Quote of the Day: Frank Mir Says "Brock Lesnar's Sickness Has Thrown His Mind for a Spin"
by Nick Thomas on Nov 27, 2009 9:25 PM EST
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"The long-term goal for me and my own satisfaction is to take off Brock Lesnar's arm," Mir said. "At the end of the day, that's what my goal is when I go to the gym and train. But being an interim champion would get me one step closer to doing so."-- Frank Mir talks about the path back to Brock Lesnar.
"[Lesnar's sickness] has thrown my mind for a spin," Mir said. "When you go in the gym, you've got a certain goal that you're going for and going for. Not that he was, obviously, my next opponent, but to face him again was the long-term goal – the short-term goals being obviously Cheick and whoever else. Now I've just got to turn it around that the interim would be another short-term goal."
"If Brock Lesnar is unable to enter the cage again, that's going to give me a hard time," Mir said. "That's been pretty much my drive and focus to go to the gym every day, to change myself and grow as a fighter, is the opportunity to have a rematch with him. To know that there's a slight possibility that that will never happen, that's going to take me [some time] to wrap my head around it."
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We already knew that Brock was crazy.
Keep firing Assholes!
In Idaho, it's illegal to f--- a porcupine. You know why? Because someone tried it.
Stupid Mir
Mir might want to rethink his “goal” especially if the reports are true that Lesnar was only operating at 60% because of the illness. The only limb Mir is tearing off is a drumstick on a turkey.
by NateDouble on Nov 27, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah good call. He should set his goals to something more appropriate, like maybe beating a non-beltholder. That would really be shooting for the stars.
And I don’t buy the whole %60 thing either. Was he not functioning as well as possible? Probably, but %60? C’mon. When he was in the cage adrenaline etc would more than make up for a lot of the inherent shortcomings with the immune system.
But I hear the whole %60 number a lot. “I started training with this new regimen and they told me I was only performing %60 of my capacity. Look out world” etc etc.
The basic gist is that his immune system was weakened and thus his ability to recover from exertion was not as great as it could be.
by Lynchman on Nov 28, 2009 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I Like that he's so Open about this...
I personally don’t see how wanting to become better after facing a superior athlete is a bad thing. I appreciate that although he may dislike Brock, he knows that in regards to athleticism he needs to improve; especially because Brock will continue improving technically.
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
by Loot on Nov 27, 2009 9:40 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Basing your entire goal set on another human being is sad. To be disappointed that he can’t fight Lesnar if Lesnar never comes back is one thing. To make it seem like his whole world will come crashing down is just sad. Get over it Mir. You won one, he won one.
Is it sad?
I think his motivation makes perfect sense being that it’s changed his entire outlook on the fight game. He honestly felt like his technique could overcome the overbearing physicality of a freak of nature, and was otherwise proven wrong in their second fight. I think acknowledging that is just telling the truth. Plus if you work hard to prove that you’re better than someone, it wouldn’t satisfy you to be the interim champ…
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
Memo to Frank
Let it go. Brock doesn’t need to be your motivation. Your pride, kids, wife, etc. should suffice.
Being overrated is overrated.
Memo to bobby g
Mir doesn’t need your advice.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Memo to mythbuster
bobby g doesn’t need your opinion.
by ufc4 on Nov 27, 2009 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 9 recs
Memo to ufc4
mythbuster was hoping he was the only one clever enough to double up on the “memo” joke.
by Dooda on Nov 27, 2009 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Memo to self
Stop reading every reply.
by nottheface on Nov 27, 2009 11:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 11 recs
HATER!
Why you such a hater, hater?
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Because bobby g is important enough for Frank Mir to listen to.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
I’m flattered, but really, is what I said so polarizing, revolutionary, or novel that it sounds like I’m preaching the word? Don’t all of you find it a bit odd that he needs Brock to motivate him through tough workouts? In other words, without Brock there’s no reason for Frank Mir the fighter?
Being overrated is overrated.
Are you serious?
You know that Frank’s been fighting for a while, right?
