Quote of the Day: Nick Diaz Is the Rosa Parks of MMA
by Kid Nate on Dec 1, 2009 8:12 AM EST
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"I would hope he could stop (smoking marijuana)," he said. "I can't stop him. He's an adult man."
"What can you do, man?" Gracie said of the CSAC policy. "Rosa Parks wasn't supposed to ride in the front of the bus. She was supposed to be in the back of that bus.
"Nick is the Rosa Parks of MMA," he added with a laugh.
Cesar Gracie talking to MMA Weekly about the impact of the CSAC's ruling that marijuana will still be a forbidden substance even for fighters with a prescription.
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i have no problem with medicinal marijuana. but that comment is just plain fucking retarded and an insult to the civil rights movement, no matter the hyperbole employed.
I usually defend diaz on this subject, but really, that is just a very dumb thing to say.
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:04 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
I would think they should be happy they got to the point where CSAC would treat medical marijuana like other prescription drugs but just like many other prescription drugs they are still on the banned substance list regardless of if the fighter has a prescription or not.
by who me on Nov 30, 2009 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This
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Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
by thetakeover on Nov 30, 2009 11:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
I have nothing to add to what amadeus said.
Although detractors decry (MMA) as a brutal, bloody form of human cockfighting, aficionados know it is a brutal, bloody, totally fucking awesome form of human cockfighting. -The Onion
by The Kittitas Kid on Nov 30, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not diaz’s fault when CG says something stupid though.
10/24
by spectaa on Dec 1, 2009 4:16 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
To be honest I don’t see why it needs to be on the banned list. It is not a performance enhancing drug. I think the Olympics decided not to take away a medal from a snowboarder that had tested positive for it based on the same argument.
The one reason I will agree with is if there are higher risks for smokers in general in combat sports. Basing the ban mostly on the unknown over whether a fighter could die from something in the ring related to marijuana use. If they’re simply unwilling to risk it thats fine. Banning it simply because it is illegal to use for the general public just doesn’t seem like a good reason. Every drug other then OTC, cigarettes, and alcohol are illegal unless prescribed by a doctor.
I can only speculate a possible increased risk of some respiratory complications from taking body shots or air choke submission. The lungs are mostly covered by the ribs from blunt blows you’d take in MMA. I’ve heard crazy crap about people who smoke menthol cigarettes can have their lungs actually shatter in car accidents. Don’t think it is true but I have heard about it more then once.
by YoungGun on Dec 1, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not banned because it’s illegal, at least in CA.
That’s the point of the whole statement the CSAC put out. They don’t care that marijuana is legal with a prescription, it’s still on the banned list. Just like various other prescription drugs are on the banned list. Just like why the olympics ban certain OTC drugs and stuff.
being on the banned list doesn’t mean it’s illegal, it means you can’t use it if you want to fight in CA.
by Phildo on Dec 1, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that. I was stating my opinion of it being on the banned list in the first place. The purpose of the banned substance list for the majority is for performing enhancing drugs.
by YoungGun on Dec 1, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s about performance affecting not performance enhancing, lets not pretend that fighting stoned will have no effect on a fighter at all. Good or bad is irrelevant. Just like everything else on the list if its in your system it is assumed you are under its effects. Lots of fighters have to stop taking prescription medicine before fights so it will be completely out of their system.
by who me on Dec 1, 2009 2:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
You have a point, but I don’t think most fighters would fight while high (actually didn’t someone say they did a while back?). As for the health effects of smoking, i.e. respiratory, hell, Sakuraba smokes a pack of cigs a day.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think he’d fight high, more talking about the respiratory effects and just the prolonged effects of smoking pot. After a few years it just makes you feel like a physically and mentally slower form of yourself. You can barely understand what Diaz is saying half the time which half is probably how he always talked but I know a few lifer potheads that talk almost exactly like him after using for years.
by YoungGun on Dec 1, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have family members that it has utterly destroyed their minds and I know people who have been smoking for decades that aren’t any different at all. Everyone is different and the long term effects are going to be different too because it just doesn’t affect everyone the same (which pretty much goes for most drugs). I mean not everyone who smokes two packs a day of cigarettes gets cancer but that doesn’t mean that they are safe to use.
