Quote of the Day: Brett Rogers Talks Fedor Emelianenko and What a Difference a Cage Makes

by Kid Nate on Nov 6, 2009 11:31 AM EST in News Comment 23 comments

"It is going to matter when it comes to being used to ducking out through the ring, and any time you can move your hand through the ring or duck your butt out through the ring. I mean, you can't do that in a cage, so I'm going to use that to my advantage and lock it up. His natural instincts, since he's (been) fighting mostly in the ring, is going to be to think the same way, and he can't do those things. So if I'm in that position, I'm definitely going to use it for my advantage."

Brett Rogers by way of Sergio Non.

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I will say...

While I don’t think that Brett “The Grim” Rogers will beat Fedor, Rogers has definitely made the most out of being on the main event of this Strikeforce card.

by chrisbboy82 on Nov 6, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Was just gonna say that

Rogers optimism almost has me believing that he has a chance.

"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick

by mythbuster on Nov 6, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs

it sure seems he has a basic understanding of

what he needs to do, but knowing and implementing are radically different from each other.

A bad night for Rogers methinks.

by soadtrails on Nov 6, 2009 12:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Definitely has a chance, but not sure optimism and a strong punch can overcome a decade of Sambo mastery. I do love Brett’s attitude though.

by bleve_ on Nov 6, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Can't argue with that

by Shaun32887 on Nov 6, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it sounds like hes never seen any of Fedor’s previous fights…

Fedor is the one people are hiding from in the ropes… not the other way around.

I really hope Fedor smashes him so he will go away.

by haggardhero on Nov 6, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

That’s not entirely true.

Fedor used the ‘stick your ass through the ropes’ method to counter the double leg attempts of Mark Coleman and he also used a stealthy little rope grab to reverse Matt Lindland mid-throw. Also, a lot of the armbars he has landed have come while he was near the ropes. Those same armbars might not be available if he is pinned up against the cage.

There definitely are some nuances of fighting in the ring that Fedor has taken advantage of.

by Steve4192 on Nov 6, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he also used a stealthy little rope grab to reverse Matt Lindland mid-throw

That’s simply not true. Fedor was able to reverse Lindland because he managed to get one foot to the ground. Watch carefully.

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by mikser on Nov 6, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This

He countered with an uchi mata, not a rope grab. He did use the ropes to prevent the first moments of the takedown tho

by judonerd on Nov 7, 2009 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Can you imagine the leverage Emelianenko would get from having feet against the cage floor and powering down onto a double-leg-scoop attacker that isn’t available against the ropes of a ring?

And when exactly would Rogers be shooting in?

by BlueFlamer on Nov 6, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hoping to have an advantage over someone’s instincts seems pretty futile against one of the most methodical, intelligent fighters in MMA.

by BTastros on Nov 6, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Fedor being able to stack people up against the cage is something you don’t think about if you like to sleep at night.

Keep firing Assholes!

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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 11:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

If he’s going into a fight, thinking that it’s the same person that fought in a ring, then he’s gonna be in for a rude awakening.

by grein on Nov 6, 2009 11:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Or, more likely, the rude begining to a quick nap.

by Razreshat on Nov 6, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

“It is going to matter when it comes to being used to your opponents ducking out through the ring, and any time they can move their hand through the ring or duck their butt out through the ring. I mean, you can’t do that in a cage, so he’s going to be really pleasantly surprised when my head gets propped up against the side of the post and the ref won’t move us to the center, so he’ll just be able to tee off with the best ground and pound in MMA at will”

by kid_eh on Nov 6, 2009 11:55 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

The more I hear from Rogers, the more I think this fight will be over sooner than I thought. I initially figured it might take a round. Now I’m thinking under two minutes. Fedor will probably drop him with an overhand, then either submit him on the ground, or GnP the shit out of him.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 11:58 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Rogers should stop doing PR because he’s going to lose the one thing he had going for him: HIS CONFIDENCE.

Everyone he’s talking to basically eludes to the impossibility of defeating Fedor. That shit can psyche you out no matter how confident you are.

If Brett can stop the takedown I estimate that he’s got a 30% chance of winning. If he cant stop the takedown he has a 1% chance of winning.

I hope for his sake he’s been training with Judo guys… unfortunately I think he and his training camp is way over there heads.

by mmalogic on Nov 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah. I think Rogers is gonna go head hunting. It’s one thing to bullrush Arlovski, but completely another to do that to Fedor. I think he’s gonna be really surprised. Then we’re gonna have to hear an earfull from the announcers about how Fedor is Muhammad Ali or God.

I love me some Sexyama!

by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

"Rogers should stop doing PR because"

Because Fedor is? No, Roger’s PR is going to highly responsible for allot of the exposure this fight gets.

by Razreshat on Nov 6, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rogers should care more about winning than exposure… if he wins he’ll get paid more no matter how much exposure this show gets.

by mmalogic on Nov 6, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Brett makes a vary valid point here

Do I think that means he has an over all advantage ?? No..

But he does make a valid point. Fighting in a ring is different from a cage and the tactics used in both the ring and cage differ. In the cage he is not used to pinned down against a cage. In the ring there is no where to truly “pin” someone down. You can hold them down to a certain extent. But in a cage.. if you’re up against the side of the fence and an opponent has you pinned down against it.. That’s a very dynamic part of the fight that could favor a bigger stronger guy.

Fighting instincts play a major role in the outcome of a fight. Ask any fighter, amateur or professional, and they’ll tell you there is a difference between the ring and cage. Fedor may have to adjust on the fly to certain things he hasn’t had to do before inside the cage. In cage fighting, the cage can be a weapon too.. You can use it for advantageous positioning in regard to grappling or clinching. In a ring, where grappling takes place, you can stall and learn techniques against the ropes to halt the action and reset, giving you a better option to free yourself from a bad position or a rest period (as brief as it may be)..

This is interesting in a certain aspect.. It would be better if Elbows were allowed because that’s a entirely different aspect or dynamic to cage fighting that Fedor has yet to show he can handle..

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by MMAuthority on Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Fedor may have to adjust on the fly to certain things he hasn’t had to do before inside the cage.

Might he have at least trained for this? Why on the fly?

by BlueFlamer on Nov 6, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yeah, I am pretty sure they’ve practiced escapes and strategy against a cage in training camp…Feor said himself that they have worked training in a cage for this fight. I also think Fedor is the type of fighter that is smart enough to use tactics he’s trained from his most recent training camp vs other fighters that train their but off and then forget everything they were supposed to do when the bell rang.

by YoungGun on Nov 6, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs