Quote of the Day 2: The Nothingness of Fedor Emelianenko's Stare
by Luke Thomas on Nov 6, 2009 1:15 PM EST
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"He's definitely a different fighter," said Rogers of the heavyweight champion, who will put his legacy and nine-year unbeaten streak on the line Saturday on CBS (9 p.m. ET/PT). "I look into his eyes and I see nothing. I don't see if he's serious. I don't see if he's trying to be funny. I can't sense anything from him. A lot of people say, 'Don't pay attention to his demeanor because it will psyche you out.' It's true. I feel that."
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If you gaze into the abyss,
the abyss gazes also into you.
by rzor on Nov 6, 2009 12:42 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Kind of ironic that this comment comes from a guy who calls himself “The Grim.”
by cyke on Nov 6, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fuck Nietzsche
but rec’d
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 6, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
“If you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.”
someone’s been watching Flashforward. This is kinda wierd that I just got done watching it on Hulu before switching back to BE and read the comments.
by YoungGun on Nov 6, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've never watched the show
because I read the book about a year ago. Judging from the previews it looks like they took too many liberties with the story. I started reading Nietzsche after watching 2001: A Space Odyssey.
by rzor on Nov 6, 2009 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just thought it was ironic that I just got done hearing someone use the same quote then read it on a completely unrelated blog 2 mins later.
by YoungGun on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that quote is supposedly about confronting your own free will — standing on the edge of the cliff (abyss) and knowing nothing but personal choice stops you from jumping to your death
kinda like signing the contract to fight Fedor.
by judonerd on Nov 6, 2009 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My interpretation has always been
something like “if you lie with dogs, you’ll wake up with fleas.” The more you examine and encounter the unseemly, the more it becomes a part of you.
by rzor on Nov 6, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of people say, ’Don’t pay attention to his demeanor because it will psyche you out.’ It’s true. I feel that.
Rogers has already lost.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:49 PM EST reply actions 10 recs
Yup.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
by FRANKIE on Nov 6, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on , just because of that you think he’ll lose ? If he’s gonna lose it’s because he’s not good enough …Arlovski went to the ring like a lion and look what happened . Also Ogawa , Nogueira was confident against Fedor in both fights , Cro Cop , Randleman …Coleman …they were all confident and lost .
And btw Brett seems confident to me too , this statement doesn’t really say much.
by JoelMan on Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to MMA...
When he said he didn’t feel psyched out and that Fedor is just another man people were throwing around “he already lost because he doesn’t ‘get it’” now he says that he is a little bit psyched out by the demeanor and it’s that he already lost because he gets it.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I personally felt his biggest advantage was that he didn’t buy into any myth—now that Rogers is “feelin it” he is fucked.
by judonerd on Nov 6, 2009 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs a hug, or at least a little ice cream.
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
by mma is #1 on Nov 6, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve always liked this pic.
Fedorable…
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor’s “O” face. :)
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just think….
Inside the stoic gaze… lies the beast within.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The cold stare of a million Russian souls.
by bleve_ on Nov 6, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
His gaze freaks me the fuck out and I'm watching it on TV.
Imagine if he was looking at you in person and both of you know you’re going to fight soon.
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by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 6, 2009 12:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have this sinking feeling that Rogers is ‘just dumb enough to win’, as the saying goes. Not a comment on his intelligence in any way whatsoever. Rather, he has a very simple, straight forward style and, mentally, he seems completely unaware of what he’s getting into. Sometimes that works for a fighter/athlete/team when faced with a seemingly monumental challenge.
We’ve seen these kinds of upsets under the same circumstances in all sports.
I really don’t like this fight for Fedor.
I specializes in grammar fail.
by a tommy point on Nov 6, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You could have a point...
Reminds me a little Bowles when he went to fight Torres, completely unfazed.
by mburtoni on Nov 6, 2009 1:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but we all knew that Torres was reckless and would eventually get caught. It’s not like we never saw him in trouble before, 2 out of 3 of his fights previous to Bowles were all out wars, and he wasn’t exactly dominating. Great fighter, I love him, and I hope he comes back stronger and a little more cautious, but I knew he’d get caught eventually.
I don’t think you can say the same of Fedor
by Shaun32887 on Nov 6, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The difference is really that Fedor HAS been caught before. The Randleman suplex, the Fujita “salmon dance” right hand, and others…Of course after each of those incidents, Fedor finished the fight less than a minute later. So thus far, “catching Fedor” has been like catching a great white shark, you’re really just bringing him into the boat with you, and good luck!
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 6, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
"catching Fedor" has been like catching a great white shark, you're really just bringing him into the boat with you"
Classic.
by MauiPimpin on Nov 6, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Difference is, this shark is going to get in your boat regardless of whether or not you catch him.
by szucconi on Nov 6, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Brett’s gonna need a bigger boat.
by nottheface on Nov 6, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That was pretty much my point,
we’ve seen glimpses of what would be Torres’ downfall before it actually happened. Fedor has looked cool, collected, and in control through the worst of it all, so I don’t think the Torres/Bowles comparison was valid
by Shaun32887 on Nov 7, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I wasn’t really arguing with you or anything, just honing your point. I think we’d both agree that the difference between Fedor and any other great fighter, whether GSP, Machida, Anderson, or whoever, is that all the questions have already been answered along the way. The only one left is just how long will Fedor continue on as he is. He’s still fairly young, and I’d guess he’s got a few prime years left in him.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 7, 2009 5:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
common man ..... Fedor is # 1
he has to fight top comp, and big scary dudes. and win….that is why he is considered the best. cant wait for Lashley to sign with SF …. so Fedia will SUB or KO him. that will put Fedor haters in their corner.
by OnewayTiket on Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why on Earth would Fedor beating Bobby Lashley put Fedor haters in a corner? Lashley barely beat Jason f’n Guida… Lashley isn’t even close to being highly ranked. Wtf?
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by AboveThisFire on Nov 6, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Allow me to preemptively apologize if you were being sarcastic by the way.
The mat is my church, the ground is my heaven, Jiu-Jitsu is my religion. And once you hit the ground you're in my world. My world is like the ocean, I’m like a shark and most people don't even know how to swim - Draculino
by AboveThisFire on Nov 6, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nope , people who call Fedor Fedya aren’t kidding , ever . They are ultra nut huggers , and this is coming from a respected Fedor nut hugger …
by JoelMan on Nov 6, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm is hard to tell over the interwebs :(
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by AboveThisFire on Nov 6, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It does psyche you out. I once looked at a picture of Fedor looking into the camera and I drew teddy bears and rainbows for the rest of the week. This guy is for real.
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by IHateMMA on Nov 6, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think the sweater is the key....
Think about it, Fedor always seems to have human emotions whenever he wears it, maybe thats how you can beat him, make him wear it to a fight!!!!
Everyone has a game plan, untell they get hit.
by mma is #1 on Nov 6, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sweater is his soul? His connection to his human half that his cyborg half occasionally permits…?
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
by woomikee on Nov 6, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The cloak of empathy. By the way, where is your sig quote from? That’s friggin’ hilarious.
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 6, 2009 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ha! That’s great. Haven’t seen the episode yet…Thanks!
by Kwisatz Haderach on Nov 6, 2009 5:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is that Aleks he’s pushing that monkey to? Good thing it’s Fedor that’s doing that – any one else would run the risk of getting murdered were they to do something like that.
by lhasafi on Nov 6, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
the great thing about Fedor’s “look” is that he doen’t look like he wants to hurt you or doesn’t want to hurt you. when he fights, he looks like he’s completely indifferent to human life. you’re simply another body to him.
i like that demeanor.
by bobthewriter on Nov 6, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That is because we are insignificant tohim. Kind of like Galactus from the old FF comic books.
by nottheface on Nov 6, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I see every opponent as a man that tries to put me back to that poorer period. That man has to be eliminated.
Business is business.
by kid_eh on Nov 6, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He must have all sorts of nasty things planned for M-1.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Fedor enjoys destroying people like I enjoy drawing pictures
Its a game, a sport to him. He doesn’t seem to need to hate or tap into emotion to fight.
by judonerd on Nov 6, 2009 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Marian, don’t look at it, shut your eyes. Don’t look at it no matter what happens.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 1:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Brett’s going to roll out the charge of the light brigade for this one.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
More proof for my point: Fedor is not human. He is a machine. Unfortunately, Vadim Finkelstein has the kill switch in his pocket.
Note: in Fedor’s case, “kill switch” means the switch that makes him fight.
by lhasafi on Nov 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the 12 faces of Fedor
A few years back I read an article called the 12 faces of Fedor it showed him in 12 different situations all with the same expression. It’s almost like he goes into a trance and just turns into a stone faced statue. If any one knows that article post it. it’s worth a look.
by son of mark on Nov 6, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this one?
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by Kid Nate on Nov 6, 2009 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that's the one. awesome
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by son of mark on Nov 6, 2009 10:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor's sweater vs Aoki's pants
Which one has more magical properties and what if they were worn at the same time?
by Headkick on Nov 6, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Cro Cop had that stare once. I hope to god it does not desert Fedor anytime soon :-(
by Rob J Nathan on Nov 6, 2009 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was the fight in which Wanderlei talked all sorts of shit and pissed CroCop off to no end.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha yes it was … that stare down was crazy. Cro Cop also said that Wand was “Acting like maniac” … Brilliant pre-fight interview from both of them!
by Rob J Nathan on Nov 6, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's from their first fight, yes?
Didn’t CC get his ass handed to him, but it was ruled a draw because of special rules?
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by themachiavellian on Nov 6, 2009 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite Fedor moment
is that you tube video of Fedor in his locker room watching Aleks fight Cro Cop. When Aleks gets smashed, you can see Fedor licking his chops to return the favor. That is the most emotion I have ever seen from the Cyborg.
by I don't wear mma t-shirts on Nov 6, 2009 3:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N78SuVHM9CM
About the 2:45 mark.
by nottheface on Nov 6, 2009 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhFoQf70198
- mixed, not shaken
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by mikser on Nov 6, 2009 7:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fedor was in Aleks’ corner when that happened.
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No. Fedor was backstage preparing for his fight against Naoya Ogawa.
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by mikser on Nov 6, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If anyone had put money down on Rogers, try and get it back.
Anyone else who wants to bet on him, don’t.. because he has already admitted defeat.
by grein on Nov 6, 2009 4:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I feel a lot of people are pretty confident going into the fight until they’re actually standing face to face with him and they’re all pumped up/nervous/etc and they see him in the other corner looking like he’s ready to go to sleep.
by YoungGun on Nov 6, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just to add a small personal insight to this.
I was at the recent M-1 event in Kansas City where Fedor and Mousasi gave their grappling exhibition. After the event, I waited in line at the Fedor autograph signing, to have my fight program signed by him.
When I stepped up to give him my book, I made eye contact as he handed it back. I’m not simply saying this for dramatic effect now, but simply recounting what I thought at the time – he has a VERY odd look. He looked directly at me and yet I couldn’t see ANYTHING that was going on upstairs. It was actually unnerving, and this was at a damn autograph session!!! Like someone above said, imagine if I received that look in the ring when I was about to fight him!
Fedor is a very unique individual.
by Numbers on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
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