Nick’s in amazing physical condition but his head has never been screwed on very tight so that could just be Nick being Nick. I’m not going to guess about the effects on him but it does make me wonder that he can’t put it down for even a couple of weeks before a fight.
by who me on Dec 1, 2009 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The issue is that the test they use doesn’t test whether he is high or not it just test whether it’s still in his system (same as most of the other prescription drugs). An assumption is made that if it’s in your system it’s affecting your system still because that is just how they have to do things currently. I don’t think it is too much to ask for Diaz to just cut it out for a month or so before a fight just like all these other guys on prescription medicine have to do, fighting MMA is a privilege not a right just obey the rules and you won’t have any issues. Heck it’s not like they are telling him he can’t smoke pot just that he can’t have it in his system on fight night.
by who me on Dec 1, 2009 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t Cesar Gracie also test positive after his only fight too?
by who me on Nov 30, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
And with a bit of google work, yes he did:
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3704&zoneid=13
-March 10, 2006: Strikeforce; Cesar Gracie tested positive for Delta 9 THC (active ingredient in marijuana); suspended for 3 months
by who me on Nov 30, 2009 11:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think ingredient is the right word. It’s not like someone is making or cooking it, its natural
by stinkinburrows on Nov 30, 2009 11:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cesar Gracie is the “rosa parks’ jiujitsu coach” of mma
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For Diaz's irresponsibility and Gracie's comparison...
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 30, 2009 11:06 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 30, 2009 11:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
OH GOD!!! SEIZURE!!!
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit o_o
The fuck happened to it. Delete it now!!!
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 30, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was supposed to be
http://www.darrelldow.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/disapproval.jpg
but it ended up looking like something that Diaz would see during hotbox session.
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 30, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hotbox
Saves the day
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A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who -- Jay-Z
by thetakeover on Nov 30, 2009 11:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
erk erk erk erk erk erk erk
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Nov 30, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The ironic thing is
That god damn strobe light has to take up ten times the amount of bandwith as linking to the image would.
by ufc4 on Dec 1, 2009 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
not really. a flat gif with three colors and two frames? probably 1k
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
4k
But still, you’re probably right.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 1, 2009 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Umm, he added it with a laugh, perhaps implying that it was a ridiculous and absurd thing to say. Methinks people are taking that a little too seriously.
by Dooda on Nov 30, 2009 11:09 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
I think people understand that, it’s just that it was a very very silly thing to say for any reason.
by who me on Nov 30, 2009 11:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
exactly. But for those like me who sympathize with diaz’s use medically, this is just one of those statements that will make him look more like a pothead punk. There’s just no reason for the comparison. like what Deo said below
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No sympathy from me.
Call me a bad guy, but Diaz comes across as the just type to abuse the system to simply use the marijuana he wants to use anyways.
by Razreshat on Dec 1, 2009 8:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I get that it's a joke
It’s still a disrespectful comparison.
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 30, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just have a hard time getting upset about this.
by hlebtasic on Nov 30, 2009 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think anyone is "upset"
but for fans of nick diaz who already have a hard time defending him, it makes him and his trainers look like idiots, and its just pretty disrespectful
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not “upset”, as much as it’s just moronic to say. Even Cesar seemed to know it was dumb once it came out his mouth. It’s like when your friend says something dumb, and everyone just stares at him and calls him an idiot.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 30, 2009 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s along the lines of comparing Kalib Starnes with Ghandi.
by nottheface on Nov 30, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ghandi wouldn’t have ran like that.
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by KrmtDfrog on Nov 30, 2009 11:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ghandi was really good at cutting weight. Amazing dicipline.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Nov 30, 2009 11:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
aaaand he drank his pee
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, bunch of unnecessary commentary here about an obvious joke.
by nastyem on Nov 30, 2009 11:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i'm just taking out my anger of the pats loss. :( :(
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pats defense just isn’t gonna cut it against teams with good O like NO or IND.
by ufc4 on Nov 30, 2009 11:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's fucking ballistic down here.
I’m a mild Saints fan, but the diehards, those who supported the team through so many losing seasons, are losing their minds. If they win the Super Bowl, it’ll be chaos. If they do it undefeated, NO will be a disaster area from the incessant partying.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 30, 2009 11:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah considering the tragedy NO has experienced, i have no problem with the season they’re having, but that loss was crushing. I do, however, have Brees in fantasy to counterbalance my anger. Still, ufc4 is right you can’t get rid of a pro bowl DL before the first game and expect your D to step up in big games. Oh well, sorry for bringing us on this tangent
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right
Having Oakland’s #1 pick (in 2011 right?) will be nice but they are definitely missing Seymour, and might regret not re-signing Asante Samuel as well. The Saints are fun to watch, I’m rooting for Minnesota in the NFC (although I hate Favre) but won’t be disappointed if NO makes it to the Super Bowl ©, they deserve it.
by ufc4 on Nov 30, 2009 11:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want the Saints to win it all because I’m so damn tired of the foreplay. Every time they do well, they crap out in the opening of the playoffs anticlimactically. Even if they never amount to anything after this season, just once I want them to steamroll everyone else in the league to get our Super Bowl win.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 30, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
haha the foreplay. I’d like to see them win too, because noone on their team has gotten any respect from other teams. i love castoff teams, like the bengals too. A bengals/ saints SB would be the ultimate “noone believed in us” matchup
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think they should definitely make it to the NFC championship game, beating the Vikings is gonna take a lot. That should be a helluva game.
by ufc4 on Dec 1, 2009 12:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah that is a matchup and a half
is anyone else waiting for the other shoe to drop and favre to have a 10 int game? just to even out the season a bit?
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:04 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like it should happen at some point but I don’t think it will, it’s like everything he throws up his guys go and get. I think Delhomme and Cutler have enough INT’s for the rest of the NFC combined.
by ufc4 on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
goddamn delhomme. took all of steve smith's trade value away.
and cutler, well he’s just a pansy.
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t happen now that I’ve completely jumped on the Vikings’ bandwagon. Please don’t let them tear out my heart again.
by nottheface on Dec 1, 2009 12:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
YES
YESSSSSSSSSS.. I knew it would happen.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 1, 2009 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And it comes with a cost heavy cost as well: I’m not going to Hawaii for Christmas this year, I’m flying back to the Twin Cities. Fuck.
by nottheface on Dec 1, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Not gonna happen, thxkbye
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 1, 2009 1:50 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Falcons fan here
Matt Ryan? seriously? you my boy and all, but you need to cortizone that toe and go out against Philly this week.
And can the real Michael Turner please stand up?
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 2:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is the type of simile that makes sense if you’re stoned.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Nov 30, 2009 11:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god that was so un PC.... I have to be offended!!!
by Dropkick434 on Nov 30, 2009 11:38 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
My thoughts exactly.
It’s funny how people are allowed to make light of certain serious issues (like religion) and the second race is brought up everyone gets tighter than a drum. The comment was obviously tongue in cheek- who cares?
by BilboMcFonzie on Dec 1, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i generally agree that people are too uptight.
but still, its just a dumb comment. dumb dumb dumb analogy. Being the trainer of Diaz, who needs good publicity, he should learn to shut his mouth and not say inflammatory things.
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
for anyone interested, damacio page is about to kill marcos galvao on VS. repeat
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, sir
The epitome of getting KTFO
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Nov 30, 2009 11:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
seriously. he just holds galvao's head and t's off
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and the two shots on the ground were just...death
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Dec 1, 2009 12:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Only a pothead would present that defense
Duuuude . . . I got a prescription, it’s cool man.
by bignerd on Nov 30, 2009 11:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
astute observation.
because all people who smoke weed say duuuuuude all drawn out, and repeatedly say “its cool man.” everyone who smokes trees is like the kid in dazed and confused.
by amadeus on Nov 30, 2009 11:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Woah man, woah.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Dec 1, 2009 12:00 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
haha
chillllllllllllllll, brah. harshin my buzz
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Na man, don’t fret, I got this. I have a prescription, we’ll be eaten at the J-Box in 10 minutes.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
again though, marijuana has a ton of beneficial uses besides increasing your appetite and making music, movies, and everything generally a lot better.
it helps with a lot of mood disorders, a lot of incurable pain disorders, and various other ailments. To ignore its medical properties based on years of misinformation from the federal gov’t so they can waste billions of our taxes on officers chasing the “drug problem,” I think americans should be pissed. Noone has ever died from smoking weed.
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
people have said a lot of stupid shit because of it tho
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything you say is accurate, except the ,“No one has ever died from smoking weed.” Unless you put a filter on that joint you’re drawing more tar than cigarettes. If cigarettes kill people then it’s logical to deduce… But hey, pass it on.
I am blinded by a sea of green.
by bubbafat on Dec 1, 2009 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think (hope) the intended statement was “No one has ever died from a weed overdose”, which is correct.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 1, 2009 12:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup, nail on the head.
in terms of overdosing, marijuana is the one drug where you’re probably going to fall asleep before you can reach the toxicity level in one sitting
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i mean, the toxicity level is like a QP in a few hours to oneself. haha not even snoop and lil’ wayne could polish off a qp in a few hours
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve tried. I’ve failed. But I’ll listen to mac, and try and fail better. Ear.
I am blinded by a sea of green.
by bubbafat on Dec 1, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Volcano
All the positives, none of the negatives :)
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 2:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
My neighbor died from smoking pot. People do have allergic reactions to pot like people have allergic reactions eating walnuts. I also get the same allergic reaction.
No, I don’t think it should be a banned substance, but it’s not harmless. Alcohol isn’t harmless.
Anyways, the notion that Nick presented his prescription as his defense is laughable. Migraine medication is a banned sports substance and sports commissions drop the ban hammer on it all the time. Nick couldn’t figure this one out?
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Migraine meds are banned? That rules me out of pro sports…
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 1, 2009 12:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would rule you out of the Olympics, which coincidentally is the same test CSAC uses for it’s fighters. I doubt American professional sports have a ban on general inflammatory medication.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i mean, allergic reactions are a completely separate issues.
as was priorly stated, i meant noone has overdosed.
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True, never heard of anyone dieing of an overdose.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 12:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So weed is less dangerous than peanuts. Whoo?
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
by Ubernoober on Dec 1, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well depends on who you are
But peanuts are not a banned sports substance. In fact, promoters prefer to pay in peanuts when they can get away with it.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 1:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That is the dumbest shit I have ever heard
And ive said some dumb shit in my time
Stephen Quadros: Where do you see yourself in three years.
Quinton Jackson: Let's see, I'm 22 right now. In three years I see myself being 25.
by RealIrish on Dec 1, 2009 12:11 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I once answered in chemistry class that liquid nitrogen was a gas.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 1, 2009 12:14 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Niceee
Stephen Quadros: Where do you see yourself in three years.
Quinton Jackson: Let's see, I'm 22 right now. In three years I see myself being 25.
by RealIrish on Dec 1, 2009 3:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
My personal best:
Having a 45 minute heated argument about a complex math problem only to realize my stance was based on 2+3=6
Guillotine.
by iiowyn on Dec 2, 2009 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Negative, negative. I gotta stay lean and lightning and ready to fight." Capt. H.M. Murdock
by BadB on Dec 1, 2009 12:12 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna take a step back to offer my appreciation for BE
i’ve been through various websites, and this by far is the best for intelligent discussion and people making jokes without taking it too far. This discussion would become a lot more vitriolic on other websites.
by amadeus on Dec 1, 2009 12:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Seconded
Tis why I no longer post on CagePotato and FightLinker.
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Dec 1, 2009 12:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still read cagepotato, but the comment section is unreadable.
by hlebtasic on Dec 1, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
True that...
Cagepotato’s comment section is ridiculous. The Message Board however is pretty good as long as you’re not a jerkass troll.
"Death, so called, is a thing which makes men weep, And yet a third of life is passed in sleep."
- Lord Byron
by MyFightWiffaCheeto on Dec 1, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I still read CP
Ben is hilarious and insightful, but once I scroll down to the comments…FIRST!, Misogyny, etc.
"Shotguns? What, like guns that fire shots?"
@deowade
by Deo Wade on Dec 1, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely
I think some people are making this out to be worse than it is, but regardless of what I or anyone else thinks, the mix of civility and good humour is nice to see on the intertubez.
by kid_eh on Dec 1, 2009 1:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where's my twinkie?
