What's Next for Fedor Emelianenko? Fabricio Werdum, Alistair Overeem on the Horizon
Following Saturday night's TKO victory over Brett Rogers on CBS, Fedor Emelianenko's stock has surely risen with the North American MMA fanbase. Not only did Fedor deal with the pressures of being the fighter in which M-1 Global and Strikeforce are hinging much of their future upon, but he was able to come through in spectacular fashion with a devastating highlight reel knockout that delivered to the millions of fans watching. With Fedor's stock rising, Strikeforce and M-1 Global should have their sights set on Fedor's next fight once he heals from his injuries.
The easy choice would be Fabricio Werdum. Werdum's winning performance against Antonio "Bigfoot" Silva wasn't anything to write home about, but he was able to effectively control Silva on the floor by using his superior jiu-jitsu skills. Silva's striking was his main weapon in damaging Werdum, and he was easily winning exchanges against the former PRIDE fighter when both men were toe-to-toe. The problem for Silva came down to his inability to counter Werdum's tactics on the floor, and he found himself in bad positions constantly. While the strikes Werdum threw on the ground weren't stunning, he was effectively scoring on Silva and wearing him down.
Ideally, Werdum and Fedor will clash in the spring/summer of 2010. It's the perfect match-up for Fedor in that Werdum's stand-up is by far his worst skill. Silva was able to land jabs and combinations, and Fedor's power and quickness will only add to the damage that could be inflicted on Werdum in a stand-up exchange. While Werdum offers a superior technical ground game, Fedor's strength and transition game could easily nullify those abilities on the floor, creating a fight in which Werdum has few ways to win. To make matters worse, Werdum won't have a sizable weight advantage like Rogers had in their battle on Saturday night.
Werdum offers the perfect fight for Strikeforce and M-1 Global to showcase Fedor once again, but Werdum also offers the unattractive option of being a tough man to finish if the battle takes place on the ground for a majority of the bout. This has led to some writers to believe CBS may be hesitant to feature such a fight on their network.
With a successful victory over Werdum, Fedor should be in line to take on the massive Alistair "Megareem" Overeem in late 2010 as a mega-fight that should be a no-brainer for network television. It will likely be one of the toughest fights Fedor will ever undertake in his career as Overeem couples a massive 255-265 pound frame with K-1 level striking and devastating power. Fedor won't have the luxury of throwing powerful combinations with Overeem countering with precision strikes in six-ounce gloves, but Overeem has yet to be tested on the ground in his new muscular frame. It's a truly intriguing match-up that should have every single fan of this sport on the edge of their seats.
Is Overeem a fight that will happen? A lot of writers and fans are skeptical. Overeem's drawing power in Japan is on the rise, and it may be more beneficial for him to remain on the K-1 circuit while being promoted through DREAM shows simultaneously. There is also the issue as to whether Overeem can pass a drug test as many fans believe his muscle growth is completely unnatural and freakish. If we put both of those issues together, Overeem may simply be "talking the talk" right now with no plans to ever step foot on North American soil again.
One thing is certain... Overeem is the only forseeable test for Fedor within Strikeforce. Werdum doesn't strike me as a fight that can test Fedor's skill-set, and I see it as more of a fight in which Werdum will be on the defensive for most of it. Overeem, on the other hand, can offer an offensive striking threat, a powerful submission game, and a ridiculous size advantage all within the confines of the cage. It could be a bout in which Fedor Emelianenko actually stands a good chance of losing, or it could be a battle in which Alistair Overeem's past problems rear their ugly heads once again.
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I want that Overeem fight.
Overeem is the only real challenge for Fedor other than Barnett, who will probably be sued by M-1 and you know, things won’t be looking up for that happening any time soon.
People are high on the OVEREEM IS ON ROIDS thing, but you know, Jake Shields has backne and is a midget compared to Alistair. Steroids have many uses and honestly, until somebody pisses dirty, you can’t tell. Maybe Jake Shields is hitting puberty?
Bas Boon has gone on record saying Alistair had to cut around 30lbs to get to Light Heavyweight and did his best to not try to lift too much and make the cut more difficult. Since he doesn’t worry about cutting now he has focused on putting on muscle mass. I wouldn’t be surprised if he had some help, but some people are just natural athletes.
That being said, his striking would be a problem for Fedor and he is actually better known for his grappling, the world class striking is something new for him. He is just scary.
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by D.W. on Nov 9, 2009 12:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Unless Overeem fails a drug test, theres no reason to say hes on roids.
I got my money on voodoo though.
by IRodC on Nov 9, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When your face gains 10 lbs of muscle, you are doing push ups with your chin, or you are on Roids.
by judonerd on Nov 9, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
cant accuse AO and not look at Brock’s JUCO gains. They dont drug test in junior college. This is getting dumb.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing them is dumb.
One fights in a country that drug tests more than any where else in the world, while the other one appears to be avoiding fighting in countries that test.
One has always been as big as a house, the other one became so overnight.
Yeah, their totally the same.
by Razreshat on Nov 9, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One has always been as big as a house, the other one became so overnight.5 years.
All Im saying is Brock got a lot bigger a lot faster. Not that he is or did do sterioids. But if you think kids dont juice in high school and JUCOs youve got to wake the up buddy. Other breaking news: the tooth fairy is not real and that guy who comes over after you leave and messes up your bed sheets is not just your gf’s yoga instructor.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
The USA is also the country with arguably the worst abuse rates and most educated users (due to said testing) in the world too…so….
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
what were brock’s" jucco gains"? he was a hw then too right? it’s not like he was bobby lashley and weighed 185lbs in colege.
by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I personally believe that at least 50% of highly-paid professional athletes have taken steroids in one form or another to get where they are, and Lesnar is definitely a part of that list.
My list also includes every olympic recors breaker in the last 30 years, Phelps included.
Watch “Bigger Stronger Faster”, it will blow your mind. NFL coaches and Olympic trainers straight up admitting that steroids is rampant and should just be accepted.
by judonerd on Nov 9, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lots of former UFC guys did it. Why stop? Most guys do it, then use HGH to maintain the gains. Its no secret. Most of the guys in the NFL are on HGH.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
nobody
tests for HGH, so you could say that every ahtelete on the earth could be using them, and there is no way of proving them wrong. guilty before innocent.
by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats my point! You cant say and dont know. If everyone can get away with it, who cares? Its a level playing field. We just get upset at the ones who get caught because they are dumb enough not to time their cycles and remind us that in reality sports are corrupt with cheating.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the only athelete that would make me lose all hope in humanity if he tested positve or got busted for HGH use is Albert Pujols. i believe that he’s the one shining light in baseball and all sports that you can be great without “cheating”.
by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you believe...
..that Pujols doesn’t use HGH, then I pity you.
by BNTHIS on Nov 9, 2009 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t get why people always say this. Dude is huge.
I wouldn’t be shocked by any baseball player. They were all on greenies (which no one seems to care about) and they were probably all on roids. THey knew the tests were coming and that many still tested positive.
by Phildo on Nov 9, 2009 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
but i can only go by the here and now, not the past. lesnar passses all the same tests as everyone else. overeem doesn’t. i’m sure brock could have used in the wwe, but brocks body looks different in a less positive way than when he “wrassled”. he’s not all cut up and ripped. he has love handles and moobs. he may have gained alot of weight 12-13 years ago in jr. college, but thats alot different than AO’s gain in his 30’s. plus AO’s head size is what sticks out the most to me.
yes iv’e seen "Bigger, Stronger, Faster and it was a real eye opener. i posted once that alot of mma fighters have got busted once and have been forgiven. franca, bonner,sherk,leben. most fighter can get by with ityt once, but there are a handfull of fighters who would be tainted for life with 1 single positive test. brock, randy, silva, gsp fedor, bj would never be thought of the same if they tested positive. we hold are legends to a higher level than other mere mortals. you can add overeem to that list as well, but for more dubouis reasons.
by bdw on Nov 9, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t keep steroid muscles for 10 years.
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by Ubernoober on Nov 9, 2009 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
you seen how much softer his body looks since WWE?
by judonerd on Nov 9, 2009 9:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to say 100% he wasn’t juicing then, but that statement is far from proof.
In the WWE his job was to look the way he did, now it’s not. And he wouldn’t be able to cut weight if he still had the same physique as he did back then.
by Phildo on Nov 9, 2009 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem hasn’t really looked great in his last 2 MMA matches though. They were so lackluster. Maybe if he were coming off of that Crocop spanking. I don’t care though I wanna see the fight. Fedor wins again IMO. Theres just no one on this planet that can beat him right now.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wait…
Which two fights? The bout with Slyvester and Thompson?
Those were basic gimme fights. He destroyed both guys. I would hinge anything on those fights. Honestly, I would like to see Overeem tested in MMA before the Fedor fight, but I doubt it’ll happen.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah those 2 fights. It was lackluster because of the opponents. I fully agree with you that he needs to be tested before Fedor unfortunately its very doubtful. Right now, I don’t even see the fight happening. I see Coker stripping AO for refusing to fight here in the States.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Golden Glory bout was a gift to Bas Boon. He didn’t have to do it, but it was for the anniversary of the gym. And Overeem probably drew people to the event so Boon could make money. I chalk that up to be charitable to his gym he’s been with for years.
The Thompson fight was FEG’s way of promoting Overeem for K-1, that’s it. Neither fight should be a considered serious.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I do think that outside of the UFC, Overeem probably has the best skill set to beat Fedor, but I think people are sleeping on Werdum. Werdum has a good deal of experience in the cage, and could potentially press Fedor against the cage, wear him out with knees, and use the cage for a takedown. Fedor is a hard guy to take down, but Rogers did show that you can control Fedor against the cage.
Fedor will probably shitkick him, but Werdum is always game.
As for Overeem… yes, he has the best skill set out of anyone to beat Fedor (I’d even go so far as to say that he has the best chance out of anyone in all of MMA, including Brock), because his striking is so dangerous, and he isn’t lacking in any other areas- good wrestling, coupled with good grappling. And he has the huge size/ strength advantage.
All Fedor has on him is speed, his mental game, and transitioning brilliance (which I think should be what wins him the fight =D)
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem vs Brock would be sick. Overeem would take it.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem vs Brock would be a much more attractive fight to the death than Fedor/Brock.
hell….Let’s put them all in a cage and let them beat the crap out of each other……
by BNTHIS on Nov 9, 2009 8:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree... Overeem is the fight I wanna see.
Werdum is the poor man’s Nogueira and I think a fight with Fedor would look alot like the first Nogueira/Fedor fight with Fedor dishing out a brutal pounding the entire fight. Overeem is by far the more intriguing match up
by ultimoshogun on Nov 9, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Guaging their last outings I really think Fedor vs. Werdum would be a lopsided beating… Overeem vs. Fedor is a truly intriguing match-up and it needs to happen as I see it.
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by 3PA on Nov 9, 2009 12:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A return to the US for Overeem with a win over Fedor and a clean piss test should be enough to wash away a lot of the badmouthing and speculation about him. I think that he has the skills to beat Emelianenko.
by Aux-ox on Nov 9, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Overeem has as good a chance of pissing clean AND beating Fedor as I do.
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 2:17 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You can take steroids and pass a drug test. Just a heads up.
by omigawda on Nov 9, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don’t you just love it when people are so naive about certain things, omigawda?
There’s ALWAYS a way around a Drug Test…..ALWAYS.
by BNTHIS on Nov 9, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can anyone name the best way to pass a drug test? Anyone?
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by iiowyn on Nov 9, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What does that have to do with anything? Lots of professional athletes cycle on and off roids as needed to pass tests. It’s its own science and pre-scheduled tests are largely pointless and only catch total nitwits.
by omigawda on Nov 10, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that, maybe instead od “pissing clean” I should have said “not being on roids”.
by ufc4 on Nov 10, 2009 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that, maybe instead of saying “pass a drug test” I should have said “not being on roids”.
by ufc4 on Nov 10, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the thing, if he pisses clean and kills Fedor people will continue to accuse him of being on steroids. The whole basis for the allegation is that he put on a lot of muscle within a short time period, which is apparently impossible, and that’s still going to to be the argument if he beats Fedor and pees tap water.
by omigawda on Nov 10, 2009 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And now we get to the problem with Fedor going to SF...
