Strikeforce 'Fedor vs Rogers' Results: Fedor Emelianenko Finishes a Game Brett Rogers in Two
by Kid Nate on Nov 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST
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Fedor Emelianenko impressed a Chicago crowd by finishing a very game Brett Rogers in two rounds. A thunderous hook dropped Rogers in the second round and silenced an American crowd that had begun to chant U-S-A U-S-A in support of a plucky underdog in Brett Rogers who surprised everyone by giving the feared Fedor a very tough fight for a round and a little more.
Fedor was giving up size, weight and presumably power. But he came out aggressive and survived a scare when Rogers bloodied his nose with an early jab. Fedor threw his trademark hooks and battered Rogers repeatedly.
Rogers survived an initial takedown, fought his way to his feet and forced Fedor against the cage. Fedor got free and rocked him with a hook. Then took him down. Battered Rogers with a barrage of hooks before getting the takedown. But Rogers reversed and scored with ground and pound before Fedor escaped by looking for an arm bar. When Fedor reclaimed top position he fired with abandon. and looked for an arm triangle. But Rogers survived the round.
In the second Fedor caught Rogers with one of his signature looping hooks and followed up with ground and pound. Big John McCarthy stepped in and stopped the fight with 3:12 left in the 2nd round.
Some observers felt it was a premature stoppage.
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Grab a screen shot with Fedor’s face busted up, he won it but Brett made it a real fight.
by Limelight on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Brett was dribblin Fedor's head like a basketball for a mintue there.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a Fedor die hard and his cardio looked bad. I was really surprised that he made it out of that g&p. His timing and strategy is unmatched… his thinking is what got him out of this. Close call for Fedor.
If you watch it again, you can tell that Fedor had been watching a lot of tape and was keying in on Brett’s left jab from the opening seconds… finally got it.
by bleve_ on Nov 8, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fedor has been spiked on his head.. and your surprised he made it out of some gnp?
by pandaboy99 on Nov 8, 2009 2:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess i wasn’t surprised but I’ve never seen him take clean shots on the ground like that and I know roger’s hits hard as hell.
by bleve_ on Nov 8, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers did well in the first… he’s strong! We knew it would be a test of Fedor’s chin, and we knew it would be a test of Brett’s.
by verloc on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Once again, Fedor looked in dire straits until he blasted somebody’s chin into outerspace.
I was surprised we didn’t see any of Fedor’s GnP, but Brett looked AWESOME.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I doubt Brett Rogers no more. He had the so-called best ever in deep trouble early. I agree with his self assessment: He doubted himself for a split second. That’s why he lost. His size and strength kept Fedor honest, and Rogers looked pretty good working off his back…Grim is for real, and he will get another chance.
by Cmad77 on Nov 7, 2009 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A cut does not equal deep trouble.
Fedor has always been cut easily.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, but he hasn't always taken multuple unstoppable shots tot he face
while on the BOTTOM…
im fuckin impressed….
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 8, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That fight made me want to see Fedor/Brock more then any fight ever!
by MMA_Messiah on Nov 7, 2009 11:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Hell
Yea.
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by funnytiger on Nov 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure that stoppage was premature, we just didn’t NEED to see Fedor do his thing. Brett was not moving and was not about to recover from that.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
A few more seconds would have been fair… Brett covered up and rolled. If he’d taken 2 or three more then yeah, call it. It wasn’t a bad stoppage, I just think he could have given him a second.
by Limelight on Nov 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, I kinda agree… I think the stoppage was a bit quick, but Rogers would have started eating punches, he was just curled up on his side and even though Fedor was just getting into position to pound him and hadn’t yet… it was coming and he wasn’t moving to stop it
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he only took 1 shot after being knocked down..and he was looking at him
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers would have recieved brain damage
by Meshuggeth on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just look at his eyes when he looks up, he was out
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Early Stoppage!!
I hate John McCarthy. Fedor didn’t land one major shot on the ground. He rocked Rogers but come on. John McCarthy is not so much better than other refs and I am glad he is staying out of the UFC for now.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
a KO is a KO, no need for brain damage
brett covered up and stopped moving, that is exactly what is supposed to initiate the stoppage from a ref
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Forget it.
See the Video. I recorded it and saw it. Rogers had his head covered up and recovered just when John stopped it. I think Fedor could have knocked him out cold but John didn’t allow it. What brain damage. Not one punch landed on the ground.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the requirement for stoppage is a lack of “intelligent defense” not “brains on the mat”
if you want snuff, the internet is a good source
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:31 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I second that, go watch strikeboxing, cyrusking.
by sacterre on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you see bret leap to his feet in protest?
oh wait… thats right silly me
the man was colder than michael jackson
case closed buddy
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by blubber_guard on Nov 8, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can hear him complaining to McCarthy in the background after it’s called and a lot of people around him were keeping him down while the doctor looked him over.
An early stoppage in my opinion, but it was only a matter of time from that point.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please don’t start this crap. After every freaking card all people talk about is early stoppages or bad judging!
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They happen all the time, of course people will talk about them all the time.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a perfect stoppage, Rogers was out before he hit the ground and then he gave up his back and covered. John McCarthy did it just right.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
And he was on the mat for a while after the stoppage before he got up. I think one can take that as a good measure of whether it was a good stoppage.
No need to let a guy get battered unnecessarily.
by BTastros on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s people over him talking to him keeping him down there so a doctor can check if they need a stretcher. It’s not an indication of anything.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s funny because the guy that got knocked down didn’t seem too upset about the stoppage.
by ChillMike on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear cyanide helps anti-digestion. Maybe you should try some?
by ZombieWamma on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
he rocked him? he did a bit more i think…
by kovy on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aren’t you the guy that said Fedor is no longer a great fighter? and now this.
Yeah um Nate, is there an ignore feature on here? If not, can you work one up? Pretty please?
by Grappo on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah he totally changed the outcome of the fight.
Kidding.
10/24
by spectaa on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the replays
Roger’s went limp on the way down, and he was NOT all there when Fedor jumped in. He wasn’t covering up well, so he was semi-conscious showing little defense with one of the great GnP artists on top of him.
It was a good stoppage.
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't wanna sound sadistic
,but just because you can viciously hit someone before they wake up doesn’t mean that you’ll be able to destroy their frontal lobes before they do, just because of one partially blocked shot. That said, I understand that Brett didn’t dispute the stoppage, but that doesn’t mean that he wasn’t just accepting the facts that once a fight is called, it’s not going to be started again just because a fighter said he was ok. internet grammer nazi says “run on sentence”…i called it on myself
by dugmouth on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just because you can viciously hit someone before they wake up
Doesn’t that sentence alone prove that it was a good stoppage?
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ummmm Brett...
It wasn’t Fedor asking for a rematch…..it was Gus’ weird way of giving you some props. Get your brain unscrambled before you open your mouth.
by Daveyboy on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gus Johnson really needs to be kept off MMA broadcasts. He’s doing more harm than good.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He is terrible.
"I see him beating Anderson Silva. I see him picking him apart. Him at a 131 years old...(trails off)." - Tito Ortiz on Vitor Belfort at Affliction:DOR
by Rundownloser on Nov 8, 2009 1:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the broadcasting team did relatively well. All 3 were better than usual, especially Frank.
Taking out Gus and putting in Quadros would be golden though.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes, I thought Frank was the worst of the three. He couldn’t even bring himself to have an opinion on which fighter was winning a round.
Quadros and Bas would be gold. It just seems like a no-brainer to hire them. Maybe it’s my Pride fan roots showing, but they really were the best. Need to get Bas interested again, that’s all.
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by a tommy point on Nov 8, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frank said stuff and most of the stuff he said made sense. That’s good for frank.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
especially watching the replay
early stoppage
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he was still defending himself with the fetal guard.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
sry
but he only got hit once, and that was blocked. He was looking at Fedor, was covering up and got hit once on the hands. He coulda taken another shot or to to the hands without being knocked out.
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i thought i was gonna be stopped earlier when it as standing an rogers was defending himself like that. he covers up to defend the flurry. (i dont represent that it is a good defense, just that it is the way some fighters do it)
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"when it was standing"
sry i almost couldn’t read that
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the point of competative sports
combat sports especially, isn’t to hit someone as many times as you can, to prove you win
if thats what you’re interested in, you should probably go watch to fat old guys banging the shit out of each other outside a bar.. its sport, not punishment
it doesn’t matter how many times he hit him when he was down, the fashion in which he DID go down, adn the one shot that followed, was enough for me, then …rogers didn’t sparcely leap up and say hey wait im ok!
that should be a clue to you, that the man himself being hit, knew he was done
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by blubber_guard on Nov 8, 2009 1:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agree
John is a mess. Thank god he is out of the UFC. I think Fedor would have knocked Roger out cold. It was a great fight. But John had to ruin it.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why did we need to see him
unconscious? He was obviously done, that’s good enough.
by ufc4 on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t agree that he was done. hurt, yes. done, i dont think so. but then again i’ve never been knocked out.
