BloodyElbow.com Gets a Redesign
by Luke Thomas on Nov 3, 2009 10:02 AM EST
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As you may have noticed, things look a tad bit different around here this morning.
SBNation is constantly evolving and innovating to bring you - the sports fan and in our case, the MMA enthusiast - the best online experience possible. Part and parcel of that effort is creating the optimal design and layout for all of the SBNation blogs. All of us here at BloodyElbow.com are hugely supportive of SBNation and their tireless attempts to make our site and the rest of the SBNation family the top destination for sports fans looking to learn, share and communicate with one another.
So let us know what you think. If you have any feedback about the layout, please leave it in the comments. And let us know if detect any bugs or problems with the layout, but make sure to mention what kind of browser you're using, what version it is and so on.
And, of course, thank you for visiting BloodyElbow.com and supporting the SBNation.
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by Ubernoober on Nov 3, 2009 10:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I'm scared
but it looks the same from my phone
by cagefightonacid on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
What’s the difference other than that tab thing near the top?
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Nov 3, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
the background color on the left and right?
by MMAInFeRioRiTy on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's kinda bright
I’m going blind :P
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by orcus on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know. It looks odd.
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by Leland Roling on Nov 3, 2009 10:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, the new font on the headlines makes it slightly harder to read.
by ufc4 on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
that's what i was thinking
it’s a little… disjointed?
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by funnytiger on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
agreed sometimes it overlaps into the bloodyelbow logo in the top left. Also liked the dark background on the left and right if the foreground is going to stay the same. It all looks muted vs looking clean and professional, which seems to be what they were going for with this color theme.
by YoungGun on Nov 3, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It looks cluttered if you ask me. No borders makes it look like everything is thrown together. I liked having the colors, it worked well for the team sites. Left justifying the titles is a little weird.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 3, 2009 10:09 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
thats what i thought. i think it looks less professional… but then again i hate change, so skip over my opinion
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by MicahW on Nov 3, 2009 10:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
IMO it looks like a rookie blogger on some generic blog site using the default template. I know SBN want to become more of a news source and the all white is sort of a news paper look. but I liked it before.
by ryanwk628 on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree on the left justification,
but other than than that I like it!!
by bucco69 on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like how the “shadow guy” for people without an avatar is gone, replaced by the red star. and how that red star now is next to bloodyelbow.com when I look at it in my bookmarks list.
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by GregS123 on Nov 3, 2009 10:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
new font + red star
= wtf
do not like.
by virginiatech on Nov 3, 2009 10:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Minimalist look and a Red Star
is kind of soviet Russia if you ask me. Did Fedor have something to do with this?
by ryanwk628 on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
that's been obvious for years
hasn’t it?
I mean I’ve been critical of Commisar White many times. wait…
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by Kid Nate on Nov 3, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m using firefox and the picture that says Bloody Elbow in the top left of the page is not lining up right, it is covering up the page. Right now it’s sitting on top of the article so I can’t read the whole headline, and on the frontpage it’s covering up most of the “sections,” I can only see “technique”
The facebook share thing at the bottom of the page is also partially covering up the “add comment” link.
The site looks weird at first but I’m sure I’ll get used to it, if you need/want screenshots of what I’m seeing I can do that.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just looked at it on IE and I’m guessing the problem with that picture is because I use adblock and it’s blocking the banner at the top of the page, and it’s across all of sbnation. Maybe a fix would be making the box at the top of the page that says “Pound-for-Pound the Best in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) Commentary, News and Community” box bigger so that it will be the same size whether or not the individual browsers load the banner.
And the share on facebook link is not in the right place because I’m blocking the “retweet” link from popping up somehow. But there should be some sort of way to move it over.
Also, the spacing on the comments looks a little bit too crunched together. Before there was more space between the subject of a comment, the comment, and the bottom line that lists who wrote it and when, I think putting that space back would make things easier to read and look a little better.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The retweet thing is from “backtype.com.” Allowing that doesn’t seem to cause that much other annoyance on the page, so if anyone else is having that problem, that’s how to fix it.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 10:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I seem to be having problems with *******. (OMG, 2p2 reference!)
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by Mike Fagan on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
did you type pokerstrategy?
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by Lay 'n' Pray on Nov 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I've got the same problem
Mouse Gestures makes it go away…
by Shaun32887 on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m getting the same thing. I assume it because I am using Firefox with the NoScript and AdBlock add-ons.
by Steve4192 on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just an FYI, but appears that the NoScript add on was the problem, not AdBlock. I just turned off NoScript and everything seems to be lining up fine now.
Problem is, that makes me more worried, not less. I generally frown upon web sites bombarding my computer with scripts running in the background. That’s generally how your hardrive gets littered with adware, spyware, and trackers. Blocking them was the primary reason I switched to Firefox.
by Steve4192 on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, they fixed it. I didn’t change anything and it looks good for me.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would be great if there was an option to change layouts in Edit Settings for the people that preferred the old one.
by Nick Thomas on Nov 3, 2009 10:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
ok it seems like there is no spacing on comments
there should be a paragraph break here
and another one here
testing
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by GregS123 on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
no good!
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by GregS123 on Nov 3, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah empty carriage returns are being ignored.
This line should not touch the above line.
by Nick Thomas on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So much for that idea.
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The lack of white space in posts is going to get really annoying.
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by Steve4192 on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It appears to be fixed.
Unless there is no space between these two lines.
by Steve4192 on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
fixed, retroactively too! ahh behold the power of css
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by GregS123 on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
People always hate redesigns
But two weeks from now, no one will even remember what the old design looked like.
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by thetakeover on Nov 3, 2009 10:43 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nooooooooooooo
That’s uncalled for man.
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by Deo Wade on Nov 3, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
On the inside pages the menu shifts about 10-15px to the right.
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by funnytiger on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Keep the feedback coming
All of the feedback is going to help SBNation get the redesign right. Keep in mind: this is not the final design. This is a work in progress, so your input at this stage is really valuable.
by Luke Thomas on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
That’s some fast fixing, everything lines up and there is more spacing on the comments, cool.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Will the upcoming fight schedule that used to be on the left side be coming back? I noticed its been gone for a while.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks better
Much cleaner without all that background noise.
by dv8shun on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Not an actual layout problem, but if I’m being a critic here there is lots of whitespace on the right at the bottom of a long comments section, and on both sides of the page at the bottom of the front page. I believe that before the side bars did not have a white background (or they were at least shaded). Maybe adding some shading or some colors to the sidebars would make it look better.
by Phildo on Nov 3, 2009 11:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it either
But yeh i’ll probably get used to it.
The font is weird and left justifying the titles is weird as well.
by rainmaker6 on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit I’m a little disappointed that nobody consulted with me about this first.
by ufc4 on Nov 3, 2009 11:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I tried to but it turns out I can’t yell loud enough.
I dislike Matt Hughes. Shogun beat him like a dirty horse.
by MonkeyCHops on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s definitely easier to read SB sites now.
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by 49er16 on Nov 3, 2009 11:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is like facebook updates. We’ll all bitch and moan for a week, then forget what the old one was like. Repeat in several months.
by pdl on Nov 3, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I do not like. And this is my daily MMA fix
Whats up with the giant font? Are we kids or seniors that we need font that big?
by J_Maddux on Nov 3, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s not bad, though it reminds me of the super old look of Bloody Elbow a few years back (before you guys got gobbled up by SB Nation).
But in any case, I usually grab the articles from my reader and don’t visit the site unless I need to comment anyway(which has been rare lately), so s’all good.
by Gong on Nov 3, 2009 12:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like the font (some of us are old people) but man there is a crazy amount of wasted space (probably a side effect of the font change). There appears to be alot of white space between posts, so much so that it’s distracting.
by pr0cs on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Speaking as a web programmer
I definitely think it looks less professional than the previous design. Individual sections don’t visually pop as much as they used to, so the open layout with all same colored background and text can be a bit visually confusing at times. That’s compounded by the fact that there are a couple minor formatting problems in Firefox causing things to not appear where they should be.
Plus, I don’t know if this is just coincidence, but I encountered a scripting error the first time I tried to load the site today which caused the page to time out, which I believe was caused by an advertiser script.
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by CasualMMAFan on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The site loads perfectly fine on Safari 4.
I kind of like the new font, the only problem I think that needs to be addressed is filling in the gaps of white space.
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by Robert Downey Sr. on Nov 3, 2009 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Just tape some contruction paper over your computer screen, that’s what I did and it seems to work.
by ufc4 on Nov 3, 2009 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks...
Weirdo.
I’ll get used to it, I thought it was a glitch at first.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You know what, now that I’ve seen it more I think I like it. Reminds me of mmafanhouse now.
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I like it.
Easier for me to read this version.
