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CBS Commercial Ads Sold-Out for Strikeforce Fedor vs Rogers, Plus Targetting Markets and Sponsors (EA Sports, etc)

 

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Well, its seems like it wasn't that long ago that everyone was worried about how good of a job Strikeforce, CBS, and Showtime were going to do to sell/market this event on network TV.  As with anything that Strikeforce does, they never over exert themselves and their costs, and they seem to do just enough to make their events a success.  Now that we are a few days away, here are some of the more interesting stories leading up to the event.

 

CBS Commercial Ads Sold-Out For Strikeforce Fedor vs Rogers

Fight Camp 360 on Showtime/CBS, ESPN, USA Today, and Chicago Sun-Times to just name a few, Strikeforce and CBS finally seem to be hitting their promotional stride for this event.  One of the important aspects of Saturday's event will be how the ratings do, but more importantly for CBS is what kind of advertisers they have acquired by putting MMA on prime time network again.  First, lets look at how CBS is doing compared to other networks in regards to ad sales and revenue.

First, MMAPayout digs a great piece from BusinessWeek.com, which reports that CBS will bring more advertising dollars than any of the other big four networks in 2009:

Everywhere you look these days, network TV executives seem to be shredding their playbooks and experimenting with their programming. The prevailing sentiment seems to be: We’ll do whatever it takes to cut costs and keep viewers tuning in. Exhibit A: Jay Leno, who has stepped out from behind his late-night desk to yuck it up on NBC during prime time.

Then there’s CBS, where it’s same old, same old. Yes, the Tiffany Network has added a Los Angeles spin-off to its military crime show NCIS, and launched The Good Wife, a ripped-from-the-headlines drama about the lawyer wife of a philandering politician. But mostly CBS is relying on sitcoms and police procedurals–the very definition of Old Media.

How is that working out for CBS? Pretty well, it seems. Three weeks into the fall season, it’s on a roll. With 12 shows in Nielsen’s top 20, including the top-rated comedy, Two and a Half Men, and its most popular drama, NCIS, CBS draws an average of 12.4 million prime-time viewers, 2.4 million more than runner-up ABC. Meanwhile, the stock has been handily outperforming those of its peers. “They’ve proven anyone wrong who thought that no matter what a network did, their audiences would continue to erode,” says Andrew Donchin, who works for the media buying agency Carat North America and helps buy ad time on CBS for such companies as Pfizer, Black & Decker, and Papa John’s International.

 

Here is how they stack up:

GROSS AD REVENUES

(BILLIONS)*

CBS $4.7

NBC 4.6

ABC 3.8

Fox 2.8

*2009 estimate

Data: SNL Kagan

 

In terms of MMA and in anticipation for the upcoming Strikeforce event, CBS executive vice president for primetime programming Kelly Kahl previously had this to say about Fedor's ability to boost credibility among sponsors:

"I think (Fedor) made it a lot easier for our sales guys and our sales are going very, very well for this fight," said Kahl. "To be able walk in with a presentation and show Fedor shows a credibility and it speaks volumes to have a world-class fighter and maybe the best in the world. I think it certainly made it an easier sell than maybe we’ve had in the past."

Kahl said movies studios, automobile purveyors, and video game companies are among those that have bought commercial slots.

"EA Sports is unveiling a preview of their MMA game in this fight exclusively," said Kahl. "In terms of getting mainstream sports reporters interested, Fedor gives us the credibility that maybe we didn’t have before.

 

 

Now, Sherdog reports that all CBS commercial Ad spots are sold out for this event.

Commercial spots for CBS’s Saturday Night Fights broadcast of Strikeforce/M-1 Global "Fedor vs. Rogers" have completely sold out, according to Kelly Kahl, executive vice president for primetime programming for the network.

"I’d say this was probably a quicker sellout than the EliteXC shows," said Kahl, who added that the addition of top-ranked heavyweight Fedor Emelianenko has piqued interest in "premium advertisers" from the auto, movies, and video gaming genres.

Aside from ratings, advertising sales are a second way that networks can gauge interest in its programming. Kahl said that other sporting events on CBS usually complete their advertising sales a day or two before air date if that.

Among those scheduled around the live broadcast, EA Sports will unveil a preview of its MMA game due out in 2010.

 

If you can recall, CBS did a great job selling ads for the first EliteXC event on CBS.   On the other hand, they had a tough time selling ad spots for their next two events.  One reason is that the second event didn't have Kimbo or Gina Carano, but most importantly, the bad economy was starting to take a toll on the networks.  This is another good sign for CBS and Strikeforce.  A rating greater than 2.0 and about 4-5 million people would be a home run for CBS.

 

More stories after the jump...

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Strikeforce/CBS's Marketing Brings In...My Mom?

Here is a pretty interesting story from Tony Preston over at BleacherReport:

Today, I had a great conversation about MMA with my mom.  I thought I would never have a conversation with my mom about MMA.  She knows that I have watched MMA since high school and since I got to college have been doing a little training, but we never really talk about it.  She knows that it is called Mixed Martial Arts and that the UFC is just one promotion but that is about it.

Today, I had just gotten back to my dorm after class when I got a call from my mom.  She was watching CBS and had just seen a commercial for the Strikeforce card this weekend.  She asked me my opinion on Fedor and if I thought he was the best in the world.  This lead into me telling her about Brett Rogers and the other fights on the card.

At the end of the conversation she said that she would probably watch at least a few of the fights on Saturday just to check it out.  This surprised me and I asked why.  She said that it must be decent if it is on CBS.

 

HDNet To Televise Strikeforce Weigh Ins Via IMMA

 

 

"Big" John McCarthy Joins EA Sports MMA

One of Strikeforce's biggest sponsor, EA Sports MMA, will not only be releasing new video game footage of their MMA title next year, but they are also announcing that MMA great Big John will be in their video game.  Not official yet, but I have also heard that Jake Shields will be in the game as well.  Nick "The Goat" Thompson will also be announced in the near future as a participant in the game, along with Matt Lindland and other Strikeforce and Bellator fighters.  The exclusive video footage will also be made available in Japan, which will go along with EA's theme of making EA  Sports MMA a world wide title.

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Video: http://mma.easports.com/home.action

 

 

Strikeforce on Tape Delay? Orlando Station Responds to Fan Outrage

Steve Cofield over at Yahoo write up this piece about how UG members were able to get their CBS affiliate network to show Strikeforce Fedor vs Rogers LIVE instead of being delayed until 1AM.  Great stuff from the UG and MMA fans.

Power to the people! According to a thread on the Underground Forum, WKMG, the CBS affiliate in Orlando, had originally planned to show this Saturday's Strikeforce mixed martial arts show on a tape-delayed basis at 1:35 a.m. on Sunday morning. In the MMA show's place was going to be "Legend of the Seeker."

After voicing their displeasure, some UG readers received emails this morning, from the station's General Manager Skip Valet, again stating that the fight card could be seen on Sunday morning or live at CBS.com. Then mysteriously a switch was made:

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Cagewriter spoke with Valet who said CBS made a late change in available programming and the station was unaware of the opportunity to show the fight card live.

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WTF is Legend of the Seeker and why would they delay a big event like this to show it?

by ufc4 on Nov 4, 2009 10:44 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

In Washington State (and from what I read other places on the West Coast) the two EliteXC CBS cards were delayed and I know here it was shown at midnight local time…

and according to my guide, this weekend it’ll be shown on 3 hour delay, News, Entertainment Tonight and NCIS are on when it should be on live…

when I e-mailed the local CBS in the past about EXC the response I got was basically that “no one” knows what EliteXC is and that they put it on delay for ratings which I assume was the News and CIS whatever….

I’de rather see it live, but with it delayed I get to watch all of college football on Saturday and then can turn off my other TV’s and just watch Strikeforce without having other games on…

I don’t like it at all but I guess I can see why its delayed, it’s not like this is the NFL, UFC, College Basketball, etc…

by Reaser16 on Nov 4, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, once it starts at 9PM in the west coast, all college football games should be over. They also want to keep the 9-11 PM spot to get ratings at that time on the west coast. As seen before, if enough people complain, they will do something about it though.

Madison, Wisconsin is another market where I think they are delaying the fights. Good to see MMA fans taking action and making MMA seem like a legit sport and event.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 4, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

that’s what I said, college football will be over (except Colorado State-UNLV and Fresno St-Idaho but I can DVR those to watch after SF)…

and you can come up with all the excuses you want as to why 9pm is a better timeslot, or will get better ratings but live is always better, what about the sports fans watching ABC, ESPN, ESPNEWS, ESPN2, ESPNU, watching football or highlights of football waiting for SF to come on and then on the ticker on all those channels its scrolling “Fedor beats Rogers in the first round”…that’ll be brilliant, seeing results of a fight that should be live (or course I can avoid results but I’ll be watching football until SF starts, and all the casual fans see that then why would they watch SF if they already know the results?)

and as seen before, ha, because it happened in a few places, I’ve complained about EliteXC and nothing happened…

by Reaser16 on Nov 5, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Live is always better. If we keep complaining, they will do something about it.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 1:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

A very well done fantasy series based off of the “Sword of Justice” book series by Terry Goodkind, produced by Sam Raimi and staring lovable Ozsploitation icon Bruce Spence.

This is more of the case of the programmer using a syndicated show for an obstacle and pleading that he’s “standing up for the fans” when really most of them are DVRing the show because they’re at work. He’ll be doing a favor for fans byactually putting the show on at midnight.

"Respond intelligently even to unintelligent treatment."

-Lao Tzu

by RoyalB on Nov 4, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Sword of Truth…

A man should never waste an opportunity to keep his mouth shut.

by iiowyn on Nov 5, 2009 8:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can someone clear things up for me?

Im in san francisco now, so that means i will be able to watch Fedor at 9pm meaning it’s gonna be on a 3 hour delay??

If so, That’s a big fucking bummer because i won’t be able to join the liveblog or login to the internet for that matter..

PS
Sup (see i didn’t call you by your real name haha), did you hear that Big John will be on the game too? I read that somewhere, im just too lazy to search for it.. :)

by Anton Tabuena on Nov 4, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, we in the west coast end up getting things on a 3 hour delay, that is if you have a cable provider. If you have DishNetwork or Direct TV, I believe you will get it live.

Hahaha…yeah, its on my post. You should check it out.
=)

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 4, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

why make stuff up?

you know with DirecTV that you get local network channels right??

so you get local ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc from where you live (or like me in Olympia, WA I get Seattle, WA channels, Q13, KIRO7, etc)…its not like cable channels where I get to see shows 3 hours before my friends do because they aren’t delayed for me because I’m not getting local SPIKE TV, TNT, etc…

so those of us with DirecTV will still be getting it on 3 hour delay….

bush league

by Reaser16 on Nov 5, 2009 12:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? It’s been a while since I had Direct TV, but I remember they offered CBS East and CBS West. Is that not the case anymore?

Look at their TV Guide:

CBS HD (East)
CBS HD (West)
Cinemax HD East
Cinemax HD West

So yes, you would be able to see it live.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 1:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It probably just depends what markets you live in.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 1:26 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve had directv since they offered NFL Sunday Ticket, had it in Phoenix, AZ, Vegas, Portland, OR and multiple places in Washington State…all have been the same…

it’s different for movie channels, I get HBOe HD and HBOw HD, etc…

for networks and local channels they have multiple CBS’s and FOX’s, etc listed in the guide, but you don’t get them…on the guide i have CBS LA, CBS NY, CBSw HD, CBSe HD….only time they’ve ever worked is one year during the NBA Finals the Seattle ABC channel had some problems and was blank screen and message popped up immediately saying turn to ABCe and you will get that channel until your local network is back on air…

So DirecTV you don’t automatically get those channels, and I have every channel package you can have (and every sports PPV and even foreign language packages just for soccer on those channels) and the only channels that don’t come in are the extra ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX’s…

from what I’ve read, if you don’t live in or near a major city (aka no local networks) you get access to all of them, this is what the website says;

“Subscribers located where they cannot receive a decent terrestrial television signal and/or live in a tiny market that only has a couple of stations can receive feeds from New York and Los Angeles for CBS, ABC, NBC, and Fox, as well as a feed from the Washington, DC CW affiliate”

so bascially if you don’t have a local CW then you get Washington DC’s, if you don’t have a local FOX you get LA and NY’s…etc…I live in the capital of Washington State, we get local Seattle channels…on which SF will be delayed by 3 hours, just like it would be if I still lived in Phoenix, AZ or Portland, OR…

by Reaser16 on Nov 5, 2009 2:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting. Haven’t had DirectTV in 5 years, so I am not sure why I was getting New York feeds in the west coast. Maybe because we got shitty terrestrial signals.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 2:13 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

possibly, I’ve had it for however long, seems like forever…and I check those extra channels a few times a year (to see something earlier or if I forgot to DVR something) and they never come in, then I called trying to order them a few years ago and they said i couldn’t do that, and obviously like the quote above, I found that that’s the reason they are listed, for people out of range or whatever…

by Reaser16 on Nov 5, 2009 2:17 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

reaser is correct. no matter the package, you have to be well outside of a major area to get the cbs(e) or cbs(w) feeds. the cable stations like usa, spiketv show their feeds on east coast time. some channels like cartoon network make both (east and west) channels available.

by sadface on Nov 5, 2009 4:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

UPDATED

With CBS Ad Sales research from MMAPayout.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 2:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

you could embed the big john video..

people are either too lazy to click links, or they didn’t see the video link.

by Anton Tabuena on Nov 5, 2009 4:40 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Please teach me. Tried and failed.

by MMASuPreMaCy on Nov 5, 2009 5:55 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

ad space for elite xc’s show was also sold out… and 4-5m viewers is NOT A HOMERUN. specifically the rating for the target demo is just as important as total viewership. If CBS got 4-5m in the target demo then that would be considered very, very good.

Less than 5m viewers with the average demo breakdown would be a disappointment.

5.5 million viewers and if CBS could more than double the target demo rating in that time slot then that’s something you can work with…..

by mmalogic on Nov 5, 2009 6:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

for every story like the one where someones mom calls to mention they saw “the fedor commercial”, there are still people who are confused.

two guys i work with refer to anything mma as “ufc” even though i tried explaining the difference. one of my leads wont watch mma in the ring because he thinks its another sport. and another coworker heard about “the fight” this saturday but isnt going to, “purchase that ppv”.

by sadface on Nov 5, 2009 5:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions   1 recs


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