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like big john
and i dont think he’s a bad ref, but i didnt think i was trolling.
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t say “John is a mess. Thank god he is out of the UFC,” so I don’t think you are trolling either.
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by capital L on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oops, working on the easy to follow who replied to who thing. i’m slow
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor is
still going to run through Strikeforce’s heavyweight stable. I just hope he fights some current UFC champs. I know that means he’ll have to either see/think that M-1’s being unreasonable with their demands or that he’ll start to care about his fight legacy and compete against the percieved best in the world.
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brock Lesnar is somewhere smiling…If Brett did that imagine what Lesnar could do.
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Crocop was smiling when he saw this…….
and we all know what happened after that.
by ChillMike on Nov 7, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
And fedor wasn’t even close to THIS tonight.
10/24
by spectaa on Nov 8, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My point exactly. I still find it hilarious that a pro wrestler was the closest to “beating” Fedor.
by ChillMike on Nov 8, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m too busy imagining what would happen to Lesnar after Fedor landed a hook like that on him.
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by capital L on Nov 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar would be KOed by Fedor. His chin in untested.
by TDITZ on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so then how do you know he would be KO’ed?
by soadtrails on Nov 7, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone would be KO'd by that
I’m not sure there is a human out there that can take a punch like that.
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by achengy on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar's head is a 20lb medicine ball
and he tends to take things to the ground, but you never know…
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah cutting someones nose with a jab and g’n’p where 3 punches landed (and didn’t even phase the guy) – and otherwise getting dominated and KO’d badly…
Really instilling confidence.
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I momentarily questioned the stoppage, but seeing a few replays showed it was well justified.
Even so, great fight. Rogers has a future for sure. He took big shots from fedor, and got up off his back, I’m more than impressed. Great job Brett, you lost to the best, no shame in that. Tim Sylvia got embarrassed, you just lost. Keep fighting man!
by Miketsi on Nov 7, 2009 11:29 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
REMATCH!!
Why in the hell did Gus ask Fedor for a rematch. That was dumb Gus. Go hide in a corner
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cause he’s not intellectually gifted. I believe the technical term for a person with an IQ below 50 is ‘imbecile’.
by Daveyboy on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he bobs his head when he talks
which one can only assume is to try and count the syllables in each sentence he says
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 8, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
someone who doesn't know anything about MMA?
To Gus’s mind, maybe this really was the biggest fight ever.
by BTastros on Nov 7, 2009 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I would think he was told to mention that to hype a rematch, but I can’t imagine that’s a fight anyone wants next for Fedor.
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Now I want to see ROGERS/LESNAR
with Fedor cleaning up the mess afterwards
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Exactly. Rogers would pose HUGE problems for Lesnar.
by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I was a bit unimpressed with Fedor. Major holes in his game for the “god of mma” against someone as one-dimensional as Rogers. But the guy still has skills and def. hits hard. Can’t wait to see Fedor work his way up to better fighters.
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:32 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
where?
They aren’t in Strikeforce
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by crinow on Nov 7, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Werdum, Bigfoot, Overeem?
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by Beer Monster on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
c’mon beer monster you know they aren’t competitive fights.
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by the fight what you saw, in the ring"
by crinow on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t say they were competitive fights (except Overeem). I said they’re better fighters than Rogers.
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by Beer Monster on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless they can get him in there with Overeem. (I have my doubts.)
by Michaelthebox on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Aren’t there two more top ten HW’s in strikeforce? Their HW champ, if he ever can get off the roids long enough to fight in the US and come defend his belt; might be ok. But yea, I see what you mean.