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by Sergio Non on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
New logo next?
The site looks clean but the logo looks kinda out of place.
/flameshield?
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by xFenixKnightx on Nov 3, 2009 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I liked the old look better. It had a much more substantive feel. This design is too airy and light. Not sure why SBNation had to go and change it up.
I use Firefox and the logo isn’t lining up for me, either.
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by a tommy point on Nov 3, 2009 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Too much white.
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by Original Six on Nov 3, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just think it looks less professional. It looks very thrown together and there is way too much white.
by Rabbit915 on Nov 3, 2009 2:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Less professional, I agree.
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by a tommy point on Nov 3, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Way to bright. It’s bad enough that I won’t spend any where near as much time here until it’s changed.
by thekiltedwonder on Nov 3, 2009 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Most of the people have already said most of the stuff already, but I'm gonna say that I also don't like it that much.
-on the text, the align left and new font of the titles look okay on the actual page/link of the post itself, but not so much in the front page.
-All the sites look the same. The link colors and header are the only ones different. The past look kinda makes Bloodyelbow different from BLH, and WKR and M4R etc. etc and it adds more personality to the site.
now, all the sites look like a less professional version SBNation.com.
-also, like most of the people said.. too much white, and the borders are hardly seen.
(i don’t mean to sound harsh or mean, because SBN obviously does a ton of great work and they’re really dedicated to this, but i just wanted to give some constructive criticism on it.)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 3, 2009 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
also,
since the header buttons are now smaller, and the logo is still the same size, it isn’t aligned anymore, making it look kinda off..
If they’re sticking with the small header, maybe a smaller logo too so it would be aligned at least? (like how it looks in the links of the actual posts)
by Anton Tabuena on Nov 3, 2009 3:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I use Google Chrome 3.0
… and I think it is so-so. I wish borders still separated the posts, and I wish the headlines were still bold and centered. I also liked the darker borders on the sides. The font itself I like more, and I am very glad that you guys finally got a browser logo to go next to your site name in a tab. All-in-All, I give it a 7.0 out of 10, since I am sure it will grow on me.
by TDITZ on Nov 3, 2009 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Header text isn't heavy enough.
I like the bold headlines. And too, too, much white. Maybe a light gray to make it easier on the eyes?
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by themachiavellian on Nov 3, 2009 4:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It just looks more bland to me. I don’t really care, but I preferred the older look.
by omigawda on Nov 3, 2009 5:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Looks pretty good. I like the “cleaner” feel to it. Personally, the simpler the better.
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by pud333 on Nov 3, 2009 5:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Personally, I’ve always loved the Red Star on a field of black that SBNation had, and I’m glad BE has it now. Of course, that says more about me…
and not in a “new ant overlords” kind of way.
by loboplata on Nov 3, 2009 5:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t like the new design. On my computer, it’s screwed up. Posts show up on both the left and right side (2 different stories at once) and are crammed in and it looks completely unprofessional/ridiculous. It also causes the fanposts to be at the very bottom of the screen, scrolling down past the additional stories.
I remember when Fiveouncesofpain.com switched to their new layout, that caused me to stop going to that website and change to here, but they also stopped making as many posts.
by Swordslasher on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Some changes since this AM
I like the faint borders. It cleans things up. However, its still pretty baron at the bottom of the pages.
Why does your icon come up the red star while TNISAAM comes up with their logo on my tabs and URL bar?
by ryanwk628 on Nov 3, 2009 7:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's kind of bland
It’s odd. The new icon is a red star which suggests power, yet the new design is so sanitized looking that it seems more fitting for a health site than an MMA site.
Just my opinion, but it lacks the “oomph” that the old design had. It isn’t bad, its kind of nice actually – it just doesn’t seem to fit.
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by mythbuster on Nov 3, 2009 7:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This morning shit was going crazy and there was two columns of posts and you couldn’t see half the posts in the second column. Its gotten better now, but I thought the old layout was the pinnacle of awesome.
Just as long as you dont go all Five Ounces on me.
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by SamCupitt on Nov 3, 2009 9:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think I had it opened in internet explorer which apparently waas bad. But yeah, not sure how it got fixed.
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by SamCupitt on Nov 3, 2009 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i get 2 columns on the front page and then everything from the right side is pushed down towards the bottom somewhere. everything seems fine on a thread page
IE 7 this is. havent looked up site from home with chrome or IE 8 yet
by milson on Nov 3, 2009 9:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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