAA Wrestling Champ getting signed by the UFC.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
look at the guys maineventing challenger cards man..
Lashley is still Challenger Series level..
and yes, we have the same opinion on Herschel. hahaha. :)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Lashley will make them money on CBS, though. I think they’d expect him to fight on the televised portion of those cards.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
probably..
Strikeforce has such a thin division, that veryhigh-level opponents for Fedor and low-ave level opponents for Lashley are hard to find too..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
"In the blue corner, 3 Time Steroid Bustee......JOSH BARNETT!!!!!!!!!!
And I think lots of people dont want to see Werdum vs. Fedor.
I don’t want to see Barnett-Fedor personally. As Dubya Bush once said- “fool me once shame on, shame on you. Fool me twice- you can’t get fooled again.” Even if he passes the test there are just gonna be so many questions surrounding him from here on out it’s not even worth it for me. I’d rather see him rematch Arlovski.
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 10:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
This is a no brainer
He absolutely will sign with Strikeforce, though I don’t see him fighting Fedor out of the box…I would think he would have a “welcome back” match that redefines him as a top 10 fighter.
Wags
I thought both fedor and barnett said they would not fight each other because they are friends. Nothing like the guy obsessed with an old football player I hope. I always thought friends fighting were the best fights – bragging rights
My dad told me when I was 8 years old, "Never hit a man while he is down... it so much easier to kick him!!!!"
If Strikeforce has an ounce of common sense, they should think veery hard before signing Barnett. I’m not exactly sure they would survive Barnett testing positive again. I’d say they should put a truckload of caution into this one – and I’m not sure if it’s a good idea anyhow.
Fedor-Barnett could be a huge money fight – but given Josh’s history, the risk is potentially even bigger.
by Monday Morning Martial Artist on Nov 10, 2009 2:42 AM EST reply actions
Theyre ramping up the payroll as someone said earlier, but I think people also need to see how the Fedor vs Rogers event was great for getting a name out… The way this is going I see Strikeforce as possibly being able to grab together a heavyweight division that is comparable to the UFC…
A heavyweight division possibly consisting of Fedor, Alistair, Barnett, Arlovski, Rogers and Werdum (plus people who are not in the consensus rankings top 24 to deepen it out). That would be something I would tune in to every time. Even deeper down in fantasy land I even see them picking up Jeff Monson, who is one of my personal favorite fighters.
Strikeforce needs to build something that is interesting for all MMA fans to watch, and a strong and talented heavyweight division is where they already have their ace in Fedor.
Shane Del Rosario
is one of their brightest up and comers. Give him a few more fights, and i think he’d be a beast..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 10, 2009 5:05 AM EST up reply actions
Fedor vs. Barnett
This is the one fight I have wished for my whole career as a MMA fan. It would be a travesty if these two never fight. Josh has been ducking Fedor too long. The steroid scandal sucked, hopefully we can move on and have this superfight happen.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
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