I would assume most fighters use the championship as motivation, or avenging a loss. The fact that you find this so objectionable that you need to “memo to…” to tell the former champion what his motivation should be is laughable.
People existed before The Lesnar. The world spun, clouds moved, people danced.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Soo
are you related to Mr. Murr or something? You seem a little butt hurt over this..
by TennesseeTopTeam on Nov 28, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
YOU SAID BUTTHURT!!
Man, you must be the coolest guy on the internet!
and you wrote “Murr”! Wow, you got all the angles covered for your “I wanna fit in!” coolness!
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
So
I take that as a yes?
by TennesseeTopTeam on Nov 28, 2009 7:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And
I guess i will have to start using “butt hurt” all the time now since it makes me cool and all.
by TennesseeTopTeam on Nov 28, 2009 7:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
and you have to use “whine”, “cry” and “hater” more often.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Using a loss as motivation is one thing. Frank’s comment was a bit more sensational. Essentially he’s saying I need Brock around to be motivated. I thought his comment was so over the top, it was worthy of a memo. I won’t cc: you on it when I’m done with it.
Being overrated is overrated.
Since it was sensational and so over the top, shouldn’t you or anyone else that is reading Mir’s comments just take it with a grain of salt or not so seriously. I mean, yes, it was sensational, but Mir makes it sound like he can’t get out of bed because of Lesnar. I honestly feel that Mir most likely meant what he said in a different context, and I have to wonder if he would say this if Lesnar wasn’t the Champion.
This is brilliant. Mir has tied himself to Lesnar so closely that it keeps him relevant. He always has that win to bring up a rubber match..etc
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 27, 2009 9:46 PM EST reply actions
I’d agree with your depiction if it weren’t for Mir’s dismantling of Minotauro.
He’s almost turning into the Koscheck of the HW division; bumping around the division knocking off contenders but with insufficient juice for the champ.
by casey manrique on Nov 27, 2009 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
I’m not commenting on his relevancy now. I’m just saying. He is making sure to remain tied to Brock so that no matter what he has that to fall back on.
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by Brent Brookhouse on Nov 27, 2009 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
He is making sure to remain tied to Brock so that no matter what hehas that to fall back onhas one more big payday to look forward to.
Fixed
by ufc4 on Nov 27, 2009 10:21 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
nice way of looking at it.
i’m sure mr. mir does not want to go back to being a bouncer at the spearmint rhino in las vegas. this gives him another large payday in the future.
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 27, 2009 11:48 PM EST up reply actions
Well....
He has Brock to thank for having any relevancy in mma so I guess i can see why he feels the need to milk this for all that its worth.
If he earns a rematch thats fine. I wont mind seeing Lesnar make his face look like my Grandma’s when she has her teeth out……..That is if my Grandma took her teeth out and then got beat over the head with a golden horseshoe.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 9:59 PM EST reply actions
yea, beating Nog doesn't count because of staph...
right?
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
I don’t know. If she does they are gray. ill keep ya posted
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 10:08 PM EST reply actions
Thanks for the input. I promise ill do ya proud next time!
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Mir needs to see a doctor
Didn’t you hear? Brock’s coming back 40% better. Mir needs to find some ailment he can fix just to keep pace.
Didn't you hear?
Dana white is 100% full of shit
by RoB_ex on Nov 27, 2009 10:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
All these percentages are full of shit.
by bignerd on Nov 27, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone can post
random percentages, 78% of everyone knows that ;)
by proflex on Nov 28, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
ohh ufc4 on the Mir hate wagon again
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
Frank would certainly beat Brock in a douchey tattoo contest. Even with the cocksword.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 10:49 PM EST reply actions
I dunno
That cocksword was sorta pulling out the Excalibur of douchey tattoos. Frank would have him beat hands down without that.
Very true.....
but i feel the accumulation of Franks Wonder-Douche tattoos takes it. Lets do the list.
Chinese writing tattoos – Check
Armband tattoo – Check
Armband tattoo that includes his name – Check
Tupac style Thug Life stomach tattoo – Check
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
Wow
But unless that guy is Brock or Frank he is not in the contest.
But Wow.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
I like it. If you’re going to permanently alter yourself, why not just go all the way. Let your dreams run wild and just live in the moment.
Must be a Liddell fan
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 27, 2009 11:30 PM EST up reply actions
i think their should be a vanilla ice song here. ice ice baby.
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 28, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions
Mir's path to Lesnar
he has to beat Kongo . . . and look, Cheick is a good fighter. He’s big, powerful, and his stand-up can be vicious. If Mir wants Lesnar, he can’t look past Kongo. After that, I would say he would get the winner of Nog and Cain. Or maybe just Velasquez . . . if Nog is impressive enough in a win he just might get the title shot.
But Mir’s still in the picture no question, he just can’t become Captain Ahab chasing his white whale fruitlessly for the rest of his career.
As much as I want Mir to get rocked, he will take Cheick down and submit him in Rd.1 with ease.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 28, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions
This is a direct result of our high un-employment rate.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 28, 2009 12:20 AM EST up reply actions
Very literary of you, ufcfour, and for that you get a rec.
I humbly point out that it was the Moby Dick who took Ahab’s leg in their first meeting, whereas it was Mir who took Lesnar’s.
by casey manrique on Nov 28, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Oooh, good point.
Well played.
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
Greatest American Novel.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 28, 2009 1:13 AM EST up reply actions
If you read the first 20 chapters, skip the next 60 or so, and read the last 10.
Then it’s readable.
Otherwise…..
"(Brock Lesnar) is never in good spirits and he's not in good spirits now." - Dana White
Not even close
The Sound and the Fury, For Whom the Bell Tolls, To Kill a Mockingbird, Henderson the Rain King (sooooo underrated)
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 28, 2009 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
sound and the fury ftw.
i think i’ll revisit that one
I'm like PacMan fightin you silly kids... throw ya Hatton the ring, and get knocked outlike Ricky did.
lol.
1) I thought Henderson the Rain King was incredibly racist, reveling in “Noble Savage” stereotypes.
2) Hemmingway’s short stories are much better than his novels. His short, punchy style works better there.
3) Mockingbird is decent, but too pat & simple. Atticus Finch is cool, the rest is just OK.
4) I put The Sound and the Fury as #3, behind Moby Dick and Huck Finn. Amazing book.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 28, 2009 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
i disagree about HTRK and think it did everything Updike’s Babbitt series should have done. Mockingbird is beautiful in its stark simplicity—and c’mon Boo Radley is awesome. Dont really care for any of the Nick Adams stories but The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber is definitely right there behind FWTBT. Have you ever read any version of The Bear? its prolly one of Faulkner’s best and most straightforward works
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2009 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
also, Moby Dick is an English novel, just like anything by Hawthorne. hell Id say Billy Budd is better
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2009 1:08 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Moby-Dick is distinctly American. Note how it uses religion – very much Second Great Awakening, Revivalist-style, instead of the austere British Anglicanism. Also, thematically, British Lit at the time was all class-based – Dickens & Co. were in full bloom, very different from the apocalyptic Romanticism in M-D.
I need to read more Faulkner. I’ve read S&F and a few other short stories whose names I don’t even remember.
I’d say runners-up for GAN are The Great Gatsby, On the Road, and Gravity’s Rainbow. GG & OTR are very American, but too slight artistically to be Great Art. GR is just…odd. I love Pynchon, but his novels defy easy classification.
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better. -Samuel Beckett
by themachiavellian on Nov 29, 2009 3:38 AM EST up reply actions
lol, i hopey you're still reading these replies since i don't wanna bring it up elsewhere
But see, I think the fact the Moby Dick is essentially a fusion of the British Romanticism and Gothic literary movements keeps it from being distinctly American (i know i’m venturing into dangerous waters here, since really everything is influenced by something else). Huck Finn, no doubt, can be included in this discussion; it offers the first deep look at the American vernacular heavily influenced by illiterate blacks, while also taking place on probably the most iconic location in America at the time (the Mississippi). And, it’s tremendously witty.
Gatsby is good, but too infatuated with a highly specific sect of American life. On the Road is personally one of my favorite novels, shit, I quote it all the time when I try to act cool, so I’d add that to the list. I lump GR in with Infinite Jest as books I know are awesome, but I just can’t appropriate 3 weeks to reading it right now. Of the 200 or so pages I’ve read, it is good. Fuck, Against the Day is staring at me in a pile of books right now.
But, I must say, the best English-language novel in general I’ve read thus far is Middlemarch.
We're just a million little gods causin' rain storms, turning every good thing to rust.
by Anthony Pace on Nov 29, 2009 9:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve got to agree with themachiavellian and say that Moby-Dick is quintessentially American being the most definitive example of American Romanticism I can think of (maybe Hawthorne’s The Scarlet Letter). For it’s modern companion (and perhaps the best American novel of the last three decades) read Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. I’ll be honest in admitting I love both books even though I don’t fully comprehend all the subtext.
Randy exposed the key to beating Lesnar..
except he was 10 years too old and 50 pounds too light with no serious KO power. Find a guy who can control Lesnar’s takedowns and force him to stand up and fight. If Mir had any takedown defense I would give him a chance. I don’t see Brock ever developing tight striking game as much as people on the BROCKWAGON would think he would. But I don’t see Mir ever developing the wrestling skills either.
So a 270 pounder with a wrestling base and great technical standup with KO power huh? Yeah, there are tons of those guys around.
So no faith in Carwin?
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 28, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions
He has a chance
But 1) I don’t think he can stop Lesnar from taking him down, and 2) while he has great power his striking isn’t that good from a technical standpoint. If he can catch Brock he can definitely put him down but I don’t think his gameplan going in should count on him catching him with one punch like he did to Gonzaga.
All I can say is Carwin is not on Randy’s level of wrestling. But Carwin could drop Lesnar cold, unlike Randy. I’m going to say he hits harder than Brock.
Yeah, Carwin could catch him, however I think it’s a lot more likely that Brock does something similar to what he did in his last fight and pounds Carwin out after taking him down a few times.
Yeah that is a real possibility..
this fight hinges on Crawin’s wrestling skills. I believe he is strong enough to be able to get back on his feet but we will see. I like Cain’s chances better in wrestling match, even at his size,but he just doesn’t have the power in his hands.
Another thing I wonder about with Carwin is how he will perform if the fight goes 2, 3, 4, or even 5 rounds. This is a guy that has never been halfway through the first round, what’s gonna happen after he’s been beaten on by a 280 pound beast for 10 or 15 minutes? We really have no idea what his tank is like at this point.
I don't see one coming around yet...
It will be some kid who’s starting MMA right now in high school…
The title should read
Quote of the Day: Frank Mir Says “Brock Lesnar’s Sickness Has ThrownHismy Mind for a Spin”
The way it reads now it sounds like Lesnar’s mind is the one spinning.
by ufc4 on Nov 28, 2009 1:35 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Shane could win via Smug Lecture.
"He's got a great package and it's an unusual one." - Joe Rogan on Lyoto Machida @ UFC 94.
by MostDiabolicalHater on Nov 28, 2009 1:39 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Brock is such a heel...
He clearly just injured himself to unfairly play with Mir.
Stay strong, Frank!
Mir will have to go Super Sayain Level 3 if he wants to beat Brock.
for all intents and purposes, just consider all my posts as works of satire.
Mir has some serious
issues, if Brocks illness put’s Mir’s mind into a spin, then he’s not focused on anything but Brock. Keep it up Mir, and you’re never getting another title shot, focus on the fighter you fight next. Plenty of other fighters have made that same mistake and paid the price for it.
lesnar will be completely healthy in 2 or 3 months and resume training.
yes i am obsessive, obnoxious, in your face and all about covering the spread. those are my good qualities.
by wolfmanshowlforever on Nov 28, 2009 1:58 PM EST reply actions
Yes
Yes you should.
"Why am I here? Why does my mind have wings? Why do blue midgets hit me with fish?!" - The Tick
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