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's not roids
it’s amsterdam “horse meat”, totally different.
by dugmouth on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The way Rogers had fedor against the cage throwing knees and how he did damage in GNP. i can see why they decided to sign with strikeforce and not UFC. Brock is rogers size but with a better skill set. This fight didnt show us Lesnar would win but it did show us Fedor would have a hell of a hard time
"Frank Mir had a horseshoe up his ass. I told him a year ago. I pulled it out of him and I beat him over the head with it." Brock Lesnar
by pitbull187 on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone would have a hard time with Lesnar, I don’t think we needed this fight to show us that.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, I just feel if Fedor keeps it on the feet then Brock doesn’t have a chance
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and what happens if Fedor gets Brock on the ground?
by ChillMike on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
wrestlers don’t like being on their backs, but Brock’s 280 vs Fedors 230, I think he’d be able to get out of it unless he managed to fall in a fully dominant position maybe
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rogers powered out of everything on the ground. if brett can do it brock deff can. Brock is bigger faster stronger brett with a dominate wrestling base. Also brock loves throwing knees in the clinch and rogers was having some success.
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by pitbull187 on Nov 7, 2009 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yea, he would def have to catch Brock standing like he did with Rogers. If it went to the ground, I think Lesnar would be able to control him.
I’m stil linterested to see if Carwin can catch Brock a couple times with good shots so we can get a good test of his chin.
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he doesn’t need to work his way up to anyone. he just needs to come to the UFC and clean out the heavyweight division to shut everyone up that he is the greatest
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please remind me what holes there were?
His skin is thin? He just owned some dude but he’s got “holes” in his game that I’ve yet to see pointed out?
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not going to argue with people back and forth all night on the internet. There were holes, they were easy to see. If you take off the Fedor glasses and watch the fight. It’s ok to admit he is human.
by JeremyShane on Nov 8, 2009 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“Look, I’m not going to lower myself by actually supporting my argument, so just accept that I’m right, OK?”
by JRN on Nov 8, 2009 1:40 AM EST up reply actions 7 recs
oh rec'd until my fingers bleed
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 8, 2009 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
LOFL. I take my hat off to you sir. If I could rec you on mobile I would a million times!
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by The_Gaijin on Nov 8, 2009 2:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The way Rogers went down reminded me of when Kos was kinda sorta knocked out and the ref stepped in on that one. Perfect stoppage.
by soadtrails on Nov 7, 2009 11:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not trolling here but I wanted Fedor to knock Rogers out cold
Considering that we see Fedor once every year, I wanted to see 3 or 5 rounds. Rogers did surprise me on the ground though. I though he was done after the first throw.
Hats off to Fedor but I hate John McCarthy with a passion. Fedor would have won. Rogers said he was going to let Fedor touch him before the fight and he went down once that happened.
If StrickeForce gives us Werdum Fedor, that’d be a terrible way to go forward.
Give us: Fedor vs. Overeem
Werdum vs. Rogers
Winners fight again?
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Go tell Brett Rogers to his face you wanted to see him out cold.
See what he thinks of that.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Early stoppage?
I don’t understand how anyone can say that was an early stoppage. That was the definition of a knockout punch. When Rogers landed on the ground, his arms sprawled to the side and it took him a couple seconds to even bring his hands to his face – and even then, if you look closely, his eyes were closed and he was clearly out of it.
by neyvit on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you’re right…and if it was an early stoppage you think Rogers would have been raising hell about it.
by soadtrails on Nov 7, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Quit being silly
People here no better than an actual fighter does.
by ChillMike on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
touche
but why wasn’t the fight stopped after he hit the ground? Fedor walked around him and then threw a half blocked punch. (from the fetal position, we all need sleep) Then the fight was stopped.
by dugmouth on Nov 8, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Big John is a hell of a ref and gave him a chance to see if he’d intelligently defend himself and he didn’t. The first punch was blocked but he landed the second shot and Rogers was in the fetal position not fighting back.
Again there’s a reason why Rogers didn’t complain. He had no idea where he was. Seriously just LISTEN to that punch land. It sounded like Fedor cracked a bat on Roger’s head.
Yikes can’t believe I said “no” instead of “know”.
by ChillMike on Nov 8, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, and you can be out with your eyes open. He was staring at the lights, not Fedor.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t even want to see him fight Brock anymore. I would rather see him fight Anderson. Who do you think would take that?
by FarrisD on Nov 7, 2009 11:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Overeem Fedor next?
I don’t want to see Werdum anywhere near Fedor.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why not
To keep Fedor busy until Overeem is done with the K-1 and whatever else he decides to do other than fight stateside, it seems prudent to do Werdum/Fedor.
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by capital L on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Please no
I rather see a rematch between Rogers Fedor than that fight. Werdum has NO shot at beating Fedor. I thought he lost his fight tonight. Maybe Silva vs. Fedor would have been better. oh well.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People thought Rogers had no shot either. I’d say a BJJ world champion has at least a little bit of a shot there.
