Strikeforce Preview: Fedor Emelianenko vs. Brett Rogers
Saturday's main event heavyweight showdown between Fedor Emelianenko (30-1, 1 NC) and Brett Rogers (10-0) could go down as another easy victory for the indestructible force that is "The Last Emperor", or it could go down as a shocking upset victory and the end of an era of dominance. As with nearly every single fight in which Fedor Emelianenko is involved in these days, the storyline is the same and the tension and pressure falls onto the MMA fanbase. While most of us are eagerly awaiting the battle as anxious onlookers, it's surprising how easily we are now succumbing to the influence of the media into the possibility that this match-up could turn out to be a true upset of a great fighter.
Should we be this anxious? It's an interesting piece of the puzzle to analyze. Years ago during Fedor's PRIDE reign, I felt much more at ease watching Fedor completely crush his competition by way of quick transitioning submission holds, explosive lunging hooks, and pure dominance in the ground and pound game, but those easy feelings that Fedor will simply cruise through his competition have passed despite Fedor's two most recent victories over Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski.
Most fans considered the Sylvia win as a superior fighter feeding on a very one-dimensional giant who had become relatively ineffective. It didn't help Fedor any in that Sylvia went on to lose to professional boxer Ray Mercer, but his bout with Andrei Arlovski only drew more criticism that Fedor's weaknesses were becoming more and more apparent with age.
What many fans seem to forget is just how amazing Fedor Emelianenko is as a fighter. He's one of the first fighters in history to be equally great at nearly all aspects of mixed martial arts. He can grapple both offensively and defensively with some of the best jiu-jitsu fighters in the world while also putting those same world-renowned fighters into serious danger. When he exploded onto the scene in PRIDE, his ground and pound tactics were some of the most brutalizing pieces of footage you could ever show anybody new to MMA, and those fans would sit in amazement and be drawn in.
For a heavyweight, his hand speed and transitioning ability is blazing fast. He's arguably one of the fastest transition fighters on the ground, and while his striking isn't the most technical -- It's quick, accurate, and one of the best masking techniques to work for takedowns. He could also be considered one of the most intelligent fighters in the game today, and he's highly underrated for the determination and conditioning he's shown in past fights.
How could this fight even be considered legitimately close by any fan, you might ask? It truly stems from the power that Brett Rogers has displayed in his short ten-fight career. He's ended all but two fights in the first round via knockout, and he polished off former UFC champion Andrei Arlovski in only 0:22 seconds. That's really where all of the hype ends, but it's an impressive list of wins with a lot of questions that have yet to be answered.
Can Rogers can somehow exploit the weaknesses of Fedor with his hands? Fedor is known to have problems dealing speedy hands as evident in the Arlovski fight, but Rogers doesn't present that kind of speed or technical boxing ability. Fedor could be damaged by the power of Rogers, but that would require some surgical striking with power that will likely end with Fedor gaining a takedown and submitting Rogers.
It's pretty obvious among fans that Rogers' chances in this fight are pretty slim. We haven't seen anything resembling a ground game from him, and he's been matched up against mostly strikers in his short career. Fedor can compete at a high level in both the stand-up and ground game, but his strategy will most likely revolve around a quick initial flurry followed by a takedown. Rogers' best opportunity will be during that initial flurry, but does he have the speed to connect before Fedor's strength put Rogers to the floor?
Of course, that strategy has been something we've talked about in a plethora of match-ups that Fedor has been involved in, and it never works out. Why exactly? Most opponents that Fedor has faced have been humbled by his deceptive strength, speed, and tenacity once the fight begins. Sylvia said that Fedor's punches were the hardest he had ever been hit, and that nobody in the UFC could rival the kind of power he was outputting. The same could be heard from the muscle-ridden wrestlers, proficient strikers, and ground wizards of PRIDE, and I think we'll hear the same from Brett Rogers come Saturday night.
While I think Rogers has a puncher's chance to beat Fedor in the opening moments of this fight, it's a far reach for me to believe he'll be fast enough to catch "The Last Emperor" with a phantom punch that will down the former PRIDE heavyweight champion. Fedor's speed and ground work will ultimately win him this bout inside the first round.
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Having Balls has nothing to do with it. I have a brain and anybody else who has a brain knows how this fight will end. Fedor by Submission round 1.
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I was going to start my comment the same way, but my ending is different: Rogers by freak accident TKO Rd. 1
by casey manrique on Nov 7, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, try picturing in your head Fedor getting knocked out by Rogers in the first. Then try picturing in your head, a brief exchange slipped by Fedor, a clinch where Rogers is suddenly frantically defending a take-down, then picture Fedor getting the takedown, and 25 seconds later he’s got an armbar. It’s almost as if it already happened.
So excited to see Fedor fight tonight.
by Nick Thomas on Nov 7, 2009 10:16 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Die lol
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t think people (hardcore fans) are excited for this fight, because it will be a competitive test for the Russian. They are excited because Fedor is fighting. I really believe he could be fighting ANYONE, and we’d all be stoked to see a living legend go out there and battle. Now, if he was fighting against Brock Lesnar in the UFC, I probably would be doing cartwheels today, and MUCH more interested in what the outcome would be, but oh well. I think it’s cool the US will be seeing Fedor on network TV.
I’d charish this event, fellas. I don’t see him bringing in ratings, and I’ve seen nothing as far as a promotional push by strikeforce. In the past two weeks, I’ve actually seen more commercials advertising Brock Lesnar vs. Shane Carwin, than the upcoming Strikeforce card. Something is wrong with that….
by Miketsi on Nov 7, 2009 10:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
do others think this is a competitive fight? Rogers hasn’t fought the level of competition necessary to step up to this level. Please don’t say Arlovski.
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Was thinking the same thing, lol
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by funnytiger on Nov 7, 2009 1:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah
I would say every n00b that’s watching this fight because they want to see two dudes fight, would probably think the big black guy is going to kill the out of shape white guy.
Kinda like how if you walked up to average joe casual mma fan, and ask if they know who Kimbo Slice or Fedor is, they would say Kimbo.
Gotta realize, not everyone obsesses about this stuff the way we we. Especially the audience that a network TV show brings in.
Has Brett Rogers been told that the fight is going to be a 5 rounder?
Keep firing Assholes!
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I mean, I don’t think it will really matter… This fight won’t make it out of the second round, one way or another..
It is NOT going to be a 5 rounder
the WAMMA belt will be contested on a 3-5 minute round fight.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 7, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
3 rounds? Wow, that really adds to the mystique of the WAMMA title.
by casey manrique on Nov 7, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Because everyone seems to think that Fedor is god around here, what excuses will the hardcore community give Fedor if Rogers knocks him out? I betting that if it happens Fedor is going to has some kind of injury going into the fight or swine flu. Then everyone will get into the conversation about how he had 30lbs on him and so on.Personally I hope that Rogers does knock him out. I would love to see how everyone would react to it.
Why do we need excuses?
If Fedor gets knocked out by Rogers, great for Brett Rogers.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Give me a break. If Fedor loses grown men are going to cry. Everyone has been on the god Fedor band wagon for so long and defended him at every turn and used him as the answer for most questions for so long that if he loses people are going to be in such a shock that they will need to have his defeat justified.
Right. If Fedor gets KO’d tonight it doesn’t change the fact that he has been absolutely dominant over the last 10 years.
by ufc4 on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
dominant over 'fighters'
every time you step into a cage/ring it’s a fight and anything can happen, and yet, Fedor has been victorious. and in dominating fashion i must say
you guys prove my point that if Fedor loses grown ass men are gonna cry. A bunch of Fedor nuthuggers
Who in his weight class has fought a tougher lineup than him over the past decade?
by ufc4 on Nov 7, 2009 2:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We're not gonna cry, everyone loses eventually
we’re just saying that he’s had a great run. Calm down.
It’ll mean nothing more than Fedor has a loss to me. I mean they’re going in there to fight, and both guys are going to be trying to beat the other so obviously even the most ardent fan understands the possibility that Fedor will lose. He has to lose eventually, he is getting older, but a loss doesn’t change what he’s done for the sport, the epic battles he’s won, and the fact that he’s the most dangerous fighter around. You think that if Rogers knocks him out that people won’t be afraid of him anymore? I doubt it. He’ll still have the mystique.
I’ve been saying it for days. The way to beat Fedor is patient countering, controlling spacing and forcing him to continually reset. Rogers doesn’t really do the “patient” thing that I’ve seen. I really, really enjoy Brett but I think he falls into that low percentage “catch Fedor in an exchange” group. Like the piece I wrote on Fedor’s striking said…Fujita was relatively successful prior to clipping Fedor in that fight…it wasn’t just the one punch. I wonder if Rogers can do something other than rush in.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 7, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions
Vs Obongo he would step back to avoid strikes and then attack, mostly by rushing but he does have a little mobility and the awareness to move somewhere other than forwards. Rogers also showed some good uppercuts and knees to the body for if Fedor comes straight into his chest and tries to clinch him.
I would hope his trainers had gotten him ready – Fedor’s is great and one of the quickest, most intelligent fighters in transition but his problem is that he always fights in the same style. It’s not quite as seamless as someone like GSP’s. But I imagine one takedown probably ends this fight.
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Some alarming parallels that need to be considered:
Crocop was a killer until he entered a cage and got knocked the fuck out by Gonzaga (a nobody at the time)
Shogun was the second coming until he entered the cage and got chocked the fuck out by Griffin (a nerdy tuf winner at the time)
Something is bothering me about how Bret Rogers, the cage and fedor parallel with these scenarios.
My mind says the cage had nothing to do with Shoguns loss (he was fatigued)… and crocop has always had mental problems which Fedor has never demonstrated (quite the opposite infact… a jordanesque type mental game Fedor has)
I will be a sad panda if Fedor loses…
by mmalogic on Nov 7, 2009 11:31 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
CroCop was also an idiot and didn’t even train well for the cage, which he admitted.
Shogun had a horrible knee injury, and like many other fighters coming over… took Griffin lightly and didn’t train hard.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
Cro-Cop sort of lost something in him when he lost to Fedor, and Shogun was submitted by Forrest, not knocked out. Shogun actually dealt with the cage quite well even though he lost. His problem was clearly his lungs.
Most disturbing part...
On Fight Camp 360, Rogers basically just assumes he’ll be powerful enough to just “Get up” if he gets put on his back…. bad fucking assumption.
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He apparently trained with Velasquez, who should be able to provide a challenge similar to Fedor in terms of control.. But it does sound dubious.
Wow, 1-3 for Rogers in the poll.
Someone needs to get a Nobel Prize for marketing, that is f’ing amazing.
the closer
The event gets the more I feel Like a Brett Rogers upset
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by Amigop on Nov 7, 2009 1:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Yeah...
Hence my thoughts on fans being anxious. It just always feels like an atmosphere for upset when Fedor fights. Then he shuts us up.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

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