Sengoku 11 Live Play-by-Play, Results and Commentary
by Chris Nelson on Nov 7, 2009 1:06 AM EST
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The international spice in this weekend's tasty Strikeforce sandwich eminates from Tokyo on Saturday as World Victory Road presents its final "Sengoku" event, before the switch to "Sengoku Raiden Championships" on New Year's Eve.
It's also the last big Japanese MMA event of the year until the dueling December 31st mega-shows, so won't you join us here at BloodyElbow.com for some live play-by-play and discussion? The show starts on HDNet at 2 AM Eastern / 11 PM Pacific, shortly after Strikeforce's "Challengers" event wraps up on Showtime.
Quick Results
Michihiro Omigawa def. Hatsu Hioki via split decision
Mamed Khalidov def. Jorge Santiago via KO (punches) R1
Jorge Masvidal def. Satoru Kitaoka via KO (punches) R2
Tomoaki Ueyama def. "Bull" Konno via technical submission (rear-naked choke) R1
Kazunori Yokota def. Eiji Mitsuoka via unanimous decision
Stanislav Nedkov def. Kevin Randleman via split decision
Akihiro Gono def. Yoon Young Kim via unanimous decision
Marlon Sandro def. Yuji Hoshino via KO (punches) R1
Dave Herman def. "Big" Jim York via KO (upkicks) R1
Ronnie Mann def. Shigeki Osawa via unanimous decision
Ryota Uozomi def. Yuichiro Yajima via submission (armbar) R2
FW: Hatsu Hioki -660 (64.9kg / 143 lbs) vs. Michihiro Omigawa +400 (64.9kg / 143 lbs)
Round 1: Omigawa dipping in and out with body shots a few times before Hioki figures him out and counters, backing Michi up. Omigawa stuns Hioki with a right hand (think Glass Joe's open-maw stare when Little Mac jumped up and connected) but simply stands and watches as the Iron Broomstick stumbles backward. Hioki traps Omigawa down against the post and start teeing off from half guard. The ref drags them away from the corner as they stall out and Hioki assumes Omigawa's back. As Michi escapes, Hioki snares a lightning fast armbar, which Omigawa defends ably until the frame ends. 10-9 Hioki.
Round 2: Hioki landing with jabs and a face-slapping head kick in the opening seconds. The Son of Shooto continues to pepper the much smaller Omigawa with the jab and front kicks, countering every punch the judoka wades in with. The referee warns both fighters to get active as they stall out along the ropes. In the final minute, an Omigawa upkick sparks a flurry, but it's still Hioki's round. 10-9 Hioki.
Round 3: Omigawa stuns Hioki early with a left hook and begins dancing around in the pocket directly in front of his lanky opponent, until Hioki backs him out with front kicks. Omigawa comes inside again, scoring with a combination, but he just doesn't have the power to put Hioki down. Two minutes left in the bout, Hioki on his way to a win unless Omigawa can pull out something drastic. The two play Rock-Em Sock-Em Robots around the ring before Hioki jumps guard and swats away at the face of Omigawa (as he did to Ronnie Mann in the FWGP) until the round ends. Great finish to the bout, but same as the Kanehara fight, Omigawa just turned it on too late. 10-9 Omigawa.
BloodyElbow.com scores the bout 29-28 Hioki.
Michihiro Omigawa (8-8-1) def. Hatsu Hioki (20-4-2) via split decision
Oh boy. Another favorable decision for Omigawa. Even Omigawa tells the crowd he doesn't agree with the judges.
MW: Jorge Santiago -275 (83kg / 182.9 lbs) vs. Mamed Khalidov +215 (82.4kg / 181.6 lbs)
Round 1: After a minute of terse circling, Santiago wraps Mamed up and trips him down, where the ATT fighter works to escape half guard. Santiago mixes up body and head shots from the top, but Khalidov answers from the beneath and stuns Santiago! Khalidov swarms a dazed Jorge Santiago and pounds away until the ref is forced to intervene. Either a punch or an upkick started the barrage.
Mamed Khalidov (20-3-1) def. Jorge Santiago (21-8) via KO (punches)
LW: Satoru Kitaoka -160 (70kg / 154.3 lbs) vs. Jorge Masvidal +130 (70kg / 154.3 lbs)
Round 1: Kitaoka shoots (I had that written out before the fight started) and drags Masvidal down along the ropes. Masvidal grabs a loose guillotine with his right arm as Kitaoka works to free himself from half guard. The Japanese fighter stands now, clutching Masvidal's right leg. He falls back down and wraps himself around the limb, extending it, but Masvidal is dealing out considerable punishment and eventually twists out. Kitaoka rolls into Masvidal's open guard, and Masvidal walks himself back up against the ropes but is quickly dragged back down. They stand and Masvidal drills Kitaoka with a right hand, then a head kick that stumbles the grappler. Kitaoka collapses and eats a good 20 unanswered punches from Masvidal on the mat. Masvidal gets a good-looking guillotine before the round ends, but Kitaoka survives...
...or does he? Kitaoka can barely stand. Strike that - he can't stand. His corner literally drags him to the stool and Kitaoka spits a mouthful of blood into the bucket. I don't think he'll be answering the bell, but no towel's been thrown yet. Wow, he's actually coming out...
Round 2: Kitaoka powers Masvidal to the ground with a double, but he's so drained that he can only stand over his opponent. Kitaoka choking himself with the middle rope as he tries to control Masvidal on the ground. Kitaoka rolls for a toe hold, eats more punishing fists, and Masvidal twists free. Masvidal in the loose guard of an absolutely drained Kitaoka with two minutes left. Jorge looking a bit worse for wear now, too. The ref stands them up and they clash leg kicks. Kitaoka falls to his back and Masvidal chases him down, knocking him out with a series of punches which bounce Kitaoka's head off the canvas.
Jorge Masvidal (19-4) def. Satoru Kitaoka (25-10-9) via KO (punches) R2
"Fight of the Soul" (Intermission) - Featherweight - 2R x 5 min.
Tomoaki Ueyama -260 (64.7kg /42.6 lbs) vs. Hirokazu "Bull" Konno +200 (64.8kg / 142.8 lbs)
Round 1: Ueyama stalks Bull, who fires back thigh kicks in between spats of running around the outside of the ring and tripping himself on the ropes. Ueyama unloads with wide rights and lefts, backing Bull into a corner. Right straight stumbles Bull and Ueyama deposits him on his back with a double leg. Straight to mount goes Ueyama, then onto Bull's back where he locks up a loose body triangle. Bull turns into the hold and escapes, then scrambles to take the back of Ueyama. They're in north-south, then back to the feet, where Bull once again trips himself up in the ropes while running. Ueyama pounds him for a moment before lunging in and putting Bull to sleep with a rear-naked choke. I'm still trying to understand what just happened and why.
Tomoaki Ueyama (3-3) def. Hirokazu "Bull" Konno (1-4) via technical submission (rear-naked choke) R1
LW: Kazunori Yokota -150 (69.7kg / 153.6 lbs) vs. Eiji Mitsuoka +120 (70kg / 154.3 lbs)
Round 1: Yokota flicking out jabs, leg kicks and thumping front kicks early on. Eiji ducks inside but Yokota stuffs the trip attempt and they clinch against the ropes. The ref splits them up and pauses for a piece of tape to be removed from Yokota's foot, and they resume. Mitsuoka elevates Yokota and slams him with authority, then Yokota executes a great sweep into Eiji's butterfly guard! Yokota thumping Mitsuoka in the side of the head from guard, then Mitsuoka sweeps him against the ropes and takes Yokota's back! Yokota runs to the corner, but Mitsuoka has a body lock - he lifts Yokota and deposits him on the ground, face first. Nice, close first round. 10-9 Mitsuoka.
Round 2: Yokota lands a few combinations early, but is muscled into the ropes when he tries to clinch with Mitsuoka. Getting off with his right is Yokota, while Eiji throws looping hooks from his hips. They tie up in the corner and Yokota hits some foot stomps before they're re-started. A speedy Superman punch from Yokota causes Mitsuoka to shoot into a corner, where Yokota grabs an arm. The ref breaks them up and warns Yokota for elbow strikes to the spine of Mitsuoka. When they resume, Yokota flings Mitsuoka with a textbook trip, then cracks a stumbling Eiji with a right hand going away. Hard flying knee to the gut connects for Yokota, as do some crisp right hands. 10-9 Yokota.
Round 3: More hard right hands from Yokota to open the frame, before Eiji clinches up and slows the pace. Yokota clinches up, but retreats when he catches a sharp knee to the gut. Now Mitsuoka ties up, but Yokota shucks the trip attempt and begins punching away from Eiji's tight guard. They scramble and... wind up clinching in the corner. Yokota slugs away while he can, before Mitsuoka doubles over and throws his arms around his man's waist again. Yokota deftly reverses and tries to pound on Mitsuoka from half guard and side control for the final 30 seconds. 10-9 Yokota.
BloodyElbow.com scores the bout 29-28 Yokota.
Kazunori Yokota (11-2-3) def. Eiji Mitsuoka (16-7-2) via unanimous decision
LHW: Stanislav Nedkov -200 (92.5kg / 203.9 lbs) vs. Kevin Randleman +160 (92.1kg / 203 lbs)
Round 1: Randleman wearing his wrestling shoes, Nedkov in bare feet. The pair circles for 70 seconds before Randleman clips Nedkov's left leg from under him with a low kick. Randleman locks up with the Bulgarian and tosses him to the floor, passing to left side. Now back to half guard. No strikes being thrown, just Randleman trying to posture up as Nedkov controls his arms. The Monster gets off a few short punches before the ref stands them up. Randleman ducks a wild, lunging left from Nedkov. Randleman takes underhooks and Nedkov connects with a pair of knees up the gut. Nedkov sprawls and snares a loose guillotine, but Randleman turns him over and pushes him into the ringpost to end the round.
Round 2: Nedkov quickly down and into the half guard of Randleman, trying to pass to the left side while peppering with some hammerfists which clearly bother Randleman. Slick reversal from the American, but he doesn't do much from half guard. They scramble and Kev winds up in guard again. The ref stands them up and halts the action to re-affix a piece of Nedkov's shorts, or maybe his jock. When they resume, Randleman executes a lovely takedown, but again struggles trying to pass Nedkov's guard. Neither man mounts any offense for a solid minute. As Randleman postures up, Nedkov scrambles and plows into guard, landing some knees and punches at the end of the round.
Round 3: Nedkov gets first takedown this time and actually begins to mount some offense from guard. They veer too far into the ropes and the ref drags them back in, and Nedkov resumes pounding. Randleman ties up and the referee cautions, "Action! No holding!" and then "Break!," before issuing each man a yellow card (10% purse deduction). Both men looking worn now, staring one another down and hardly striking. Randleman nearly sweeps Nedkov's leg out from under him with a kick. The ref now issues both men red cards (a point deduction and 20% purse penalty, according to HDNet). Nedkov plows Randleman down and connects with a few knees before the bout ends. Schiavello says the crowd is showing it's appreciation, but I swear I heard booing.
Stanislav Nedkov (8-0) def. Kevin Randleman (17-14) via split decision
WW: Akihiro Gono -500 (76kg / 167.5 lbs) vs. Yoon Young Kim +300 (75.8kg / 167.1 lbs)
Round 1: A stoic Gono makes a notably more subdued entrance than usual. Kim absolutely dwarfing Gono, pressing forward into the ropes with jabs and front kicks. Gono tags him with a counter left and circles out. Gono begins to string together some combinations now, but he still looks a bit gunshy and Kim is still moving him around the ring. Gono chops away with leg kicks and Kim decides to jump guard, locking up a body triangle. Kim looks for Gono's right arm, but Gono bucks free. Now Kim relents the triangle and closes his guard, controlling Gono's hands with 30 seconds left. Very much an even round.
Round 2: The pair trades kicks before Gono dives into Kim's guard. Gono postures up and just misses eating an upkick from the rangy Korean. With a wide open guard, Kim tries to secure the right arm of Gono for a keylock. Again Gono postures up; this tiime, Kim throws his hips up and Gono passes to half guard. Kim stuffs him back to half guard and Gono can't extract his left leg from the much longer limbs of Kim. In the last minute, Gono connects with a few solid knees to the head of Kim on the ground.
Round 3: Kim backs Gono up with a string of punches, then backs out, trying to time a big right over the top. Gono catches Kim with a straight that buckles his knees, but Kim fends him off from his back and recovers. More left hooks and right uppercuts connecting for Gono. Keeping his distance, Gono repeatedly finds the mark with left hooks and front kicks, before catching Kim with a glancing head kick that stuns "Shin Ramen." Gono just can't seem to finish off the very tough Kim. With less than a minute left, Kim accidentally (...) catches Gono square in the groin with a kick that he threw while covering his face. Gono recovers and plows Kim to the ground with a double. 30 seconds remaining. And it's over.
Akihiro Gono (30-15-7) def. Yoon Young Kim (12-5) via unanimous decision
Gono gives a wonderful, heart-felt speech (in English!) after the bout:
I have a message for Dan Hornbuckle, though I know he’s not here right now. I have something to say to him that I couldn’t say after we fought, since I was completely knocked unconscious and didn’t come to my senses for four hours. So, tonight, I have a message for him.
So, Dan, first of all, congratulations on your victory against me in August. I think it was a big victory for you, and it was a big, big loss for me… but a good wake-up call.
Thanks to you, I’m completely woke up and have been training much harder than before. Now, I believe myself to be much better than before, much better than when you faced me. So, I want to rematch you. And for that to happen, I want you to win the title on New Year’s Eve, and I’ll keep training hard to be the first challenger for that title. I hope to see you in the ring before the end of next year.
FW: Marlon Sandro -800 (65kg / 143.3 lbs) vs. Yuji Hoshino +500 (65kg / 143.3 lbs)
Round 1: After a bit of feeling out, Sandro comes in winging hooks and ties Hoshino up against the post with an over-under. They stall out momentarily (sort of, not really) and the ref restarts them in center ring. While Hoshino measures the Brazilian up, Sandro rushes in and ties up against the post again. Again the ref breaks them up quickly. This time, Sandro stuns Hoshino with a big right hook and follows up with a combination where another lands and ends Hoshino's night. Pure clobberation.
After the fight, Sandro implores WVR to give him a title shot.
Marlon Sandro (15-1) def. Yuji Hoshino (16-7-7) via KO (punches) R1
HW: Dave Herman -550 (108.7kg / 239.6 lbs) vs. Jim York +350 (116.3kg / 256.3 lbs)
Round 1: Off the bat, York stuns Herman with a doubled-up jab. Herman ties up with underhooks and York nearly reverses with a trip takedown, but Herman gets him down and gets on top. As Herman passes to mount, York flips him off and escapes nicely! Herman grabs a Thai plum, but York socks him with uppercuts up the pipe. Herman slips on a head kick attempt and York follows him down and grabs a leg for a heel hook. As he lays back, Herman uses his long legs to tag York square in the jaw with upkicks. (More like downkicks.) It takes the ref a moment to realize that York is out cold and dive in. Brutal stuff from Herman, who didn't look all that impressive to that point.
Dave Herman (16-1) def. "Big" Jim York (11-4) via KO (upkicks) R1
FW: Ronnie Mann -260 (64.6kg / 142.4 lbs) vs. Shigeki Osawa +200 (64.8kg / 142.8 lbs)
Round 1: Mann tags a shooting Osawa with a cracking right cross before getting tied up in the corner. Mann reverses Osawa and takes his back, dragging the wrestler to the floor. He works for a minute to lock in a rear-naked choke, but Shigeki defends ably and thrusts forward, plowing Mann's face into the ring. Osawa flips over and into Mann's open guard, and the fighters are repositioned in the center. Two minutes left. Mann is doing well to tie Osawa up and angle his hips for a triangle or armbar. Mann tries for mission control but soon relents and the round expires. Easily Mann's round.
Round 2: Mann calls time as the round begins - he forgot his mouthpiece. Okay... he's got it in and we're underway. The two circle, Mann keeping Osawa at bay with high kicks and body shots, threatening with knees when Osawa feigns a shot. Osawa snares Mann's right leg after a roundhouse to the body and brings him down with the single. Mann flips over and Osawa grabs a loose guillotine, now almost in north-south position. Mann pops back up and Osawa flicks a big upward soccer kick that just misses. Mann looking very much the fresher man as he bounces on his toes and Osawa's eyes swell up. Mann takes Osawa down against the ropes and takes his back with a minute left. Osawa stands and falls backwards, then snaps around just after impact into guard. But he's only made it halfway and Ronnie's still got one hook in. He punches away at a defensive Osawa until the frame ends.
Round 3: Not much to speak of in the first minute of the final frame. Osawa needs to be trying to finish this and he's just waving and slapping leg kicks at Mann from three feet away. Mann connecting with some solid kicks to the body now. The ref wants to stop and have Osawa's swollen right eye checked out. He walks over to a corner and is quickly given the OK. Osawa puts Mann on his back once more, but again Mann's tight guard is neutering the wrestler's ground and pound. The ref stands the fighters up and warns them for inactivity. A brief flurry ensues with about 40 seconds on the clock, but Mann ties up against the ropes, scores a final takedown and takes Osawa's back once more. Osawa reverses, but it's too late.
Ronnie Mann (17-2-1) def. Shigeki Osawa (4-1) via unanimous decision
Opening Bout - Bantamweight - 2R x 5 min.
Ryota Uozomi (10-2-2, 1 NC) def. Yuichiro Yajima (9-10-1, 2 NC) via submission (armbar) R2
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Pretty solid card, the greatest and worst thing about MMA is the long lulls between cards, than all of a sudden there is 3 cards in 2 days.
I say greatest.
There’s always old stuff to watch when new stuff isn’t happening!
Can’t wait to get buried in this weekend’s MMA landslide.
Stacked card. Hopefully not too many injuries or it could really screw up the new years card.
I like omigawa, santiago, yokota, nedkov, gono, sandro, herman, and mann. Real worried for Kitaoka tonight, if Masvidal pulls off a good sprawl and brawl he can put Satoru on a losing streak. Gonna pick Kit anyway, but I’d bet Masvidal (not that mma playground is letting me for some damned reason).
Post yer picks!
- FW: Michihiro Omigawa vs. Hatsu Hioki : Hioki via decision
- MW: Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov : Khalidov via TKO
- LW: Satoru Kitaoka vs. Jorge Masvidal : Kitaoka via submission
- LW: Kazunori Yokota vs. Eiji Mitsuoka : Yokota via decision
- LHW: Stanislav Nedkov vs. Kevin Randlemen: Nedkov via TKO
- WW: Akihiro Gono vs. Yoon Young Kim : Gono via decision
- FW: Yuji Hoshino vs. Marlon Sandro : Sandro via TKO
- HW: Dave Herman vs. Jim York : York via TKO
- FW: Shigeki Osawa vs. Ronnie Mann : Osawa via decision
- BW: Ryota Uozomi vs. Yuichiro Yajima : Yajima
- FW: Hirokazu Konno vs. Tomoaki Ueyama : Ueyama
I can see someone betting on York, but it seems like a strange pick. Please elaborate.
I’d love to be wrong about Khalidov.
Just some weird gut feeling (like all my picks). Herman keeps saying he’s stepped up his training, but I think his cardio issues are terminal. Big Jim will stand and slug with him, and York’s got (slightly) better boxing.
If Big Jim wins this fight, Pee Wee should move to pro-wrestling.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 7, 2009 1:17 AM EST up reply actions
can’t see my picks on mmaplayground. I’ve got an ass-load of fail right now.
Anyway, from memory:
Hioki
Khalidov
Masvidal
Randleman
Gono
Sandro
Herman
Mann
Can’t remember the rest….must drink more.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 7, 2009 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
Playground screwed the pooch on this event somehow. Couldn’t put wagers on and now it looks like they just deleted the event since you can’t find your picks.
I can’t make picks for Fedor/Rogers either because they combined it with the Challengers show, lame.
it seems to happen every time they have back-to-back cards.
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 7, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions
Best Card of the Weekend
From top to bottom and it will get overlooked by the majority of the mma community.
Hopefully I'll be up to watch this
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity." - Bullet Tooth Tony
@deowade
No one is picking MItsuoka, I think he will win.
Winner will probably get a title shot.
Awesome fight.
And go Omigawa!
I really hope I’m wrong about Omigawa. I’m cheering for him.
by Chris Nelson on Nov 6, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Hatsu Hioki : Hioki via submission
Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov : Santiago via TKO
Satoru Kitaoka vs. Jorge Masvidal : Kitaoka via submission
Kazunori Yokota vs. Eiji Mitsuoka : Mitsuoka via decision
Stanislav Nedkov vs. Kevin Randlemen: Nedkov via TKO
Akihiro Gono vs. Yoon Young Kim : Gono via decision
Yuji Hoshino vs. Marlon Sandro : Sandro via TKO
Dave Herman vs. Jim York : Herman via TKO
Shigeki Osawa vs. Ronnie Mann : Osawa via decision
Ryota Uozomi vs. Yuichiro Yajima : Yajima via decision
Hirokazu Konno vs. Tomoaki Ueyama : Ueyama via decision
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Hatsu Hioki : Hioki via submission
Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov : Khalidov via TKO
Satoru Kitaoka vs. Jorge Masvidal : Kitaoka via submission
Kazunori Yokota vs. Eiji Mitsuoka : Mitsuoka via decision
Stanislav Nedkov vs. Kevin Randlemen: Nedkov via submission
Akihiro Gono vs. Yoon Young Kim : Gono via decision
Yuji Hoshino vs. Marlon Sandro : Sandro via TKO
Dave Herman vs. Jim York : Herman via TKO
Shigeki Osawa vs. Ronnie Mann : Mann via experience
This shirt is "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.
I believe this Sengoku card should get more love than the Strikeforce Challengers show, but hey I’m happy to toil in the minority.
This shirt is "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.
I agree
If it wasn’t for the time difference it probably would. Its on at like 2 in the morning…
This pick will either be ruined or affirmed within T+1:00.
Masvidal, via whatever after Kitaoka gasses.
Fighting Area Control
Yes...Break his leg, he will.
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Michihiro Omigawa vs. Hatsu Hioki
Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov
Satoru Kitaoka vs. Jorge Masvidal
Kazunori Yokota vs. Eiji Mitsuoka
Stanislav Nedkov vs. Kevin Randlemen
Akihiro Gono vs. Yoon Young Kim
Yuji Hoshino vs. Marlon Sandro
Dave Herman vs. Jim York
Shigeki Osawa vs. Ronnie Mann
Ryota Uozomi vs. Yuichiro Yajima
Hirokazu Konno vs. Tomoaki Ueyama
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
No Omi love? Dude is a warriror but yeah Hioki will prob take it.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
I love the guy
So it’s a win-win fight for me, but man, Hioki is a killer.
You must have missed my comment on the SF thread— what are you playing these days? I’m putting in some rounds in Tekken 6 before the show starts..
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Gamertag? Yeah I got Tekken 6 on 360.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions
Blackout612
Amazing, I know. Don’t have Gold presently, just play P2P and Ghost mode. I also have Forza 3 but haven’t played much since buying it. Getting Uncharted 2 sometime this coming week.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
You don’t have a trial laying around anywhere? Uncharted 2 is simply AMAZING! I beat it last week and man that game is just all around awesome. The commercial for it doesnt lie. It’s like a movie.
MP is sick as well. Think COD4+GoW+Halo3+Platformer.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 1:36 AM EST up reply actions
MP?
No, I don’t have a trial. I’m too old school, I can’t really get into the console online experience. I like fighting games and want to see the people I’m playing with. Plus I can’t tolerate lag and I heard this game is littered with it. I don’t like FPS’s without a mouse, in most cases, too.
I also picked up a copy of Brutal Legend, but haven’t had the time for it.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Playing Tekken 6, Forza 3, Uncharted 2, some COD4 as well. Can’t wait for midnight on Monday!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 1:27 AM EST up reply actions
My comp is weird. So I'll be twittering.
