Strikeforce: Evolution Going Head to Head With WEC 45: Cerrone vs. Ratcliff

by Nick Thomas on Nov 9, 2009 4:09 PM EST in MMA News

Which one will you watch live on December 19th?

Strikeforce: Evolution on Showtime           WEC 45: Cerrone vs. Ratcliff on Versus
Cung Le vs. Scott Smith                                Donald Cerrone vs. Ed Ratcliff

Matt Lindland vs. Ronald "Jacare" Souza        Chris Horodecki vs. Anthony Njokuani

Muhammed "King Mo" Lawal vs. TBA             Joseph Benavidez vs. Rani Yahya

Robbie Lawler vs. TBA                                  Takeya Mizugaki vs. Scott Jorgensen


Strikeforce: Evolution presale tickets for “Strikeforce Insiders” begin tomorrow Nov. 10th.

Strikeforce: Evolution coverage
WEC 45: Cerrone vs. Ratcliff coverage

Poll

What will you watch?

Strikeforce live, WEC recorded

664 votes

WEC live, Strikeforce recorded

191 votes

Both live

75 votes

Both recorded

117 votes

Don't have Showtime, so WEC only

293 votes

Can't get Versus, so Strikeforce only

127 votes

Don't have Showtime, can't get Versus

143 votes

1610 votes | Poll has closed

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I will watch WEC and DVR SF.

by Meshuggeth on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions

It actually depends on time, I’ll watch wichever one airs first and DVR the other one.

by Meshuggeth on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST up reply actions

I’m guessing WEC 10pm and Strikeforce 11pm.

by Nick Thomas on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions

both, same as above

by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions

Both DVR FTW!

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by pitbull187 on Nov 9, 2009 4:13 PM EST reply actions

Or if your a DirecTV subscriber without Showtime you get nothing.

The Strikeforce card to me looks better on paper but the WEC rarely if ever dissapoints. Probably watch Strikeforce live and DVR WEC just so I dont have to deal with commercials.

It will also help when those TBA’s are finalized and also if the fights end early this time can Showtime show some of the undercard?

by bigdmmafan on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions

Yup, my answer is "None of the above"

Since Comcast has decided to take this pissing match to the end of time with DirecTv. And fight fans (and hockey fans) are the only ones who lose, because in the end, both corporations will make money.

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by duck on Nov 9, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions

Its no question..

Cung Le, Jacare, Mo Lawal and Robbie Lawler? All of those fights intrigue me.

by Charger567 on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM EST reply actions

same.

Hey lets get a poll!

by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

thats what she said

"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar

by pitbull187 on Nov 9, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions

WEC on TV, SF on PC.

Livebloggin’ both. I have no life.

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by Scott C. Broussard on Nov 9, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions

WEC wins out for me. In both cases there are two fights I’m really interested in—Mizugaki/Jorgenson and Benavidez/Yahya for WEC, Lawal/whoever and Lindland/Jacare for SF—but I think the WEC show stands a better chance of being consistently entertaining overall.

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by JRN on Nov 9, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions

That makes two of us.

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by Rundownloser on Nov 9, 2009 5:20 PM EST up reply actions

Strikeforce has the bigger names but WEC seems to ALWAYS deliver a excellent night of fights. Im a big fan of Benavidez and Cerrone and then you got Horodecki debut. Id almost put money on WEC having the better fights

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by pitbull187 on Nov 9, 2009 4:18 PM EST reply actions

WEC! WEC! WEC!

I’m all about my fights being exciting AND meaningful.

by SidHartman on Nov 9, 2009 4:19 PM EST reply actions

If I had Showtime

I’d watch SF, but I don’t so… WEC it is!

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by funnytiger on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM EST reply actions

Same here.

by lowellthehammer on Nov 9, 2009 4:20 PM EST up reply actions

Same here

by Jeff124 on Nov 9, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions

Looks like were in the same boat, although I’ll be looking to go to a friend’s place to watch Strikeforce if they are having a party.

Giving Shogun his props. I had the fight 48-47 Machida but Shogun put up a monumental performance and I am honored to have seen it in person.

by Day Man on Nov 9, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions

4th’d

by woooburn on Nov 9, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions

I have Showtime

But I’m still going to watch WEC

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by Damon O. on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM EST up reply actions

230

haha. but seriously, i’ll probably be doing the same.. This house doesn’t have showtime.

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by Anton Tabuena on Nov 9, 2009 5:11 PM EST up reply actions

i dont have showtime either, so i guess ill watch strikeforce live:) and dvr wec and watch it later that nite or the next day

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by baldspot23 on Nov 9, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions

I have minimal interest in the headlining fight of the WEC card. The rest of the fights… totally hyped for. If I’m lucky I’ll catch Strikeforce early on ShowEast, then watch WEC when it airs. Probably tape delayed on west coast, right?

by pdl on Nov 9, 2009 4:21 PM EST reply actions

Neither on TV unfortunately.
TSN normally carries WEC but there is a shitty Edmonton (quite literally) hockey game on instead.
Strikeforce on Showtime requires me to subscribe to a channel that has shit content except for the occasional Strikeforce event, I already pay way too much for cable so I’ll have to suffer with liveblog only.

I may try and find a way to stream both if I have time.

by pr0cs on Nov 9, 2009 4:27 PM EST reply actions

TSN is usually delayed a few days anyways, aren’t they? (why they don’t at least throw it on live on TSN2 is beyond me)… and I don’t think I can even order Showtime through Shaw here, so I guess I’m watching whichever one I can find the better stream for.

by kid_eh on Nov 9, 2009 5:19 PM EST up reply actions

Too early

The Edmonton Oiler game is on CBC that night so wait and see – TSN or TSN2 will likely carry it.

by Mr. Reynolds on Nov 11, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions

Just put a picutre of a can beside King Mo, it’s bound to happen anyway.

by grein on Nov 9, 2009 4:32 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

I’m expecting Southworth, maybe Whitehead. Not exactly cans, but not phenomenal opposition either.

Can’t do worse than Kerr though.

by lowellthehammer on Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions

Ive heard all of the fighters on the strikeforce card.. but only familiar with horodecki from wec.. so strikeforce it is.. oh wait i only get wec… wec it is

by pandaboy99 on Nov 9, 2009 4:33 PM EST reply actions

The WEC guys have more gas, they'll put on a better show.....

but the Strikeforce card has more star power. I’m sure King Mo won’t take a hard fight right now, who knows who Robbie is fighting.

Does Lindland still have anything? I doubt it. I’m intrested to see how Jacare is progressing though. Cung Le is WAY over rated as an MMA fighter. He can definitely out strike Smith, but Smith has power and is always fun to watch.

The higher level MMA will definitely be on the WEC. I’ll watch both with much excitement though.

by Dexerion on Nov 9, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions

Agreed about Cung Le. Only intrigue about his fight is that we probably wont see him for another 2 years.

by SidHartman on Nov 9, 2009 4:42 PM EST up reply actions

Really? A dynamic and interesting striker matched up against an iron chinned brawler? My ass is firmly entrenched in my seat, regardless of the name value.

by pdl on Nov 9, 2009 4:57 PM EST up reply actions

As a Main Event? No thanks. Especially with WEC on.

The best part about Smith’s game is his chin.
Despite his movie, I couldn’t care less about Matt Lindland right now.
I’d like to see King Mo, but SF’s 205 division is thinner then Calista Flockheart.
I don’t know who you’d put up against Lawler.

by SidHartman on Nov 9, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions

What if we see the SF/Dream alliance break out all of a sudden and it’s Lawler vs. Manhoef? Yeah… you’d pick SF for that right?

by pdl on Nov 9, 2009 9:53 PM EST up reply actions

I’ve never been disappointed by a WEC card, so it’s WEC for me.

by cmsove on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions

I don't know if it's on purpose or not......

….but this is a great way for Strikeforce to avoid counter programming by the UFC on Spike. Would Zuffa counter program on a night they are having the WEC on? haha! Interesting situation .

by Dexerion on Nov 9, 2009 4:36 PM EST reply actions

WEC hasnt dissapointed me in the exciting fights department so WEC and record strikeforce

by IRodC on Nov 9, 2009 4:37 PM EST reply actions

ATDHE

by I Can't Feel My Face on Nov 9, 2009 4:38 PM EST reply actions

I’ll be going to Strikeforce, so it looks like DVR for WEC!

by Punishark on Nov 9, 2009 4:46 PM EST reply actions

I’ll be watching Strikeforce on TV with WEC playing on a stream on my laptop since I’m a sad DirecTV customer.

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by MMAEruption on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions

Mmmmm.... DVR

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by Blackout612 on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions

Why do they have to do this? White and Coker should just whip em out and measure to settle this counter-programming BS once and for all.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Nov 9, 2009 5:02 PM EST reply actions

Going to be at Strikeforce

So I’m DVRing WEC.

by Johpin on Nov 9, 2009 5:37 PM EST reply actions

You guys can watch strikeforce if you like but just now Donald Cerrone is going to put on a clinic that day

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by xtremecouture on Nov 9, 2009 6:33 PM EST reply actions

I have never regretted watching WEC.

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by iiowyn on Nov 9, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions

DirecTV = I'll be watching Strikeforce

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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 9, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions

SF here even though i like WEC...Smith never has a boring fight. win or lose

plus cant wait to see who they match up King Mo? maybe Hendo anyone? anyone? never say never !

by OnewayTiket on Nov 9, 2009 7:54 PM EST reply actions

I like how Nick set this post up, because it shows a stark difference between the two fight organizations. SF has some interesting names that, alone, are intriguing. The card may turn out to be filled with great matchups, but we don’t know yet. The WEC, on the other hand, is all about great matches even if you don’t know too much about one or both of the competitors. The WEC continually delivers in the excitement department.

That’s not to say that the one organization is necessarily better than the other. I just find the contrasting styles of two competing MMA organizations as interesting. Now, they’re going head to head.

by Cannon Jacques on Nov 9, 2009 11:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs