Strikeforce: Fedor vs. Rogers Weigh-in Results
by Nick Thomas on Nov 6, 2009 6:25 PM EST
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Make sure to join us at Bloodyelbow.com when HDNet's Inside MMA broadcasts "Fedor vs. Rogers" weigh-ins live at 6:00 PM EST:
Broadcast on HDNet has just begun!
Main Bouts (on CBS):
- Fedor Emelianenko (232 lbs) vs. Brett Rogers (264 lbs)
- Jason "Mayhem" Miller (184 lbs) vs. Jake Shields (184.5 lbs)
- Gegard Mousasi (205 lbs) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (204 lbs)
- Antonio Silva (263 lbs) vs. Fabricio Werdum (242 lbs)
Preliminary Bouts:
- Marloes Coenen (145 lbs) vs. Roxanne Modafferi (140 lbs)
- Jeff Curran (145 lbs) vs. Dustin Neace (150 lbs)
- Shamar Bailey (170 lbs) vs. John Kolosci (171 lbs)
- Deray Davis (170.5 lbs) vs. Mark Miller (171 lbs)
- Nate Moore (184 lbs) vs. Louis Taylor (185.5 lbs)
- Jonatas Novaes (155.5 lbs) vs. Christian Uflacker (156 lbs)
Updates from Brent Brookhouse via text message:
Very good public turnout. They were just let in the building.
They’re showing the fight camp 360 thing
Jimmy Lennon getting the crowd into it, Showing the CBS Fight Preview for Tomorrow's show
They just said time permitting, they'll be showing the women's fight on CBS.
Aoki is on the stage
Henderson walking around doing autographs, Won't answer fans asking if he signed deal.
- Antonio Silva (263 lbs) vs. Fabricio Werdum (242 lbs)
Gegard Mousasi (205 lbs) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (204 lbs)
Jason "Mayhem" Miller (184 lbs) vs. Jake Shields (184.5 lbs)
Fedor Emelianenko (232 lbs) vs. Brett Rogers (264 lbs)
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i must have missed this ...
but why isn’t Mousasi defending his title against Sokoudjo?
Coker talks about it in this interview – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYUfQSJ17ZY at the 2:40 min mark. He said it was because Sokoudjou wasn’t ranked in the top 10.
that wont say much for their champion then if he loses to a guy who wasnt good enough to even fight for the title
It’s MMA we are talking about, not boxing. In MMA everybody loses sooner or later and it doesn’t mean that the winner is a better fighter.
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ya but if your champion lost to a guy who they say wasnt good enough to fight for the title what does that say about your champion
It might say that he got caught, or that he wasn’t ready (mentally prepared), or that referees or judges screwed up, or whatever reason there might be. It doesn’t mean, that the winner is a better overall fighter than the loser.
Watch Anderson “The Spider” Silva VS Ryo Chonan or Fedor VS Tsuyoshi Kosaka (first match, the one Fedor “lost”).
I think that the Championship title should be earned. Constantly and not by winning only one fight.
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so a title match means nothing to you, eh?
by bobthewriter on Nov 6, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
It means, but it means that two accomplished fighters compete to decide who is the ultimate king of the hill.
People should get rid of all the misconceptions that the boxing world brought, and start thinking from the pure MMA point of view.
I prefer Japanese system, when there are separately title matches between accomplished fighters and there are non-title fights (entertainment, tournaments, freak-matches against Zulus of the world).
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when someone is a champion
they should defend their title. if Soko was the best fighter against whom they could pit Mousasi, it should be a title fight.
just my opinion. they’re fighting at 205, right? that’s the weight at which Mousasi holds the belt. it’s going to be massively embarrassing for him if he loses.
not that i think he will — if you last the first four minutes against Soko, you can crush him.
by bobthewriter on Nov 6, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
We can agree to disagree on this one. I prefer to see my favorite fighters in the ring/cage 4-5 times a year (even if that means that only few of these fights will be title-matches) instead of 1-3 times a year (with all fights being title-matches).
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I think it’s a wise move for Strikeforce to have him not defend his title. I see your point though and it could definitely backfire but I’m of the opinion that just because a champion is fighting somebody it doesn’t necessarily have to be a title fight. I would have never put Cote or Leites in for the title.