Werdum….Really? That’s the next best opponent? Jesus.
And frankly i’m getting more and more skeptical that Overeem will ever fight in Strikeforce, or the US, again.
As for those 2 NEW HW signings. If one’s Arlovski, is that really new? He already fought Fedor and fought in SF once already. Bobby Lashley? The guy still needs another year or two.
How long is Fedor’s SF contract? 3 fights?
by SidHartman on Nov 9, 2009 12:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
I remember when Fedor went to Strikeforce there was a repeated argument on BE with people claiming the Strikeforce matchups were as intriguing as the UFC ones. While there are some good match-ups in Strikeforce the limited roster depth complicates things. If one UFC fighter doesn’t look convincing then the UFC can look for another fighter coming off an impressive win. In strikeforce they really need a few specific matches to work out even when they seem rather lackluster.
by SES 84 on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I asked Coker during the post fight press conference something along the lines of the following:
Scott, Brett just called out Alistair Overeem…just like seemingly every Strikeforce heavyweight for the past two years. At what point do you become concerned that you just put on a show on CBS with four heavyweights who instantly became more well known than Alistair Overeem? At what point do you want your champion to actually fight in your promotion?
He basically gave an answer of “we’d love to have Brett, Fedor or Werdum fight Overeem and right now he is a mystery to most American fans but when they see his style I think they’re going to love him”
Which to me doesn’t give a lot of hope of seeing Alistair in the states any time soon.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 9, 2009 12:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like they want to give AO a punching bag before he fights Fedor.
by omigawda on Nov 9, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh...and Werdum is the right fight for Fedor right now...
He just won a pretty exciting (I don’t know what Nate was smoking to be suggesting the fight was bad) fight on CBS against Bigfoot. I don’t really know that Werdum’s stock will be any higher than it is right now. I mean..you could give him Rogers, but I don’t like that fight in that it erases one guy from relevancy when I do legitimately think there is money in building Rogers up for a rematch and if he beats Werdum then you really can’t do anything with Fabricio.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 9, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It wasn’t a bad fight, but I think the style that Werdum brings is going to be completely nullfied by Fedor.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh so do I...
I’m just saying…if they’re going to do it…do it now. Don’t put it off until he loses the steam from being in a good fight on CBS
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 9, 2009 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are people jealous of Overeem? They always insinuate he is a cheater without proof and there is no punishment for it.
If he fails a test, sure label him a cheater, call him Roidereem or whatever, but I choose to give fighters the benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty.
As for future Fedor fights, as long as it isn’t Monson I am happy. They don’t have a very big pool to select from, and to be honest there are not even that many compelling Fedor fights left if you include the entire UFC HW division.
Brock would be more or less the only one that I think will give him trouble. Randy just because I think it would be a fun fight even though I am almost positive Randy would lose, and other than that, there really is not anyone.
by DirtyML on Nov 9, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can’t confirm this, but it’s been said on this site that he gained 38 lbs of muscle in a year. Regardless, he has gained an immense amount of muscle in very little time. The suspicion that this guy
(circa 2004) became this guy
with some chemical assistance is pretty reasonable.
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by toxic on Nov 9, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very reasonable. If you look at the before and after pictures, and steroids don’t at least cross your mind, well I just don’t know what to say. He went from being a LHW to a BIG HW in less than a year.
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by bubbafat on Nov 9, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair – the pictures are five years apart, not one. And he’s went from 230 in 2007 to 250ish in 2009, I know the differences in size and just the aesthetic look make you really wonder, but I mean it is plausible (though improbable) that he did get that big without steroids/PEDs.
Example: Chris Bosh of the Raptors has been said (repeatedly in the open) to have added almost 25lbs of muscle to his frame over one summer. The difference is quite noticeable and he has been able to add this muscle without much degradation to the rest of his overall abilities. So it is possible.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's impossible
to put on 25 lbs of straight muscle w/o AAS’s. It’s just not humanly possible. Studies have shown that even genetically gifted athletes who train hard, follow a mass building diet, etc on average build 12 lbs of muscle A YEAR. If he truly did put on that much muscle, then he would’ve had to have used. Your body doesn’t want to put on any more than a pound of muscle a month, you can’t feasibly add over 8 lbs. a month, 3 months in a row without AAS, GH, etc.
You don’t put pump fuel into a jet engine.
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by ElliotMatheny on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did it. I went from a distance athlete in college competing at 190 to 225 in a year. Thats 35 lbs for you math majors. On just protein and come GNC basics.
A lot of it is your metabolism. Not worrying about what you weigh helps. Taking creatine will add 10 lbs.
Assuming he was not lifting to get big before he jumped to HW, then tried to put on mass, 25 lbs is not much in a year. On roids HS football players have put on 25 lbs in 2 months.
Until he tests positive or kills his family, dont worry about it.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
While I have no proof he didn’t use roids, I don’t think UGA star wideout AJ Green used roids and in the past year he’s added 18+ pounds of muscle to a 6’4 frame. I think you have to account for height in how much muscle you can put on over a given period of time (AO is 6’5).
That said, my world wouldn’t be turned upside down if Megareem pissed hot…
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 9, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing I might say in defense of Green is that at his age, guys are still growing into their bodies, and there’s a chance that lifting, along with the natural “bulking up” that happens in the early 20’s (Tamdan McCrory?) can lead to that kind of muscle growth.
A stretch, I know, but food for thought.
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by woomikee on Nov 9, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yet the NBA has drug testing…and Chris Bosh is apparently clean…
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We already got the timeline done for cases like this

10/24
by spectaa on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so? that looks like a guy who didnt lift and was trying to keep his weight low, then started lifting and stopped worrying about a weight cut (ie neck fat)
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess Mousasi is roiding too because right now he is in the middle of that 2nd and 3rd pic. Every time we see him he’s bigger.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, gains muscle mass like a duck, and avoids drug testing jurisdictions, it just might be a duck.
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by toxic on Nov 9, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
His head
is enormous.
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by woomikee on Nov 9, 2009 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shawne Merriman
did test positive for roids and his head is tiny. It proves nothing.

by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I also don’t have before and after pictures sitting in front of me, as I do of Megareem.
Also, it’s mostly HGH that causes the head-enlargement, and I don’t think Merriman was caught with HGH.
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by woomikee on Nov 9, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no one is ever caught with HGH. You cant test for it.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can test for it, it’s just that it’s a very “invasive” test at this point – i.e. it requires drawing blood.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
even that test is debatable because it occurs naturally in your body. After doing sports drug tests, I would find drawing blood less “invasive” than having a guy stand behind me while my pants are around my ankles watching me pee!
by ryanwk628 on Nov 9, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Kurt Angle was caught with HGH. He had it in his car. If N/CSAC wont find PEDs in Overeem’s piss, then they should check his car…
by dancingChicken on Nov 9, 2009 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn’t Lesnar caught with HGH in his car too when he got arrested?
Start checking the cars!
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like how the actual pictures...
expand as the go left to right too – that’s a really nice optical trick there! :)
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well he does cover more space in the later pictures
by IRodC on Nov 9, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the picture was blown up!
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 9, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem id the better fight
i much rather see overeem fight fedor for many reasons one it would get him bsck in the states it better be for the title and it would make the show feel much BIGGER. Title matches sell more ppv generally so a advertised title match on CBS will do better . They need to step up the advertising though because my famliy who were watching the event were like there’s more then 1 fight we’ve only seen that fedor guy
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by MaZZacare on Nov 9, 2009 12:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
they're gonna need gina on the card if they do werdum/fedor.
rogers did a ton of promotion for the last fight, and with neither werdum or fedor speaking english, that’s not gonna be an option. much tougher sell with casual fans. unless the ratings for saturday’s main event show a huge spike, and they’re convinced fedor can sell it on his own.
also… did anyone ask coker if they still intend to do the third fedor fight (potentially against overeem) on pay-per-view? weren’t they alluding to that for awhile when he first signed?
by woooburn on Nov 9, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They’re gonna need Gina regardless. The show did ok numbers but not great, they need the good co-main that this show didn’t have to push it over the top.
by ufc4 on Nov 9, 2009 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all aboard the MEGAreem bandwagon
Not because I think he can beat Fedor, but just because I want to watch him fight in America and bring his K-1 skills to broadcast television.
by black dragon on Nov 9, 2009 12:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Werdum is a poor man's Nogueira
Frankly an uninteresting matchup. At least Rogers’ power was an X factor in their fight.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Overeem is a mystery, but just market him as The Demolition Man, everyone who knows the crappy stallone snipes movie is gonna want to see him
by IRodC on Nov 9, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can get overeem to dye his hair blonde, if he does, that has CBS main event written all over it
by IRodC on Nov 9, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Werdum is an awful fight. They have 3 Fedor fights, none should be about exposing him to an audience now, they should be big fights. Even Fedor/Andrei 2 would be better.
by Michael Rome on Nov 9, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On the plus side
with Rogers coming out of this loss looking like a legitimate fighter, maybe Andrei’s loss to him wasn’t as “rock bottom” as it first appeared to be.
by rzor on Nov 9, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
You can put the gun down, Andrei.
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s easily a winnable fight without a lot of dangers for Fedor though, and I wonder if they will just do it to get Fedor more exposure.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure this is whats going to happen. And I can’t wait =)
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What is the benefit for Strikeforce? They get him more exposure for their one fight left they have with him?
by Michael Rome on Nov 9, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Get him more exposure with a showdown with Overeem.
If the Overeem fight is absolutely out, then I’d go with Arlovski. I’m wondering if Monson is one of their mystery signees, although his loss to Rizzo was horribly lackluster.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
AA needs a W and then maybe a rematch with Brett. If he wins he can rematch Fedor. I’d love to see it again.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 9, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not a bad idea actually.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s what I would like to see. I don’t think it’ll happen but it is how I see the natural progression:
1) Fedor vs. Overeem in early spring.
2) If Overeem is unable or unwilling to fight that early then pair Werdum against Barnett (forecasting he gets out of his current troubles). Winner gets Fedor. If Werdum wins he deserves it.
3) Put Rogers vs. Bigfoot and Arlovski vs. Monson. Mini-tournament for next contender (especially if nothing can be done about Overeem)
4) Watch Fedor fight Lesnar in 2011!
by nottheface on Nov 9, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You act as if he won't sign on with Strikeforce again.
Fedor goes where M-1 can make the most money and gain the most recognition, and currently that place is Strikeforce, not the UFC.
by lowellthehammer on Nov 9, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So how much recognition did M1 get on the CBS card?
by mmalogic on Nov 9, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe we will at the K-1 GP Finals get a hint on how soon Overeem will return to fight in the US. The bracket looks favourable for Overeem and I see a possability of him figting in the final. If that is the case then I also believe we won’t be seeing him defending his title before autumn 2010 if at all. He’ll then be a huge name in Japan but a nobody in the US.
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by S.S on Nov 9, 2009 1:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A showdown with Hari again will be the real pleaser, but it could also be a real disappointment for Overeem. Hari is going to come hard this time, and he likely won’t be intimidated as he was before. He’ll have a massive chip on his shoulder for sure. It’ll be epic.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Overeem first
has a tough fight against Teixeria and Hari has a battle against Karaev. I’m not so sure I see Overeem advancing (or at least as easily as I see Hari moving on.)
by ThomasJ on Nov 9, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t find Teixiera a challenge. I think Overeem will use his size to bully Teixeira, who likes to stand at a distance and use kicks. Overeem is very unconventional in the K-1 ring as he comes forward, limits space. Bonjasky has the tools to counter than with knees, flying kicks with little space.
Karaev looked HORRIBLE against Gerges at Golden Glory. I mean, Karaev got his ass kicked badly.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To me fedor is the greatest cruiser weight (225-230) fighter who has cleaned out the division and is so good he now has to fight guys who are super heavy weight
by pandaboy99 on Nov 9, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Megareem?
What’s with the Megareem nickname? Überreem is a much cooler name.
by monkeyhead on Nov 9, 2009 3:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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by Leland Roling on Nov 9, 2009 4:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That is awesome.
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by iiowyn on Nov 9, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor/Werdum
Fedor/Rogers 2
I think the Megareem has flown the coop.
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