I was gonna say something mean, but then I remember there were Twinkies…
by loydb on Dec 1, 2009 7:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does Nick Diaz have some kind of ailment or disease that would require him to use marijuana for medicinal purposes?
by lhasafi on Dec 1, 2009 1:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think he got the prescription because of ADD, but said that he doesn’t believe he has it or that it’s a real disorder or something like that.
by kid_eh on Dec 1, 2009 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I live in the Bay Area...
and the law is a joke. I have a friend who told a Dr. he had chronic arthritis so he needed weed to help the pain (he is a mechanic)…the doctor wrote down “stress relief” and said that was a better reason.
Point is, Diaz doesn’t have to have any kind of ailment. You can legally get a prescription with no hassle.
BOOSH
by Farthammer on Dec 1, 2009 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ok. So this falls in the same category as certain endurance athletes using – prescribed – asthma medication despite the fact that very few of them have asthma. In other words, there’s a loophole and they have the doctors to exploit it.
I’d be a lot less uncomfortable with the rosa-parks-of-mma analogy if Diaz really had some valid medical reason for his weed. Mind you, I’d still be rather uncomfortable.
by lhasafi on Dec 1, 2009 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well almost
Endurance runners are seeking a perceived competitive edge. This is just Nick’s favorite recreational activity. I could be wrong but don’t believe there is any fun in taking asthma medication, otherwise I’ve been taking the wrong shit.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 4:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm the Abe Lincoln of Air Hockey
Ask around.
"I’m sorry. I didn’t drink last night, so I’m not funny today."
-Sakuraba
by Blackout612 on Dec 1, 2009 1:52 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
lol
Just when I thought I could not like Machida any less....UFC 104
by beery_pbr on Dec 1, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Dec 1, 2009 2:18 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
My AP US History teacher used to give me this face
And then I would shut the fuck up.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 2:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Meh. I’m all for inappropriate humour. And for weed legalisation. Never smoked it myself, but live in Vancouver for awhile and you’ll see the point. Cops there have figured out its basically way more of a detriment to society to invest X amount trying to bloody fight the stuff, than just to let people spark up.
by TLow on Dec 1, 2009 2:30 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
America is just too immature to realize this obvious conclusion. I’m sure there are plenty of police departments that have unofficially adapted that attitude. Still to many politicians using drug wars as political footballs and still a large enough block of voters buying the shtick.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 5:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Weed should 100% be legalised
everything that is bad about alcohol doesn’t apply to weed. People smoking weed are more peaceful, friendly and laid back. And the government could make $$ on tax revenue.
I seriously don’t get it.
by rainmaker6 on Dec 1, 2009 9:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agree in general...
Except for depth perception… a couple bad stories…
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 9:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Bill Hicks:
You ever see two stoned guys get into a fight? “Hey buddy!” “What?” That’s it. That’s the end of the fight – probably forgot what they were going to fight about, anyway.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Dec 1, 2009 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Must rec the great man.
'He built his whole reputation as a waffle house chef. They’ve been serving him up ham and eggs with a side of canned tomatoes' - Don Frye on Fedor Emelianenko
by Well Read Idiot on Dec 2, 2009 7:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
C'MON GUYS.
He was obviously referencing the Outkast song.
“Ahh ahh, hush that fuss, everybody move to the back of the bus
Do you wanna bump and skrump with us?
We the type of people make the club get crunk”
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 2:49 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Awkward silence at the end of the interview.
10/24
by spectaa on Dec 1, 2009 4:13 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only one who doesn't know Rosa Parks?
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 1, 2009 4:42 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
In short, she was the catalyst to the black civil rights movement of the 1960’s by refusing to give up her seat to a white person on a bus.
Obviously an American history topic likely not taught outside American soil.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 5:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
ohhhhhh. that's her?
I think i’ve heard about that story somewhere before. haha.
by Anton Tabuena on Dec 1, 2009 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m french and we learn this at school actually, though I first heard about her on TV when I was young. This is probably taught in all European schools too, as part of civil rights history.
10/24
by spectaa on Dec 1, 2009 5:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear Europe covers American civil rights. Also heard it depends upon the country’s feelings towards America what stories get told. I remember reading one time Russian students all read Uncle Tom’s Cabin which depicts America’s exploitations but aren’t taught the other side of the coin.
by bignerd on Dec 1, 2009 5:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s another side?