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by Beer Monster on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If Nog couldn’t do it, Werdum can’t.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see Werdum as a competitive opponent, I just don’t see how Werdum beats him. Brett Rogers had his size and punching power, Werdum is bigger than Fedor (like everyone else) but it’s not as extreme. He’s got pillow hands.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Strikeforce said they want to “build Fedor up” with a couple fights before he fights Overeem. So I think Rogers and then Werdum are the two he would fight before Overeem.
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What you guys think of Rogers Ground game?
Fedor beat him but I thought the fight was done after like the first minute. Velasquez was talking about him like he was a novice. He didn’t get subbed. That’s a moral victory? haha.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think his ground game is based on how big and strong he is. Not really a skill based game.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hell, I was impressed that he didn't get tapped
I think it was more due to his physical strength than anything else, but he looked comfortable working off his back. He wasn’t nervous, wasn’t lost at all.
by Cmad77 on Nov 7, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he did well enough to not get caught and stay calm. Which I know everyone is talking about his strength, but Fedor has tapped guys stronger than him before, so it’s more than just being stronger. Not saying it doesn’t help, but at least Rogers didn’t do anything stupid and lose that way.
by JeremyShane on Nov 7, 2009 11:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers positional escapes and sub awareness was really good
fedor couldn’t pin him or pull off any GnP. For a guy who likes to KO, Brett certainly has all his bases covered. I was IMPRESSED with his performnce.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
As someone who rarely watches MMA
And knowing he wasn’t exactly facing top opposition, I find it hard to believe that Fedor is actually the best out there based on that performance. Was much more impressed by Machida’s last fight. And I doubt Fedor even tries that shot against better comp. If he misses, it leaves him wide open to all kinds of counters.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:46 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
You were impressed by Machida last performance? Really?
by tichbou on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It wasn't exciting, but he dominated start to finish
Or maybe it was two fights ago.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
against Shogun or Rashad Evans? you remember?
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Evans I believe
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
That wasn’t his last fight, that was 2 fights ago. Hence a lot of our confusion
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can see your viewpoint
But I think comparing boxing dominance to MMA dominance is like comparing football dominance to the NBA.
MMA isn’t like boxing where one fighter dominates like a chess board slowly moving his opponent into checkmate. Ok, sometimes it does but with Fedor that analogy couldn’t be further from the truth.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 2:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmm. I got nothing. I mean, Machida is my favorite mma fighter (followed by Fedro), but I’m not sure what you’re talking about. His fight against Evans was impressive and exciting, and his fight against Shogun wasn’t exciting and very disappointing. idk.
by tichbou on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fedor's biggest asset is his ability to stay calm and find the win
standing, ground, sub, gnp, etc. he has gotten tested a LOT and always pulls through.
by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
you have a point... but actually, he always gets people with that kind of hook.
this one probably had a bit more weight in it though.
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 8, 2009 4:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Brett Rogers needs to learn how to act post fight
he sounded like a thug and not a professional.
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Can Overeem finish Fedor?
I though Rogers was going to finish Fedor when Fedor was bleeding but of course he didn’t punch enough. Can Overeem finish Fedor? I think Carwin may be the only guy with the knock out punch to beat Fedor if he touches Fedor. Big if though. Very big if.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is top competition and Fedor is the best out there. The only other Heavyweight that compares with him is Lensnar then there is a huge dropoff in record and ability. Fedor may not look that impressive, and his boxing is unorthodox, but he always finds a way to win.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's a sad state when a guy less than 10 fights into his career can be regarded that highly
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's mma, not boxing.... that's just how it is
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Once MMA is more developed, it won't be that way anymore
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, Lesnar is a bit of an exception to the rule.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Understood
But once you have a crop of guys who have been training exclusively in MMA since they were 12 years old, it will be difficult for a novice to come in and dominate, no matter how good they are in similar sports. It’s just a sign of a young sport. Not a knock on MMA at all.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Calling it a “sad state” isn’t a knock on MMA?
by JRN on Nov 8, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Boxing is completely different though. If Rogers were a boxer he would have two or three times as many fights w/o the step up in competition of say an Andrei Arlovski.
And HW MMA is more unpredictable than almost anything else because you have BIG dudes w/small gloves. AA probably doesn’t get brutally KO’d in a boxing match w/Rogers and thus it is hard to compare the two.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. A fighter typically makes a jump in the level of their competition after around 8-10 victories. Nothing abnormal about Rogers’ rise. Especially considering he was coming off a dominant victory against a highly regarded opponent.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 8, 2009 12:39 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Its a sad state when a guy fights 40 scrubs just so he can say hes 40-0 before he starts facing real competition.
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 7, 2009 11:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True as well
But we don’t tend to give credit to guys like JCC Jr. either
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by Brickhaus on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Lesnar has Mono
There is a good chance he will never be the same. I do want to see Carwin or Velasquez against Fedor though.
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he got mono man, hell be fine it will just be a while
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 7, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
obviously, you know nothing about mono then
there are athletes who have never been the same after mono. And Lesnar is not known for being in love with anything. I can see him walking away from the sport in a year or two to pursue I don’t know Grizzly bear hunting championshiop
by cyrusking on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea I do know about mono, a guy on my basketball team got it and he was out a long time but when he came back he was just as good as ever. Maybe you dont know as much as you think
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 8, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’ve seen guys recover 100%
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
he didn't
pull a Magic Johnson. It’s usually not a serious disease. Unless he’s lost interest in fighting, which was brought up in another post. I dunno, you think he’ll quit something that gives him the opportunity to legally hurt people (unless he moves overseas where he’ll have a few less rules on the hurting procedure).
by dugmouth on Nov 8, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What? He has Mono, not gonoherpasyphalaids.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, but he has the size, power, speed, wrestling cred, and the belt.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Having a hard time replying, cuz I iz dumb.
by TopperHarley on Nov 7, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Some people are just so angry Fedor won again. I guess they’ll just have to keep on hating.
by MrJobro on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to know
why fans go to these fights and boo! Do they not know what they are coming to see. Fights are going to hit the ground. Stop booing!
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
couldnt agree more
i cant stand that at all and I feel it influenced a couple premature standups
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 7, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
why spend that much money to go to these fights and not be a true fan and educated. It drives me nuts!
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 7, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It was kind of funny because on commercials I was watching the UFC replay of Couture/Nog and in that fight when Nog had the arm triangle and Randy got his arm out the crown cheered, it was the complete opposite on strikeforce they had no idea what was going on
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 8, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me?
Please don’t tell me that UFC viewers are somehow more intelligent than the people that attended the Strikeforce. Newsflash: anybody thats at the Strikeforce event is already a diehard fan of UFC. This isn’t a sideshow promotion like EliteXC with Kimbo.
And UFC crowds ‘boo’ very loudly and very often. I find it pretty embarrassing as a fan when they do.
by neyvit on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The nog/couture fight was an exception
that crowd LOVED the ground game. Same with the Penn/Florian fight, huge roar when BJ passed Florian’s guard
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s cause portland is a fucking awesome city.
by tichbou on Nov 8, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Won't dispute that at all
the crowd was one of my favorite parts of that fight
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s what I’m saying. fans that go to these fights should be hardcore fans and know not to boo. I don’t get it
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 8, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rogers is done. His chin was exposed I think.
I doubt Dana will sign him as he has the stigma of losing to Fedor. Until Dana gets Fedor in the UFC, he is not going to sign people who lose to him.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That punch would have knocked out anyone.
by tichbou on Nov 8, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a hell of a lot of leverage behind that punch
I’m usually not in the “that punch would KO anyone camp”, but there are plenty of guys with solid chins that the punch would have knocked down.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 8, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
if that was "chin exposure"
then virtually nobody has a chin.
by BTastros on Nov 8, 2009 12:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't you know the rule?
Any fighter who ever gets KOed by anything has a glass chin.
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you are trolling. That punch would have dropped a Rhino and the stigma of losing to Fedor is something one of his top HWs already has X2.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, he’s been trolling all night.
by TopperHarley on Nov 8, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but we already know Dana likes Buck Rogers ;)
I am not trolling. Rogers said, “after I knock out Fedor, Dana will be looking for my number.” I don’t think it will be happening anytime soon now that he got dropped and screwed by John McCarthy
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure this guy is just trolling but....
Someone who is less lazy than me needs to go through the HW UFC roster and count how many of these ‘scrubs that got beat by Fedor’ Dana White has signed.
I don’t often call for bans, but reading cyrusking’s posts make my eyes hurt.
by neyvit on Nov 8, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’ve flagged several of his posts. Bunch of inflammatory nonsense and insults.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 8, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
whatever. When did I insult you?
Please. I never insult people. You practically worship Fedor. I never insulted you or anyone on this site. But you go ahead.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You insult us
by implying that we’re not capable of making rational decisions, you assume that anything we say that disagrees with your view is due to the fact that we simply worship Fedor.
You’re saying that we are sheep, and that is VERY insulting.
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the part
where Fedor hit him in the face super hard.
by tichbou on Nov 8, 2009 12:02 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
anyone else think Fedor looked even fatter than usual
dont get me wrong hes always chubby but he looked fat tonight. I assume he was trying to recover some of the size advantage he was giving up.
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 8, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
his Buddha was representing…no doubt.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I did notice that
seemed like his gut was bulging a little more than usual
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
His fat seemed looser than usual than me.
by bignerd on Nov 8, 2009 3:05 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
how does everyone feel
Brett would do against the UFC heaveyweights. Cain? Shane? Kongo? Mir? Nog?
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 8, 2009 12:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
probably depends on if and how quickly he can land a hard shot on one of those guys. Rogers seems like a feast or famine kind of guy. His wrestling, ground game and cardio seem like they could cost him.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah his cardio scares me. I feel that he is learning though. He's only had 11 fights. I think he needs to look at this night in a positive way.
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 8, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine him at say 240-250…I think he would be a beast if he did not lose any muscle mass.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he could be a scary force. I think Cain and Brock could take him down and keep him there though
by TruthSeeker1223 on Nov 8, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes, he would have to catch guys like that coming in and not just give up the takedown like Kongo/Rothwell did.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he might be ok. He might not have good offensive bjj but he did a good job of getting out of bad spots. One thing that could cost him though is his takedown defense wasnt as good as I thought it might be given his size.
by xbuckeyex05 on Nov 8, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like to see Rogers vs. Werdum
Let’s see how good Roger’s ground game is. The next fight should definitely be Fedor vs. Overeem. I am glad Randy never fought Fedor though. He’d be knocked out fast.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
How bout Rogers vs. Bigfoot at Easter Island….EA Sports…its in the game.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bigfoot would have no chance against EA Sports Brett Rogers. That guy looked incredible.
by tichbou on Nov 8, 2009 12:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, but its ON Easter Island…home-field advantage.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In retaliation against the early stoppage crap
I was actually thinking “why didn’t john stop the fight?” after fedor rocked him. Then it was like “oh well, Fedor’s GnP begins”, then John stopped it after 2 punches. So it wasn’t early, considering the KO, but it was early considering the GnP.
by ontite on Nov 8, 2009 12:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
John is a terrible ref
And he obviously didn’t think of his future when he bad mouthed everyone. Oh well. Better than Mazagatti but not too much better.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why is he a terrible ref? Rogers was laying on his side like he has been shot. Fedor didn’t even try to hit him after he saw his face.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Where are the mods?
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 8, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have seen you talk tonight
You have not added one ounce of thought or value to this forum. What’s your problem with me? I don’t hate Fedor. I am just bringing up some questions. I don’t worship Fedor like you do. You and TruthSeeker1223, and a bunch of you are ganging on me for saying that it was stopped early? So we can’t talk in this forum anymore? It’s either what you like to hear or we are trolls?
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Expecting people to take you seriously for saying, over and over, that Big John is a bad referee and, further, that he somehow “screwed” Brett Rogers is absurd. Telling people to “STFU”, or “Go away fanboy”, who point this out to you is pretty clear evidence that you are indeed trolling.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 8, 2009 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Tommy. I really have no problem with you.
I am not looking to pick a fight with you or anyone. I thought John screwed up. That’s what I honestly think. but you leave the same “troll” comment on all my comments. So basically, you want dictatorship here not freedom of speech. I did not insult you. But you annoy me with your attitude. but go ahead. Flag me all you want. I am here to discuss MMA. If you and your buddies won’t allow that to happen, then let the site kick me out.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just think he gets too much break from people who are blind to see his flaws
I am obviously under attack by Fedor fan boys so I’ll not talk about the early stoppage but he did make another mistake in that earlier fight I believe. Don’t remember it clearly though.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana, don’t you have a video blog to shoot?
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 8, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
And he obviously
didn’t think of his future when he bad mouthed everyonewas thinking about the well fair of Mr. Rogers.
