Dana White: I Guarantee Dan Henderson Has Been Signed by Strikeforce
As always, Kevin Iole has what Dana White wants us to hear:
White said Wednesday, "I guarantee you 1,000 percent that Dan Henderson is signed by Strikeforce."
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"Honestly, I got a call from Dan's management a couple of days ago telling me Dan had turned down the UFC's offer," Coker said. "I guess the UFC made an offer and put a deadline on it. They turned it down and were calling to talk to me, but I told him I have this huge fight and there's a tremendous amount going on and I couldn't really deal with it at this point."
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White said he wanted to re-sign Henderson, but not at the price Henderson proposed. Henderson had been in the mix to fight UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva. White said he had no hard feelings toward Henderson.
"Dan and I have been friends and we will continue to be friends, but it just didn’t work out and he went to Strikeforce," White said.
Coker conceded he’d love to have Henderson under contract, but said White’s information is incorrect.
This is an interesting counter-point to the argument made in a BE diary that Dan Henderson was sitting in the catbird seat:
All of the turmoil leaves Henderson sitting pretty. He is waiting at home for the UFC to call. And if guys keep dropping like flies, they will have no choice but to give in to his demands. Henderson has the added bonus of being able to fight in two weight classes competitively. If you need to slot him in, for the right price, he is good to go.
But as I wrote a while back, Dana White is doing everything but wrapping a bow on Dan Henderson, setting him on fire and ringing Scott Coker's doorbell:
Hendo's not going to get the kind of guaranteed pay day he wants from the UFC and I doubt Strikeforce will want to pay him half a million dollars guaranteed either. He's got some value to Strikeforce as someone who could headline a Showtime against the winner of Mayhem Miller/Jake Shields or maybe against Gegard Mousasi. Maybe he could even fight Frank Shamrock or Cung Le in a match that would be booked for its promotional rather than competitive value. But I don't see that being worth $500,000 up front guaranteed to Strikeforce.
If Dan Henderson wants to start a bidding war for his services, Dana White has given notice that he won't be one of the competitors.
Dana White is clearly hoping that Scott Coker will be baited into paying huge money for Dan Henderson, much as Affliction paid a fortune for Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski and he's willing to push the story in the media.
Here's a news flash for any budding media analysts out there -- if Strikeforce signs Dan Henderson, the news will come from Scott Coker or Dan Henderson, not Dana White.
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This is all retarted and making my head hurt (the beers, too).
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 5, 2009 8:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t we just have this conversation somewhere else?
by nottheface on Nov 5, 2009 10:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Handerson is like a girl who's expiration date is close.
If you know what I mean. He is still good but sooner or later the wheels will fall off.
by cyrusking on Nov 5, 2009 8:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope he decides to stay in the UFC, only because I want to see him fight Silva again.
by JeremyShane on Nov 5, 2009 8:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How awesome would it be I’d he beats mousasi for lhw belt and then beats winner of shields/ mayhem for the mw belt…
by kanodogg on Nov 5, 2009 8:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Other than being the death of Strikeforce, it’d be awesome.
by argyle on Nov 5, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like Dan the man
but he wants $500k per fight? That’s like Lesnar money.
by cyrusking on Nov 5, 2009 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Actually that’s about 20% of Brock money.
by ufc4 on Nov 5, 2009 11:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the hangup with the UFC wasn’t the guaranteed per-fight salary, it was that he wanted a 1 million dollar signing bonus.
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by Beer Monster on Nov 5, 2009 8:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
There's no way I believe he has signed with SF...
.. Nate hit it on the head at the end of the post. This signing would be the biggest in Strikeforce history, sans Fedor of course. There would be a big press release and conference if this were the case.
I think Dan should be making $200-$300k per fight, tops. If he becomes a UFC champion, then he could ask for more.
by TDITZ on Nov 5, 2009 9:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
hmm half a mil a fight? come on dan im on your side here but thats a bit much to be a base pay. He should have went the way of asking for 500k base and worked his way down to 400k or even what he was paid for at ufc 100 (350k i think it was)
by Riley_96 on Nov 5, 2009 9:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The only fight that makes sense is Gegard Mousasi for the belt and I hope the first and only fight is Gegard Mousasi for the belt.
by buttters on Nov 5, 2009 9:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And since Gegard isn’t what you would call ambitious, he has already said he wouldn’t fight Dan because he doesn’t get paid enough.
by Razzel on Nov 5, 2009 9:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t say that he wouldn’t fight Dan. He only said that if he could choose, he would prefer to fight lesser guys than Dan (having the same salary, but far greater risk of losing).
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by mikser on Nov 5, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Translation is, pay me some more $ if you want me to fight Dan. Isn’t gegard an m1 fighter… I’d think they were all pretty well taken care of. His pay on the babalu fight was listed as only $5k that can’t be all he got
by kanodogg on Nov 6, 2009 1:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
When Helwani said 2k….Gegard just giggled a bit so he prob got way more.
by Dav11 on Nov 6, 2009 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Read his latest interview (with MMA Fanhouse). He said he WOULD fight Dan. And that he will ask for more money only AFTER his current contract is fulfilled.
He was only being very honest before (that in case the fight having the same pay, he would prefer fighting lesser fighters). That’s just natural, although not very common thing to say among fighters, because everybody expect that a fighter should have a huuuuge ego and be willing to say that he is the best in the world and that he is ready to fight anybody anytime. I guess this doesn’t work with Fedor and Mousasi. :)
Oh, come on! You should know better (that this is a very common way to organize things, so the fighter wouldn’t have to pay taxes in the USA and be under double-taxation)!
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by mikser on Nov 6, 2009 6:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The taxes reason in complete horse shit.
There are 1 million reasons for the number on the AC report and the number int he bank account to be different, taxes is probably reason number 999,999
by Phildo on Nov 6, 2009 7:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me three or five better reasons than taxes.
And just a few titbits for you, my friend:
1. When asked “Did you really get only a few $k for that fight?” in the interview, he smiled, said “no” and didn’t want to discuss the issue further.
2. When Freddie Roach trained Manny Pacquiao for his last fight, he has to do it outside of US, because of the tax issues. Tax-minimization is a very common thing.
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by mikser on Nov 6, 2009 8:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Who cares
Seriously, besides the small online community, nobody knows who Dan Henderson is. Without the UFC brand he is not half the draw he should be. It’s a shame, but it is the truth.
by fozo on Nov 5, 2009 9:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
well
let’s see, there is the audience of the TUF season he coached. roughly 1 million.
the audience that watched him KTFO Bisping at UFC 100 — over 1 million.
the audience that watched him fight Rampage at UFC 75, over 2 million (plus reruns, maybe another 2 million).
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by Kid Nate on Nov 5, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
don’t forget, there were 1.6 million buys of UFC 100, that’s not nearly the total viewership plus the re-air
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 5, 2009 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To Nate:
Those numbers are great, but they speak more of the UFC’s brand recognition than Henderson’s ability to draw. I think UFC 82, the only PPV UFC fight he has headlined, shows us what type of draw he is.
Henderson is great, and he is a draw to a slight extent due to his stint on TUF and the KO over Bisping. But the UFC knows how much he draws and decided it wasn’t worth his price. That should be a big indication on what type of draw he is. If he was a draw like the rest of the big players on the UFC roster, he would get paid.
by fozo on Nov 5, 2009 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree about Henderson not being a huge draw, but
I was simply refuting your point about only the “small online community” knowing who Henderson is.
One further point — 90% of the key MMA demographic in the US — males from 18-34 is online. so the online community isn’t small.
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by Kid Nate on Nov 6, 2009 8:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
" males from 18-34 is online."
And they are all on ESPN online, CollegeHumor and Porn sites…what was the point again?
by Razreshat on Nov 6, 2009 10:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think we’re underrating Dan Henderson’s popularity. That Bisping knockout at UFC 100 is talked about a lot among my non-hardcore fan friends.
by FarrisD on Nov 5, 2009 9:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
But...
it was one punch, and almost 6 months ago. Dan’s won a lot of great fights, but is he a headliner? I think Dana is playing this right. Go find out what Strikeforce’s offer is, Dan, and Dana’s offer will look pretty good in comparison.
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by duck on Nov 5, 2009 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If he wins one or both titles
It works out great for the UFC. Unless he took a paycut to go to Strikeforce he won’t generate the revenue for Strikeforce to offset putting them in a tighter financial bind. Then the UFC can say that their champion was a guy that lost title fights in both divisions making it appear as less of an accomplishment.
by swells2048 on Nov 5, 2009 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Meh. I’m at the point where I don’t care anymore. Wake me up when Dan is in a cage again. Any cage. Until then, there’s really no point in this back and forth. Dana is gonna talk his shit, and Coker is probably too stressed out at this point to deal with anything more than Saturday’s show.
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by pud333 on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
gegard is fighting soukogou right?
What a joke, hendo vs gegard is a good fight. I would rather see that than nate vs hendo.hendo should do a one fight deal with strikeforce(they will be out of business soon anyway) beat gegard and then re sign with ufc to try to unify belt and get a title shot right away.
by mid.vill.queens on Nov 5, 2009 9:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
except mousasi has a legit chance of beating the aging henderson and reinforcing strikeforces image of having competitive fighters
by pandaboy99 on Nov 5, 2009 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Nate and Mousasi would beat Hendo. He’s a legend and deserves respect but he’s pushing 40.
by bleve_ on Nov 5, 2009 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mousasi would beat Hendo I think. Same with Marquardt. Hendo’s glory days were in Pride. He KO’d Bisping because the guy had an idiot game plan and he was overrated. Hendo could give any top contender trouble, but ultimately, I don’t think he’ll ever hold the belt again.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dana is definitely looking at Henderson as a poison pill. In the UFC all he was doing was tying up the top of the MW division. In Strikeforce he can derail their champs or top contenders while siphoning away money that could be used to pay their up and comers to keep them away from the UFC.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Nov 5, 2009 10:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
^ This
He is basically hoping that Strikeforce makes the same mistake with Hendo that Affliction made with Arlovski and Sylvia.
by Steve4192 on Nov 6, 2009 7:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
….and Lindland, and Rothwell, and…..
by ufc4 on Nov 6, 2009 8:54 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. There’s probably no way SF can match the UFC offer, and they’be stupid to pay him as such. Coker has been a pretty good business man thus far. The only way SF can get Hendo is if Hendo reduces his asking price. But that’s the whole sticking point to begin with. He thinks he’s worth more; the UFC doesn’t. We’ll see soon if Hendo wants to be a big fish in a small pond, getting paid less, or a medium fish in a big pond getting paid more, but not what he originally wanted.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Henderson is better off in strikeforce.. why play 2nd place to silva the rest of his career when he can retire champion
by pandaboy99 on Nov 5, 2009 10:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
champion of what??? strikeforce? LOL
him retiring as a strikeforce champion means nothing.
by DRExLOC on Nov 5, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I’d have to agree with that. For a guy like Hendo who was at the top of his game in Pride, which was the default biggest promotion until its downfall, going to the UFC, then to SF would be a totall step down. I’m pretty sure Hendo will end up back in the UFC. SF will never be able to match the UFC offer, let alone match Hendo’s demands, and I think Hendo also has a strong sense of pride. The SF belt would mean nothing.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even if Dan does sign with Strikeforce, it’s a good thing for the UFC.
Dan is not a huge draw, but he is a great fighter, if he can earn money from Strikeforce it is a win-win for everyone. Plus Hendo Vs Mousasi would be a great fight, so I am all for it.
by DirtyML on Nov 5, 2009 11:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dana White: I Guarantee Dan Henderson Has Been Signed by Strikeforce
Is Dana and mmalogic the same person? Good Lord, please say it aint so!
Mike Goldberg: "You know Joe, When Matt and his brother Mark Hughes were growing up, they would pound each other behind the barn."
by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 12:31 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
He also doesn’t have as bad a potty mouth.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whats Dan gonna do in Strikeforce? Only Mousasi poses any challenge and if if beats him then who do they have left that can beat him? He’d be champion of the 185lbs and the 205lbs strikeforce nobudies and ufc flunkies. There would be no challenge for him after Mousasi(whom of which Dan would beat, like it or not he would grind out a decision). He would dominate a bunch of bums.
by Joselana on Nov 6, 2009 1:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
pfft
Jacare, Babalu, Feijaou, even Mayhem are all good fights for Dan. He’d likely win most, but Babalu and Feijao could be real trouble for him.
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by Kid Nate on Nov 6, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
and Mousasi might kill him.
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by Kid Nate on Nov 6, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure he would too.
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by pud333 on Nov 6, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
please. Dan has been in fights with guys that have been better than him and still won. He has enough experiance to come up with a game plan good enough to beat Mousasi to a decision.
by Joselana on Nov 6, 2009 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hope Hendo knows what he's doing
If he goes to Strikeforce for a big pay day, and Mousasi tools him like Fedor did to Sylvia, it’ll be his last big pay day.
by Pantherhare on Nov 6, 2009 2:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Only if he gets a 1 fight contract, which I don’t see happening. Besides, you know Henderson turns 40 next year, right?
by David_ on Nov 6, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can we have Marquardt vs. Silva now? Kthxbai
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by J. B. Maddox on Nov 6, 2009 9:44 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes please. Rush order.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 6, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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