"Like a ballet of violence clothed in fine Brazilian silk." ~ MMASuPreMaCy
by Benicio on Dec 1, 2009 6:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, being Polish I can’t confirm and that’s saying a lot considering that the country was, and to a certain degree continues to be as pro-American as you get in Europe(vide: support for intervention in Iraq, missile installations and the purported CIA jails for terrorists). Admittedly, 1st year of my high school education was English and the remainder an International Baccalaureate which isn’t quite the norm, but I consulted most of the curriculum with my contemporaries in Polish schools and there’s nada about it.
Oddly, I’ve picked up the topic of American Civil Rights Movement only through my flirt with American culture. As a history minor in UK I did a course partly covering the American Abolitionism and the inter-related Female Suffrage in US with a rather lengthy survey of Frederick Douglass memoirs, but my knowledge of these topics and American history in general is really fragmented…
Which brings me to the essence of my part-rant/part-CV, i.e. the need for a shared curriculum in all of EU and the sudden realization that this comment went quite astray.
by Toadie on Dec 1, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i had to look it up
Making the world a better place, one dirtbag at a time.
by CC11 on Dec 1, 2009 4:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
If you were born in the US and had to look up Rosa Parks, then your schools failed you.
The path to my fixed purpose is laid with iron rails, whereon my soul is grooved to run. Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering BROCKLESNAR; to the last I grapple with thee.
by judonerd on Dec 1, 2009 5:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was born in a really conservative, somewhat archaic town in rural Georgia. We were given the usual treatment of learning basically the same thing every year until 8th grade, and the history of American civil rights was definitely included. If they’re teaching that to us where I’m from, and others are unaware, then you gotta be fuckin kidding me
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Robert Downey Sr. on Dec 1, 2009 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I will take it one step further....
and say that Nick Diaz is the Mahatma Gandhi of MMA!
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
by Bandaka on Dec 1, 2009 9:36 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Because of his nonviolent boxing style?
10/24
by spectaa on Dec 1, 2009 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He is a grown man
Let him smoke if he wants to. If he gets caught and is thrown out, so be it, he knew the rules. Medicinal or not Marijuana is harmless to the body. Smoking (combustion) of it is another story.
You guys need to relax. The Rosa Parks reference was kinda..odd..though
by MSEMCEE on Dec 1, 2009 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I can see this ending up in the Supreme Court..... at least the CA Supreme Court....
How can one state say X drug is ok to use and another agency of the same state say you can’t use it? Aren’t fighters at the event usually 4 hours + before the event? Couldn’t someone from the athletic commission stay with Nick until the event starts to make sure he’s not CURRENTLY under the influence of weed? Seems like an ez fix to me.
by Dexerion on Dec 1, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The same way that a sports authority can ban you from taking any other prescription or over the counter drug.
The legality of the drug has nothing to do with the AC’s ability to regulate the sport.
by Phildo on Dec 1, 2009 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s no way it goes to court. The ability to make these determinations is well within the AC’s established regulatory powers. There’s simply no precident to counter it, and a ton of legal reasoning to support it. Doesn’t make it right, but to quote The Dancer Upstairs, “establishing the truth is only one part of practicing the law”.
"I'm AJB and I endorse this nut-puncher."
by AJB on Dec 1, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yea, and honestly, after reading the “but it’s legal” argument and thinking about it for the 7 millionth time, it being legal could actually help the CSAC if anyone tried to make a stink.
“Oh, it’s prescribed for pain, here’s a list of all the other pain subscriptions that are banned. O, ADD drug, here’s a list of those too.”
by Phildo on Dec 1, 2009 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, I don’t know why this is so hard for people to understand. Hell steroids are legal with a doctor’s prescription but they are still on the banned substance list, being legal/illegal is irrelevant, the list deals with substances that can affect fighter performance.
And why should Nick Diaz get special treatment? In what world would it be ok for a him to have a special athletic commission member follow him around before a fight to make sure he isn’t stoned? He’s not special and he isn’t getting treated any differently than anyone else in the sport, just stop smoking a month or so before a fight and there would be no issues at all.
by who me on Dec 1, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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