Fixed
Hello, Japan!
by Mr.Kib on Nov 8, 2009 5:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
@Kid Nate
How do I close my account? I won’t be a part of a forum that takes sides and tries to censor. Please do as you wish with my account. I am leaving Bloody Elbow effective now. Just for last parting shot, you should allow people the ability to close their accounts by themselves without having to beg you.
Goodbye Bloody Elbow.
by cyrusking on Nov 8, 2009 12:48 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
Is this supposed to scare anyone. Thank freaking god, and good riddance. I have a few more people you can take with you if you got the space…
by neyvit on Nov 8, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I heard the price is right loser horn go off in my head after reading this sad post.
by Big4Nuthin' on Nov 8, 2009 1:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
lolled and woke the girlfriend up, thanks a lot
by judonerd on Nov 8, 2009 2:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
!
…peeks back in to see if anyone noticed he slammed the door…
by Django Z on Nov 8, 2009 12:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Goold Fight Good Stoppage
Fedor was on his way to completely bust Rogers temples when Big John stopped it. The role of the ref is to protect the fighters from unnecesary damage. Rogers was done. Fedor is a great fighter. But so was Rogers. I was scared for Fedor cause Rogers is a monster.
Anyway, killer KO shot—-Fedor’s whole body was positioned like a missile launching. Woohoo!
by wandyman on Nov 8, 2009 1:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Fedor cuts sooo
easily. This is why he will never fight with rules that allow elbows to a downed fighter.
I really want to see Anderson vs Fedor, I think Spider actually would defeat him.
by Riney on Nov 8, 2009 1:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Good, fights ending via cut are the lamest thing since Kimbo’s mma career.
by ChillMike on Nov 8, 2009 1:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Premature stoppage?
Nay, I say. Rogers went limp after that shot and hit the canvas like a ragdoll (watch how his head snaps back). The one shot that Fedor connected on the ground bounced Rogers head of the mat. He was DONE.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." - Bullet Tooth Tony
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 8, 2009 1:23 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
yea, he looked pretty done. Some fighters will come back a bit once their head bangs into the matt which might have accounted for his trying to get his arms and legs up to defend. But that doesn’t mean that Rogers was ok.
Personally, I might have let Fedor get a dominant position and hit him one or two more times to be on the safe side for a major fight; but Big John is a damn good ref and knows better than I do.
by JeremyShane on Nov 8, 2009 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, is it just me or is he pulling the machida straight-followed by-hip-
by judonerd on Nov 8, 2009 2:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
straight followed by hip/shoulder disruption
posting fail much? yes, much.
by judonerd on Nov 8, 2009 2:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor didn’t want Rogers to drop on the star…
It looked like he was trying to take him down after that punch but Rogers went stiff.
by dancingChicken on Nov 8, 2009 7:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Man, Fedor’s speed is still quite amazing.
by grein on Nov 8, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can i just point out again that fedor is 5 FOOT 11!!!! and 230 lbs? how can anyone say hes not pound for pound best fighter when he beats guys 30-40 lbs heavier than him.. thats like kenny florian fighting rampage jackson weight discrepancy
by pandaboy99 on Nov 8, 2009 2:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
actually if kenny was the example. it would be against Nate Marquardt. 155+30=185
and that’s actually a flawed argument..
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 8, 2009 4:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like saying a 45 year old to a 40 year old is like a 20 year old to a 15 year old.
It’s a log scale, you need to compress it as the numbers get higher
by Shaun32887 on Nov 8, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
mmm Crow it tastes so good….hay why are my pockets empty. I loved that fight.
Hello, Japan!
by Mr.Kib on Nov 8, 2009 5:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
The fight looked stopped early to me but if Rogers didn’t protest then who am I to judge. BJM was clearly showing his bias in the fight though. I have never seen him watch a guy for holding the fence ever as much as he did with Rogers, he warned him what? 4-5 times?
BJM used to be a ref that was there for the fighters but I can’t help but think he was there for the health of M1 more than anyone actually competing in the cage last night.
It’s a shame because I used to enjoy watching him ref but to me it seems pretty clear he had an agenda as well last night.
by pr0cs on Nov 8, 2009 9:25 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
…
I was considering typing out an actual reply with counter arguments about how McCarthy always lets the grappling go on because he realizes this is MMA and not kickboxing. Then I remembered that this is a troll post and decided to listen to keyboard cat on youtube.
by KrmtDfrog on Nov 8, 2009 9:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He warned Rogers about fingers in the fence because he kept doing it? What the heck are you talking about?
by omigawda on Nov 8, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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