"I will do nothing lightly. When I walk, I will walk heavily. When I fight, I will fight with conviction. When I speak, I will speak strongly. When I love, I will love with everything"
Im not saying that Soko is better than Mousasi but if casual fans see the champ lose but remain the champ it really does look good and then to make excuses like you say makes it even worse. Dont think it matters if he earned it or not, if the champ loses he shouldnt be the champion anymore
I agree with you that it doesn’t look good from the casual fans’ perspective, who are used to the boxing rules. But I am not talking about this – I am talking about MMA from the knowledgeable point of view.
If Soko wins Mousasi, he will prove himself as worthy of the title-shot. And then they can have a rematch for the title.
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k well that makes absolutely no sense but seeing that you’re all about russian mma and m-1 i can at least understand why you believe this way
The boxing rules totally got you, my friend. :)
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The problem here though…is that being “champion” means that you are the top of the division. Having an off night isn’t an excuse. You’re either king of the hill or you aren’t. That’s the point of a title. Rankings exist to do the arbitrary “who is best” fights exist to produce results.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, it’s not an excuse. Not an excuse to lose the fight. But neither it is an excuse to give a title to somebody based on only one win.
Japanese system gives so much more flexibility. There are a tons of fights I would like to see, where the champion would fight against somebody who provides interesting style/entertainment, but is not worthy of a title (at least not just yet). Using the “champion only fights for the title” rule these fights will never happen.
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So who gets to decide who's "worthy"?
That sounds more subjective than any other system I can imagine. The room for corruption, bias and retaliation is rather large. If a champ fights, it should be for his belt. Who is qualified to tell a challenger “You are not worthy of the belt, even if you beat the champion”? That just stinks of elitism to the rankest degree.
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
It's the fun of combat...
all it takes is a chance and a punch. You just need your opportunity to get in the ring with the champ and try to take the belt away. Matt Serra wasn’t “worthy” of his title shot I guess…so he shouldn’t have that period as champion. Sure…it ruins a great dramatic moment in the history of the sport…but whatever.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
I think we're agreeing here....
:)
"I would approve signing a pitcher that ate kitten tacos if he won 20 games a year." -BPinOK
The question can be easily turned around. Right now it’s the same kind of room for corruption and bias.
Okami, Lesnar, Maia, Henderson, Marquardt, Belfort… And that’s just recently…
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OK...
So lets say Bob Sapp is brought in to fight Brock Lesnar…By some miracle Sapp wins. I agree Sap is an undeserving champion, but it hardly seems like Lesnar is deseves to keep his belt in that case either.
First, let’s pretend that Lesnar earned his title-fight. :)
If Sapp would have won, he would have proved that he is worthy of the title fight. Then they should just book rematch with winner getting a title.
So you are saying that the champion who lost should be stripped from his belt? I am not against it (taking the belt away from the virtual Lesnar). I am simply against giving the belt (to the likes of Sapp).
Does it make sense now?
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Doesn't it prove...
that he was worthy of the title shot once he wins and defends? Why wait for a rematch? Isn’t the magic of combat that it just takes one punch to win the belt?
It’s the old poker “a chip and a chair is all it takes” saying.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
If he wins the second time – then yes. And winning the title in two fights is a way faster than having to fight a bunch of other contenders in a row and only then fighting for the title.
The organization I am for is good because:
- we can the champion fighting more often
- it’s fair to other guys who are taking the usual slow road
- it’s fair for the lucky contender: it’s balanced with the slower approach (it’s a faster road, but the reward is smaller)
- it gives more flexibility (two ways to get the title)
- it takes the approach really suitable for MMA, instead of blindly following the rules from the boxing world
- etc, etc…
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Does it make sense now?
Not really. MMA is not like a game of H-O-R-S-E where you make an impossible shot, then someone gets to say, “Prove it” and you have to do it again. Yes, there are politics, but you know what? More often than not, the right guy gets a shot, and if the champ loses as a monster favorite, he can work for the rematch, like GSP did.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
man there are some unintelligible arguments that go on during posts sometimes…but this has got to be at the top.
this is like “you have to beat the champ, to become the champ” X 1000
by jgersh on Nov 6, 2009 5:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You should forget about boxing and start thinking what would the best rules for MMA be like. Don’t be so shallow – the sport is new and the best formula has not yet been figured out.
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You are the ONLY PERSON that keeps mentioning boxing! I don’t know all the latin logical argument terms, but I’m fairly certain you’re doing one of them, and it involves putting words (or thoughts) into our mouths.
"That feeling after you win and they raise your hand... it's like you have this energy that releases from your body, and it's like you mingle with the cosmos, and you feel omnipotent"
Not consciously, that’s for sure.
My point is that current UFC system/rules/procedures are extremely pro-boxing. And a lot of people here are doing the same (mistake, imo). Whether you realize it or not.
10-points must system, the lack of draws, refereeing and judging (Cecil Peoples, mmm), title contentions, etc etc. I don’t think that all this makes justice to the sport of MMA.
I could talk for hours about this painful subject, but I won’t…
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What i dont understand is that you say Sapp would have “earned” his title shot by beating Lesnar, but you say Lesnar did not deserve his title shot. Did Lesnar not beat Couture for the title and defend it against the man he lost to?
By your own logic, you are contradicting yourself.
My Lesnar comment was a little offtopic, and I apologize if it confused you.
My point on Lesnar is that he didn’t deserve the title shot against Randy. He was 2-1 (coming from the loss to Mir and a decision win against Heath Herring, which wasn’t that impressive because Heath just can’t do anything against wrestlers, and Lesnar couldn’t even finish him).
UFC’s HW division wasn’t too deep at the time and I am ok with Lesnar vs Couture fight because of its entertainment value. But do I think that it should have been a title fight? No. Lesnar didn’t deserve a shot. As far as I am concerned, the fight was even right until Brock caught Randy to the back of the head.
I would loved to see an instant rematch for the actual title. If Brock won – he would have proved himself as a fighter worthy of the championship belt.
After he won the second Mir fight, he almost proved himself in my eyes, but that (level of my approval) is beyond the topic (of having two ways to get a belt).
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Actually it was something in between. But it doesn’t really matter where exactly, because the effect is the same.
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It doesn’t where he punched him. Randy went down, Brock won and defended his title. If you’re going to be so black and white about who gets title shots, then at least validate the person when they achieve it.
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I didn’t say, that Lesnar didn’t win that fight. He won. And even though it was to the illegal area, it’s ok because it was standup and Randy’s fault in covering. Lesnar won – kudos to him.
Please try to distinguish “Lesnar won the fight” and “at that time Lesnar didn’t prove himself to deserve a title shot”. These are different things, like I was trying to tell all the time.
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If Brock won – he would have proved himself as a fighter worthy of the championship belt.
After he won the second Mir fight, he almost proved himself in my eyes,
For the record, we get it, we ALL get what you’re going on about. I just wanted you to make sure you’re actually aware of what you’re posting.
Brock beat the title holder in Randy and avenged his loss by destroying Mir who was the interim champion.
Doesn’t that prove that maybe he DID in fact deserve his shot at Randy’s belt?
There are two different aspects we are talking about:
1. skills
2. merits
We can’t really judge only based on skills (seen in training). Because it’s all just about whether or not one believes that fighter X has necessary skills. And that’s purely the “room for corruption, bias and retaliation” thing we discussed earlier.
Skills cannot truly and fully be taken into account unless proven in the ring/cage. It’s like with Cain Valaz. – a huge amount of hype about him being a top contender, but when he came in a cage we all saw that his stand-up sucks and that he has no power in his punches (like Shane Carwin or Lesnar). There went hopes and believes of many people…
My point is that Lesnar may have had actual skills, but he didn’t have enough merits (proven skills) to get a title shot.
People can argue until the end of times about skills one fighter possesses or doesn’t. But that’s all pure faith BS unless it’s proven in practice.
That’s the beauty of my proposal: fighters don’t necessarily have to lick promoters’ nuts and spend a huge amount of time boosting their public merits, instead they have a possibility for a fast-track.
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So what you're saying is
People who are fighting a titleholder only deserve to potentially win the title if you think they’re good enough?
I didn’t decide the Pride’s fighters’ worthiness to get a title shot, but I was fully happy with the arrangement. It’s not about me, never was.
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lol
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
by blubber_guard on Nov 6, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions
I think its fine. If Soko beats him they have a rematch with the title really on the line.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I think its fine. If Soko beats him they have a rematch with the title really on the line.
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
super
super psyched for this now kowing UK gets it in HD for free..24 hour delay though
+ new look BE… easier on the eyes with the frame change
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions
Brent, where are the weigh ins going to take place? I am in the Chicago area and would like to go myself.
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They're in the sears centre in hoffman estates...
the same place as the fight itself. From their media info they’ve been sending out:
Final Weigh-In: Sears Centre – Main Concourse
5333 Prairie Stone Parkway
Hoffman Estates, IL 60192
OPEN TO THE PUBLIC
Doors open at 4:00 p.m. CST
Fighters on the scales at 5:00 p.m. CST
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
One hour till weigh-ins, folks.
I’ll be providing up-to-date results via HDNet and through Brent’s texts. I’ll also try to throw up anything else Brent sends me along with his Twitter photos if he can get reception.
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Are you not going to the event?
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Nope, we can only send one person. Brent got it.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
I meant of your own accord. I know you’re a midwest guy. I wanted to go, but had too much work to leave town.
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-Sakuraba
I have way too much shit going on at work to go this time.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but…
Does anyone happen to know a stream of the weigh-in’s?, for us Europeans who aren’t able to see it on TV.
Jimmy Lennon getting the crowd into it, Showing the CBS Fight Preview for Tomorrow’s show
They just said time permitting, they’ll be showing the women’s fight on CBS.
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Cool
I’m going to post anything Brent sends me.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:05 PM EST up reply actions
HERE WE GO
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I bet Rogers comes in under 265.
Keep firing Assholes!
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- Antonio Silva (263 lbs) vs. Fabricio Werdum (242 lbs)
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Uh oh. Maybe he thought it would be a good idea to bulk up for Bigfoot, but that’s over 15 lbs. heavier than was against Mike Kyle. And a lot closer to his weight in the JDS fight.
by JRN on Nov 6, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions
- Gegard Mousasi (205 lbs) vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou (204 lbs)
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What’s with all of the mumbling and shit? Do these guys realize they’re mic’d?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
Soko: I’m fuked.
Mousasi: Yep.
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Gegard looked a bit uncomfortable there. Social anxiety?
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
He often looks awkward. He is an awkward guy. But it usually works out anyway.
He looked very awkward before his last match too. It went rather swell.
REP 4 ARMOS..... GO GEGARD !
there aren’t lots of Armenian guys in MMA….we have some good dudes, boxers and Judo, i wish i had money to go to Armenia and put on a BJJ Gym and get some good coaches … would have been next ED Sores (i mean rich and powerful).
PS last part was a JK
FEDOR IS 2 POUNDS OVERWEIGHT
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Nov 6, 2009 6:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
SHINYA AOKI IS ON THE STAGE
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Says he wants an offer from SF
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
For reals or jokes?
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
real
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:39 PM EST up reply actions
War!
Fedor
Miller
Mousasi
Silva
Oh, IT’S ON!!!
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Coenen 145 Modafferi 140
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Miller 171 Davis 170.5
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YES YES YES
SI_JoshGross
Shinya Aoki introduced as special guest. Says he looks forward to fighting in the U.S. Coker told me Friday that he will get Aoki in SF.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Aoki said he's looking for an offer from SF while on stage
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
Hmm the only reason I can see him doing a public negotiation like this is to send Dream a message, or perhaps he is unhappy with them.
He might be leveraging more money like what Gomi did.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 6, 2009 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
call out ufc lw's then go to sf....
by cagefightonacid on Nov 6, 2009 7:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Curran is telling neace to get to 146
Via Brookhouse twitter
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Curran 145 Neace 150
NEACE OVERWEIGHT
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John Kolosci 171 Shamar Bailey 170
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His left eye looks strange, maybe just the photo, but he has a mouse under it too, so I am curious about that.
whoa fedor...
those donuts were for everyone
by cagefightonacid on Nov 6, 2009 7:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Generally?
Like, someone is going to jump off a balcony?
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L. Taylor 185.5 N. Moore 184
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The MMA gods demand a sacrifice of a dominant champion. This will balance out the bad karma from the Machida/Shogun fight.
Keep firing Assholes!
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by Ubernoober on Nov 6, 2009 6:49 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Uflacker 156 Novaes 155.5
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I want that jacket
I also want Aoki’s grappling skills. I doubt I’ll get either one.
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
photos on the way.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 6, 2009 8:41 PM EST reply actions
anyone else think bas talking to moe
looks like a father explaining to his son why he is indefinitely being spanked ?
"he's the best punchy face man in the buisness"
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