Sorry BENC. :(
"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."
-Lao Tzu
Can’t speak for everyone, but I’m real high on Osawa as a prospect. Love what I’ve seen from him so far (using his wrestling base like he should, already improving his striking) and like Sam said, Sengoku has been giving him a solid slow build between Pancrase and Sengoku.
Mann’s got a lot more experience, but I think it’s mostly against mediocre competition and his striking skills haven’t looked like all they were made out to be. Osawa should be able to grind this out, if not get a stoppage.
The line is real close, and I think it’s justified. It’s not a bad fight for Osawa.
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"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 1:55 AM EST up reply actions
REGULATORS, MOUNT UP
Follow me on Twitter @lelandroling
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I’m not sure about the universe." - Albert Einstein
These guys will win!!!!!!!
FW: Michihiro Omigawa vs. Hatsu Hioki : Hioki
MW: Jorge Santiago vs. Mamed Khalidov : santiago
LW: Satoru Kitaoka vs. Jorge Masvidal : Kitaoka
LW: Kazunori Yokota vs. Eiji Mitsuoka : mitsuoka
LHW: Stanislav Nedkov vs. Kevin Randleman: randleman
WW: Akihiro Gono vs. Yoon Young Kim : Gono
FW: Yuji Hoshino vs. Marlon Sandro : Sandro
HW: Dave Herman vs. Jim York : herman
FW: Shigeki Osawa vs. Ronnie Mann : mann
BW: Ryota Uozomi vs. Yuichiro Yajima : Yajima ?? IDK
FW: Hirokazu Konno vs. Tomoaki Ueyama : Ueyama ?? IDK
It's time!
Favorite jam to help stay awake:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1daq2_dj-mehdi-signatune-tbangalter-edit_music
I think we should all be listening to DJ Gozma, because of Gono
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Some Ozma should do the trick…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGiIBbS0-8w
BOUNCE WITH ME BOUNCE WITH ME
I was thinking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUQhkAWMDlE
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Refresh my memory. Does Sengoku have an opening ceremony?
This shirt is "dry clean only", which means it's dirty.
HELLO LADIES!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
What does everybody want?!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 2:01 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 2:05 AM EST up reply actions
I was waiting for that
…you know ever
"I want to tell me what you see, let's go ahead and see by in the fight, what you saw, in the ring." - Tito Ortiz
SCHIAVELLO!!!
With a crazy tan and TWO watchesFTW!!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Lettuce get it on.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol thats a pretty hilarious quote.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
First fight is …?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Cheers.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
It is…inevitable.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 2:18 AM EST up reply actions
lol man I haven’t thought about sling blade in ages.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Some walk ins, Schivello’s two watches. Nothin major.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I got $50 on Osawa at +150 - COME ON
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HASH FAT CAT
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
If Ronnie Mann is a window shopper
I fear for his life. Osawa does not suffer window shoppers lightly.
will this reach 5 hours again? It’s going to be harder to stay up now that i’m in your timezone. haha..
also, a newspaper plagiarized my Folayang posts.. Grrrrrr.
Plagiarism is a cost of doing business in the literary world, the only thing you can do is shine as much negative light as possible on them.
If that's the only thing i can do, then.. :(
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 7, 2009 2:32 AM EST up reply actions
Nice start to the fight.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I like the relaxed feel to Japanese shows. Schivello and Mezger make it very enjoyable.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
If the voice could just stay more relaxed it'd be even better
Imagine how loudly his excitement must carry in that crowd when he does get animated.
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Heyyy.
Alla som inte dansar är våldtäktsmän.
by Eugene Schelfaut on Nov 7, 2009 2:32 AM EST reply actions
Really?
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
Did you miss the tight
RNC attempt by Mann?
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Or the clean hook to the chin.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
HAHA. I just wanted to get a reaction outta some people upon my arrival.
IT’S SENGOKU, ROUND SCORING IS POINTLESS.
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No, it isn’t.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
Well, it shouldn't be, but it kinda can be
Because of the “must decision” thing they tack on, which essentially scores the fight on the whole. To that end:
Jordan Breen:
I’ve just been informed the Sengoku judges have already scored this fight 30-30, with the must decision going to Osawa.
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They use 10 point must system iirc, then again i didnt know you could have 10-10 rounds in the 10 point must system, so I am not the best source.
I think the 10 point must is deceitful because it ascertains that you must score 10 points for 1 fighter, but it does not really insinuate that the other fighter cannot also get 10 points.
Also I blame the UFC since they have issued what, maybe 3 10-10 rounds in the last 2 years?
Show me a 10-10 round
The rules state that the winner of a round receives 10 points and the loser receives 9 or less.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Pay attention
It’s constantly stated, so I don’t know what you’re talking about below.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Scoring
The Committee maintains that the 10 point must system is still the preferred scoring method at this time. The 10 point must system is defined as follows:
All bouts will be evaluated and scored by three judges. The 10-Point Must System will be the standard system of scoring a bout. Under the 10-Point Must Scoring System, 10 points must be awarded to the winner of the round and nine points or less must be awarded to the loser, except for an even round, which is scored (10-10).
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The following objective scoring criteria shall be utilized by the judges when scoring a round:
1. A round is to be scored as a 10-10 Round when both contestants appear to be fighting evenly and neither contestant shows dominance in a round;
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I could care less
Look, the unified rules say one thing and the UFC, verbatim, on television, say 10 for the winner of a round and 9 or less for his opponent.
Again, show me a 10-10 round. It’s happened, but it seems to only occur when a judge seems disoriented.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
LOLZ
You don’t get it. Watch Karo/Stun Gun for reference.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Sengoku rules
Are like PRIDE but with round scoring.
Damage is a big piece of the criteria
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions
Folks just assume that it only one person can get 10 points. Not only does the system not insinuate it, it makes it extremely clear that draw rounds and draw decisions are a possibility. The UFC has always been vague in their little rundown, so I suppose that is the source.
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Yeah for the longest time I thought what Blackout did where 10 point must meant that only 1 person could receive 10 points.
But I was wrong and I learned, and I think the UFC is a big part to blame given their popularity.
Geez...
I never said that that’s how it’s stated in the unified rules— it’s how it’s stated on UFC broadcasts and how their fights are always judged.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
The UFC doesn’t make the rules or judge the fights— that is under the jurisdiction of the relavant state Athletic Commissions, who more or less uniformly use the Uniform Rules of Mixed Martial Arts. When the UFC runs a show in an unsanctioned area, they use the Unified Rules as well.
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Again
Show me some 10-10 rounds, bonjio. You’re not saying anything new here.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
First part is correct, 2nd part isn’t. Sherk/Florian had multiple 10/10 rounds. Other fights have too. That is they way the UFC portrays the rules, but it’s not how AC judges score the fights.
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Look
You guys are disillusioned if you think judges aren’t encouraged to always choose a winner. I can name countless fights in which rounds should have drawn and haven’t. How that is arguable is beyond me.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
You’re changing your stance now. Are they encouraged to lean one way or the other? Yes. But you said that the judges ALWAYS go 10-9, and that’s not the case. Again, Sherk/Florian.
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I'm not writing a thesis
The fact is, lots of fights should have drawn rounds and they don’t. It’s that cut and dry. I can name fights that have had 10-10’s, but they’re absolute anomalies.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Looks like....
you guys are arguing different things.
CapL and others are saying 10-10’s are possible.
You’re saying that NA judges almost never use them…
The rules state that the winner of a round receives 10 points and the loser receives 9 or less.
Look, the unified rules say one thing and the UFC, verbatim, on television, say 10 for the winner of a round and 9 or less for his opponent.
I never said that that’s how it’s stated in the unified rules— it’s how it’s stated on UFC broadcasts and how their fights are always judged.
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Judging is not always objective. How you can say something so subjective is not arguable is beyond me.
That there have been rounds that could have drawn?
On such a large sample size, you can confidently say that there is no encouragement to award a victor to each round?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Not sure if you will get what I mean, but its like comparing floating points and trying to detirmine if they are equal. Sure they could be equal, but likely won’t test out like that. That may be a bit geeky, but what I am saying is judges are there to pick the winner of each round. They score 10-10 when they overwhelmingly can not pick the winner. that is rare. Thats not how I would read the language, but thats how most judges interpret it, so it has become the standard.
Fight Metric quote on the matter
With the judging at the TUF 9 Finale raising so much ire this week, much of the focus has been on two fights that were not broadcast on Spike. We have now posted the stats for two controversial decisions on the undercard, the fight between Melvin Guillard and Gleison Tibau and the fight between Brad Blackburn and Edgar Garcia.
Both fights produced scores with the same issue: Two of the rounds were too close to call, with the third round producing a clear winner. In both cases, the system produced a score of 30-29. Of course, to do this, you have to be willing to call a 10-10 round. This is no problem for an objective stat system but seemingly impossible for a human judge. It wasn’t always that way. Back at UFC 33, the first UFC event held in Las Vegas, there were three fights that had judges call at least one 10-10 round. Only one event since has had as many as two fights with a 10-10 round. The judges at UFC 33 are the same exact ones working shows today. What changed?
No need to be ravenous about the subject, but it’s OBVIOUS that the judges during UFC events (and most US based MMA events) have virtually no need for 10-10 rounds.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Well, I can agree that they likely should be used more, but no one likes ties and they don’t use 10-8 nearly enough either. And 10-10 is, by definition close. In other words its a judgement call left to judges.
The 10-8 is employed far more often than a 10-10
Honestly, I couldn’t think of the last 10-10 I could remember. I think both should be used much more often, and even 10-7’s in some cases. These razor thin fights, like the ones I’ve mentioned along with the likes of Condit/Kampmann, would have greatly benefited from the employ of the 10-10 round, but you just don’t see it.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I suppose I was reading too much into your comments—I thought you were presenting the idea that the UFC didn’t allow 10-10’s, not just that they don’t use them much. Sorry about that.
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It's all good
There was a time that I looked up the unified rules to see if they had been revised because judges during UFC events seemingly ignored any possibility of a 10-10 round. Lot of people clamoring for half-point’s to be employed, but if 10-10’s and 10-8’s were more commonplace, there’d be no need for that sort of shit.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
No, I am telling you they should be used more. I am -—— agreeing with you. I am also telling you that the copy I have of the rules is not written as cut and dry as you are trying to project. Judges don’t like ties. And saying that maybe judges at UFC 33 were better then they are now is wacky. They have much more experience with the sport and the rules, that then were brand new.
I'm not saying they were better
And that article isn’t, either. It’s suggesting (as am I) that there has been a shift in judging methods and an emphasis on not liberally awarding ties or two-point wins for rounds. Of all the rounds we’ve seen that should have been 10-10, and for almost all of those rounds to be 10-9’s, I don’t see a viable argument to suggest that these judges just don’t want to give them out at-all if possible. It’s not my intention to suggest why. I have enough trouble figuring out what women are thinking to want to delve into the mind of Cecil Peoples.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I don’t really have anything else to add except for this. Its not really womens mind I try to get into.
On a positive note
I now have a definitive answer as to where people got the idea that there could be no 10-10 rounds.
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by capital L on Nov 7, 2009 2:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Take that up with Cecil
And keep your superiority complex in your pants.
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-Sakuraba
Learn the rules of the sport you watch.
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by capital L on Nov 7, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clown shoes
My point is the assertion of their broadcasts and how fights are commonly judged. Look at Karo/Stun Gun, Rampage/Forrest, Machida/Shogun— it’s how fights are called.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
You're breaking my heart
My point is clear.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Nope
Plainly incorrect. The UFC does a constant rundown of the 10 point must they utilize and it is exactly as I’ve said it.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
The only real difference is...
Sengoku judges will use 10-10
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
I’d say he’s already put down a dozen.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Just cracking a joke based on the “put down your beer” comment.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
LOL YES
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
By the way a torpedo punt is basically a huge kick in which the aim it to get the ball spinning the same way you throw it in Gridiron or whatever you call it.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Osawa will look like Omigawa in a few years time. Physically that is.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Well Mann should take this barring some Japanese cooking.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Mann was a bit of a nutty choice for the very green Osawa. If they were going to give him anyone from the grand prix I would have gone with Nik Denis or one of the first round Japanese eliminees.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I believe Herman is the heavyweight and York is the survival in this match-up.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol YUS!
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
That loss to Choi should never of happened, but I’m glad that it did as it really woke him up.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Word of advice: Rugby League > AFL
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
My entrance song would be Manny Pacquiao “Sometimes When we touch…”
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
lol I’ve got “Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger” by Daft Punk
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
You like Cascada?
must be thinking of a different song
lol
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 2:59 AM EST up reply actions
MENTION
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SHOUT OUT MOTHERFUCKER!
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Deezang
That looked painful.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
WOAH
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Wow...
That was incredible.
But Mezger is right. Herman drops his hands way too much after the initial shot. York had a real shot at KOing him.
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Yep, York had him doing a mini-salmon dance there.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
PEE-WEE!!!!
Why would you not let go?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
Haha....
Touche sir.
He did.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:00 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah Okami got fuckin scorpion kicked from inside the guard. A move that should have been allowed because it was freaking awesome.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I thought I read something recently were it won’t be on the line for the Rogers fight.
I think its just an excuse so that they can have a title bout, still have Overeem as the champ and not piss him off by adding an Interim title.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I LIVE MOTHERFUCKERS MWAHAHAHAAHAHA, YOU CAN NEVER KILL WAMMA
sorry had to
by ZombieWamma on Nov 7, 2009 3:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It is my opinion that in all MMA rules, kicks and knees to the head should be allowed if both fighters are on the gruond.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I, too, share this opinion and think anyone who disagrees is wrong. Yes.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
Here comes some Sandro ownage
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Sandro is pissed, and is going to curb stomp this poor Japanese dude.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
This is actually a closer fight than many people think IMO, but I think Sandro could overwhelm if Hoshino isn’t careful.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:07 AM EST up reply actions
I think Sandro is going to dominate him.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I’d like that to happen as I’ve been talking up Sandro for way too long to see him lose.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:09 AM EST up reply actions
Me too
Picked him at the outset of the tourney, so I’ve been rocking his jersey for a while now.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
BOOOOOOOOM
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
WAMMA is a Zombie
No matter what happens they just keep surviving.
Oof
Jordan Breen:
True story: We had a grappling match loss to Takafumi Ito on Yuji Hoshino’s FightFinder record for some six years until I removed it a few weeks ago. Isn’t MMA recordkeeping awesome?
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Big power for a featherweight.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
“I don’t hate Omigawa, I just want to see his head get kicked down the street like a soccer ball.”
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Crazy to think that Marlon trains right aside Jose Aldo & Marlon Sandro. Damn he just asked for the title. He got screwed to begin with they should give it to him.
Is there an intermission, or do I have to make dinner during Nedkov/Randleman?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Man Gono got knocked out by The Handler, now he’s versing a dude who eats the snakes. I’m scared for my favorite leopard skin wearing Jap.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Someone thought the sumo was on tonight…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
NOODLES!
I hate those things with a passion. Lived off them in college.
/shudders
I specializes in grammar fail.
Gono is like the new Minowa except for his weight class.
Another tall guy…
McCrory, Hornbuckle, now Snake Eater.
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Seriously...
Chainmail dresses or bust
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I feel cheated.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Gono has disgraced himself by trying to focus solely on the fight. How dare he.
This is unacceptable.
I specializes in grammar fail.
LOL
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:25 AM EST up reply actions
He should have played off the Hornbuckle loss. Entered in a hospital gown, or on a stretcher. With scantly glad Japanese women. Many scantly clad
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I always thought a guy coming in on a stretcher after leaving on one in his last fight would be cool.
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I think I’ll go get dinner now. If Gono wins it won’t be too exciting and if he loses, I don’t think my heart could take it.
A Gono loss without a rocking entrance is just … devastating.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Yeah...
I’m a bit surprised… I thought Gono landed a lot more cleaner strikes than Mezger is saying.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
I’m surprised we’re still watching this. Usually noodles are finished in 2 minutes.
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by Tim Burke on Nov 7, 2009 3:32 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
slaps a mosquito GOOOOOOOOOOOOD NIGHT IRENE THE BIG KABOOOOOOOSH
by DirtyML on Nov 7, 2009 3:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Party pooper you mean?
This is getting pretty good.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Noodles is still throwing some big shots. Gotta be careful.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 3:45 AM EST up reply actions
30-28 gono
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agreed
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 3:47 AM EST up reply actions
Haha, Mir reference FTW
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:48 AM EST up reply actions
Shit
He speaks good English.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
I hope so. That speech just got me all pumped for the rematch.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 3:52 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome speech.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:51 AM EST up reply actions
Wow....
Gono’s English is fucking great. His English teacher will now get calls.
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From Anderson Silva and Tito Ortiz, hopefully
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by P Brady on Nov 7, 2009 3:51 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Hahaha
Beat me to Anderson, but didn’t even think to say Tito. Gold
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Tito already speaks something better than english.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
monosyllabic jenna whale song
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 3:54 AM EST up reply actions
…and Chuck Liddell’s.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Liddell really shouldnt fight anymore. I caught a UFC Unleashed the other day and he was forming complete sentences back then and everything. Now, not so much. =(
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions
It's okay, though
He now expresses himself through the art of dance.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
the chin pubes weigh alot apparently
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 3:53 AM EST up reply actions
Whoever that english teacher is just got the biggest endorsement of his life.
From what I’ve heard Gono speak in the past, wow.
Either that
Or Gono just proved he didn’t suffer any brain damage from Hornbuckle’s kick.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Gono speech, from what I could transcribe:
I have a message for Dan Hornbuckle, though I know he’s not here right now. I have something to say to him that I couldn’t say after we fought, since I was completely knocked unconscious and didn’t come to my senses for four hours. So, tonight, I have a message for him.
So, Dan, first of all, congratulations on your victory against me in August. I think it was a big victory for you, and it was a big, big loss for me… but a good wake-up call.
Thanks to you, I’m completely woke up and have been training much harder than before. Now, I believe myself to be much better than before, much better than when you faced me. So, I want to rematch you. And for that to happen, I want you to win the title on New Year’s Eve, and I’ll keep training hard to be the first challenger for that title. I hope to see you in the ring before the end of next year.
Monster time, RAWRR!!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
RAWRR
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Nov 7, 2009 3:55 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
Please use the subject line
It will collapse the image
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Click on the subject line
You will no longer see this text/image/whatever
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
relax
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just saying, in a 500+ comment thread, I would like to collapse images.
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Oh man i love that gono is back. I can’t wait to see the rematch. Quite right his English is excellent, Gono’s english is better than a som of native speakers…
How bad is Randleman going to look?
A: Really bad.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
B. Really bad, really gassed
C. On Roids, really good.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
he'll never reach the heights he did in the 90's
thong song ftw
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 3:56 AM EST up reply actions
Hopefully we see as much improvement in his cardio as we saw in Coleman from the Shogun fighter to the Bonnar fight. But I wouldn’t bet on it because I didn’t.
I don't know
That Whitehead fight didn’t exude confidence in that happening.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 3:58 AM EST up reply actions
UN BREAKABLE
KEVIN
RANDLE
MAN
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Wow this announcer is so damn annoying. Which randleman will show up bla bla. He sounds as bad as Gus Johnson. They really need to drop him. Not to mention his hyperbole gets annoying and old almost immediately.
you sir
are an idiot :)
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
Oof
You’re probably about to get jumped on.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
sarcasm?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 3:59 AM EST up reply actions
BAN HIM!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 7, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions
feed him to choi
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:00 AM EST up reply actions
id ratehr have metzger than that moron from the SHO earlier
i wanted to stab my eyeballs with a penil
“i havent seen a spinning back fist since the year 200 in pride durr hurrrr”
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
pencil* :/
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
at least he sounded like he had all of his pecks.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
lol ouch
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions
Your soul is filled with doo doo.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 4:01 AM EST up reply actions
lol he's gassed you can hear him wheezing like a 4 year old with athsma
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Nice to see Kev got around to getting his BJJ blue belt…13 years after he started fighting in MMA.
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by Tim Burke on Nov 7, 2009 4:02 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lmao ^
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:03 AM EST up reply actions
Seriously.
He’s only a blue belt?
"I love it when a guy is bleeding on top of me." -- Diego Sanchez, post fight interview about his fight with Clay Guida
and a black one, and a brown one, and for mondays
the rainbow one with velcro
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:04 AM EST up reply actions
mma wharehouse
does have slow delivery
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:06 AM EST up reply actions
Kevin Randleman showed off his new blue belt in BJJ, which he received this past monday after four years of BJJ training, saying that the blue belt is even more important to him than the UFC Heavyweight belt he once held.
4 years to get your blue? Wowsers.
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Who’s the belt from? Do they intentionally hold folk back to get more wins in BJJ tourneys or Sub. Grappling tourneys? Even I got my blue in half that time….
"I love it when a guy is bleeding on top of me." -- Diego Sanchez, post fight interview about his fight with Clay Guida
Dunno, just says he trains at the Tapout gym now.
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didn't that get robbed this year?
lol hammer house got there heavy bag back
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:10 AM EST up reply actions
10-9 Randleman IMO
Controlled better, coupled of takedowns, a reversal. And Nedkov did nothing really.
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It does when Nedkov does nothing.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions
randleman is 10-9 just based on the fact he's randleman in japan
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:07 AM EST up reply actions
Incisive comment from the Sherdog
Jordan Breen:
I like how after 13+ years in the game, Randleman still doesn’t move to keep his hips parallel with his opponents in guard. This is why when people ask “How good can K-1 fighter/BJJ guy/judoka X be at MMA?” you can only ever guess. You can never predict how any guy — no matter how athletically gifted — will pick up different parts of this game.
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up to 517 comments now too, shows the popularity of this show, or perhaps the above average intoxication of the viewers!
Night crew is a bit slower than it was 6 months ago. Or so it seems.
"I love it when a guy is bleeding on top of me." -- Diego Sanchez, post fight interview about his fight with Clay Guida
Tremendous comment from the Sherdog
Jordan Breen:
Nedkov not controlling Randleman’s upper body at all. The B in BJJ will never stand for “Bulgarian.”
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Fridley and Breen are on fire with this live thing they are doing—it’s a laugh riot.
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When? When he was on his back?
Nedkov did a damn good job in the first round though.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:11 AM EST up reply actions
Nedkov needs to get to the princess before the barrels come
or he’s done for
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
Metzger just said that the difference is different.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
you just blew my mind
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:13 AM EST up reply actions
wow man...
its like.. the inner me…is the enemy
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:14 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmmm....
10-10 round possibly.
20-19 Randleman
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Not worse than the Challengers’ women’s fight. That shit was brutal
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:17 AM EST up reply actions
Maybe after four years of BJJ training he got it out of pity?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Everytime Randleman gets yellow carded, it means he has to fight at least one more time in his career.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Nov 7, 2009 4:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
i hit refresh by accident
and now the comments are all weird and missing some
either that or i need more sleep
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that actually worked
ty ty
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:31 AM EST up reply actions
Hans might as well be on the damn broadcast
He’s the only one with any answers.
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I’m fairly certain that Randleman has thrown less than 4 strikes in his last 3 fights combined.
I specializes in grammar fail.
he fell on whitehead with his fist clenched a coupla times
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:23 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Maybe it's sleep deprivation
But I LOLed at that shit.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Hmmmm....
I’d say a draw, but Nedkov might get the nod if they have to decide.
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The audience should stand up and turn their backs on the fighters like in Bloodsport when the fighter gets killed.
by Jahbulon on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
HAHAHA
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 AM EST up reply actions
Can we just award victories to The Voice for these types of clunkers?
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why are the bulgarians celebrating like they just reached the moon
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
my first loss on mmaplayground…even though I can’t see my picks
"It would appear that the strain was more than he could bear".- Doc Holliday
by MyFistYourFace on Nov 7, 2009 4:32 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t know why, but I always feel bad for Randleman when he loses even though he isn’t one of my favorite fighters.
I just want to see him do well, and I don’t know why.
:/ yea they have to put th eold horses like coleman down
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:28 AM EST up reply actions
I wanted Wes Sims to do well on TUF
In a sense, he has done better than I honestly expected
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"this calls for the Gi..."
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:30 AM EST up reply actions
im not typing much slower.. that ^ is embrassing
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
the noise a cro cop headkick makes on impact
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:27 AM EST up reply actions
or the sound of his ankle as he fell like an old lady on ice
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:29 AM EST up reply actions
the press conference for the whitehead fight in strikeforce
made me want him to win sooo bad… its impossible to not like him
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
i gotta get some coffee..and a nap soon as this finishes if i wanna be awake for the fedro fight later
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
because the UK sucks and i want to watch this, and i wanted to see strikeforce
+ boxing AND fedor later tonight = sleep deprevation ..and coffee
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:43 AM EST up reply actions
lol ew
why the fuck did you do that
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:43 AM EST up reply actions
I'm about 1-2 fights away from crashing
COME ON KOs.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Yeah, Randleman seems to have spread the H1NzzZZZzzZZzzzZzz virus all over the planet with that performance.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 4:35 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve got Mitsuoka but I am not at all confident.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Same here, dropped dough on him.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yokota knocked out Schultz in his last fight didn’t he?
Poor Schultz, I was expecting big things coming out of the IFL.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Some good exchanges that round. Got Mitsuoka up slightly, but the judges probably went 10-10.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
What’s Chonan doing nowadays? I can’t remember
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
10-9 Mitsuoka
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O_o
eh?
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:49 AM EST up reply actions
to be fair, scalding my hand while rushing to make coffee so i didn't miss the randleman fight
was better than randleman
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:50 AM EST up reply actions
glad i stayed awake now
nice exchanges in this fight
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We’re looking at 20-20 or 20-19 Mitsuoka.
Not a big fan of 10-10 rounds, but Sengoku judges are and if you’re gonna score em then this fight is full of em.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
19-19
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This is the right gameplan for Yokota. Get Mitsuoka on his back, and make him work from there.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Close fight, but should go to Yokota. Mitsuoka just doesn’t have a big enough arsenal.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol corner yelling advice sounds like the old lady form happy gilmore
mista..mista!
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
29-28 Yokota
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Mitsuoka is a black belt in being a perennial bridesmaid.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Nov 7, 2009 4:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:58 AM EST up reply actions
why is everyone scoring it by rounds?
I thought the 10-point must system is universally hated yet you still apply it when you dont have to
Sengoku uses a 10 point must system and round scoring. That’s why.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 4:58 AM EST up reply actions
because he's guy....
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:01 AM EST up reply actions
Because he didn’t do his homework. I have seen images of the Sengoku pamphlet they hand out to people explaining the judging criteria. It’s by round, 10 point must.
Damage, Aggression, Control are the three criteria I believe.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 5:03 AM EST up reply actions
It makes sense, considering the scoring of Sandro/Omigawa and the like…but it’s been confusing me for a while now.
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It’s a PRIDE style system, but by round. That’s the best explanation I’ve heard.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 5:05 AM EST up reply actions
I was under the impression that it’s is just like any other 10-point must fight except the judges also pick a winner if they score it a draw.
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I thought they only did that because tournament rules applied and someone had to go on? Draws are possible, I believe.
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That makes sense, but for some reason I got the impression that the must decision thing applied to all the fights. Surely the announcers will explain it—- Tony?
Guy?
HANS???
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I think they still have to decide.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 5:18 AM EST up reply actions
thats how its scored...?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 4:58 AM EST up reply actions
Took awhile for me to find it, but...
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 5:10 AM EST up reply actions
There’s only three fights left. Seems kind of unnecessary. They probably planned one after Randleman, but cancelled it when they feared pepole wouldn’t come back.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Nov 7, 2009 5:02 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
randleman was the intermission
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you very sensitive about your unsexiness?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
he feels pretty
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:04 AM EST up reply actions
well aren't you
just cute as fuck
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:06 AM EST up reply actions
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
he just looks hot under the collar
lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:07 AM EST up reply actions
orly?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions
so that’s how the whole Rihanna/Brown thing started.
She called him a sexy beast so he hit her in the throat.
You shall never be forgiven.
Behold!
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 5:18 AM EST up reply actions
you, I think, are at least slightly if not fully gay. Don’t be ashamed. IMO, being attracted to men is a mental defect and that goes for women also.
i thought you were ill
brock?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:21 AM EST up reply actions
saying its a mental defect..
means you’re sexist? lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
you're face
is a mental defect
victory/
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:27 AM EST up reply actions
Tom Cruise just please come out of the closet.
by ZombieWamma on Nov 7, 2009 5:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if I were, it would hardly be a “mental defect”.
I fail to find the humor in your post.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 5:24 AM EST up reply actions
Izumi's striking. LOL
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yes, I am still conscious and I have only got one fight wrong tonight(to my knowledge)…Randleman ROBBED!
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lol robbed
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:19 AM EST up reply actions
Ueyama is the weirdest looking dude…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
later weo
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
lol can someone explain what that fight was about without using the word soul.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
It was about sloppy ass fighting and the Bull running.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
shite
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:22 AM EST up reply actions
lol at Metzger and Schiavello trashing this fight when they geeked out about the “great contest” between Randleman and Nedkov
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 5:23 AM EST reply actions
Where’s Santiago in the consensus rankings nowadays?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I don’t understand the logic with the number list in the comments, it just loves to throw a “1.” up there
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Really…four. People are collectively crazy.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
by Sam Cupitt on Nov 7, 2009 5:33 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It should have been Hioki vs. Sandro in the GP Final but whatevs…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Hah Hah -- UWFi
[Comment From Keishi in California Keishi in California : ]
Has U-File camp ever been a serious force?
Jordan Breen:
No, and never will be. They still put on proper catch wrestling cards that their guys train for, like it’s 1992 UWFi stuff. Asinine.
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Who’s the Scott Hall to that Chinese guys Kevin Nash?
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 5:31 AM EST reply actions
clutching as straws after the voice's wrestling reference
tsk tsk
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by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:31 AM EST up reply actions
my stream is lagging
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 5:32 AM EST up reply actions
lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:33 AM EST up reply actions
i havent heard anyone say loony binin ages
reminds me of stand by me
“tin picklewood loonies son!”
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:35 AM EST up reply actions
“When he dies, you just know they are going to find the skeletons of little boys in his attics, while his wife’s words continously play out on news broadcasts, “I always wondered about his collection of little shoes”".
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
This is the end…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Sakuraba Galesic much
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Slick.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol no shit
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:43 AM EST up reply actions
Jordan Breen:
What shade would you all say Kitaoka is here? He looks like a deep Miragliotta to me.
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lmao
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 5:43 AM EST up reply actions
Ref copped a nice one in the back of the head then.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
lol helluva post fight speech.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Yeah, his fight strategy doesn’t really lend itself to a sustained career.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I dunno, he said he considered hanging ’em up after the Hirota fight, and if what we just saw is all he could come up with…
Straight ass BEATING... jesus.
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all the way
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 5:53 AM EST up reply actions
I concur.
Make it so.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 5:53 AM EST up reply actions
A good and hard hitting striker always has me worried for Santiago’s consciousness.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
If Misaki didnt have a brain fart the whole Santiago hype train would be deflated. He’s definitely improved since his days in the UFC but I don’t see him in the same class as Fitch,Alves,Koscheck, etc.
Wrong weightclass homie, but even still…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I’m leaving milk and cookies out for Fedor tonight.
by Chris Nelson on Nov 7, 2009 5:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
lol rec’d
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 5:57 AM EST up reply actions
lol whoever made those rules wasn’t wanting Christmas to happen this year.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Woah, i predicted it but did not expect it…
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
or in Mamed's
from the look of that shot
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 6:06 AM EST up reply actions
YES!
Kid Nate eat your heart out!
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 6:01 AM EST reply actions
Not for the belt though, which is a bit of shame for Khalidov
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Holy fuck
Mamed hurt him with a hammerfist from his back to the temple.
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Looked like it.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 7, 2009 6:04 AM EST up reply actions
That’s what I thought I saw, too. Figured my blurry eyes were deceiving me.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:03 AM EST up reply actions
It’s that Santiago chin again. It makes a lasting appearance every now and then.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Consensus Rankings prediction.
After this weekend, what do the middleweight rankings look like?
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
from anderson's eyeline
something like this
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 6:07 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Gotta think Mamed will jump up to 20ish. Santiago probably drops 4 or 5 spots, like Okami.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:08 AM EST up reply actions
My quick attempt after six beers
Silva
Henderson
Marquardt
Belfort
Maia
Sonnen
Shields (assuming he wins)
Okami
Akiyama
Khalidov
Waaaaaay too high for Mamed.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
i'd have sheilds where maia is
and belfort where sonnen is
belfort’s last win was a catchweight, and if fights out of the weight count for ranking
then sheilds is higher, he’s undefeated since 04
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 7, 2009 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
Hells yeah... woke up in time for Hioki!
I still don’t understand what the big deal about Omigawa is and why he gets a main event, regardless of what happened in the GP.
Its the best Japanese featherweight in the world (and top 5 in the world) against another Japanese dude that scored a huge following after he started wrecking some famous foreign exports in a high profile tournament.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I know... I said "regardless of what happened in the GP"
I know Hioki is the best Japanese FW, and he deserves top billing. How come he came out first, as if he were the underdog?
Neither of them are champion, so it doesnt really matter what order they do come out. But if you wanted to explore it more, Omigawa fought in the final while Hioki didn’t.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Mullet of POW-AH!
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I think Minowa has shown definitively that it can work..
but the full power doesn’t reveal itself until you are at a serious size disadvantage
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OMigawa was doing the Serra mocking of Hughes stand up.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Hioki fights tall. Why? Because he is tall.
Smart. And very rare in MMA.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:23 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’d like to see how Hioki would do in the US. I think he’d give Mike Brown a lot of trouble, if he was able to frustrate him enough on the feet.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I he’d lazy kickbox him like today I think it’s a matter of time before Brown clocks him. And I’m a huge Hioki fan.
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 6:27 AM EST up reply actions
I’ll be nice and call a draw for the 3rd round. Fight is Hioki’s all the way, though.
I specializes in grammar fail.
30-27 Hioki with a must decision to Omigawa
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I WAS KIDDING C’MON!
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
WHAT
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
The japanese love their christmas.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Jordan Breen:
I heard 29-29 with a must for Hioki, 29-29 with a must for Omigawa, but couldn’t hear the final score as Schiavello and Mezger thought it’d be a good idea to talk over it. Somehow, I think that sums up the night perfectly.
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from just before the decision
Jordan Breen:
Hioki got repeatedly raked with Omigawa’s right hand in the third round despite it being telegraphed. 10-9 round for Omigawa. I have it 29-28 for Hioki, but I’m forseeing some draw scorecards, and honestly, I expect the “must” decisions to go Omigawa’s way.
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Must decisions
must go
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by greco-roman airlines on Nov 7, 2009 6:35 AM EST reply actions
Yeah, yeah, the man that didn’t win a round get the split decision COME ON!
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Ok fine, he got round 3…my hyperbole got the best of me.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Frankly it kinda makes sense
IF you grant round 2 as a draw, (which I didn’t) and you gave 1 to Hioki and 3 to Omigawa (both reasonable options), then you are left with the must decisions—which are the same old vague “whole fight” thing. Omigawa certainly did a lot in the last round, which was always the Pride standard for who would win…
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If you go on who did more to finish the fight, after you do the scorecards then I would value Hioki’s armbar attempt over Omigawa’s whiffing strikes.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Perhaps, but Japanese judging under the “whole fight” paradigm has a rather established tradition of favoring people who are throwing strikes aggressively at the end of a fight (now, I’d note that Hioki was doing this as well…)
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Overall I think this is basically the Japanese judges coming up all Warren Commission like with the “Magic Decision Theory”
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I’ve always found that part of the Japanese scoring system to be irredeemably subjective. The rest I’m fine with, but weighting the 3rd round is just ridiculous.
Why even bother having non-final rounds if they aren’t going to count for anything…
And on no planet did Omigawa get a draw in either the 1st or 2nd rounds.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:42 AM EST up reply actions
In Japanese MMA, scoring decisions have historically been influenced by the final round. This is fairly well-established. It’s more of an informal rule than anything coming from the scoring criteria.
It’s why this kind of scoring doesn’t go well with the 3-round system. It was better suited for Pride, and even then there were some massive screwjobs.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:46 AM EST up reply actions
They score it round by round though, how would they weight the third? Do you mean the must point is based on the third round? That’s probably true.
I still don’t think PRIDE was all about the third round and that they did a good job of scoring fights as a whole, but I’m probably the only one who thinks that.
Who knows how they turn in their scorecards for Sengoku. If it’s after the fight as a whole, I wouldn’t be surprised in the least bit if they awarded their magical “must” points to whoever they liked at the end, instead of after every round. This emphasis on imaginary aggression, or whoever they perceive to the fan favorite, is ridiculous.
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by a tommy point on Nov 7, 2009 6:57 AM EST up reply actions
The “Must Decisions” are definitely given at the end, because their only purpose is to prevent a draw. If a judge has a draw, the choose the winner subjectively at the end. If they have a winner, that is what they report.
The pitfalls in such a system are pretty evident, as we saw (again) tonight.
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The real flaw in the Sengoku system is that it encourages overuse of draw rounds so that (and due to the fact that) the judges have the “Must decision” whole fight option in reserve.
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It’s basically K1 but instead of an extension round they just make something up.
by omigawda on Nov 7, 2009 6:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly, K-1 scoring works if you are prepared to let them go an additional round. That’s why I dislike 10-10 rounds in MMA. In a 3-round fight, it doesn’t take much to make it a draw.
Sengoku have 10-10 rounds, know people dislike draws so they have the must decision so they can give it to the fighter who they think the crowd will like more.
This is nutty. Hioki should not have that loss on his record.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
Well an 8-8-1 record for Omigawa. Never thought I’d see the day he evened it up.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
This is less an example of "Armed Robbery" and more an example of why whole fight judging is no silver bullet solution to the judging conundrum
Though it is a very questionable decision at that.
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Can someone clear up how Sengoku judges fights for me.
I believe it is this way. They score it on the 10 point must system with an emphasis on giving 10-10 rounds to anything remotely close. If the fight ends up a draw the judges give the fight to the fighter they though did the most damage in the fight.
Not that I condone facism or any ism for that matter. Isms are in my opinion, not good. A person shouldn't believe in an ism, he should believe in himself.
I quote John Lennon, "I don't believe in Beatles, I just believe in me". Good point there, after all he was the walrus. I could be the walrus. Wouldn't change the fact I have to bum rides off of people.
I don’t know for sure that the rules are such that they have a specified emphasis to give 10-10 rounds—but regardless it happens that they have a certain incentive to do so, because they always have the “must decision” sitting in their pocket if the fight ends up a draw.
There are other promotions in Japan (Shooto, for example) that hand out a lot of 10-10 rounds, but they have draws rather than “Must Decision” victories—or the K-1 example noted above by omigawda, wherein they tack-on extra rounds.
In theory the Sengoku system has a certain logic to it, in that the “Must Decisions” would only appear to allow for subjective judging of very close fights. In application, it seems that some fights that were somewhat close end up being decided by the “must decision” paradigm, which of course is as vague as “whole fight judging” and seems to lead to questionable outcomes.
It’s almost the reverse of the current state of North American judging, which, in my opinion, grants too few 10-10 rounds, and therefore decides too many close fights based on questionably close round-by-round judgment calls.
We just can’t win for losing when it comes to better judging. Hopefully both hemispheres continue to improve, because it just stinks to have a good event end on a sour note.
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